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And I don't know about you guys but micro payments imo is $1.99 or less. |
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I shouldn't need to tell anyone here what happens when everyone's margins shrink that much that fast... and everyone else's (who didn't lower prices) sales hit rock bottom. Porn.com would do better NOT to drop their pricing like this... and especially not do Adult industry Press Releases. If the majority decides to hop on board, we're going to see the end of the adult industry as we know it brought on in a rather violent and abrupt manner.
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Where did the hentai content come from? Just curious.
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I have done a lot of testing over the years on price points and found the the discount rates work great but not for extended periods. A one week discount point marketed well can create some urgency to purchase and sales just, however in weeks three and over the benefits drop away and the ROI dropped below the level of the more traditional price points.
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As for the flurry of requests, we will fast track the discount pricing for affiliates to promote.
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Netflixs has a much greater pool to grab from so cant compare really.
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hentai content is on the move
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So we have to offer up more porn for less? Wonderful.
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Might make sense for more popular niches but microniches can still command higher rates... unless they get ripped by tubes
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![]() But seriously... their product offering is absolute crap that looks like it's from 1992 and their reporting doesn't even work in most browsers. Their only attempted update was a complete failure. The only reason they're still around is because they're just about the ONLY ones around...
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Pricing is an art. You have to understand your consumer and be very close to what their perceived value is. Look at what happened to Blockbuster; at one point they were making a killing with their $30/month membership that allowed you to rent 2 movies at a time in their brick and mortar store. Then came along Netflix and then Redbox. We all know the rest.
Piracy is also an issue with pricing for virtual goods. How easy is it to obtain pirate content. Netflix seems to have found his pricing point for streaming content at $7.99, the problem I see with it is that it lacks most latest releases and does not offer the extra features of a DVD like subtitles and bonus content. From what I heard, Netflix is working with large studios to remedy this, and I think their new price point will probably be a couple of dollars more. Now, with porn; we all know how easy it is to get free porn, so I think that the days of charging $30/$40 for content are coming to an end, except maybe for some very specific hard to find niche. I think that a program who offers quality sites with quality content at the sub $10 mark will do very well. If someone has to spend less than $10 a month, then they will be more likely to pay for it rather than hunt for free porn. Education is also key. True or somewhat true; a lot of people get their computer infected while looking for pirated content, lately I have seen a lot of people who are seriously considering stopping to look for free stuff. Now the hardcore content pirate will probably not care and will continue, but we are about to see a shift in online habits for the mainstream user when it comes to looking for free stuff. And those who can offer the content at a price that the mainstream guys think is acceptable will be the leader of the new wave...
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please explain the extra costs associated with micro payments.
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Processing fees per transaction would need to be greatly discounted to make it work.
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Lowering the pricing structure on a domain as Porn.com will be a win-win situation, for sure very attractive for the consumers.
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Those "9bucksomething" sites that are on spacash were never heard of again.
Porn.com is competing directly with the tube sites, because they show the same boring generic content. No wonder that they have to lower their price point.
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As long as the consumer doesn't feel ripped off, this might be a good move. Most tube fare = blurry shit.
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The cost of processing are not a percentage but rather fixed costs. So if your fixed costs per transaction are let's say $0.45 per transaction. On $20 transactions that's nothing. If every transaction is $0.99 then it's a big difference and a big problem.
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To be fair every <$10 site i've ever seen has been absolute crap and not worth paying for. That's why they failed. |
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Hulu Plus is also $7.99/mo
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As a director, I dont think there content is good. Nothing personal. So yea, I'd sell it at 8 bucks or less too. I dont have a problem selling mine at 30.
And thats the bottom line. DS P.S. It's a waste of an awesome domain name IMO
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im not impressed :2cents
its not as if everyone is going to start joining porn.com cause its priced at $10 per month. |
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For a site like Porn.com it may be a good move. They compete with other sites that have similar content which is the closest comparison you can make to Netflix if you want to go down that logical road.
For sites that a offer something more unique, a lower price point might not work out so well. Piracy aside, a quality porn paysite should be a unique product so the standard price point calculus that includes competition doesn't really apply. But as I said earlier, sites that are similar might benefit from this. When things are working properly, porn sites should compete with each other on content, not really on price. Bigger sites within the same niche may start competing on price but I only see that among the really big sites.
