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Old 01-08-2011, 09:36 PM   #51
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hahaha - you walk down the street with a loaded weapon do you?

what the fuck fantasy are you living - West World?

Man, that movie was the tits when I was a kid. It really isn't the guns that need to be controlled but the people though. Criminals will always get guns. We could ban them like pot...lol.
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Old 01-08-2011, 09:51 PM   #52
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I'm very pro-firearms but imo you should be required to undergo a psychological evaluation before being able to get any sort of firearm.
Does this mean that Camgirls would not qualify?
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No I just think the current waiting period/age requirement/etc for firearms isn't enough of a deterrent for people with clear personality disorders being able to get one.
waiting period? You think there is a waiting period in all states for all guns? Guess again pal. Your idea makes a lot of sense, you seem VERY pro gun control just by your assumption that there is a waiting period in most cases.

Too bad you're not in government, we need a few more sane gun freaks who believe there needs to be gun law reform. If you were a Congressman you would be targeted with a Sarahpac gun scope on your head just like poor miss Giffords was. Of course you would stand little chance of getting elected because the pro-murder organization known as the NRA would spend any amount of money to defeat you.


If people with clear personality disorders were barred from gun ownership then 90 percent of the tea party lunatics would never be allowed guns. Certainly crazy bitches like Sally Rand could never get one.
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If people with clear personality disorders were barred from gun ownership then 90 percent of the tea party lunatics would never be allowed guns. Certainly crazy bitches like Sally Rand could never get one.
Holy shit, I agree with you. That could be a first. She is not a bitch though. She is a hehehe.
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If you knew ANYTHING about the Constitution you would know that it was designed to be MODIFIED as the TIMES CHANGED..

You think the fact that the people needed guns more than 200 years ago has ANY relevance on the society of today?
The constitution was not "designed to be modified". It has the ability to be modified. Which, by design, is difficult.

The Constitution is a "dead" document. It should be not interpreted with the "changing times"... it sets out what the government can't do. It is a set of rules to keep government in check... not the people. It does not grant rights, it ensures them.
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The constitution was not "designed to be modified". It has the ability to be modified. Which, by design, is difficult.

The Constitution is a "dead" document. It should be not interpreted with the "changing times"... it sets out what the government can't do. It is a set of rules to keep government in check... not the people. It does not grant rights, it ensures them.
You say it was not designed to be modified - then you follow that up in the very next sentence with agreeing that it was designed to be modified. Make up your mind.

The amendment process is exactly that - the INTENT that the Constitution SHOULD be modified, expanded on, clarified and interpreted as conditions require.

The right to bear arms is NOT IN THE CONSTITUTION - it is SIMPLY an amendment - NO DIFFERENT than the 18th Amendment which is the PROHIBITION of ALCOHOL.

Your silly bullshit claim that the Constitution is a dead document - or that it exists to "keep the government in check" just makes you look like you didn't graduate - from the 6th grade.
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I can't tell what's funnier, that slutboat thinks he has any of my information, or that slutboat is always the laughing stock of his insane threads.
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When you were forced to leave Maui?
more like, when the creation of the Fed was allowed to happen.

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Vendzilla -you think I'm new to this biz because I'm not a fat keyboard banger like you, and you post pics of yourself with a young girl on GFY - that was the creepiest pic I have ever seen EVER! (I wont post it here due to the GFY guidelines) I don't know what would be worse - if it was just you creeping with a teen model - or if that was your daughter and you were posting it on a porn blog.. either way damn man.. that poor poor girl.
I didn't post that pic, it was taken at a party at Rochard's house. Many Playboy employee's were in attendance.

I don't know why you have a problem with it, but I don't understand half the problems you have.

But I did notice that you side stepped the question about what you do in the business, you just throw out some cheap shots and expect to get past that. I see no website called slutboat which sounds like a rip off of Captain Stabbin.

So I ask, what do you do in the business, reply please
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How does it feel to live in fear daily that you feel the need to keep guns in your homes.
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I didn't post that pic, it was taken at a party at Rochard's house. Many Playboy employee's were in attendance.

I don't know why you have a problem with it, but I don't understand half the problems you have.

But I did notice that you side stepped the question about what you do in the business, you just throw out some cheap shots and expect to get past that. I see no website called slutboat which sounds like a rip off of Captain Stabbin.

