Average Conversions in Adult these days. - GoFuckYourself.com

cherrylula · 12-12-2010, 05:31 PM

I remember when sales were averaging 1:250 on tgp traffic. Today's average? I have no idea, things have changed so much.

I remember when you could make an avs and make a sale like 1:25 the same night.

and then google would update, the SE traffic would come, and you could get nice terms coming in real fast and sales like popcorn.

fuuuuck.... with the tubes I have no idea what a decent conversion is, haven't been freshening things up enough lol

Agent 488 · 12-12-2010, 05:32 PM

between 1:25 and 1:15,000.

cherrylula · 12-12-2010, 05:33 PM

and then the blog thing blew up... I fucking hate blogs now.

I have a bunch of sites to update, and I swear I am going to nuke all the blogs I find. Just because.

cherrylula · 12-12-2010, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488

between 1:25 and 1:15,000.

I would think double digit conversions are like ancient internet history now, like wagons and horses.

Si · 12-12-2010, 05:34 PM

1:500 - 1:1000 on my best sponsors

1:10000 on others

cherrylula · 12-12-2010, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Si

1:500 - 1:1000 on my best sponsors

1:10000 on others

what kind of traffic? if you don't mind saying...

loreen · 12-12-2010, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488

between 1:25 and 1:15,000.

That.
I have few niche blogs that average a 1:20 - 1:100 ratio on constant basis (for years, now). And then there is general stuff that can go up to 0:20.000 (after which I drop the sponsor

)

djroof · 12-12-2010, 05:38 PM

hard days for porn...

loreen · 12-12-2010, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrylula

and then the blog thing blew up... I fucking hate blogs now.

I have a bunch of sites to update, and I swear I am going to nuke all the blogs I find. Just because.

Then don't update. I have blogs with 5 good written posts that gather even as much as 5k daily SE traffic. I haven't touched those for months and I don't intend to

Robbie · 12-12-2010, 05:41 PM

Piracy bringing full scenes for free everywhere has no doubt hurt our business badly.

But when it comes to just conversion averages...we have to realize that a few other things are at play as well.

In the mid to late 1990's conversions were fucking low as hell...but if you think about it, EVERYBODY that was online then had money. Computers were expensive compared to today. Relatively few knew how to use them. So it was people with decent jobs and well educated who had credit cards.

Today? Everybody has a computer and a fast internet connection. God knows for every real potential customer today we probably have 10,000 people who are either Kids, Unemployed, Poor, or No Credit Card. And none of those folks are gonna buy memberships today.

I stopped worrying about conversion ratios back around 2003. I decided that there was only one number that really mattered: Net Income.

djroof · 12-12-2010, 05:42 PM

people has their credit cards blocked...

cherrylula · 12-12-2010, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Piracy bringing full scenes for free everywhere has no doubt hurt our business badly.

But when it comes to just conversion averages...we have to realize that a few other things are at play as well.

In the mid to late 1990's conversions were fucking low as hell...but if you think about it, EVERYBODY that was online then had money. Computers were expensive compared to today. Relatively few knew how to use them. So it was people with decent jobs and well educated who had credit cards.

Today? Everybody has a computer and a fast internet connection. God knows for every real potential customer today we probably have 10,000 people who are either Kids, Unemployed, Poor, or No Credit Card. And none of those folks are gonna buy memberships today.

I stopped worrying about conversion ratios back around 2003. I decided that there was only one number that really mattered: Net Income.

I actually was just thinking this exact thing. Like how many more people in general are online, many of which are broke ass freeloaders. lol

and yeah the tube thing...

But niche will always work if you do it right. I think I need to just push the foulest thing I can find.

BIGTYMER · 12-12-2010, 05:50 PM

1:500 - 1:2000

cherrylula · 12-12-2010, 05:52 PM

I lost a handful of sites in the reality check network thing, so I am going to start over with a few things and need to figure out some new places to send traffic, long term. It's like the smoke is clearing a little for me with all the companies going under and sold the past few years. Who's left? lol

I've lost a shit-ton of sponsors!

