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Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-12-2009 05:02 PM

Pit Bull owners inside please.
 
I'm wondering on where to find good information on making my pit more certified... Ya know licenses and shit so he's more trustworthy in communities and won't be so restrictive on him depending on where I'm at.

I pretty much wanting to do whatever I can to have proof that he's a good dog, well behaved, trained, etc to provide to anyone who needs to know that information, such as law enforcement, or city mayors and shit.

I tried searching Google, but I must not be finding any good information, or just not searching the right words.

Thanks in advance.

dyna mo 11-12-2009 05:03 PM

also, pit bull owners, please keep your pit bull leashed when in public places.

thanks in advance.

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-12-2009 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16545231)
also, pit bull owners, please keep your pit bull leashed when in public places.

thanks in advance.

What type of retard keeps a dog unleashed in a public place period?

AaronM 11-12-2009 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 16545283)
What type of retard keeps a dog unleashed in a public place period?


Usually the type that own pit bulls. :winkwink:

alias 11-12-2009 05:17 PM

Slap a muzzle on that bad boy and you shouldn't have problems anywhere, the downside is it attracts more attention and makes the dog *look* mean.

JD 11-12-2009 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 16545283)
What type of retard keeps a dog unleashed in a public place period?

my wife and I took our dogs and did a lap around a park's lake a few days ago... our dogs where the only ones on leashes :helpme

CYF 11-12-2009 05:26 PM

try the American Kennel Club's Canine Good Citizen program :thumbsup

Jeff R 11-12-2009 05:28 PM

Is your dog all pit or part pit?

The one city I know that is the worst on pit bulls is Denver.

I was worried when I lived for a few months, but since mine didn't have the dominating features of a pit I was able to feel somewhat safer that the pit bull police were going to nab her.

It's tough good luck

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-12-2009 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 16545290)
Usually the type that own pit bulls. :winkwink:

You shut your whore mouth mister!

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Originally Posted by CYF (Post 16545379)
try the American Kennel Club's Canine Good Citizen program :thumbsup

That's what I wanted to search for, thanks man. :thumbsup

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Originally Posted by AdultSpaceJeff (Post 16545386)
Is your dog all pit or part pit?

The one city I know that is the worst on pit bulls is Denver.

I was worried when I lived for a few months, but since mine didn't have the dominating features of a pit I was able to feel somewhat safer that the pit bull police were going to nab her.

It's tough good luck

Mine is full pit, he's not dominating, very womanly if you ask me, my mom's half rot pup that is 2 weeks younger than him beats the shit out of him, shit the cat owns his ass all the time too.

I just want to make sure he's 100% good no matter where I am.

CYF 11-12-2009 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 16545388)
That's what I wanted to search for, thanks man. :thumbsup

no problem :thumbsup

would love to meet your dog if you bring him with :)

dyna mo 11-12-2009 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 16545283)
What type of retard keeps a dog unleashed in a public place period?

i've had to change parks where i walk my dog due to a large # of pit bulls off leash there.

the owners also don't pick their dog's shit up.

fris 11-12-2009 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 16545290)
Usually the type that own pit bulls. :winkwink:

they are illegal to own here

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-12-2009 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CYF (Post 16545461)
no problem :thumbsup

would love to meet your dog if you bring him with :)

This is the most recent picture of my dog, Buddy. He's 6 months old today actually.

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._1129645_n.jpg

Jeff R 11-12-2009 06:06 PM

I don't have enough posts on this screen name to link it but if you go to youtube and search gigi darth invader you can see my part pit having fun when we were working at AVN a couple of years ago

CYF 11-12-2009 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 16545529)
This is the most recent picture of my dog, Buddy. He's 6 months old today actually.

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._1129645_n.jpg

cute puppy :thumbsup:thumbsup

alias 11-12-2009 06:18 PM

Nice looking dog.

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-12-2009 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CYF (Post 16545576)
cute puppy :thumbsup:thumbsup

He's a big baby, right after I snapped that picture he started whimpering and whining putting his head on the chair, what did he want? Me to put my hand down so he could lay on it and go to sleep. The little shit is such a pussy, he won't sleep unless I'm touching him.

Same with in bed, he has his own side just as if he were a person.

After Shock Media 11-12-2009 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 16545220)
I'm wondering on where to find good information on making my pit more certified... Ya know licenses and shit so he's more trustworthy in communities and won't be so restrictive on him depending on where I'm at.

