Who has used this video idea to sell a site. (Video) - GoFuckYourself.com

Paul Markham · 02-18-2011, 03:19 AM

Here's an idea for Teen, Amateur or any kind of site that can use it. Watch the video and think of how to adapt it.

When I was in the UK, yes back in the 19th Century

, I was selling videos mail order rather than send out a 10 girls sample tape with just cuts of the film, I got the girls to record this video.

Ami Going Home.

The idea was to get the girl to talk about her day doing the videos and what she did.

It worked well with girls who could talk for themselves, Ami had to be prompted. They came out different and their reactions to the day and the obvious fun they had sold their full tapes. It titillated without satisfying. Obviously with better editing you can drop in tiny little segments of what the girl is talking about.

So many sites today have tours that can be jerked off to and so many don't display the girls as people. Essential if selling Teens or Amateur. IMO.

Paul Markham · 02-18-2011, 03:38 AM

Sorry about the quality of the video. It was shot just after talkies came out.

INever · 02-18-2011, 03:56 AM

Paul, I hear you. I just watched that. Do you have more you can post? I have a project idea I've pitched once or twice and this has some kind of tangential similarity....

Paul Markham · 02-18-2011, 04:04 AM

Of course shortening our cutting out the intro with Ami getting on the vibrator is optional.

02-18-2011, 05:24 AM

That is a good idea, thanks for sharing it with us.

pornguy · 02-18-2011, 07:10 AM

How many people did it take to crank the film through back then.. who was generating the electricity??

Kool videol.

Paul Markham · 02-18-2011, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bold Venture

That is a good idea, thanks for sharing it with us.

It can be done so many ways and with the girls all talking as themselves it gives the site a different slant than just the normal meat and potatoes approach of some. I see so many tours that are just about the action and little about the personality. If that's all the site's selling why sign up. Tubes have it in truck loads.

Also by keeping it soft it's a great way to get exposure on Youtube. Girls do Twitter, well how about a live video of what they say on Twitter. Could be a solo girl site or a multi girl site.

I couldn't do this being in Czech and the girls not speaking English or not well enough. Also video wasn't our focus. If I was running a site in the US, AU, UK or any English speaking country I would be doing this with every girl.

Even the ones that screw it up have an attraction to them, gets the guys sympathy. When shooting if the girl was lost for words and use to say "Cut" I shook my head to indicate "No". Made great footage and the buyers loved it.

The worse thing is if all girls start to sound the same like plastic cut outs.

The requirements are. The girl has to speak English, has to have had a good time and to speak "Real". Shooters who try to squeeze everything into as short a time as possible or overwork the girl, need not try it.

Paul Markham · 02-18-2011, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

How many people did it take to crank the film through back then.. who was generating the electricity??

Kool videol.

It worked by a clockwork mechanism and now on sale at a well know auction house.

02-18-2011, 07:41 AM

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Jim_Gunn · 02-18-2011, 08:43 AM

Paul, you may be the oldest person on the board but even you weren't around in the 19th Century, lol.

Django · 02-18-2011, 09:53 AM

This stuff is just perfect for a vintage site. I have many domains related cause I love this niche, now I know you have it. I'll think about it. Very nice sample

Paul Markham · 02-18-2011, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

Paul, you may be the oldest person on the board but even you weren't around in the 19th Century, lol.

Not if you read some of the posts about me.

Agent 488 · 02-18-2011, 10:19 AM

go scan through a tube. there must be hundreds of videos that do the same thing.

no aim not going to do your work for you, go investigate yourself, you have plenty of time.

Paul Markham · 02-18-2011, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

go scan through a tube. there must be hundreds of videos that do the same thing.

no aim not going to do your work for you, go investigate yourself, you have plenty of time.

So I did just that on Youtube and found these

Good girl but not quite right. She has actually done a lot and got a following.

Looked on Pornhub and found nothing like it.

The idea is also to put it on a tour to help conversions. Differnet makes people take notice.

Others think it's a good idea. So maybe you're wrong.

Paul Markham · 02-18-2011, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by INever

Paul, I hear you. I just watched that. Do you have more you can post? I have a project idea I've pitched once or twice and this has some kind of tangential similarity....

Shot loads olie this, not all as good as Ami, Alex was the best. Will see if I have something of her. Only used it on the Sample Tapes I sold via adverts and my mailing lists. They would sell in their 1,000s at $8 a time. Never got those edited.

If you want to chat with me about it hit me up on Skype or ICQ. See sig.

Caligari · 02-18-2011, 11:12 AM

Good video, and it was titillating just enough.

This is on the astral blue site which is all british girls from 80's and 90's?

How much of the site would you say is 80's?

