Morons Deny Climate Change
 

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https://youtube.com/watch?v=IaKm89eVhoE

my grandfather used to cross the sava river every winter because it would freeze over every single year when he was young...my mother used to ice skate on the save ariver almost every winter because, when she was a child, it froze over almost every winter...during my life time the river has frozen over only 1 time and it was 38 years ago...that's 3 generations

when I was a kid, my home town had 1.5 meters of snow for about a month and then another month of knee deep snow every year...as a kid I spent almost every winter digging tunnels in the snow that would stay "functional" for weeks...now I'm grown up the snow is a few cm deep for a few days and is gone...once every few years it snows up to the knees for a week and is gone...nothing like before...much shorter and warmer winters...

the summers have always been hot...cant say that its much hotter...but the winters have definitively changed...no doubt at all...

let's stop the laws of nature! Altogether now...

But damn, at 581:1 the payout on a couple hundie would be huge.

Something about being Republican and denying climate change. What is it about your politics that makes you deny science?

I'll see your 13,950 articles and raise you 30,000 scientists..

http://www.independentsentinel.com/3...limate-change/

I guess you missed the scandal where the IPCC was blackballing any scientist who wrote against "global warming" which BTW is now called "climate change" as you so pointed out.

That would be because it is a democratic scheme to raise more tax dollars.

It's like the bible to them. I assume it's because the right has been taken over by the Jesus folk. They are very gulable so it's easy for the right wing lobbyist groups to convince their supporters of dumb things like cow farts cause more pollution than cars.

Humans are destroying the planet.

Big oil and gas pay off politicians and the media to hide the causes, risks, and horrible results that their outdated, greedy, manipulative, unnecessary, shady, and obnoxious business models create.

To believe otherwise is idiotic and self-destructive.

There is no billions of dollars of quarterly profits for shareholders and big CEO saleries for renewable energy sources like wind, hydro and solar.

Soon as the shale oil fields opened up in North America all the big oil companies dumped their holdings in renewable power.

A lot of them hope the end is near, fits into their fucked up book.

The biggest contradiction in the bible is that god flooded the earth to kill everyone then gave us rainbows as his promise never to kill us again yet everyone is waiting for Jesus to come back to kill us all.

The Vikings use to grow grapes in Iceland a Thousand years ago.
You can't grow grapes there now.

You know what changes the climate. The Sun!
It goes in cycles.

we can make humankind last forever by recycling!

The Vikings never grew grapes in Iceland, they grew them in 'Vinland' which was a region near Newfoundland.


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and all they do is getting money from it from both side

Oh NOES! A GFY DUDE SDAYS I MIGJT BE A MORN!!

Whatever, man. Make politics, weather, climate, everything a team sport with two teams, yours and the BAD GUYS. Everything is black and white and right and wrong, and you should always do what your team captain says and be a good little foot soldier and call the other team names. Grow the fuck up.

If not for republicans and FOX News taking cues from big oil there would be no taking sides and no debate. Seems you're the type of puppet they target.

They are obviously the voice of reason.. I mean everyone knows it's cow farts and the sun.,.

http://rt.com/news/mammoth-blood-ice-siberia-908/

There used to live Mammoths on New Siberian Islands in the Arctic seas of northeastern Russia. Guess the earth was warmer before we populated everything.

The question is not if there is climate changes or not. The question scientist still debate, is if its manmade or part of the natural changes

No, there is no question whether its man made or not. Normal climate change happens over a period of millions of years, not 50 years.

Fuck, debating you morons is like debating a 5 year old with downs syndrome.

Yep, and the latest I heard from Hannity was because the leftys werent allowing as much hunting the earth is becoming overpopulated with bears and elk and they are producing more gas. No fucking joke.

I dunno why a group of religious nutters, mostly based out of Utah, would suddenly consider themselves 'Scientists' ?

But what ever guys - You can have more than one wife, so while I dont believe anything you say, I completely respect your right to have more than one bitch at a time, and call it 'religion' :thumbsup

This time I agree with you. Was watching documentary movie - guys were taking ice samples from big depth. All depends on Sun activity.

settle down :1orglaugh

I dident say "I" was debating the question

I think it is clear and obvious that the climate is in a warmer trend right now. There is no denying that.