Chris · 12-12-2010, 06:10 PM

i like to keep my guys between 1:10-1:20 on good traffic ;)

Si · 12-12-2010, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrylula

what kind of traffic? if you don't mind saying...

blog and seo mostly

direct/blind/trades/shit traffic is where the 1:10000 kicks in.

Penny24Seven · 12-12-2010, 06:16 PM

Our best site was doing better then 1:120 till a year ago, now it is at 1:250, it gets good traffic though and not very much either so that helps.

Nicky · 12-12-2010, 06:26 PM

Niche stuff still converts good. But like Robbie says It's the net income that is the important part, everything else is just numbers.

scubadiver626 · 12-12-2010, 06:30 PM

Review sites still regularly convert incredibly well. I've seen bestporn and Rabbit send 10 signups out of 100 hits before.

I've seen a 404 pusher send 100,000 a day and he's lucky to get 1.

cherrylula · 12-12-2010, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scubadiver626

Review sites still regularly convert incredibly well. I've seen bestporn and Rabbit send 10 signups out of 100 hits before.

I've seen a 404 pusher send 100,000 a day and he's lucky to get 1.

Yeah I would imagine those numbers sound about right. Hmm never thought about a review site but these days that is probably the best idea if you want to push quality sites.

I still have so many links out there to shitty old paysites still alive with crap member areas I am sure. Poor surfers. lol

john FVC · 12-12-2010, 07:21 PM

Last week our best site was doing 1:126 and all are CCBill sponsors

BIGTYMER · 12-12-2010, 07:28 PM

Why would anyone ever pay for porn when it said $1 and you ended up getting charged $140?

Brujah · 12-12-2010, 07:38 PM

It's all about the presell.

Arnox · 12-12-2010, 07:46 PM

I'm 1:3062 overall.

cooldude7 · 12-12-2010, 09:51 PM

my new sponsor converts like 1:178, and others are like hell,

tgp , 1: 3k
tube 1:15k
webcams 0:30k

sucks.

Paul Markham · 12-13-2010, 05:07 AM

In the beginning'

Very little traffic and ratios 1-200
Then traffic grew and it became 1-400
Then traffic grew and it became 1-1000
Then traffic grew and it became 1-2000

Then traffic declined and it became 1-5000

But the solution is MORE TRAFFIC. LOL

Nicky · 12-13-2010, 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooldude7

my new sponsor converts like 1:178, and others are like hell,

tgp , 1: 3k
tube 1:15k
webcams 0:30k

sucks.

I have an over-all in 2010 of 1:1217

Some are at 1:300 some at 1:2000. The ones I send most sales to are between 1:300 and 1:1000.

SpicyM · 12-13-2010, 05:44 AM

I paid for a Rapidshare account, around 10?, went to planetsuzy.org and pornbb.org ..downloaded 100 gigs of video of all kinds in a few days...

Chezter · 12-13-2010, 05:45 AM

On my blogs that has most of the traffic from SE it is 1:1000 to 1:2500 on traditional niches, micro niches are better, but getting traffic for them is not easy for me. On my tube site are ratios extremely bad, but I use it most for promoting cams, so I almost don't care.

tranza · 12-13-2010, 06:16 AM

I consider anything below 1:2000 to be good nowadays... And that's just sad.

Nick-Mindgeek · 12-13-2010, 08:55 AM

Living by the 'ratio' is the most misleading thing you can ever do.

I've seen campaigns at 1:2000 make more money than campaigns at 1:1000

Pornwolf · 12-13-2010, 09:55 AM

lol

Some folks don't seem to remember when 1:1000 was considered shit.

pornguy · 12-13-2010, 10:00 AM

I have guys with TGP's that average about 1:200 + and guys with blogs in the same area.

AzteK · 12-13-2010, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neeko

Living by the 'ratio' is the most misleading thing you can ever do.

