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tranza

Double post...

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tranza

I've read some people saying that such submitter relies on watermark traffic exclusively, and that you can even get your videos listed but no traffic at all.

Is that true?

Have you guys tested it before making it live? If so, how many clicks can one expect to the affiliate link per video submission using this tool?

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margarita

Is there any problem with watermark? It's not that hard to put some into video.

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u-Bob

strange decision to make the tutorial vids available in .exe form instead of embedding them. </2 cents>

tranza

If you are an affiliate, most of the videos you get will already have a watermark.

If you add a second watermark, to a domain of yours, you can even get some type-in traffic, but it won't be much.

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Paul Markham

Just what the business needs. Another automated way to add more free content to the existing mountains of free porn. How did we manage without it?

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margarita

I'm new to this, but I've replaced sponsor's watermark with mine (with prior sponsor's permission). I don't see reason why anybody would have problem with this if you are promoting video owner's sites and you are not submitting full videos. But it's too soon for me to evaluate effectivity of this.

PS spam me with CCB sponsors offering 3-5 min clips with possibility to insert my own watermark

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margarita

I doubt anybody will buy it to post full length videos to give them for free

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tranza

How many users actually take the time to type in what they see on the watermark after watching the video??

You'll be lucky to get 1 single click each 100,000 video views.

That's the issue.

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Axeman

I bought it for a month to try it out. I submitted 2 videos just to see how it would do for tubes actually using the sponsor link etc. Only one site hard sex tube sent any traffic at all via the sponsor link. And that was 31 total hits for the month so far. So yes, I would say this is relying heavily on watermarks and the hope people actually type it in, which I would imagine would be a very low ratio of views to type ins.

Also the tube submitter really requires a fast upload speed to make it remotely functional. Was impractical on my 1 up. So needless to say I canceled my subscription for the site.

Programs owners looking to get their brand out there and with a quick uplink may find value is mass uploading with the product though.

john FVC

Sounds like an utter waste of time..

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tranza

Thanks for your feedback. That's exactly what I heard elsewhere. And I guess their lack of response to my question, proves that the results are not so great.

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I just sighed up for it. I'm looking forward to getting this in place.

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tranza

For you, as a program owner, it will probably do good.

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Cherry7

If the idea of this is to upload trailers or short versions of videos to advertise the full versions on a paysite....

BUT all the tubes I seen have whole films on them, a lot of old product and poor quality sure but still whole clips.

So how is this going to convert into traffic?

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Paul&John

I was beta-testing the thing for a few weeks and was using mainly a sponsor where I was allowed to over-watermark their url and guess what, I'm still making sales from those submits.

And yes, surfers do type url's from the watermarks into the web browser.. this method has worked 2 years ago also and I had some very nice sales out from it. And who cares if there is only 1 guy who enters the site from 10k views. It's still free traffic. You aren't hosting a thing, just submitting it.

Oh and alternatively you can buy your own content, slice it up and watermark it. The possibilities are endless, just need to think a little bit.

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MasterM

probably sites like tnaflix , empflix etc. will delete your video cause they kinda demand long length vids

WiredGuy

Thanks for your comments, its always good to see a webmaster's opinion instead of just a sales pitch.
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DVTimes

i tried it.

one site rejected the clip for having my website url on the clip.

the other only allowed a small clip. i uploaded then found there was not a link to my site. and my url had a banner covering it linking to another pay site.

thanks but no thanks.

to me the tube sites should be paying us to upload, not us to pay a prog to upload your clips free with no benafit.

mabe next you could bring out a prog that would let you upload your website content to forums, or one that posts passwords to your site on forums, or even one that posts your bank details on the web.

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cooldude7

what script are those tube site using.

custom?

geirlur

I would guess 99% of them are custom

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tranza

Thanks for your input man. One thing I disagree though:

It's free only if you consider your time worth nothing. A 10Mb file, sent to 100 tubes, at 1Mbps upload speed takes 3 hours to finish. Not considering prep work and time spent loading the pages and confirming the data. Seems like too much time spent for a few clicks.

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sweetcuties

I downloaded the demo thing and I can't get my user/pass working, I emailed support.

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TheDoc

Yep... more affiliates/programs, moving traffic around is a GREAT thing for our Industry.

If the top piracy sources shared the traffic like tgp's do, you would be singing a totally different hate song.

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Paul&John

Of course, but that's not the case. Many more will write the url into the browser because they are interested in the content.. of course you won't go very far with the everyday brazzers fucky sucky content which is advertised on 90% of the tubes, but with something unique you can make cash. And the penis pill and dating banners all over those tubes won't do any harm to you because the surfer can't find your content over those sites.

It's the same as with submitting galleries, if you promote something unique you will make sales..

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Paul Markham

Don't bet money on it. The idea of loading more free sites with even more content by automating the process = Less reasons to buy.

If it use to take 1,000 to make a sale and now takes 2,000 to make a sale with no doubling of traffic. It's cost you money.

More people looking at more free content is not a GREAT thing.

If a hamburger stall, living off the ads on the burger box, started up business outside a MacDonalds. The last thing MacDonalds would do is set up an automated conveyor belt feeding the stall with free burgers.

If you have content that's street ahead of the competition you might find this works. If your content is the same old cloned stuff most of the other people in your niche have it won't be.

The reason why so people buy porn today is.

IT ISN'T WORTH BUYING AND THE FREE STUFF IS BETTER, MORE CONVENIENT AND SAFER FOR THE BUYERS.

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Paul Markham

If you're selling a product these are some things you should never do.

Give it away in such volume, free is competing with you.

Spend half the turnover on giving it away.

Believe giving it away is marketing.

