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Konda 09-09-2010 09:32 PM

Epassporte - Interesting Info - Your money is probably in Curaçao
 
As most of you probably know, ePassporte is incorporated in Curaçao.

People with business accounts know that wires TO ePassporte always went to Curaçao. First to Fortis bank, and lately to United Ibank. So their bank in Curaçao is where the majority of the funds are send to.

https://www.epassporte.com/secure/do...structions.pdf

ePassporte NV (Curaçao) just uses (used) the St.Kitts-Nevis-Aguila National Bank for the Virtual Visa and Visa Debit Cards.

So this could mean that the money in your ePassporte Wallet is in the Curaçao bank, and the money in your ePassporte Virtual Visa is in St. Kitts.

You can read on the back of your ePassporte Card "This card is issued by St.Kitts-Nevis-Aguila National Bank.... under co-branding agreement with between ePassporte NV...If found send to ePassporte NV... Curaçao, Netherlands Antilles)

Now the interesting thing is that the bank in Curaçao that ePassporte uses (United Ibank) is owned/managed by the same people that own/manage ePassporte.

The bank where all wire transfers to ePassporte go to is United International Bank N.V.: http://www.united-ibank.com/ (http://www.united-itrust.com/)
This bank was founded in 2009... setup by exactly the same people that setup ePassporte

So the millions of dollars that affiliate program owners combined wire to ePassporte each month go to:

United International Bank N.V.
Landhuis Joonchi 2 Kaya Richard J Beaujon Z/N Curacao, Netherlands Antilles
Account name: ePassporte N.V.

(Notice how this is the same address as on the back of your ePassporte card)

So it seems that most money is in Curaçao, in an actual bank that is managed by the same people that manage ePassporte. So whatever problems there are with the St. Kitts bank, a lot of money should be in Curaçao.

Management of United International Bank N.V.: http://www.united-itrust.com/en/our_management/

Gregory Elias

Remember when ePassporte shut down all poker relationships a few years ago. The letter that ePassporte send out to the Poker sites was signed by Managing Directors Gregory Elias and United International Trust.

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/gregory-elias/9/219/a31
Owner
the United Trust Company N.V.

The United Trust Company N.V.
Landhuis Joonchi
Kaya Richard J. Beaujon z/n
P.O. Box 837, Willemstad
Curaçao, Netherlands Antilles

http://www.manta.com/coms2/dnbcompany_87ls43
Epassporte N V
C/O: United International Trust N V
Willemstad, Netherlands Antilles

ePassporte, N.V.
Gregory Elias
Landhuis Joonchi Kaya Richard J. Beaujon z/n
Curacao, AN

directfiesta 09-09-2010 09:38 PM

nice info ....

lagcam 09-09-2010 09:40 PM

Yes you are right, that IS interesting. Nice find.

The bank being so new also explains why many banks online systems have had trouble finding the swift code to wire in.

Fenris Wolf 09-09-2010 09:40 PM

Nice work.

epitome 09-09-2010 09:49 PM

So wait, if Chris Mallick owns a bank then he can make loans to himself. For something like ... oh, I don't know ... a movie. If said movie happens to bomb, then its the shareholders of that bank, which is Epass account holders, that is on the hook.

This actually make sense ... the deficiency reported to Visa by St. Kitts may be that the bank Mallick owns was no longer able to fund transactions.

Makes perfect sense to me. Too much sense, in fact.

hypedough 09-09-2010 09:55 PM

No wonder their fucking SWIFT code wasn't in BofA's online system. Knew something wasn't right if I had to go in person to make wire transfers to ePass. I really hope they fall by the wayside so something easier and more simple can be implemented.

adult-help 09-09-2010 09:55 PM

nice info. but this could confirm why Michael is saying that we can request a wire for funds in our wallet. since it goes out from this bank.

epitome 09-09-2010 09:56 PM

Adding to my previous thoughts, loaning money to a production company would be even easier if Chris Mallick's name is not officially attached to the bank. The thing he'd want to do in that instance is have someone close to him own and manage the bank thereby allowing himself to get sweetheart deals. Quite a few banks in the US hit problems when they were investing in projects of its managers and/or friends and family of managers.

gumdrop 09-09-2010 10:01 PM

However, isn't Paramount Pictures involved?
Let's see...