I've seen campaigns at 1:2000 make more money than campaigns at 1:1000

What you're saying doesn't make sense to me. Unless the 1:2000 is making more per signup, maybe. Otherwise the EPC is lower. Can you explain more?

HowlingWulf · 12-13-2010, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzteK

What you're saying doesn't make sense to me. Unless the 1:2000 is making more per signup, maybe. Otherwise the EPC is lower. Can you explain more?

You figured it out all by yourself.

Si · 12-13-2010, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzteK

What you're saying doesn't make sense to me. Unless the 1:2000 is making more per signup, maybe. Otherwise the EPC is lower. Can you explain more?

or,

the 1:1000 only sent 2 sales and made $80

and the 1:2000 sent 20 sales and made $400

Roald · 12-13-2010, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzteK

What you're saying doesn't make sense to me. Unless the 1:2000 is making more per signup, maybe. Otherwise the EPC is lower. Can you explain more?

What he is saying is to look at the bottom line

PR_Glen · 12-13-2010, 10:34 AM

the overall average of every webmasters ratio would be a useless piece of information given how many different ways there are to advertise sites these days... not to mention the differences in niches and site types etc...

cherrylula · 12-13-2010, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornwolf

lol

Some folks don't seem to remember when 1:1000 was considered shit.

I know. Thank you.

that is like legend now. hah

cherrylula · 12-13-2010, 11:15 AM

It always has been the bottom line, of course. And today's complexities of niches with sites available and different traffic sources makes it impossible to have an overall average that makes any sense.

But this is a good thread, and thanks to everyone for their replies.

czarina · 12-13-2010, 11:47 AM

with exclusive content, in a niche like mine (shemale solo sites), we average about 1:800 to 1:1200. I would've been in shock with these ratios about 5 years ago, but now I consider them pretty good.

cherrylula · 12-13-2010, 03:27 PM

I wonder what things will be like in another 5-10 years. Craziness.

SomeCreep · 12-13-2010, 03:40 PM

Average, overall for the entire industry is 1:XXXX.

wehateporn · 12-13-2010, 05:15 PM

When looking at my stats, I add up all the revenue from sales/rebills over a period of time and then divide by the total numbers of clicks. I like to know how much it's worth per thousand clicks, so I then times by 1000, which can typically give me a figure such as $40.43 per 1000 clicks

My excuse is I studied Statistics at a rather high level

fatfoo · 12-13-2010, 05:18 PM

You could go with the http://www.datinggold.com $3 per free email signup program. You might see conversions like 1:50 or 1:200.

EPWebmaster · 12-13-2010, 06:05 PM

My first sale on an established milf affiliate program from a new blog I started:

1:412 Raw
1:321 Unique

Not much traffic yet but growing...

Toni · 12-14-2010, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrylula

I remember when you could make an avs and make a sale like 1:25 the same night.

I loved those times, 30 sites from one template per day with multiple entrance pages for different avs sites = tons of cash

Samantha_xox2000 · 12-14-2010, 05:46 AM

It depends on how many sales/period you are doing. People that say 1:20 probably sending 1-2 sales. If you send more than 15-20 sales in the given period, 1:300-1:500 is a very good ratio nowdays.

12-12-2010, 05:31 PM	#1
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	Average Conversions in Adult these days. I remember when sales were averaging 1:250 on tgp traffic. Today's average? I have no idea, things have changed so much. I remember when you could make an avs and make a sale like 1:25 the same night. and then google would update, the SE traffic would come, and you could get nice terms coming in real fast and sales like popcorn. fuuuuck.... with the tubes I have no idea what a decent conversion is, haven't been freshening things up enough lol

12-12-2010, 05:41 PM	#10
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,959	Piracy bringing full scenes for free everywhere has no doubt hurt our business badly. But when it comes to just conversion averages...we have to realize that a few other things are at play as well. In the mid to late 1990's conversions were fucking low as hell...but if you think about it, EVERYBODY that was online then had money. Computers were expensive compared to today. Relatively few knew how to use them. So it was people with decent jobs and well educated who had credit cards. Today? Everybody has a computer and a fast internet connection. God knows for every real potential customer today we probably have 10,000 people who are either Kids, Unemployed, Poor, or No Credit Card. And none of those folks are gonna buy memberships today. I stopped worrying about conversion ratios back around 2003. I decided that there was only one number that really mattered: Net Income. __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com Last edited by Robbie; 12-12-2010 at 05:42 PM..