So I ask, what do you do in the business, reply please

OK here is my reply: FUCK YOU


who exactly do you think you are you to think that you have any authority to demand an answer from me to any of your petty questions. I could embarrass you with the long list of my contributions to the adult biz and even far longer list of my achievements in mainstream since the early 80's but your history of disgusting and vile posting on GFY makes it's much more prudent and fun to tell you to fuck off instead.

So fuck off and just go back to your beloved FOX News propaganda and spewing your message of fear and hatred don't worry about what others are doing in their private business life, and stop pretending that you have some right to ask questions and demand answers as if you are a moderator instead of the fat, unimportant, ogre lookin bastard that you are.
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Guns don't kill people... People do...

I think they should ban cars as they are involved in thousands of deaths each year..
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where my gun nuts at - huh???

A 22 year old crazy kid can walk in and buy a Glock like buying a candy bar in Arizona, where are you now you "Right to Bear Arms" lunatics?

6 dead at a shopping mall including a 9 year old girl because of your throwback mentality.

do us all a favor - suck on the barrel - pull the trigger.
I should just keep my mouth shut, but...

You are a fucking idiot. I cannot stand you anti-gun nutcases. The gun doesn't make a decision to kill someone. People kill people, they will do it with or without guns.

This is like saying "A 22 year old crazy kid walks into a bar and buys a round of shots (since it is like buying candy), then gets behind the wheel of his car, and plows into a crowd of people killing many. WE NEED TO BAN ALL CARS!"

"This car dealership sold this 22 year old a car, the bar sold him some shots, and as a result he went out and killed people. We need to ban cars and alcohol from EVERYONE!"

While I don't condone any of what happened yesterday, it wasn't the gun that made the decision to kill all of those people, it was the fucking nutcase that shot them.

People killed each other far before guns ever existed. People will continue to kill people after they are banned.

Don't bother trying to tear my point of view apart because I wont be coming back to respond.

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where my gun nuts at - huh???

A 22 year old crazy kid can walk in and buy a Glock like buying a candy bar in Arizona, where are you now you "Right to Bear Arms" lunatics?

6 dead at a shopping mall including a 9 year old girl because of your throwback mentality.

do us all a favor - suck on the barrel - pull the trigger.
Look out.. the demotards are coming...the demotards are coming.. Never let a good crisis go to waste...
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If you knew ANYTHING about the Constitution you would know that it was designed to be MODIFIED as the TIMES CHANGED..

You think the fact that the people needed guns more than 200 years ago has ANY relevance on the society of today?
Yes, it has all the relevance as it did 235 yrs ago. Let me know when they ban guns so I can go rob some more banks... Or maybe go over to slutboats house and see what is there that I want to take... most likely nothing of value...
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if everyone was armed there would be more murders, that is for sure. about 10-20% of the population are fucking crazy and about to snap at any given moment despite living a 'normal' life. i am not for banning guns but you've got to make sure they don't get in the wrong hands. im personally more worried about psychos having guns than criminals. criminals generally don't want to kill anyone, they just want to intimidate. psychos do want to kill, that is their goal.
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I should just keep my mouth shut, but...

You are a fucking idiot. I cannot stand you anti-gun nutcases. The gun doesn't make a decision to kill someone. People kill people, they will do it with or without guns.

This is like saying "A 22 year old crazy kid walks into a bar and buys a round of shots (since it is like buying candy), then gets behind the wheel of his car, and plows into a crowd of people killing many. WE NEED TO BAN ALL CARS!"

"This car dealership sold this 22 year old a car, the bar sold him some shots, and as a result he went out and killed people. We need to ban cars and alcohol from EVERYONE!"

While I don't condone any of what happened yesterday, it wasn't the gun that made the decision to kill all of those people, it was the fucking nutcase that shot them.

People killed each other far before guns ever existed. People will continue to kill people after they are banned.

Don't bother trying to tear my point of view apart because I wont be coming back to respond.

a gun, or maybe crossbow is the only thing that you can really kill someone with, without even having to be anywhere near them. even if you were to poison them, you'd have to get close to something they at least use. im not for banning guns but they do make it much easier and emotionless to kill someone.
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God I love you pro gun idots that try to defend situations like this. Should we ban "saws" should we ban "cars" they all kill people. Are you idiots really that stupid?? Once again how does it feel to live in a society where you feel the need to arm yourself to feel save? I've never even seen a gun before and I feel perfectly save here.
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well here you go all you backward inbred NRA gun loving "Second Amendment Remedies" loathsome motherfuckers.

this is what you wanted right?