Production Companies:
Paramount Pictures (presents)
Mallick Media (presents)
Oxymoron Entertainment
Middle Pictures

Between the five of them - 305+ films in the past ten years.

I am just throwing shit out there...who's funding who?
Paramount is a HUGH company...don't you think they would find the bucks?

adult-help 09-09-2010 10:01 PM

so is it time now that someone starts calling that bank? maybe they will know smth..

CYF 09-09-2010 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 17486827)
So wait, if Chris Mallick owns a bank then he can make loans to himself. For something like ... oh, I don't know ... a movie. If said movie happens to bomb, then its the shareholders of that bank, which is Epass account holders, that is on the hook.

This actually make sense ... the deficiency reported to Visa by St. Kitts may be that the bank Mallick owns was no longer able to fund transactions.

Makes perfect sense to me. Too much sense, in fact.

That makes sense to me too. I'm starting to doubt we're ever going to see a penny.

epitome 09-09-2010 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gumdrop (Post 17486850)
However, isn't Paramount Pictures involved?
Let's see...

Production Companies:
Paramount Pictures (presents)
Mallick Media (presents)
Oxymoron Entertainment
Middle Pictures

Between the five of them - 305+ films in the past ten years.

I am just throwing shit out there...who's funding who?
Paramount is a HUGH company...don't you think they would find the bucks?

As I understand it from something posted here (if it was correct), Paramount only agreed to distribute Middle Men for a fee. That would mean they didn't have their own money tied up in it, but rather charged Mallick Media/Oxymoron in order to distribute it.

Either way, Mallick's skin was in the game ... you do not get executive producer credits unless you have skin in.

The big question is whose money made the film?

I never subscribed to the conspiracy theory that Mallick stole the money. However, you only start a bank to lend money so I find it highly suspect that Mallick is now tied to an overseas bank.

This thread changed it all for me. This isn't a conspiracy theory ... this kind of stuff happens every day.

Konda 09-09-2010 10:07 PM

Quote:

from Larry Chavana <[email protected]>
to Larry Chavana <[email protected]>
date Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 6:30 AM
subject ePassporte's New Bank Account

Hello,

On Monday afternoon, we sent out a notice containing instructions for wiring funds to ePassporte's new bank account with United International Bank. Please be advised that the account number information provided on that form was incorrect. The correct account number for our account with United International Bank is....
Funny how someone from oxymoronent.com (= Oxymoron Entertainment / Middlemen) informs ePassporte customers about their new wire info to United International Bank

directfiesta 09-09-2010 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gumdrop (Post 17486850)
However, isn't Paramount Pictures involved?
Let's see...

Production Companies:
Paramount Pictures (presents)
Mallick Media (presents)
Oxymoron Entertainment
Middle Pictures

Between the five of them - 305+ films in the past ten years.

I am just throwing shit out there...who's funding who?
Paramount is a HUGH company...don't you think they would find the bucks?

Paramount, in fact Vantage ( which is their indie/artie division ) did a " pick-up " ( were paid by the film company ) so take them out of your great equation ... what is left ?

securedata 09-09-2010 10:17 PM

wtf so mallick runs this bank, loans himself our money ($20M) and his film makes $325k so we all lose $17M...sounds like a fair deal...i can see this guy getting hit

Konda 09-09-2010 10:18 PM

Quote:

from Larry Chavana <[email protected]>
to Larry Chavana <[email protected]>
date Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 6:30 AM
subject ePassporte's New Bank Account

Hello,

On Monday afternoon, we sent out a notice containing instructions for wiring funds to ePassporte's new bank account with United International Bank. Please be advised that the account number information provided on that form was incorrect. The correct account number for our account with United International Bank is....
I just realize how serious this email is.

This is basically an email from Oxymoron Entertainment to all ePassporte business accounts telling them to wire their funds to United International Bank, which is owned/managed by themselves....