I pretty much wanting to do whatever I can to have proof that he's a good dog, well behaved, trained, etc to provide to anyone who needs to know that information, such as law enforcement, or city mayors and shit.

I tried searching Google, but I must not be finding any good information, or just not searching the right words.

Thanks in advance.

Best you can do man is get the dog into obedience school and passed of course. Then you can see about getting it into a certified training school with a letter from the instructor. Though it is only going to help a tiny amount. The stats and notoriousness are just against you.

With the obedience school and training school (socialized would be best). You then would want to ensure you have a leash that is certified to hold that weight of a dog, perhaps a neck chain or choker that forces obedience and is also certified for your dogs size and weight. Lastly you would want to keep your dog in a muzzle anytime it is outside.

http://www.inch.com/~dogs/training.html

Even with all of that, you will be held to any laws, regulations, and whatever a city, county, state, country, or even landlord has in effect against your dog. Oh and you would want to pick up insurance that covers any actions your dog does.

smack 11-12-2009 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 16545388)
Mine is full pit, he's not dominating, very womanly if you ask me, my mom's half rot pup that is 2 weeks younger than him beats the shit out of him, shit the cat owns his ass all the time too.



bully dogs are sweethearts. mine doesn't have a mean bone in her body, and is the bitch of many a cat. easily one of the most god natured and affectionate dogs i have ever met. she's actually rolling around on her back trying to not-so-subtly solicit a belly rub as i type this. :1orglaugh

the american temperament testing society is something you might want to look in to as well. bullies regularly score higher than golden retrievers, and in fact many other dogs that are considered more ubiquitous as family pets.

http://www.atts.org/

Farang 11-12-2009 06:41 PM

My boy is the best!
http://img2.pict.com/8f/7d/a8/197139...0/dsc00312.jpg

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-12-2009 06:48 PM

Thanks for the info Smack and ASM.

Farang, nice picture, looks a lot like Buddy's uncle Sampson.

stoner529 11-12-2009 06:58 PM

i walk my dogs in the neighboorhood on leases all the time, only to have to pick my 50 lbs dog up in my arms when people with little dogs don't keep them on leases outside and they come running barking towards my dog. The only reason i pick him up is one pesky dog got to close and mine grabbed him by the neck. poor little doggy yelped so bad. when my dog freed him, he ran back to his parents and wondered what the fuck happened. not to mention the stupid pit bull that started following my wife and i. yes i said stupid pit bull cuz those dogs are pretty brainless.. my wife paniced because she has heard all the horrible things pit bulls can do. they can be very protective of the owner so when not on a leash they can attack ANYONE at ANYTIME. so yeah there are plenty of retards who don't leash their dogs. I can't wait till the day my dog eats another little puppy for barking at him.

alias 11-12-2009 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by stoner529 (Post 16545768)
i walk my dogs in the neighboorhood on leases all the time, only to have to pick my 50 lbs dog up in my arms when people with little dogs don't keep them on leases outside and they come running barking towards my dog. The only reason i pick him up is one pesky dog got to close and mine grabbed him by the neck. poor little doggy yelped so bad. when my dog freed him, he ran back to his parents and wondered what the fuck happened. not to mention the stupid pit bull that started following my wife and i. yes i said stupid pit bull cuz those dogs are pretty brainless.. my wife paniced because she has heard all the horrible things pit bulls can do. they can be very protective of the owner so when not on a leash they can attack ANYONE at ANYTIME. so yeah there are plenty of retards who don't leash their dogs. I can't wait till the day my dog eats another little puppy for barking at him.

I'm thinking you are stoned, very stoned.

Poindexterity 11-12-2009 08:08 PM

I love pit bulls.
like any dog, they are sweet and loyal when trained properly, and the vast majority will go their whole happy lives without ever being aggressive toward a human.

but still, i prefer to own a dog whose ass i could kick.

juuuuust in case

stoner529 11-12-2009 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by alias (Post 16545881)
I'm thinking you are stoned, very stoned.

never ever stoned(i am against all drugs), however i can't believe i spelled leashes wrong at least twice.

Blingbaby 11-12-2009 10:28 PM

It's a fucking dog, this one in particular bred to kill. Not a baby lover. Dog dog dog!!! Get a fucking clue

AaronM 11-12-2009 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 16545388)
You shut your whore mouth mister!


Yes Daddy.

