People who do not think 911 was an inside job, explain this to me please (video)
 

Official explanation: Local fires caused the core frame to weaken causing a perfect vertical implosion.

I dont buy it and I would like to hear what you guys have to say about it.

interesting... never seen this discussion play out.

i must have missed the whole thing.

what is this 9/11 you speak of?

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Another interesting video.

Nice vids!

OMG! You cracked the case! You'll get your detective shield any day now!

Are you some type of expert on how buildings are supposed to fall? I'm sure they were rigged to blow by evil invisible explosives experts, with invisible equipment, TONS of invisible explosives, miles of invisible wiring, etc.

See where I'm going with this? Think about it, and do some research on controlled demolition, because anyone who thinks this was an "inside job" likely hasn't looked into it.

you are on to something, who are you gonna call?

Where's my FUCKING tinfoil hat when I need it?

Please give me one example of a building that has collapsed in a similar way due to fire. You can't and your argument is now dead.

I knew this since 2002 already...

The best vidz available are widely banned, not so easy to find...

Don't have much time at this moment to search, the real sensitive stuff gets deleted at uploaded with new names all the time at Youtube...

Don't try and confuse Kandah with logic or facts. Where he lives it gets dark at 2 in the afternoon leaving him about 20 hours of darkness per day spent alone in his tiny government apartment to try and unravel the secrets of the most carefully planned, carefully executed and successfully concealed plot of all time..... all masterminded by someone who we have been assured was a mindless chimp with an IQ of 65.

This is a plot that would have required the cooperation of thousands of people in a multitude of locations and levels of government to execute and yet no one has come forward. A plot this devious and well concealed requires someone as dedicated as Kandah to unravel, so we should all just leave him alone to do his important work.

Why does this need explaining?

Think about this for just a moment. Two very tall, large buildings, millions of tons of concrete and steel fell right next to the building. Most likely WTC7 was completely moved off it's foundation when the two towers fell. Combined with the towers falling and the fire that raged in the building, it weakened the bottom floors which gave way.

http://www.rochardsbunnyranch.com/rock/tinfoil.jpg

I might not be an architect or and engineer, but these guys are.

Architects and engineers for 911 truth

"Ronald H. Brookman, structural engineer, with a masters degree in Engineering from UC Davis, of Novato California, writes: "Why would all 110 stories drop straight down to the ground in about 10 seconds, pulverizing the contents into dust and ash - twice. Why would all 47 stories of WTC 7 fall straight down to the ground in about seven seconds the same day? It was not struck by any aircraft or engulfed in any fire. An independent investigation is justified for all three collapses including the surviving steel samples and the composition of the dust."

Paul W. Mason, structural engineer, of Melbourne, Australia, argues: "In my view, the chances of the three buildings collapsing symmetrically into their own footprint, at freefall speed, by any other means than by controlled demolition, are so remote that there is no other plausible explanation!"

"In my opinion WTC7 was with the utmost probability brought down by controlled demolition done by experts" -Hugo Bachmann, Professor emeritus for structural analysis and construction at ETH and former Chairman of the Department of Structural Dynamics and Earthquake Engineering, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology.

Okay, get an aluminum can to represent your tower.

Empty the can of its contents.

Place can on table and get a pen or your finger will do but be sure to get it out of the way quickly.

Place palm of hand flat on top of can and apply a large amount of pressure downwards and hold it there.

Take your pen and use it to poke the side of the can, distorting its structural integrity.

See what happens? All that downward pressure collapsed the can neatly in one direction, not to the sides but straight down.

How is that? :thumbsup

To me that explanation does not make sense. With that logic other buildings around the complex should also have collapsed. And regarding the fire, check out the video below of the windsor building in madrid that was a raging inferno for 24 hours totally destroying the building, but it did not collapse.

Im just glad the case has been finally cracked, I was worried the truth was not going to come out. Now let's move on to the Kennedy assasination please. Kandah got any info on that one? THX :)

Aluminum cans are hollow and does not have massive steel core columns. The whole analogy is absurd.

Did that building have millions of tons of debris hit the ground next to it, and on it? Did that building have thousands of gallons of diesel fuel that was burning in it too? Did that building have the same structure as building 7?

Here you go :

Tell me you are not that thick. Several floors were destroyed when the plane crashed in there at 100's of miles per hour. Forget the dumb fucking steal can't melt at blah blah blah temperatures when in point of fact what you SHOULD be thinking about is the damage to the steel core by the impact making it and every floor above it structurally compromised.

What steel support is left sits there holding up 100's and 1,000's of tons or more of building. When it begins to fail, all that massive tonnage of building comes straight down like a hand crushing the top of an alumminum can collapsing the steel frame on the floor below by sheer brute force. Adding the weight of that to the next floor which collapses and so forth by the steadily increasing weight that is coming down at unimaginable pressures.

Yes the core was made to hold up the building, what is wasn't made to withstand was the pressure of part of that building collapsing down several floors instantly. After that physics takes over and for all intents and purposes it behaves just like that aluminimum can.

OK enough already, this 911 thing has been cracked, lets move on to that Kennedy quandry. Im still in progress of mapping out the grassy knoll, anyone with info please let me know.