12-12-2010, 06:10 PM	#15
Chris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: icq: 71462500 Skype: Jupzchris Posts: 27,880	i like to keep my guys between 1:10-1:20 on good traffic ;) __________________ [email protected]

12-12-2010, 06:16 PM	#17
Penny24Seven So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: USA Posts: 6,287	Our best site was doing better then 1:120 till a year ago, now it is at 1:250, it gets good traffic though and not very much either so that helps. __________________ Our site is coming soon. It will be one of the best ever! I know so. Brian and Penny

12-12-2010, 06:26 PM	#18
Nicky Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 30,069	Niche stuff still converts good. But like Robbie says It's the net income that is the important part, everything else is just numbers. __________________ gfynicky @ gmail.com

12-12-2010, 05:32 PM	#2
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	between 1:25 and 1:15,000.

12-12-2010, 05:33 PM	#3
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	and then the blog thing blew up... I fucking hate blogs now. I have a bunch of sites to update, and I swear I am going to nuke all the blogs I find. Just because.

12-12-2010, 05:34 PM	#5
Si Such Fun! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 13,900	1:500 - 1:1000 on my best sponsors 1:10000 on others

12-12-2010, 05:38 PM	#8
djroof JuicyDevils.gr Owner Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Greece Posts: 25,397	hard days for porn...

12-12-2010, 05:42 PM	#11
djroof JuicyDevils.gr Owner Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Greece Posts: 25,397	people has their credit cards blocked...

12-12-2010, 05:50 PM	#13
BIGTYMER Junior Achiever Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Walled Garden Posts: 17,066	1:500 - 1:2000

12-12-2010, 05:52 PM	#14
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	I lost a handful of sites in the reality check network thing, so I am going to start over with a few things and need to figure out some new places to send traffic, long term. It's like the smoke is clearing a little for me with all the companies going under and sold the past few years. Who's left? lol I've lost a shit-ton of sponsors!

12-12-2010, 06:30 PM	#19
scubadiver626 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,034	Review sites still regularly convert incredibly well. I've seen bestporn and Rabbit send 10 signups out of 100 hits before. I've seen a 404 pusher send 100,000 a day and he's lucky to get 1. __________________ AsiaMoviePass My Best Rebilling Site

12-12-2010, 07:21 PM	#21
john FVC Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 671	Last week our best site was doing 1:126 and all are CCBill sponsors __________________ Convert with your MILF & Mature traffic. CCBill 50% -60% Revshare

12-12-2010, 07:28 PM	#22
BIGTYMER Junior Achiever Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Walled Garden Posts: 17,066	Why would anyone ever pay for porn when it said $1 and you ended up getting charged $140?

12-12-2010, 07:38 PM	#23
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	It's all about the presell. __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

12-12-2010, 07:46 PM	#24
Arnox Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Radelaide Posts: 2,163	I'm 1:3062 overall. __________________ Need Text? X Copywriters \| Adult Writing Service - [email protected]

12-12-2010, 09:51 PM	#25
cooldude7 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Heaven Posts: 4,306	my new sponsor converts like 1:178, and others are like hell, tgp , 1: 3k tube 1:15k webcams 0:30k sucks.

12-13-2010, 05:07 AM	#26
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	In the beginning' Very little traffic and ratios 1-200 Then traffic grew and it became 1-400 Then traffic grew and it became 1-1000 Then traffic grew and it became 1-2000 Then traffic declined and it became 1-5000 But the solution is MORE TRAFFIC. LOL __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

12-13-2010, 05:44 AM	#28
SpicyM Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 4,558	I paid for a Rapidshare account, around 10?, went to planetsuzy.org and pornbb.org ..downloaded 100 gigs of video of all kinds in a few days...

