Scammer and pirate alert for affiliates.
 

Yes it's that serious.

If you're an affiliate of www.smokincash.com I would love to know what content you are using of theirs.

Because it's not licensed for affiliate use, the owners of the site do not own a license and I suspect affiliates are using unlicensed content.

So if you're and affiliate of www.smokincash.com be warned they may not own the content they are giving to you. Our content is all over their affiliates area.

Sorry but i just gotta :1orglaugh

Your that redtube guy everybody´s talkin bout?

Aren't you that broke content dude that just sold out to the tube sites?:helpme

:ticking

double standards Paul? Good luck on the issue resolved.....I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you :1orglaugh

strange old paul , and his 5usd link problems , that everyone cares a lot ....


no sigspot time ....

Pornonada says he has sold the progarm with the content on to new owners, so this goes a bit deeper. He will not tell me the new owners name or give me content details.

Could phone CCBILL and see if it's been sold on. So if you're an affiliate of smokincash you might want to ask the owners if you should be using the content.

So nice to see peoples reaction to a guy stealing content. :1orglaugh

www.5dollarsporn.com is great with magic join links.

The problem with this issue;

- A sponsor is stealing from you to give to their affiliates.
- You complain about people stealing from you but you promote your sites with affiliates that steal from other sponsors.

So it's equals itself out, don't you think so?

If your going to fuck people over in this industry, your going to get fucked back.

I realy don't want to make a 30 minutes-read post so i will sum it up. I bought the smokincash affilate program some months ago, on the transfer ALL the members areas got lost due a bad hosting move. We had to restore the member areas and contact all content providers that have been used than back to do so.
When the previous owner contacted Paul to restore the content he refused, when my host contacted Paul he said we had to buy all the content again, about US$ 2200, when i contacted him he told me each time a different price for re-licensing the content. I admit that it was my vault that i thought that the content was licensed to the domains which it turned out it wasn't. So there is no doubt that it was my vault, even if not with bad intention that the issue even occured. However, when i personally tried to deal with Paul he requested that his affialte program had to be removed from the public shitlist on another forum, which was refused. We asked several times to provide me links where exactly he sees his content so we can remove it which didn't happen.
However, today he blackmailed me on ICQ and adx that if i don't pay 3 or 5 times the price for the content because it appeared it is used as well on the FHGs i bought with the program. I refused and asked another 100 times to tell me what his content is at all so i can remove it finally, which he again refused.

However, i admit that there is a license problem, no doubt, but it's not like we have gone into his site and ripped his content off, but bought a program that had no rights to transfer the content to the new owners, but ok, we admit that, but that doesn't mean automaticly that we can be blackmailed.

As we have no idea what on the tours and FHGs is his content we messaged removeyourcontent to clean up the sites from all Paul Markham Content and await his response as this would speed up the process.

That's it, everybody can now make his own decission if we are scammers and pirates....

Are you kidding or what? You are working with thieves and then you are bitching
about someone stealing your content. I really hope this is a gfy act cause if not
dude you really need to get a grasp on reality:2 cents:

paul. give up.please.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Karma is a bitch

Oh my, keeps getting more and more interesting

Does paul want you to pay 2200$ for everything, just because it is moved to a new domain? And not used on that other domain right?

Sounds REALLY stupid. Jesus...

Paul it seerms that you are broke and grasping at straws lately to keep afloat? :helpme

no ... seems like paul wants 2200usd just because there is a owner change .... not domain change ....

same domain...

NO, the content moved never to new domains, the content has not been moved to other domains. It's just like we bought the affialte program, we did not modify anything but due his license agreement, content can't be transfered to a new owner and here lies one of the problems as i thought it's licensed to the domain which it seems it isn't.
However, now we wants 5 times the full amount because with some of the content there have been made also FHGs which we got with the program.

I even can't check to which domains the content was excatly licensed because Paul never sent/signed the license to the previous owner of smokincash.

However, as said already, all i want is to remove absolutly everything we have from him, should be anyway only <1GB out of 150 GB content so anyway not that of kinda big deal for us because we lost the members area content anyway, only some pics on the tourpages have to be replaced and of course the FHGs must be replaced/removed which have his content on.

actualy he blackmailed me today with full price x 5, means ~11.000 US$ or he would post it across the boards as you can see.

pornonada tell him to go fuck himself....what a loser he is.

That's really shitty.

What else you can except from person who is so evil(PM)With redtube case and other he just prove it

It does appear that his license is by domain (upto 10) He also says the content cannot be resold.

I think he'll use legal speak to say the content (according the the license) couldn't be resold with the domain when likely it was originally written to dissuade people from reselling the content without the licensed domain.

yep, that's the problem, it's licensed to the domain and the one who bought originally the content and on the license agreement (which anyway wasn't ever sent and signed by PM) states that content can't be transfered or resold.

However, its my vault i didn't check better before i bought the program, but i didn't awaited such issues.
Doesn't matter at all as we will remove all PM content anyway asap, just wanted to show also my point of view, even if there are some mistakes on our end, it's not that we are pirates and scammers that steal content here and there

Paul is generally regarded as a retard around here. I wouldn't sweat it.

Play "match the uglies" between your site and his content store and you should be able to pick out which sets need removing.

pornonada, your right. Remove his content and buy else where. There is a few guys here that can sell you better content.

Basically that's exactly what he did. He refused to pay anything, I went as low as $500 or maybe even lower. He said no and carried on using it regardless. Seems I did not have any say in the matter. He was going to break the license and keep using the content what ever I offered. He has now only said he will take it down after he flamed on another board and I caught him using it.

So if he did not like the prices I offered, he should of taken the content out of the sites. Not carried on using it.

For the others I do not license to a domain. I license to the owner of the domain. The license is non transferable by the licensee. It's transferred by us.

But it seems the license was not even being kept to. The original license was never for use in the affiliates area. But there it is. So the license was broken.

Maybe he did misunderstand the terms of the license and thought it was to the domain and not the owner, but did he also misunderstand the part about giving it to affiliates?

Seems the license, which Pornonada is so interested in, was totally ignored. Even after he knew he did not own it he continued to use it. Would he like to explain why he refused to pay for the transfer and continued to use the content against the terms of the license?

More lip service to fighting pirates.

http://www.paulmarkham.com/contract....rpassword=view

:glugglug

Just answer this for us.

Do you allow people who license your product to ignore the license terms. Do you allow them to keep using the product even after they have refused to abide by the terms of the license?

Or is it a different rule for me?

He asked for a price, we haggled, he refused all prices I offered. His attitude was I should give it to him for free. Even though he was already breaking the terms of the license.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I suggest buying content at vgcontent,i think he having some specials now

Paul, I don't come bitching to the forums about how someone stole my product. I deal with it out of the public eye.

I do not allows transfers of a TEVS license due to someone already trying to resell it for 3 times it's current value. But if someone came to me saying this is the deal, webmaster #1 and #2 agree to sell/buy the license and everyone knows what they are getting then I would allow it. But for me to charge the new webmaster another cost is just insane.

Someone has already paid for that content, so why are you asking for more money?

Ain't it?

Here's another thought. Pornonada claims he does not know what is our content as he "lost" it during the transfer. Not all it seems as some is in the affiliates area unlicensed.

So is this content in the affiliates area, I have downloaded a lot of what I found, and not in the site? Which screws the affiliates and leads to charge backs.

Also how many other producers content is in the affiliates area without a license. Just ours or lots?

Just ours would mean it would be easy to identify and remove, lots of others leads to the question "How much of it is licensed for affiliates distribution?"