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-12-2009 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Blingbaby (Post 16546351)
It's a fucking dog, this one in particular bred to kill. Not a baby lover. Dog dog dog!!! Get a fucking clue

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I love people who are totally against Pit Bulls who come in a thread, where they aren't asked to come into, and start talking trash.

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-12-2009 10:45 PM

http://www.understand-a-bull.com/Art...oicPitties.htm

Read that and see how bad Pit Bulls who are raised properly really are.

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-12-2009 10:55 PM

Here's a really good one:
http://www.understand-a-bull.com/Art...ties/Missy.pdf

Missy: Saved young boy from 2 dogs mauling him.

Ironic huh? A Pit Bull saving a child from being mauled by 2 dogs?

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-12-2009 10:56 PM

More big bad Pit Bull news!

http://www.forpitssake.org/home.html

After Shock Media 11-12-2009 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 16546376)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I love people who are totally against Pit Bulls who come in a thread, where they aren't asked to come into, and start talking trash.

Well I am trying to help but I really do not much like the breed. I do get the whole nature/nurture argument and what both sides have to say. I have researched it to no end. My conclusion which is slightly negative came down to one silly question that stuck in my head. I just like to assist.

Most owners say their dogs are big babies, never hurt a flea, etc.
Ask the owner what its name is and then you get names like Adolf, Killer, Slaughter, Ruthless, etc.
Someone needs to explain that to me.

munki 11-12-2009 11:03 PM

Our chow is AKC good citizen certified, and while pits are a bit more publicized, chows have much the same reputation...

I put it to people this way, if you have an issue with my dog... you have issues in general.

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-12-2009 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 16546417)
Well I am trying to help but I really do not much like the breed. I do get the whole nature/nurture argument and what both sides have to say. I have researched it to no end. My conclusion which is slightly negative came down to one silly question that stuck in my head. I just like to assist.

Most owners say their dogs are big babies, never hurt a flea, etc.
Ask the owner what its name is and then you get names like Adolf, Killer, Slaughter, Ruthless, etc.
Someone needs to explain that to me.

I respect your opinion and your slight hate towards them, why? Because you actually are educated and know about them, everyone else just sees the bad shit about them and starts up with the torches and angry mobs.

Any bad story about a Pit, look at the owner, I bet 9 times out of 10, they are a gang banger looking black guy with a grill and gold chains around his neck, he had his Pit mainly for fighting.

Now look at Pits of normal family people and see they won't hurt a fly.

I wanted to give Buddy a badass name also, but mostly because how silly does it look yelling "COME HERE FLUFFY!!" and all of the sudden a big muscular Pit Bull comes running towards the guy?

CYF 11-12-2009 11:20 PM

Ten Facts About Pit Bulls Every One Should Know

1. Pit Bulls are commonly used as therapy dogs. Whether they are visiting a senior care facility or helping someone recover from an emotional accident, Pit Bulls are making a mark as outstanding therapy dogs.

2. Pit Bulls are used in Search and Rescue work. One example of well known SAR Pit Bulls is Kris Crawford and her dogs. Kris and her dogs have helped save the lives of many people during their efforts. http://www.ForPitsSake.org

3. Pit Bulls serve as narcotic and bomb sniffing dogs. One Pit Bull, Popsicle (named that because he was found in an old freezer) has the largest recorded single drug find in Texas history. Read more about Popsicle here. Including how he found over 3,000 lbs of cocaine in Hildago, Texas.

4. Pit Bulls are great with kids. They weren't referred to as the "nanny's dog" for nothing that's for sure.

5. Pit Bulls are not human aggressive. The American Pit Bull Terrier as a breed is not human aggressive. In fact, quite the opposite is true of the breed. They are gentle and loving dogs. Like any dog individuals can be unsound and have behavior problems.

6. The Pit Bull was so popular in the early 1900's they were our mascot not only in World War One, but World War Two as well. They were featured on recruiting and propoganda posters during this time period.

7. Sgt. Stubby. A Pit Bull war hero. Stubby was wounded in action twice, he saved his entire platoon by warning them of a poison gas attack and he single handedly captured a German spy.

8. Pete the Pup on the orginal Little Rascals was a Pit Bull.

9. Pit Bulls score an 83.4% passing rate with the American Temperament Test Society. That's better than the popular Border Collie (a breed who scores 79.6%). View the ATTS stats here.

10. They are dogs not killing machines.

They're also the most popular dog in San Francisco.

http://www.pitbulllovers.com/pit-bul...ould-know.html

After Shock Media 11-12-2009 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 16546448)
I respect your opinion and your slight hate towards them, why? Because you actually are educated and know about them, everyone else just sees the bad shit about them and starts up with the torches and angry mobs.