12-13-2010, 05:45 AM	#29
Chezter Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Brno, Czech rep. Posts: 565	On my blogs that has most of the traffic from SE it is 1:1000 to 1:2500 on traditional niches, micro niches are better, but getting traffic for them is not easy for me. On my tube site are ratios extremely bad, but I use it most for promoting cams, so I almost don't care.

12-13-2010, 06:16 AM	#30
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	I consider anything below 1:2000 to be good nowadays... And that's just sad. __________________ I'm just a newbie.

12-13-2010, 08:55 AM	#31
Nick-Mindgeek Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Montreal Posts: 700	Living by the 'ratio' is the most misleading thing you can ever do. I've seen campaigns at 1:2000 make more money than campaigns at 1:1000 __________________ Senior Director nick @ Adultforce.com

12-13-2010, 09:55 AM	#32
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	lol Some folks don't seem to remember when 1:1000 was considered shit. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

12-13-2010, 10:00 AM	#33
pornguy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Homeless Posts: 62,911	I have guys with TGP's that average about 1:200 + and guys with blogs in the same area. __________________ PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online! TChicks.com \| Angeles Cid \| Mariana Cordoba \| MAILERS WELCOME!

12-13-2010, 10:34 AM	#38
PR_Glen Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 9,058	the overall average of every webmasters ratio would be a useless piece of information given how many different ways there are to advertise sites these days... not to mention the differences in niches and site types etc... __________________ webmaster at pimproll dot com

12-13-2010, 11:15 AM	#40
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	It always has been the bottom line, of course. And today's complexities of niches with sites available and different traffic sources makes it impossible to have an overall average that makes any sense. But this is a good thread, and thanks to everyone for their replies.

12-13-2010, 11:47 AM	#41
czarina Webmaster Extraordinaire Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: A beautiful beach... Posts: 10,748	with exclusive content, in a niche like mine (shemale solo sites), we average about 1:800 to 1:1200. I would've been in shock with these ratios about 5 years ago, but now I consider them pretty good.

12-13-2010, 03:27 PM	#42
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	I wonder what things will be like in another 5-10 years. Craziness.

12-13-2010, 03:40 PM	#43
SomeCreep :glugglug Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Where the Wild Things Are Posts: 26,118	Average, overall for the entire industry is 1:XXXX. __________________ Webair Hosting I use and recommend Webair for hosting.

12-13-2010, 05:15 PM	#44
wehateporn Promoting Debate on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 27,173	When looking at my stats, I add up all the revenue from sales/rebills over a period of time and then divide by the total numbers of clicks. I like to know how much it's worth per thousand clicks, so I then times by 1000, which can typically give me a figure such as $40.43 per 1000 clicks My excuse is I studied Statistics at a rather high level __________________ Sexy Girls Teasing

12-13-2010, 05:18 PM	#45
fatfoo ICQ:649699063 Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 27,763	You could go with the http://www.datinggold.com $3 per free email signup program. You might see conversions like 1:50 or 1:200. __________________ Send me an email: [email protected]

12-13-2010, 06:05 PM	#46
EPWebmaster Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 31	My first sale on an established milf affiliate program from a new blog I started: 1:412 Raw 1:321 Unique Not much traffic yet but growing... __________________ NastyDollars $35 Per Sign Up - Large amount of Sales, "My First Conversion"

12-14-2010, 05:46 AM	#48
Samantha_xox2000 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 866	It depends on how many sales/period you are doing. People that say 1:20 probably sending 1-2 sales. If you send more than 15-20 sales in the given period, 1:300-1:500 is a very good ratio nowdays. __________________ Older Women Club - Get maximum from your Granny/Mature traffic! 255 Days Cookie \| VOD \| FLVs \| CCBILL Questions? Hit me up on ICQ: 442218096