This means that Oxymoron Entertainment probably used the ePassporte money for their Middle Men movie distribution...

securedata 09-09-2010 10:20 PM

Box Office
Budget:
$22,000,000 (estimated)
Opening Weekend:
$325,641 (USA) (8 August 2010) (252 Screens)
Gross:
$723,714 (USA) (22 August 2010)

epitome 09-09-2010 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by securedata (Post 17486885)
wtf so mallick runs this bank, loans himself our money ($20M) and his film makes $325k so we all lose $17M...sounds like a fair deal...i can see this guy getting hit

And if he did do that ...

and the movie would have made $500 million, we wouldn't have seen a penny of it.

Shafted either way.

gumdrop 09-09-2010 10:23 PM

This is so James Bond Casino Royale....

epitome 09-09-2010 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konda (Post 17486886)
I just realize how serious this email is.

This is basically an email from Oxymoron Entertainment to all ePassporte business accounts telling them to wire their funds to United International Bank, which is owned/managed by themselves....

This means that Oxymoron Entertainment probably used the ePassporte money for their Middle Men movie distribution...

Bingo!

It's actually all quite brilliant. Mallick is credited with thinking up some pretty crafty shit over the years so none of this would be beyond his ability to conceive.

The thing is, nobody banked on Middle Men bombing. You only make movies you think are going to sell.

Had Middle Men broke even or profited ... and it was funded by United International Bank, nobody would have been the wiser that they were lenders on Mallick movies.

That is, of course, if this is how things were done. At this point all we can do is speculate because nobody is giving us answers.

I imagine Mallick calling around the globe now trying to find investors for his little bank to make everything all right again.

xxweekxx 09-09-2010 10:29 PM

yeah some guy came on here a while back and said he is not gonna use epassporte cuz of middle men tanking, everyone laughed at him..

come to think of it.. where would the $18million have come from?? Chris's personal account??

You think he just opened up his account and signed a check for $millions for a movie?? lol

nah he'll get a loan for that shit... hmm maybe his own bank? lol. even billionaires dont use their personal money`

Barry-xlovecam 09-09-2010 10:29 PM

United Trust » Domiciliation services / office rental.

Fortis Bank is a real bank.

securedata 09-09-2010 10:30 PM

i imagine some people are looking for mallick now....how the fuck can you steal $20M...obviously the Netherlands Antilles are a big fucking sham, maybe sue the govt there for allowing this

gumdrop 09-09-2010 10:31 PM

I've heard something about the fact there is a followup to it that's a documentary...is that true?

epitome 09-09-2010 10:31 PM

Konda, props to you ... obviously things are not right at Epass and you may have dug up the link that finally connects all of the dots.

It will be interesting to see how all of this shakes out. Personally, I hope it works out because it will be 10x harder to conduct business without Epass. I'm about to go on a link buying spree and finding a way to get funds to people will be a nightmare.

I was confident things would work out until I saw that bogus follow-up statement that Epassporte issued today.

lagcam 09-09-2010 10:40 PM

Time for a brief pause for everybody to calm down and separate FACT (original post) from FICTION (most things subsequently posted).

We do not KNOW for a fact that epassporte account funds were used or that anything untoward has been done.

We do know that Chris Mallick must have amassed a nice personal fortune over the years.

You can dismiss the press release where it stated that our money was safe and that we would all be "satisfied" with the outcome if you want, but personally, I prefer a slim chance over a zero chance, and too much crazy wild speculation and accusation will not get us paid, but could stop or delay us getting paid as more and more official parties take an interest.

directfiesta 09-09-2010 10:46 PM

Quote:

Mallick сhοѕе tο finance ?Middle Men,? nοt bесаυѕе studios wουld deem іtѕ content taboo, rаthеr thаt Gallo аnd hіѕ team сουld hаνе a stronger rein creatively.

?I?m a serial entrepreneur аnd I don?t work well fοr public, rаthеr wіth public,? ѕауѕ Mallick, ?I always hаd thе intention οf mаkіng thіѕ movie without thе script being diluted bу committee decisions.?

Paramount bουght ?Middle Men? soon аftеr іt played аt thе Santa Barbara Film Festival.

