Is the industry ready to admit that the middle men have too much control?
 

Nothing wrong with admitting it, because one thing that Jesus loves is the truth.

Remember Jesus himself had to flip the table and send the money changers scurrying.

Jesus did not post his gripes about middle men and money changers on message boards, nor did Jesus speak to the money changers as if they were GOD.

Jesus slammed his fist on the table of the money changers and flipped that table over with red rage in his eyes!

Something happened within the past 2000 years...I come to ass backwards gfy and its a collective orgy of money changer/middlemen blind worship and allegiance.

U won't dare fathom a better world less dependent on money changers, because the money changers have carefully programmed you to believe that you cannot exist without them

I do not worship money changers nor do I view them as God despite the petty power they have to control what revenue you generate.

So if Jesus can admit it why can't you?

Do the middle men have too much control over the flow of electronic credit card transactions?

You lost me when you started citing 'Jesus' and anything relevant to the rest of the world.

Once you start quoting imaginary people from the jewish book of fairy tales you have lost all credibility.

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The last thing that bitter, failed people in life do is accept personal responsibility or hold themselves accountable for their results. You've blamed everything under the sun on this forum. Thats not a coincidence.

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How about we all sing,dance, and praise the money changers for doing us the service of converting our sales into short term credit loans, and selling us our money back at 15-20%

If you have not changed your reasoning you will not understand how your sales are converted into loans by the middle men before you touch them

Barefootsie I am not religious but I know some history and try to use a biblical example to illustrate how no matter what times we are in, there is nothing new under the sun.

I can't stand religious peopleof any type and I do believe whole heartedly religion is an opiate for the masses

If you want to cite facts that's fine, open a history book. In regards to your recurring gripes, that's been associated with the jew throughout history if you're referring the banks, charging interest, and lending practices dating back thousands of years.

It has little to do with religious fodder.

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Excellent. I like you more already.

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Start your own billing, problem solved :2 cents:

The great thing about crazy people who rely on conspiracy to validate their insanity, is that the conspiracy never stops. She can't create her own billing when all banks... nay, the entire financial system is responsible for her getting only 1 sale a day when it should be... at least 2.

Seriously, why don't you come here and talk about your latest shoots and stuff like that?

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Never thought of that, do you think that would be a good idea?

My fans love to hear about my video shoots, but I do not have any fans on gfy

Besides nothing rattles cages and stirs the pot like a question or comment about middle men

See that Barefootsie, we actually do have something we *AGREE* on...LOL and yes it hurt posting that we agree on something but I am actually glad we do agree on something!

I thought after all these years we would never find any common ground:thumbsup

anyways good to know we agree on something for the first time!

I just read Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus and decided not to read further

"Banker's" / "Meet the banker's".

Very credible youtube video there huh? :1orglaugh

Anything that would impress a fan most likely is of interest to webmasters that may
consider promoting your site.

Some of the webmasters here have a lot of traffic and impressing one of them with your
program would easily send your sales skyrocketing.

People complain that sales are down, but I do still make sales and that's important because I don't truly consider that I have any traffic. I call my traffic "no traffic".
So I see what serious traffic could do.

I think it's not too hard to pick up some affiliates here just by posting some pics and
being up beat.

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lunatics like wehateporn get banned, psycho disgusting cunts like swirlsgirl take over :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

what he said :2 cents:

in all fairness to the Jews the to rah isn't as much fairytale as you might imagine... many statements of law and arguments about law... much actual history as well :2 cents:

Hey many thanks for that, that sure is very plausible sounding and I think I will try that out, I have some great content and maybe I should be sharing some of that content with people who have traffic like you say..LOL

We are like you we have no traffic but pound for pound we bang out sales.

Sadly knowing what I know now, regardless of your traffic numbers, regardless of your affiliate numbers...you will only be as successful as your middle man *ALLOWS* you to be.

That is the sad undeniable undebatable truth in this business....and that is why I ask is the industry ready to admit that too much control over transactions are in the hands of the middle men and not the hands of the merchants

Personally, I would consider sending traffic to the site and it would blow her own sales out of the water. The only thing stopping me is Sara. She's fucking crazy and I don't send traffic to lunatics. It's too valuable to risk. :2 cents:

It would not be very hard to over haul things either I know many think I am psycho and lunatic but please offer me a valid reason why the following prospect would not benefit us webmasters and merchants...

Why would real time, working and accurate stats not be made functional for us merchants when they are 100% functional for the middle men?

Of all my issues and concerns and theories, I wait for one explanation as to why sales stats thru 3rd party cannot be made real time like if you had your own merchant account?

If you do not know why perhaps I can tell you why...if you do know why...then why act like I am crazy when it is logical and intelligent to want real time stats of your data and sales?

It all boils down to a mind trick, and how much blind trust you are willing to have.

I am saying if you implement real time stats the need for trust evaporates because there is no delay in data transmission.

No delay in data transmission means this...VERY VERY VERY DIFFICULT TO MANIPULATE DATA

ALSO means more reliable data, and more peace of mind for you the merchant or you the webmaster

How is that?

Not really a risk. She's been around for a long long time with only minor problems.
She blows the problem up sky high with drama on the board though.

If you have the right traffic then that site is pretty easy money.

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Think of it like pro sports, look at the agents/managers/NFL/Union/etc...
They are all in the players wallet; yet without the system the players make nothing.

Make all you can make out of the game with the rules, because you don't make the rules.

As long as she isn't switching billers :2 cents:

SHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! Don't say that! This is all she has to cling on to. It's fair easier to simply blame some amorphous "them" when things don't go as you wish them, rather than to actually do it for yourself.

It would take far more knowledge gathering, effort, contact working and struggle to put together a billing system for herself then she is willing to put out, poor thing.

This way she can be comforted by the thought that she is simply a victim of "them", and that NO normal person can do what "they" do. Only the all-powerful "they" can start a billing company.

Leave her alone to these thoughts, everyone deserves to be able to comfort themselves.




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P.S. Why don't you get your own merchant account, rather than go through 3rd party billing?




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Send it to me instead then. :)

Middle men exist because most people don't want the responsibility of handling everything themselves nor are most people CAPABLE of handling something as complicated as credit, banking and online transactions. Thus, a CCBill or Verotel exists. There are many links in this financial chain.

bless you :pimp

Jesus slammed his fist down and flipped over the table and said damnit it's been 2000 years and still these stats haven't finished loading

No.

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I would rather "lose" 15% of $200,000 than "lose" 0% of $0.

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It's dog walking and dinner time here. Let's talk tomorrow. :thumbsup

lol, using CCBill I see

Why don't you get your own merchant account? That way you get real-time stats and no middle men.

You won't get rich processing through CCbill.

I think it's largely a corrupt industry and regulations by the credit card companies and banks now increasingly create conditions which favor the larger players over the smaller players. It would be nice if something like Paypal were possible in adult as this would remove some of that control and cut out a middle man or two. But there's a reason it hasn't happened yet - certain powerful people don't want to see it. It's an interesting situation really. The major players abuse conditions by doing things such as banging cards and committing outright scams (with the processors looking the other way) and so in response the credit card companies and the banks create more regulations ($500 registration fees, compliance, no questions asked charge back policies, reduce the likelihood for adult transactions to be approved,etc) and fees which help to push out the competitors of the people most responsible for abusing the system in the first place. So they still gain just the same.