started my human growth hormone/testosterone program today
 

10u somatropin- 1x daily and 100mg test topical- applied 2x daily.

i know the results of hgh therapy are not conclusive so i am looking forward to seeing what the results may or may not be for me.

anyone on the topical test? doctor said it works on 90% of the people taking it but if i don't see a change then he'll give me the injectable.

How is your diet and training routine? What are your body stats?

I'd like to hear how it turns out in a few months.

you rub it on your dick?

44 years old, 6', 180 pounds, 17% body fat

5-6 meals a day, 225 grams protein, 75-100 grams complex carbs (usu oatmeal), 3-4 cups vegetables, just over 1 gallon of water per day.

weight training 3x week, + plyometrics, kenpo, cardio 3x a week, 1 day off. bcaa & eaa supplements scheduled around workouts.

they have the test that you apply to the nutsuck via patch but i went with the gel, apply to inner thighs.

BF % is a little high. Ideally you would be better off starting HGH and Test at around 12% max, but hey, you are 44 years old and diet and training appear to be in check.

What are you using for PCT? Are you taking an AI during your cycle?

Are you trying to grow your dick or what?

Are you worried about hair loss? seems being a fat lard ass that I am is better then a bald and probably still lazy fat lard ass.

the doc said we'll do a blood panel in a month or so to check my liver so no PCT prescribed yet, he also said no need for an AI since this isn't a superdose of test.
i am taking a liquid vitamin/antioxidant/liver support

re: hairloss, the topical should be fine in that regard and esp. since i am not superdosing the test, hairloss should not be a worry, that being said i voiced my concern to him about that side effect.

I'd rather be a bald in shape ass....

why are you taking the HGH?

Oh damn. Your doctor prescribed this for you? Must be top notch HGH. Lucky bastard.

I'm with you BVF :1orglaugh

Smooth heads do not explode hearts last time I checked

Iwould run less HGH, IU 10 is too much in my opinion. More test 300-400 a week at least

as i've gotten older, my physical and mental quality of life isn't where i want it to be, even though i am active, exercising, and enjoying my time spent with friends and family.

exercise and physical activity in particular, i would find myself getting quite fatigued after 30 minutes or so of working out, sex, etc. even after several months of training.

He is using the test for supplemental therapy. I think his doctor put him on a low dose to avoid shutting down his natural test production

If you are over 40 (or even 35 imo), the question is, why are you not taking HGH?

doc said if i would notice tingling in my fingertips if the hgh was too high, so we'll see, i'll inquire about the 300-400 mg more per week of test.


all pharma is scripted.

No offense. This sounds like a cop out. Work out harder. Don't lift weights, run. And drop the strawberry shortcake.

Of course when you are out of shape you are going to get tired. That and the fact you are 44. lol, people and quick fixes. :1orglaugh

Because ever person who takes HGH is lazy and has a poor diet. Riiiight. Let the grown ups talk in this thread.

I don't think he is on 10iu a day, you must be very careful in comparing dosage that you are actually comparing the concentrations and units the same

I think it is more likely that he is on 1 iu per day which translates to a different amount of actual fluid depending on reconstitution concentration


would love to hear your progress as you go, thanks for the progress reports

you really should not make assumptions like this. esp. when you say things like do not work out, run. current exercise research proves you wrong. as does my lifestyle. my personal trainer would get a kick out of your comment

the somatropin is a powder form in a vial, i mixed in 3CCs of pharma water to create the solution and fire 10u of that combo.
i am not sure what the actual amount of hgh is after mixing.

You're a fucking moron. Now piss off. You must be a fat lazy one too. You seem to know a ton on the subject. Apparently it's much easier to pop some pills than work. Fat ass.

I never said you didn't work out. I said work out harder. 5lb ankle weights while drinking a McDonalds milkshake and doublefisting a Big mac while watching an exercise program on FitTV doesn't count. :1orglaugh

And just because Ronald McDonald has you lift his Quarter Pounder technically does not make him a "Personal Trainer".

Fuck i was lost at the start, i even tought we were talking about sex exchange lol

Carmine Raguso, go stick to threads that you actually have a clue about, you are only looking like a fool here.

Dude, the topical testosterone will practically melt the hair off of your head in record time if you are already thinning or prone to male pattern baldness. This I can tell you from personal experience. But it will also make you horny as hell and super charge your libido and give you all the benefits of higher testosterone in your body at your age, so as long as you are aware of that one potential drawback, all is good.

Faguso first off, you are a nobody. I'm in fantastic shape. Judging by your MORONIC posts in this thread. You obviously know nothing about fitness, biology, or science.

"Don't lift, run" - That statement just destroyed any ounce of credibility you think you had.

Are you a fake nick or just a douchetard? Prescott AZ sucks! Easily one of the most boring populated areas in AZ.

what does the vial say as far as total IU?

when you say you inject 10u of that, you mean that you are getting 30 injections out of one vial total?

yeah, thats why you're on HGH and testosteron


idiot.

STFU. You know shit. You probably ate fast food today and haven't been to a gym since you got picked on at the one in your high school.

he still is in high school :1orglaugh

thanks for that Jim, i will certainly watch the shower drain! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh


also, the hgh is omnitrope NOT somatropin, sorry for that.

d-null, the side of the vial states 5.8 mg/vial it will last no longer than 1 month, doc said i will use 1-2 vials per month but i am unsure if that is at 10u per day.

next, i've seen pimporn at a party or 3 a few years ago and the dude is ripped.

Some of you guys don't understand. People in their 30 & 40's and older who get into health and fitness add hormone replacement therapy to their regimens to increase their quality of life and better their physical and mental well being. It all goes hand in hand with eating better foods, lifting weights and exercising. The benefits are synergistic. Someday soon doctor prescribed testosterone for men and HGH for men and women over around 30-35 years old will simply be a routine thing that almost everyone who isn't very poor will do. After all, if you take care of yourself why would you want to let your body fall apart prematurely? This is a big part of aging, and you do not have to suffer it so much when there are legal doctor prescribed treatments to help.

:thumbsup

Hormone clinics are already under fire for opening in record numbers

I tried the gel and it did nothing for me ?

ok, that clears it up for me so I can explain it to you now

the omnitrope 5.8 mg vial roughly contains 17.4IU of growth hormone

the doc says you will use 1-2 vials per month, because it is difficult to inject and draw exactly 10u per shot, so with a little wastage you will use over 1 vial,

but at the calculated dose of the way you are mixing it, your 10u shot is equalling approximately 0.58 IU of growth hormone per day, which is a pretty good starting dose imo

sounds like you have a good doctor :thumbsup

well, the doc did say the gel doesn't work for everyone, siad ~90% of folks do see the results. i did consider going with the injectable but not really up for that big of a needle, 25 gauge, 1.5". the hgh is fired with an insulin syringe- tiny.

i hope the topical works but i'll switch if not. let the g/f give me the injection, she'd prolly get a kick outta that.

NICE! thanks for that. :)