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so do you like her now?

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Also you just cannot take a kid like that

Sure but it is also self preservation. If anybody but Hank investigates then her hands are pretty dirty at this stage.

That said, she isn't anywhere near as annoying as her sister.

i had to lol when marie tried to klepto the baby, same ole marie! maybe she's the most consistent of them all. i'm still trying to sort out why the writers felt the need to get peeps liking skyler. any ideas? it does seem inconsistent to me, so i am *guessing* there's a reason it was so important in this episode.

Maybe so we are clear as to which side she will be on in the upcoming family civil war. I wonder when Walt Jr comes into all of this chaos.

I can't wait until Hank figures out Jesse's connection. What deal is going to be made there?

Marie would be the last person I would have look after my kid even if its dad was a drug lord.

i haven't watched it again yet. will later today but the episode struck me as very hatfield/mccoy, the sides are being made clear. i fully expect shrader to *break* pinkmann's silence and those 2 work together against team ww/skyler.

that's the only reason i can think of atm for why skyler done what she done last nite. choosing to lawyer up v. spilling to shrader at the diner? was not expecting that. BUT shrader's way of handling it could have made her irrationally decide on the spot,

he's such a dickhead!!

Thats too easy to guess

I think Skylar already flipped to being "all in" a long time ago.

Even though Lydia is a little worm, I just love that character because she's so funny. Ordering the deaths of 5 men, then being too squeamish to see the bodies.

She lost a lot of my respect when she stood there pleading for her daughter back. She should have grabbed her sister by the hair and yanked her back to her senses.

Skyler has always had some 'carmella soprano' in her, she doesn't 'like' the business but she is shrewd enough to be helpful when she wants to be, and she isn't about to go into witness protection without a storage unit full of cash.

i bet those shoes she was wearing were $2500. :1orglaugh

Her death is going to be interesting when it happens.

Approx $625.

The shot of Lydia fastidiously climbing down the metal ladder into their underground methamphetamine bunker, fastidiously and uncomfortably placing her red Louboutin shoe soles on each filthy industrial rung . . . well, it is pure genius.

I never said I HATED Skylar, but she's fully invested in this, and she's going down with the ship.

i'm prolly gonna wee my pants due to excitment during the episode that shows ww getting back in the game. he's gotta get back in right?

someone will find that moneys and he'll have to start over.

there is too much heat for him to take a risk like that.... :2 cents:

but the portending in the first episode of this season, where he pulls up to the house and gets the rycin.....he was in deep shit, i figure that has to be because he got back in rather than fighting shrader.

What if Walt and Hank conspire together to make Lydia and that young guy (forget his name) the enemy? Then Hank still solves the case and his family is protected.

With the cancer being back I think Hank knows why Walt did it and is wrestling with acceptance.

point me on what second is she?

ooooooooh

That's Todd. Weirdly, the AMC official press room for journalists actually has him tagged as Jesse, so apparently his name is forgettable.

Why would she have rolled? She had accepted the benefits of the life. She wasn't going to turn it off just like that.

actually, it would not have been a roll, based on her history of how she treats ww and how he has shit all over her, it would have been a relief finally, imo, not a time to lawyer up. i don't think anyone can disagree it was certainly out of character. not saying that's wrong, peeps irl act of out character all the time based on events, nevertheless, i'm wondering what the motivation was for the writers and consequently, the skyler character to do an about face.

At what point did you think Skyler was "all in"? For me, this is the FIRST time I've seen her standing up. All last season, she was behaving like a battered housewife. One thing I can say about Skyler is, she is smart. She may have been annoying and had me praying for her quick and painless death scene, but she knows her shit. She handled the car wash acquisition with grace and she is now showing Hank that she's no fool.

Gloves off.