GUN CONTROL AND GUN BAN IN THE US NOW!
Thank god you don't earn enough to go to a show. I'd never want to be standing in the same room with such trash as yourself
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I should just keep my mouth shut, but...

You are a fucking idiot. I cannot stand you anti-gun nutcases. The gun doesn't make a decision to kill someone. People kill people, they will do it with or without guns.

This is like saying "A 22 year old crazy kid walks into a bar and buys a round of shots (since it is like buying candy), then gets behind the wheel of his car, and plows into a crowd of people killing many. WE NEED TO BAN ALL CARS!"

"This car dealership sold this 22 year old a car, the bar sold him some shots, and as a result he went out and killed people. We need to ban cars and alcohol from EVERYONE!"

While I don't condone any of what happened yesterday, it wasn't the gun that made the decision to kill all of those people, it was the fucking nutcase that shot them.

People killed each other far before guns ever existed. People will continue to kill people after they are banned.

Don't bother trying to tear my point of view apart because I wont be coming back to respond.


You call me an idiot - then you make a post that is very easily proven false.

There are very clear statistics showing that countries with the most guns have the most murders.

There are very clear statistics that show that states with the the most lax laws, easiest access to hand guns, and concealed weapons permits have the most workplace killings, and the most mass killings in public places.

There are very clear statistics that prove that far more people are killed as a result of a family member having a gun in the house, than successfully defend themselves from an intruder (something like 10 to 1).

There are very clear statistics that show that child death due to gunfire could be nearly eliminated by stricter gun control and gun safety laws. Yet the NRA spends millions on lobbyists and misinformation and false stats to deceive voters and intimidate candidates.

See here's the thing you chicken shit gun freak pussies.. there are these little things called FACTS - and hard cold STATS that make your silly arguments hold no water...

Here are a few more:

American children are more at risk from firearms than the children of any other industrialized nation. In one year, firearms killed no children in Japan, 19 in Great Britain, 57 in Germany, 109 in France, 153 in Canada, and 5,285 in the United States. (Centers for Disease Control)
Faulty records enable terrorists, illegal aliens and criminals to purchase guns. Over a two and a half-year period, at least 9,976 convicted felons and other illegal buyers in 46 states obtained guns because of inadequate records.
School Safety

• Between 1994 and 1999, there were 220 school associated violent events resulting in 253 deaths - - 74.5% of these involved firearms. Handguns caused almost 60% of these deaths. (Journal of American Medical Association, December 2001)

• In 1998-99 academic year, 3,523 students were expelled for bringing a firearm to school. (U.S. Department of Education, October 2000)

• The National School Boards Association estimates that more than 135,000 guns are brought into U.S. schools each day. (NSBA, 1993)

Children and Gun Violence
• Between 1979 and 2001, gunfire killed 90,000 children and teens in America. (Children's Defense Fund and National Center for Health Statistics)

• In one year, more children and teens died from gunfire than from cancer, pneumonia, influenza, asthma, and HIV/AIDS combined. (Children's Defense Fund)

• The rate of firearm deaths among kids under age 15 is almost 12 times higher in the United States than in 25 other industrialized countries combined. (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention)

America and Gun Violence
• Every day, more than 80 Americans die from gun violence. (Coalition to Stop Gun Violence)
• The rate of firearm deaths among kids under age 15 is almost 12 times higher in the United States than in 25 other industrialized countries combined. (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention)

• American kids are 16 times more likely to be murdered with a gun, 11 times more likely to commit suicide with a gun, and nine times more likely to die from a firearm accident than children in 25 other industrialized countries combined. (Centers for Disease Control)


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God I love you pro gun idots that try to defend situations like this. Should we ban "saws" should we ban "cars" they all kill people. Are you idiots really that stupid?? Once again how does it feel to live in a society where you feel the need to arm yourself to feel save? I've never even seen a gun before and I feel perfectly save here.
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You call me an idiot - then you make a post that is very easily proven false.

There are very clear statistics showing that countries with the most guns have the most murders.

There are very clear statistics that show that states with the the most lax laws, easiest access to hand guns, and concealed weapons permits have the most workplace killings, and the most mass killings in public places.

There are very clear statistics that prove that far more people are killed as a result of a family member having a gun in the house, than successfully defend themselves from an intruder (something like 10 to 1).

There are very clear statistics that show that child death due to gunfire could be nearly eliminated by stricter gun control and gun safety laws. Yet the NRA spends millions on lobbyists and misinformation and false stats to deceive voters and intimidate candidates.