The question is whether or not we humans have affect on that. To me it is pretty simple. If we clean up our act, make a cleaner better environment and reduce the amount of potentially damaging emissions and it turns out we were wrong and it doesn't affect the weather, oh well, at least we still have a cleaner, nicer planet to live on.

If we ignore it and we turn out to be wrong the consequences could be great.

This doesn't mean I support crazy carbon taxes and scams of that nature, but more an overall effort to make a cleaner, better planet.

omg.....

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The problem is cleaning up our act is expensive. Carbon taxes as a whole are not a scam. Carbon taxes are theoretically what would pay to clean the earth up.

I still use aerosol deodorant.

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nothing wrong with a spiffy planet.

carbon emissions
China 7,031,916 23.5%
United States 5,461,014 18.27%
European Union (27) 4,177,817 13.98%
India 1,742,698 5.83%
Russia 1,708,653 5.72%
Japan 1,208,163 4.04%
Germany 786,660 2.63%

Everything is Fox news - THEY BAD GUY!! YOU NO LIKE THEM DUMMY DUMB!!

QFMFT.

and it's funny! :1orglaugh


xcllnt post.

It won't be cheap no matter which route we take, but the alternative is to do little or nothing and hope we are right and everything will be fine. If we are wrong it could be catastrophic.

earth will be just fine. it's us that has the problem, you can bank on that.

there's always been climate change and there's always been volcanoes, floods, hurricanes, blizzards, heat waves.

we're part of nature, so whatever we're doing is part of the blueprint of the Creator. if he/she/it wants most if not all of us off the planet then so it will be.

not going to worry about what happens to this planet after i'm done. nobody is going to remember any one of you were ever here 40 years after you die and most people will forget it a week later.

just curious, what exactly would be great consequences?

just from what i know about humans. "Homo" has existed for 200,000 years, 50,000 as homo sapiens, 5000 as civilized homo sapiens. all those trillions of people had no tech. but survived ice ages, famines, plagues. so why is there such hand wringing about warming when humans have proved marvelously adaptable to their climates?

& for BFT3K. the earth once had 1000 ppm of CO2, no ice at either pole, basically a planetary jungle. but somehow, there were no oil companies & greedy companies 60 million years ago. how did the earth get so hot without them? even worse, the earth cooled to current levels. What happened that made the earth cool? as the answer does not conform with your fetish for hating corporations, im certain you will not bother to look into it.

enjoy your sunday evenings. :)

Maybe because a former democrat vice president who pushes the climate change thing is buying beach front property?
http://content.usatoday.com/communit...1#.Udn_OfmxfjI


Personally, I think the pollution we make on this planet is killing us off slowly and that the democrats won't do anything about it. If they did, they would have invested in electric cars everyone could afford, like this one

http://www.fiatusa.com/en/2013/500e/

Here's a $17k car that didn't get money like Fisker that puts out a $150k electric car

Here's a car that shows just how little thought goes into Obama's green agenda
For every Fisker car, we could have 8 cheap electric cars

But you guys will still back his blowing money on green energy, the Italians got it right!!!

Well, a few things I can think of. If the polar ice caps fully melt, or melt most of the way, the ocean levels could raise and flood the coastlines and islands. This won't happen overnight so, in theory, we could have time to get people out of there. If the globe continues to warm we could find ourselves in a situation where there is less fresh water and the warmer climate with less fresh water could make food harder to grow. If the ocean temperature rises too much it could kill off much of the sea life that we eat reducing available food sources even more. There are also those that speculate that a hotter climate could cause more adverse weather. If we have to leave the coasts and move to the middle of he country and that area is constantly pounded by various storms, tornadoes, hurricanes etc. it could be a shitty situation.

We likely won't die, at least not all of us, but it could make life on the planet much more difficult and crowded.

Yes, we have been around for a long time and we have adapted to the climate, but not until recently have we been pumping tons upon tons of pollutants into the air and water so future climate changes could end up being unlike anything we have seen in the past.

Current projections predict an average rise in temperature anywhere between 2 - 4 degrees Celsius in the next 50 years, this equates to 35 -40 degrees Fahrenheit. Do you think that simply means better gardens for your kids?