Mallick launched hіѕ film finance firm Oxymoron Entertainment іn 2006. One οf thе first features hе served аѕ executive producer οn wаѕ Giancarlo Esposito?s drama ?Gospel Hill.? Upon returning frοm thе Cannes Film Festival, Gallo, Ribisi аnd Kevin Pollack hаd such a fаntаѕtіс time working fοr Mallick, thеу joined forces οn a second feature together, a mystery thriller, entitled ?Columbus Circle.? Amy Smart аnd Selma Blair co-star.

?Next tο Leonard Maltin, Chris knows more аbουt movies thаn аnу studio executive,? ѕауѕ Gallo, ?Hе produced ?Middle Men? frοm a filmgoers? perspective аnd thаt?s a breath οf fresh air.

?I don?t believe іn (movie going) research. Many public I hаνе worked wіth hаνе formulas (аbουt filmmaking) аnd іf thеу wеrе rіght, a movie wouldn?t mаkе money,? ѕауѕ Gallo, ?Thеrе?s always аn X Factor аbουt whу a movie іѕ fаntаѕtіс аnd succeeds.?

http://www.kifni41.co.cc/2010/08/%E2...-his-past.html

a lot of hot air in there ....

adult-help 09-09-2010 11:00 PM

Time for a brief pause for everybody to calm down and separate FACT (original post) from FICTION (most things subsequently posted).
---
epass is fueling this themselves because of those statements they issued which dont tell us anything..

Konda 09-09-2010 11:12 PM

Official Company registry info:

Epass:

http://www.curacao-chamber.an/info/r...legalformid=51

Trade name EPASSPORTE N.V.
Legal form Limited Liability Company
Official company name EPASSPORTE N.V.
Statutory seat Curaçao
Date of incorporation August 19, 2002

Title description Managing Director
Name Gregory Edward Elias

United International Bank N.V. (the bank where all Epass incoming wires were send to in the last 3 months)

http://www.curacao-chamber.an/info/r...legalformid=51

Trade name United International Bank N.V.
Legal form Limited Liability Company
Official company name United International Bank N.V.
Statutory seat Curaçao
Date of incorporation May 11, 2009

Title description Managing Director/Chairman
Name Gregory Edward Elias

k0nr4d 09-09-2010 11:36 PM

If only we were all smart enough to have checked this kind of stuff out BEFORE dumping money into their system. I'm sure we'll know for next time...

Konda 09-09-2010 11:39 PM

So besides Mallick at least 1 former and 2 current ePassporte staff members are also employed at at Oxymoron Entertainment.

xxweekxx 09-09-2010 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konda (Post 17487020)
So besides Mallick at least 1 former and 2 current ePassporte staff members are also employed at at Oxymoron Entertainment.

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

xmas13 09-09-2010 11:52 PM

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

Alprazolam 09-10-2010 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by securedata (Post 17486885)
wtf so mallick runs this bank, loans himself our money ($20M) and his film makes $325k so we all lose $17M...sounds like a fair deal...i can see this guy getting hit

please tell me you are not a math teacher, or planning to be one when you fail at adult internet. :error

want to try again?

securedata 09-10-2010 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alprazolam (Post 17487051)
please tell me you are not a math teacher, or planning to be one when you fail at adult internet. :error

want to try again?


ok whatever its hard to add when you feel like stomping someones face into dust...:disgust

Alprazolam 09-10-2010 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by securedata (Post 17487054)
ok whatever its hard to add when you feel like stomping someones face into dust...:disgust

understood. and accepted. :thumbsup

Vince Russo 09-10-2010 12:21 AM

Im having a difficult time comprehending this. What exactly does this all mean?

Mike Dutch 09-10-2010 12:34 AM

interesting read, would be nice to see this confirmed

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 09-10-2010 12:36 AM

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teomaxxx 09-10-2010 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxweekxx (Post 17486907)
yeah some guy came on here a while back and said he is not gonna use epassporte cuz of middle men tanking, everyone laughed at him..

I was thinking that this guy could be proven right, so I had intention to withdraw all money from epass. well, drinking like a fucking idiot for few days in the meantime, i didnt managed to do that and left there over 10k.


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