Putting it all on Lydia and Meth Damon would be a very good way to go. His ties to prison gangs etc also make it believable he could have done this all from the start on his own probably. Gets Hank out of the family issue, the medical bill payment dilemma and makes a lot of sense EXCEPT.... Hank is too Captain Ahab and Walt is his big white whale. I don't see Hank doing what's smart... his pride would get in the way. :2 cents:

so does anybody else think ww is gonna get back in? or will the finale be a strictly ww v. shrader dealio?

skylar will order the hit on Hank

I have never really hated Skylar. At times she can be a little annoying, but to me she is just a person who has had her life turned upside down, first by being knocked up at an older age then by her husband getting cancer then by finding out her husband was a meth dealer.

I have enjoyed watching her go from average person to straight up gangster.

Had Hank figured this out a few seasons ago when she was hating Walt she likely would have flipped and given Hank everything. Now she has had a taste and is fully invested herself so she has to protect herself in all of this as well.

Still, she could demand that she get full immunity in exchange for handing over Walk and she would likely get it and that might still happen.

I subscribe to the theory that Hank either kills her or has her killed. if he thinks she is going to roll over on him that might be the reason he does it.

i've hated skylar since s1, she's from the same family as marie, the annoying gene carried over.

but i don't think was the intent of the writers, which is why i am wondering if how this was handled was not also some sort of attempt to get the skylar character less hated/more liked, i certainly am not alone in not liking that character. not sure if it worked though, it may have backfired.

Yeah, she's been nothing but practical and pragmatic every step of the way. I doubt that would change at the end.... not to mention, she's already said she's not going to Hank and steered Walt from it. If Walt is dying, so is evidence and the case. Without hard evidence against her, Walt dead and millions of dollars buried in the desert, what does she gain by flipping? She's already implicated and no matter what, they can't come forward without giving up the money, forfeiting all property, losing the kids etc... so... no point in that.

I disliked her since she essentially claimed rape with Walt.

Loved when Saul suggested sending Hank to Belize... wondering how long before he recommends sending Skyler there too.

i'm not seeing what's practical and pragmatic about getting in bed with a dope kingpin when your brother in law is offering you a way out + she didn't know any of the things you mentioned when she was at the diner. she thought the mula was still in storage, had just heard about the cancer, etc, for me the pragmatic skyler would have let out a sigh of relief and accepted the fbi/shrader's offer.

so your jaw had to drop when she chose to get an attorney and left in a huff or no?

I think she likes the game aspect of it all now. If she thinks she can get the better of Hank and keep her family clean, she'll try. It mostly about her but if it saves Walt too then it does.

This :thumbsup

She's guilty as well
Hank can't offer her immunity from prosecution
Hank wasn't offering her a deal.. he was under the assumption that she was a victim and hostage of a violent drug dealer (as he stated repeatedly)
Hank was over zealously trying to extract information

She will go to prison
She will lose her children
She will lose her home
She will lose the car wash
She will lose the money

She dummied up and threatened to get a lawyer. Thats the only smart choice.

i would bet shrader knew she was complicit when he met her at the diner and was blowing that off to enlist her to nab ww, shrader knew and knows he doesn't have enough to convict, move forward.

the reason i bet he knew is because marie mentioned all of that during her 1/2 of a conversation with skyler on the bed last nite. if she knew how skylar knew all the way back when, then certainly shrader knows too, but he needs, or thought he needed skyler's info.

This isn't the first time she has played the dumb card to get out of trouble. There was the incident with her former boss and the IRS where she acted like an idiot who got hired because of her tits.

That was one of the first glimpses that she was really willing to do what it takes to not get caught.

But it seems that Hank doesn't know just how involved Skyler is or for how long she has known. If Hank knew he might not willing/able to come with that same kind of offer to help her.

This wasn't "playing dumb" though. He went fishing for info, comforting her by saying how he understood she was just the victim... then he pulled out a recorder. She refused to talk. She wanted a lawyer... he put 2 and 2 together... Smash cut to her sister coming over and her leaving her sister with the impression that it was not only true, but that she was complicit along the way - even having knowledge of Hank getting shot beforehand and said nothing to change that.

Also, the tax stuff was again a practical matter of self preservation.