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But having said that...I think that every site out there should lower their memberships to loss than $10 a month. All of you. I think that would be great! And I'll keep ours at $29.99 recurring and make even bigger sales and more money because my shit will appear to be even more valuable. ![]() By the way...I woke up on Monday listening to the news babbling on and on about how it was "Cyber Monday" or whatever b.s. they make up to coerce consumers. So I put up a big join link on my non-affiliate tour offering a one year non-recurring $200 membership (which saves a person about $160 for the year) as a one day "Cyber Monday" special. I didn't do anything except put that link up and took it down the next day. It was easy money. I'm thinking about doing another one in an email out to my database of ex-members around the first of the year. While you guys are thinking "Micro" I'm thinking "Macro" I make a pretty big share of $79.99 for 90 days non-recurring sales too. And those guys "rebill" because when their 90 days are up...almost 100% of them re-sign up. They just don't like to be rebilled automatically. It's weird. I also have a "VOD" side to the site where I have all of our old scenes that were already ripped on torrents before I started protecting our stuff, and I offer those at $10 a download per scene! And a lot of people will buy those scenes at $10 each and end up spending hundreds of dollars when they could just join and get them all for $29.99 The key isn't necessarily "micro-payments", but rather a variety of options. My people get a $29.99 30 day recurring, a $10 5 day non-recurring, the Intellichat $2.95 1 day trial that recurs at $29.99 for 30 days, a 90 day $79.99 non-recurring, and the $10 per scene VOD. And they all make a nice percentage of sales. |
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Same back
![]() ![]() The good news, the pricing is just stage one. We are ramp'ing up to 2 exclusive HD updates a day, plus the usual DVD releases.
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Some areas we are expanding,
http://www.porn.com/sites.html - going to 2 updates a day. For the true haters you should keep an eye on this specific section in the coming months: http://www.porn.com/sites/PTV/PORNCOM-TV.html?
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I agree with Robbie on this one. There are a variety of consumer types.
We have people who will pay $9.99 to own one 15min scene. People who pay $150 in an evening to cam. People who prefer to prepay and people who don't mind re-billing. |
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I know of very few processors or banks that allow $200 charges. Chargebacks on those are going to be a bitch too. Hope it works out for him.
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did not read any of the thread but as far as Netflix, they need 70 million subscribers by 2014 to sustain their current price model. there are only 100 million households in the US. So..............
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I think we have higher prices than anyone here. We have monthly rates of 54.95, 64.95 and 80.00.
If you value your product as cheap.. then by all means blow it out for pennies. If you set your mind and value your product as superior. Quality customers will join and rebill for life.
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First off...our site is different. It's fan based. Not a generic site with tons of girls on it. Guys that join Claudia-Marie.Com join and are very loyal. They don't chargeback very often. And second, here's how a processor and bank does it (I've "x"d out the sensitive info): Site: Claudia-Marie: New Tube Style Tour Program: xxxxxxxxxxx Campaign: xxxxxxxxxxx Username: xxxxxxxxxxxx Password: xxxxxxxxxxxxx Referrer: Join IP: xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Full Name: xxxxxxxxxxxx Address: xxxxxxxxxxxxx E-Mail: xxxxxxxxxxx Status: Active Member Last Biller Visited: NETBILLING Joined: 2010-11-29 21:18:52 Last Login: 0000-00-00 00:00:00 Will expire: 2011-11-29 21:18:52 Biller: NETBILLING Subscription: xxxxxxxxxxxx Payment: Credit Cards Option: $200 1 Year Membership No Rebills Spent: $200.00 Cost (Reseller): $0.00 Cost (Biller): $43.00 Profit: $157.00 |
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Dave, to expound on the customer loyalty and my non-fear of chargebacks...that member that I just showed you his sale for from "Cyber Monday" for $200, I looked up his history with us just now out of curiosity.
He first joined claudia-marie.com on March 22 of 2009. Stayed a member until Oct. of 2009 Rejoined in Feb. of 2010 and stayed a member until August. And now just bought that one year $200 membership. That is what I'm talking about. ![]() |
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Maybe you should try a lifetime special. I'm sure you'll have a few takers.
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Cost (Biller): $43.00 If that is what you paid in fees, ouch.
Your girl does make us some nice coin indirectly: http://www.livecams.com/cam/ClaudiaMarie/
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I gave her hell and told her to buck up and get to work, and then she asked me how I feel after I cum...and I had to truthfully say that all I want to do is go to sleep after I cum. ![]() So as dumb as it sounds...I have to sympathize with her on the hours she puts in doing cam shows. heh-heh |
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