Paul Markham · 02-18-2011, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by INever

Paul, I hear you. I just watched that. Do you have more you can post? I have a project idea I've pitched once or twice and this has some kind of tangential similarity....

Had a look on the server and though I didn't find anything like the first one I found these.

They were shot as the intro to the video, to get the girl to stand out from the others I shot and get her talking. Customers loved it when they talk and encourage them to join in. These were edited to put on soft Tube sites. Before we saw how many members loved them and decided to start Astral Blue.

Salim, cheeky thing.

Fleur, cute and sophisticated at the same time.

Fleur with a bit more confidence..

Joana Birch Jones could nail these all day long.

I hope the sound is right, they sound like they're on Helium off my server. LOL

The idea was to bring each girl over in her own personality.

Paul Markham · 02-18-2011, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Caligari

Good video, and it was titillating just enough.

This is on the astral blue site which is all british girls from 80's and 90's?

How much of the site would you say is 80's?

10% is from the 80s. Stopped shooting videos for mail order in 96. In the UK a video had to be licensed and mine would never get a license in those days, they showed pussy and masturbating. So moved over to full time set shooting.

As I said never really got into shooting video here in Czech as it didn't pay as well as sets.

borked · 02-18-2011, 12:04 PM

current tours are boring as hell - they only set themselves apart by graphic design.
I reckon this a great idea bruoght back from the past to re-inject some air into the current solo-girl site's sales

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Paul Markham · 02-18-2011, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by borked

current tours are boring as hell - they only set themselves apart by graphic design.
I reckon this a great idea bruoght back from the past to re-inject some air into the current solo-girl site's sales

.....

It can work beyond that. How about 2 girls discussing and describing their first lesbian experience. 10 minutes after they did it.

IMO showing a 20 second clip of a girl or girls in the middle of the scene is what everyone does. They lack personality and individuality because once you get to the action it's just the same old stuff time after time. The only thing that makes it worth spending money on is the knowledge she's a real person. For multi or solo girl sites, lesbian or solo I think it will add something that will make the viewer sit up and take notice. Which is half the battle today.

We sell to an audience with a jaded palette.

These were just the end of her scenes. Be honest who doesn't want to see what and how she got into that state. What a great time she had?

http://www.paulmarkham.com/temp/alex_10.wmv

http://www.paulmarkham.com/temp/alex_09.wmv

Paul Markham · 02-19-2011, 04:09 AM

This is what I see.

Site owners spending $3,000 on a tour is the norm. Some spend more some spend less.

Spending $3,000 to promote the site with banners on boards isn't exactly unknown.

Spending a small fortune to throw traffic at it is normal.

Spending money, time thought on what to put on the tour is the exception. In most cases they take the existing content and chop it up into small samples to put on the tour. Some deliver enough to get the surfer off, some deliver enough to show the site is the same as 100 other sites.

VERY very few spend money to get something on the tour to convert. Other than a fancy design.

Site owners, when was the last time you shot content purely for the tour?

02-18-2011, 03:19 AM	#1
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Who has used this video idea to sell a site. (Video) Here's an idea for Teen, Amateur or any kind of site that can use it. Watch the video and think of how to adapt it. When I was in the UK, yes back in the 19th Century , I was selling videos mail order rather than send out a 10 girls sample tape with just cuts of the film, I got the girls to record this video. Ami Going Home. The idea was to get the girl to talk about her day doing the videos and what she did. It worked well with girls who could talk for themselves, Ami had to be prompted. They came out different and their reactions to the day and the obvious fun they had sold their full tapes. It titillated without satisfying. Obviously with better editing you can drop in tiny little segments of what the girl is talking about. So many sites today have tours that can be jerked off to and so many don't display the girls as people. Essential if selling Teens or Amateur. IMO. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

02-18-2011, 03:38 AM	#2
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Sorry about the quality of the video. It was shot just after talkies came out. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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INever Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: .......in a niche, in orbit...... Posts: 3,484	Paul, I hear you. I just watched that. Do you have more you can post? I have a project idea I've pitched once or twice and this has some kind of tangential similarity.... Last edited by INever; 02-18-2011 at 04:10 AM..

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02-19-2011, 04:09 AM	#21
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	This is what I see. Site owners spending $3,000 on a tour is the norm. Some spend more some spend less. Spending $3,000 to promote the site with banners on boards isn't exactly unknown. Spending a small fortune to throw traffic at it is normal. Spending money, time thought on what to put on the tour is the exception. In most cases they take the existing content and chop it up into small samples to put on the tour. Some deliver enough to get the surfer off, some deliver enough to show the site is the same as 100 other sites. VERY very few spend money to get something on the tour to convert. Other than a fancy design. Site owners, when was the last time you shot content purely for the tour? __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70