Make your product no different or very little different from those competing with you.

Kid yourself "Branding" works on a crap product. It builds up expectations in the users mind that is easily destroyed.

Think advertising (marketing) is giving the product away on a continual and growing basis. So the consumer can get his daily dose for free.

Con customers in any way.

Thank God the Adult Internet didn't do any of those things. Otherwise the market wouldn't be booming. LOL

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u-Bob

weren't you one of the first to promote the idea of working with the tubes?

Paul&John

Paul, it seems like you clearly not understand, tubes are here and you will do no harm by posting 3-5 minute videos of your paysite to tubes. I bet that the majority of tube surfers didn't even heard about your paysites so by posting a few teasing videos you can get new visitors. This tool is excellent for paysite owners and it's also damn useful for affiliates if they know how to promote stuff on tubes.

And no, I don't think that you should post full length videos or that anyone should, you want to tease like in the old times..

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TheDoc

What about those that convert the tube traffic as good as they've always converted?


Did you know that it costs MD money to produce every hamburger they make, but it doesn't cost a program/content owner anything for a person to download free porn from someone else's servers? Just a fact I thought I would share... P.S. Have you seen the free MD games online, calendars, app's, coloring books, toys, play center?

Free porn drives the entire Industry and ever aspect of it. If you took it away, you would take away our global reach, attraction, leverage into new markets - the reason for people to take a quick look, etc - the reason it exploded in size.

We wouldn't have had an explosion in niches, people exploring them, self discovery, and so on. The porn 'net wouldn't have exploded by the millions and millions. People that didn't rush in to buy porn - they rushed on to 'find' porn, ie: free porn!

Free porn & affiliates IS the Adult Industries global marketing budget. If MD stopped advertising, the global exposure would drop, and sales would drop. Without question.... You take away free porn, you take out our entire industries marketing budget - sales would drop through the floor.


I know plenty of paysites that are far better than any tube site I've ever come across, not even piracy tubes compete with paysites. Convenient? Buying exactly what you want, your niche, etc isn't convenient? Of course it is. Porn is pretty damn safe to buy... like anything online it has its risks, but for the last year things have been in super check.

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TheDoc

Free competes with you if you're not on the site...

It doesn't cost paysites hardly anything to give it away - sometimes it's even free.

Freemium marketing isn't new and has worked for decades.

True, the world simply doesn't need two kinds of sliced bread.

Hustler, PB, TB, RK, very few do it at all... Probably safe to say 1% do, the rest of us ignore it like we should.

This is a form of advertising/marketing, one of many. It's not like porn companies "only" do this with the content they have.

The majority of porn buyers haven't been conned. Very few companies (like in all industries) do this.

Nothing you listed is a factor as to why the market appears down.

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Paul Markham

And theres the problem.

It used to be there's no harm in posting 10 pictures on a TGP. Then it was there was no harm in posting 15 so long as non were hardcore. Then it was OK if only 1 or 2 were hardcore. And the amount escalated in what was safe.

And the number of people escalated, so more people were giving out more free porn. And all the time ratios were getting worse.

Now it's OK if it's only 3-5 minutes. But I see sites with 6-8 minute clips. And then there's the site with full scenes. What will be the next thing to leap frog Tubes with full scenes? What ever it is you can bet it will be about giving buyers less reasons to buy and more reasons to stay on free sites.

The problem with this marketing is if you have little other real means to market your product than leap frog what others are doing you're never in front for long. Once 1 does it 100 follow, them 1,000. It's a slippery slope.

Doc I know who Hustler, are, not sure about these guys PB, TB, RK. To my knowledge Hustler don't have a crap product. Branding works for Ferrari, Rolls Royce, Bentley, and a few others. It doesn't work for Skoda or Ford especially the way we do it. To make branding work it has to portray the vision your product is above the rest. If when the buyer gets it he finds it's no different to the rest he is more disappointed because his expectations were higher.

No other company has used the free method of advertising like the adult industry has. They give away little samples, 2 for the price of 1 offers and similar. No freemium isn't new. But it's never been taken to the level of the adult Internet.

None have built a network of free samples so big it rivals the product sold. Imagine a biscuit maker giving away enough biscuits for a day outside a supermarket. The pile of free biscuits is replenished every day, there are every flavor the buyer could wish for and all the buyer has to do is fill his basket with free samples and take them home. How many packets do you think he will sell?

The economic decline is not the only reason the market is down. If you're praying it will return when the economy recovers. My advice is to save every penny you make now. Because it will get worse.

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TheDoc

Playboy, topbucks aka pinkvisual, reality kings.. other brands in our Industry. Branding works simply because they have a product large enough to reach a global market, thus they can benefit from the branding. Most of us couldn't tap into 5% of the other markets, thus it's pointless.

First, every market is unique - you can't compare ours to others, because it should be unique. Then plenty of markets survive with a free market under them. Cable tv, radio, music in general, software... and lots of other crap too.

Again, we aren't biscuit makers, it costs him to duplicate a product - it doesn't cost me anything for someone to view my video on a tube. And lots of bakeries, butchers and stores give away free samples in hopes that you buy those samples. And like us, they don't give away everything or the best parts.

Free porn doesn't rival paid porn, not at any level - not even a tiny bit.


It will get worse on what scale? Right now it has improved from what it was two years ago... I'm not expecting it to turn around, nor do I care if it ever does. I don't think anything is wrong with our Industry vs. any other Industry. Right now, during economic downturns is the largest chance of making huge money in ANY Industry, including porn.

Straight up - if you don't like the direction YOUR business is going in - then change it. Plenty more money to go around if you can't hack it on this side of the fence.

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