See here's the thing you chicken shit gun freak pussies.. there are these little things called FACTS - and hard cold STATS that make your silly arguments hold no water...

Here are a few more:

American children are more at risk from firearms than the children of any other industrialized nation. In one year, firearms killed no children in Japan, 19 in Great Britain, 57 in Germany, 109 in France, 153 in Canada, and 5,285 in the United States. (Centers for Disease Control)
Faulty records enable terrorists, illegal aliens and criminals to purchase guns. Over a two and a half-year period, at least 9,976 convicted felons and other illegal buyers in 46 states obtained guns because of inadequate records.
School Safety

? Between 1994 and 1999, there were 220 school associated violent events resulting in 253 deaths - - 74.5% of these involved firearms. Handguns caused almost 60% of these deaths. (Journal of American Medical Association, December 2001)

? In 1998-99 academic year, 3,523 students were expelled for bringing a firearm to school. (U.S. Department of Education, October 2000)

? The National School Boards Association estimates that more than 135,000 guns are brought into U.S. schools each day. (NSBA, 1993)

Children and Gun Violence
? Between 1979 and 2001, gunfire killed 90,000 children and teens in America. (Children's Defense Fund and National Center for Health Statistics)

? In one year, more children and teens died from gunfire than from cancer, pneumonia, influenza, asthma, and HIV/AIDS combined. (Children's Defense Fund)

? The rate of firearm deaths among kids under age 15 is almost 12 times higher in the United States than in 25 other industrialized countries combined. (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention)

America and Gun Violence
? Every day, more than 80 Americans die from gun violence. (Coalition to Stop Gun Violence)
? The rate of firearm deaths among kids under age 15 is almost 12 times higher in the United States than in 25 other industrialized countries combined. (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention)

? American kids are 16 times more likely to be murdered with a gun, 11 times more likely to commit suicide with a gun, and nine times more likely to die from a firearm accident than children in 25 other industrialized countries combined. (Centers for Disease Control)


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Then find a new country to call your own. The principles this one was founded upon don't fit your idiot values and simplistic logic.
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God I love you pro gun idots that try to defend situations like this. Should we ban "saws" should we ban "cars" they all kill people. Are you idiots really that stupid?? Once again how does it feel to live in a society where you feel the need to arm yourself to feel save? I've never even seen a gun before and I feel perfectly save here.
It's better than the logic of you anti gun/severe gun control morons. "OH LOOK IF HE DIDNT HAVE A GUN THIS WOULDNT HAVE HAPPENED SO WE NEED TO BAN OR HEAVILY REGULATE GUNS!!!" Only you morons would blame inanimate objects instead of people.
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Then find a new country to call your own. The principles this one was founded upon don't fit your idiot values and simplistic logic.

You know 12Dicks - its pretty interesting to be me knowing that no matter what - you could never change my mind.

And also knowing that it would only take one little bullet into one of your kids for you to be firmly on my side of the issue.
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Guns don't kill people.

Bullets kill people.

Ban bullets. There's no 2nd amendment right to bullets.
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I will be the first to kill myself if they BAN guns in the US.
Kil yourself now already. You're waste of space.

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I would like to ask you this: You are walking down the street and someone pulls a gun on you armed only with your cell phone, what are you going to do, call the police?

If you do not have the right to buy a gun, you will lose in almost every situation involving a gun. You will be robbed, you will and and possibly could be killed.
You will have no way to protect yourself in an instant if you do not have RIGHT to bear arms. Call 911 right now and see how long its takes a cop to get to you.
In that time you will be dead, so please let the cops do ALL OF YOUR LIVING, never take the law into your own hands. Let them rob or kill you then call the police.