Any bad story about a Pit, look at the owner, I bet 9 times out of 10, they are a gang banger looking black guy with a grill and gold chains around his neck, he had his Pit mainly for fighting.

Now look at Pits of normal family people and see they won't hurt a fly.

I wanted to give Buddy a badass name also, but mostly because how silly does it look yelling "COME HERE FLUFFY!!" and all of the sudden a big muscular Pit Bull comes running towards the guy?

I get there is a WHOLE LOT of nurture issues going on with pit bulls and their issues. These people bring out the bad in the dogs genetics. The dogs were breed for certain behaviors though. Once again many of the "breeders" are also the not to responsible fucks who make mean dogs and again are breeding them just for such behavior and body types.

I am sure I could find good things the dogs have done for many of the bad things they have done. Hell I did in my research. I also found other issues that made me personally ban them at any of my rental units (they are not the only breed either that is banned). Biggest issue was the breeders. One of our tenets wants to get one. I asked from where before I rejected her. She said this guy two streets over is selling them. I instantly knew what guy it was. The dude has had dogs taken from him by the city. He has been fined for assorted dog issues. This fucker was breeding dogs that were mean on purpose.
Of course the lady at our unit gave me the whole rift about raising them and loving them. I still said no with the only reason given of no large dogs.

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-13-2009 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 16546482)
I get there is a WHOLE LOT of nurture issues going on with pit bulls and their issues. These people bring out the bad in the dogs genetics. The dogs were breed for certain behaviors though. Once again many of the "breeders" are also the not to responsible fucks who make mean dogs and again are breeding them just for such behavior and body types.

I am sure I could find good things the dogs have done for many of the bad things they have done. Hell I did in my research. I also found other issues that made me personally ban them at any of my rental units (they are not the only breed either that is banned). Biggest issue was the breeders. One of our tenets wants to get one. I asked from where before I rejected her. She said this guy two streets over is selling them. I instantly knew what guy it was. The dude has had dogs taken from him by the city. He has been fined for assorted dog issues. This fucker was breeding dogs that were mean on purpose.
Of course the lady at our unit gave me the whole rift about raising them and loving them. I still said no with the only reason given of no large dogs.

See that situation is understandable. My dog is the product of 2 Pit Bulls I've been around since both the mother and father were pups themselves. The mother is my ex girlfriends dog, who we watched go into a baby room, jump up and put her paws on the crib, stare at the baby for a minute, jump down, and lay next to the crib and not leave until the baby woke up. She was making sure the baby was ok, and then stayed by her side until she woke up. Actually the first Pit Bull I've encountered and made me change my whole mind on Pit Bulls myself.

After Shock Media 11-13-2009 12:23 AM

I can be very reasonable. I still remain neutral with a slight amount of aversion to them as a breed. I however do get that situations are unique and I never paint with a wide stroke on most any issue.

Mathematically odds wise and taking into account how judges feel about the breed itself, along with most of my county and the local news stations. There is no way I could allow those with such dogs to live on any property that we own. I would love to take it case by case, I just can not. Only way I could see myself allowing one to be owned by a tenet of ours, would be if the tenet had a disability and it was a trained service dog. Then naturally I could not prevent ownership due to the disability act (laws at Federal level). Which by the way contains your potential loophole on how to make your dog legal for at least a couple years (there are always loopholes in the government).

Like I said though I do not just ban pit bulls either. I have a large variety of dogs on the list and even some smaller dogs like poodles. The poodles are a personal issue for me.

LeRoy 11-13-2009 12:58 AM

Stafford-shire Terriers are baddass. My buddy had one and the thing was a terror. Always scared the fuck out of me.

He always kept telling me that the UKC http://www.ukcdogs.com thing is for a lot of pit owners . Cool dog

Black Label Scripts 11-13-2009 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 16545220)
I'm wondering on where to find good information on making my pit more certified... Ya know licenses and shit so he's more trustworthy in communities and won't be so restrictive on him depending on where I'm at.

I pretty much wanting to do whatever I can to have proof that he's a good dog, well behaved, trained, etc to provide to anyone who needs to know that information, such as law enforcement, or city mayors and shit.

I tried searching Google, but I must not be finding any good information, or just not searching the right words.

Thanks in advance.

:2 cents::2 cents:


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