My lack of physics expertise, and inability to explain why the buildings fell is NOTHING compared to the conspiracy nut's inability to explain the logistical impossibility of such a huge secret operation. We can't really discuss deliberately collapsed building physics, until you explain how a devious plot of this magnitude could actually be possible.

You're a fruitcake.

I agree 100%. Your a nutcase. Explain how hundreds of people could be in on this and not 1 of them comes out and spills the beans?

Put down the crack pipe.

I dont have to explain how it could be possible. I see the collapses and the evidence that suggests a controlled demolition and demand a new investigation. How and why it was done is up to that investigation to explore.

Interesting Tenants of Wtc 7.

Floor
46-47 Mechanical floors
28-45 Salomon Smith Barney (SSB)
26-27 Standard Chartered Bank
25 Inland Revenue Service (IRS)
25 Department of Defense (DOD)
25 Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)
24 Inland Revenue Service (IRS)
23 Office of Emergency Management (OEM)
22 Federal Home Loan Bank of New York
21 First State Management Group
19-21 ITT Hartford Insurance Group
19 National Association of Insurance Commissioners (NAIC)
18 Equal Opportunity Commission (EEOC)
14-17 Vacant
13 Provident Financial Management
11-13 Securities and Exchange Commission
9-10 US Secret Service
7-8 American Express Bank International
7 OEM generators and day tank
6 Switchgear, storage
5 Switchgear, generators, transformers
4 Upper level of 3rd floor, switchgear
3 Lobby, SSB Conference Center, rentable space, manage
2 Open to first floor lobby, transformer vault upper level, upper level switchgear
1 Lobby, loading docks, existing Con Ed transformer vaults, fuel storage, lower level switchgear

When people say "no building in history has ever collapsed like that" I always just think back and wonder how during ALL of those other incidents of 2 commercially hijacked planes full of people and fuel crashing into all those OTHER giant twin towers.. how come all those other buildings didnt collapse the same way?

It's creepy I'm telling you.

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I am moving out.

As I stated in this thread : http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...=872779&page=3

And with moving out I mean really moving out.

I'm emigrating bigtime, no matter what it costs.

Things are getting nasty soon.

Going back to 811.

Best luck to all of you, will be back later, if possible.

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Easy, they just hand you a picture of your kids going to school, your wife doing her shopping, your mom tending to her garden and let you know how they could wipe you and your family off the face of the planet. The people behind 911 would also know if they did come forward who would believe them anyway? Nobody besides the 911 truth movement that are already labeled as crazies. Who would risk coming forward then?

No plane hit WTC 7:error

The biggest problem with an 'inside job' theory is the secrecy that would be required from the countless people involved in planning and executing this kind of attack.

The CIA established TOP SECRET prisons in Eastern Europe, and we knew about them withing about 18-months. These were sites so secret, that the only people who knew they existed were the CIA top brass, the politicians who authorized there existence, and he CIA personnel who were torturing prisoners at the TOP SECRET prisons. And yet, we found out about them within a very short time frame.

The kind of demolition you have claimed occurred at WTC7 would have required the use of outside civilian contractors to rig the building, and it would have required the residents of the building (ordinary people) to either be unaware or to turn a blind eye (be complict) to the rigging of their place of employment for demolition. Furthermore, everyone on the inside of this job would have to stay silent forever. All of this is highly unlikely. What about the janitor of WTC7...? Is he on the inside of this job, and has been paid of enough to secure his silence FOREVER. Not likely -- he would have had to have been killed, along with everyone who witnessed the planning and preparation for the demolition (secretaries, security guards, secret service agents, cleaners, receptionists, mail room clerks, etc. etc. etc.) They would have all had to be killed.

Cmon, common sense has no place here.

Here we go again, more of Kandah's nonsense. Why even bother with him? Really, just let him think what he wants. It's not like it makes any difference what a few retards believe happened or didn't happen.

For me it just seems more impossible to have a group of terrorist trained on single engine planes and from reading books take over 4 huge planes full of people with pocket knives then go on to hit 75% of their targets and knock down 3 huge steel framed buildings over the most heavily guarded air spaces in the world.

Yep. And the theory that no building has ever collapsed like that only holds up as an analog if surrounding skyscrapers have been smashed into by commercial airliners full of fuel.

You dont think erecting a building out in the desert and waiting for it to collapse in on itself is a fair analog right? Well I'm saying me either, you'd have to duplicate as perfectly as possible the exact conditions that existed to do a comparison.
Where's Adam and Jamie when you need em?

No but maybe the two big ass buildings that had recently collapsed right next to it might have.

But why believe me? I'm a crazy tin foil hat guy. Let's hear from the pilot who flew the same planes that actually went into the buildings that day.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...59506368831731

He must be on the crack too.

The 1975 fire in North Tower burned longer and didnt cause it to collpase... http://www.prisonplanet.com/Pages/Ap..._WTC_Fire.html

Anyway an office fire is not hot enough to weaken steel that much...

"For me it just seems more impossible to have a group of terrorist trained on single engine planes and from reading books take over 4 huge planes full of people with pocket knives then go on to hit 75% of their targets and knock down 3 huge steel framed buildings over the most heavily guarded air spaces in the world."

yeah

i'm no explosives expert but did timothy mcveigh use miles of invisible wiring and invisible equipment ?