Very very smart... NOT

True human nature instincts are to SURVIVE. I will do what it takes to survive.
You need a gun because you're a pussy, you live in the ghetto and you have a small penis. I wouldn't need a a gun to kill you. A REAL man kills with his hands. So you can feel the life leave a person while you choke it out of him. Only a faggot kill from a distance. You a faggot? You like to suck cocks? You like big dicks in your ass? You like man splooge being ejaculated in your nasty rectum? The answer is obviously yes.
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You need a gun because you're a pussy, you live in the ghetto and you have a small penis. I wouldn't need a a gun to kill you. A REAL man kills with his hands. So you can feel the life leave a person while you choke it out of him. Only a faggot kill from a distance. You a faggot? You like to suck cocks? You like big dicks in your ass? You like man splooge being ejaculated in your nasty rectum? The answer is obviously yes.
Haha this is why parents teach their kids to go to school and learn to use common sense, so they don't end up like this bumbling inbred.
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Then find a new country to call your own. The principles this one was founded upon don't fit your idiot values and simplistic logic.
Hypocrite. neo-cons assholes like you want to change the 14th amendment though among others. All you FAGS care about is guns. You're a pussy. You needa gun because you're too weak to defend your pussy ass. Man up BIATCH!
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Dear woman, here in America we understand the value of an armed citizenry. Your betters don't expect you to understand or be intelligent enough to not comment upon that which you don't understand.
I'm the chick eh, I don't need a gun to defend myself, classic. I'd kick the fuck out of you on any given day that I'm sure of. Here we learn how defend ourselves. Enjoy being scared day to day and feeling the need to defend yourself with a gun you cunt.

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How does it feel to live in fear daily that you feel the need to keep guns in your homes.
The fear goes away when the guns are loaded.




But thanks anyway.
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But thanks anyway.
i prefer setting man-traps that maim and mutilate. Much more fun.
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God I love you pro gun idots that try to defend situations like this. Should we ban "saws" should we ban "cars" they all kill people. Are you idiots really that stupid?? Once again how does it feel to live in a society where you feel the need to arm yourself to feel save? I've never even seen a gun before and I feel perfectly save here.
Canada...LMFAO...
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Canada...LMFAO...
Hahaha that's actually the 2nd time you've replied to one of my posts with that comment. I see your intelligence runs deep.
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Guns don't kill people.

Bullets kill people.

Ban bullets. There's no 2nd amendment right to bullets.
I will just make my own... Nice try...
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I'm the chick eh, I don't need a gun to defend myself, classic. I'd kick the fuck out of you on any given day that I'm sure of. Here we learn how defend ourselves. Enjoy being scared day to day and feeling the need to defend yourself with a gun you cunt.
Your stupid ass is too naive and ignorant of the real world to be threatening anyone with hand to hand combat.
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Your stupid ass is too naive and ignorant of the real world to be threatening anyone with hand to hand combat.
Have we met before? Don't think so, so shut the fuck up. Thanks for your opinion however.

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You need a gun because you're a pussy, you live in the ghetto and you have a small penis. I wouldn't need a a gun to kill you. A REAL man kills with his hands. So you can feel the life leave a person while you choke it out of him. Only a faggot kill from a distance. You a faggot? You like to suck cocks? You like big dicks in your ass? You like man splooge being ejaculated in your nasty rectum? The answer is obviously yes.
Have you ever killed anyone? Let alone with your bare hands.. I prefer to kill from a distance, so I can sit back down and enjoy my coffee... I shot a person from close to 1400 meters once.. Now that felt good.. I almost came right there, instead I just finished eating my sandwich... Good times..
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Hahaha that's actually the 2nd time you've replied to one of my posts with that comment. I see your intelligence runs deep.
Your right.. you got me...!!
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OK here is my reply: FUCK YOU


who exactly do you think you are you to think that you have any authority to demand an answer from me to any of your petty questions. I could embarrass you with the long list of my contributions to the adult biz and even far longer list of my achievements in mainstream since the early 80's but your history of disgusting and vile posting on GFY makes it's much more prudent and fun to tell you to fuck off instead.

So fuck off and just go back to your beloved FOX News propaganda and spewing your message of fear and hatred don't worry about what others are doing in their private business life, and stop pretending that you have some right to ask questions and demand answers as if you are a moderator instead of the fat, unimportant, ogre lookin bastard that you are.
So what you're saying is you got nothing?
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Have we met before? Don't think so, so shut the fuck up. Thanks for your opinion however.
What are you going to do, teach me a lesson with your impressive hand to hand skills? How about I come to your house and shoot you... Would that make you want to carry a handgun?
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Have we met before? Don't think so, so shut the fuck up. Thanks for your opinion however.
Let me introduce you to Barsky - he is an Adult Friend Finder Spammer - the lowest scummiest sleazbag in Galveston Tx and an all around despicable human being. Now you kids play nice y'hear
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most people who actually are able to kill with their bare hands do not go around broadcasting it.
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The fear goes away when the guns are loaded.




But thanks anyway.
so you need a gun (loaded) to protect yourself from other people with guns. wow, thats pretty circular logic.
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