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munki · 03-01-2011, 04:17 PM

fiddy suit case pimps

Buff · 03-01-2011, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

it's very simple

grow balls and tell the whore prior to her even coming...

this is a closed set leave your suitcase pimp at home or don;t show up

It's amazing how little respect content shooters have for the women they're shooting. They look at them as dirty pieces of shit. Unbelievable. These women are the basis of your very livelihood and you act as if they're not even human beings.

DWB · 03-01-2011, 04:33 PM

Willing to take 3 raw herpes infected cocks up her ass but needs an escort.

Kind of funny really.

V_RocKs · 03-01-2011, 04:50 PM

ADG for prez.

Paul Markham · 03-01-2011, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by HD Content

Yes, these girls are now starting to run the show. They demand extreme high pay and they demand that they bring an escort.

I just received and email from a girl who is demanding 3000 for a simple solo shoot.
Below is her email:

***How are you doing i just got your email sorry but i have been real busy. I do nude shoots and my however i do charge $ 3000 a shoot. If you want to see my work and my ratings check out twistys.com or digitaldesires.com. Or you can check out the shoots i have done for playboy magazine and my newest shoot coming out in may 2011 hustler cover and centerfold. Please let me know what you think. thanks***

What the fuck? Twisty and Digitaldesire paying models $3k per shoot now for solo?
If so no wonder it is extremely hard to get models now.

1. No escorts
2. Stop paying these whores outrageous rates!
3. Ban Charlie Sheen from paying these whores 30k as well!

seriously these girls are out of their minds now days.

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Originally Posted by Far-L

Mark Arnold aka Ed Powers once told me that he intentionally paid the girls higher rates realizing full well that it would completely jade her from working with others either completely, or at least long enough for him to enjoy a semi exclusive release with her... and during the heydey of his success that made him far more than what it cost him.

You answered it before me. When we came here to Czech we did exactly the same and all the tight, broke shooters who couldn't compete had to suck it up.

It's not Twistys or Digital Desires job to allow you to compete with them. The "Bro" shit stops at the till.

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Willing to take 3 raw herpes infected cocks up her ass but needs an escort.

Kind of funny really.

My thoughts entirely.

Jon Oso · 03-01-2011, 06:02 PM

I've told the girls the same thing over and over. I'm more than willing to meet anyone you need me to before the shoot and if you're not comfortable with me that's fine... but I'm not about to have shoulder-tappers and extra noise on an otherwise drama-free and professional set.

I've had boyfriends or "security" come on set before shooting began to talk to me again and I always tell them (again) that it's a closed set and they can wait in the car or go get food or something, but they aren't waiting inside as it distracts the models and frankly makes me uncomfortable. I don't want someone standing over my shoulder while I've got camera lens 6" from some girls twat.

JP-pornshooter · 03-01-2011, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Willing to take 3 raw herpes infected cocks up her ass but needs an escort.

Kind of funny really.

lets be honest for a minute..

nude modeling, ok this is far from taking 3 raw cocks.
and thus understandable that they are not as comfortable being alone with a pornographer who will try to convince her to do stuff she is not there to do or willing to do..

and for the record the girl in PA who was killed if i am not mistaken was not a "porn" shooter, it was a bonding/bdsm gig.. those guys have a really bad rep, for them its not about sex and loving feelings, its all about physical control.

HD Content · 03-01-2011, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

I allow models/performers to bring someone with them to any of my projects if it makes them feel more comfortable.

I do this in part because I have heard too many stories from models about creepy photographers that only want to get girls alone to see how much they (the photographer) can get away with groping the model, asking them to go beyond their limits, or even propositioning them for sex.

My sets generally have a small crew of people consisting of a Make-Up Artist, 1-2 Production Assistants, a Still Photographer (doubles on video), and Videographer (moi). For hardcore shoots, I generally add another video shooter.

If you look at most mainstream productions, and the better adult productions, they all have a good sized crew. Some even have audiences.

Granted, I do not shoot extreme content (no anal, etc), and I never intend to shoot anything outside what we have already discussed during the storyboard/scenario review.

Most often lately, girls will bring another girl to the shoot. Sometimes I end up with a new model (lol). When they bring a guy, it's generally a friend, and not significant other. Even when it has been a BF or hubby, I have never had a major problem. I've even had a few BFs become PA's.

When there are girl escorts, quite often they help out with wardrobe/make-up. I sometimes put the guys to work manning a camera on a tripod.

I've been shooting professionally for over ten years, and I figured out how to deal with model escorts early on. First, you try to get a quick sense about the relationship and the personalities. Either put them at ease (I provide food and non-alcoholic beverages), or take charge and direct - where they will be sitting (out of the line of the sight of the model), when they can speak, etc.

Frequently, as we are doing the paperwork, either the model or escort will ask where the escort can wait, since often they do not wish to watch, but merely came by because the person needed a ride, or to ensure the environment seemed safe.

As for hardcore, most of the girls whom I hire are already in the industry, and they no longer have escort issues. Those that aren't generally work with their BF/hubby or are fine working with someone that is tested, once they are clear on exactly what we will be shooting.

The simple fact is, this is not flipping burgers. When a BF/hubby/father drops their girl off at Mickey D's for a shit, they are not expecting that she will be throat-gagged/spit-on/sodomized, etc. Not all jobs are the same.

Unfortunately, there are some in this industry that have misogynistic attitudes, and their business is built around degrading girls. It is obvious why they would want unescorted girls.

What content producers need to do is quit lying to, trying to trick, and stop abusing girls, and maybe more girls will want to be in this industry.

ADG

You are a complete idiot. Captain Save a Ho king here everybody.

Us real content shooters do not trick the models into anything.
She is told every bit of what is expected before she arrives to the shoot.
BG sex, solo masturbation, ect. and if she is doing porn, she is a whore nothing more nothing less. This NOT abuse by any means. If she came to stick HUGE toys up her pussy or asshole I am sure she will take more money for some dick just as well on or off camera.
That is not abuse you idiot.

"Hey sweety here is $300 more for sex if you are interested" how is that abuse?
It is purely business as well. The only difference is cameras are involved with porn.

HD Content · 03-01-2011, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Buff

It's amazing how little respect content shooters have for the women they're shooting. They look at them as dirty pieces of shit. Unbelievable. These women are the basis of your very livelihood and you act as if they're not even human beings.

I would agree with you if the models had respect for themselves and you the shooter. But the truth is they do not have any respect for anyone.

These girls are dumb low with very IQ's and are having sex for money. Bottom line.
Even well known solo models who do not do BG on video they are escorts selling their pussy to random men off camera.
They fuck 5 to 6 different men everyday they are hooking. Yeah they deserve a lot of respect.. LOL ha ha ha

The models talk shit about this shooter or that shooter... bla bla bla.
One day this shooter is great, then she will hate that shooter another day.
Theses are facts people. PORN WHORES need to learn respect before they get respect.

DWB · 03-01-2011, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JP-pornshooter

lets be honest for a minute..

nude modeling, ok this is far from taking 3 raw cocks.
and thus understandable that they are not as comfortable being alone with a pornographer who will try to convince her to do stuff she is not there to do or willing to do..

and for the record the girl in PA who was killed if i am not mistaken was not a "porn" shooter, it was a bonding/bdsm gig.. those guys have a really bad rep, for them its not about sex and loving feelings, its all about physical control.

I can somewhat understand if it's a MODEL who is coming for a nude photo shoot or something PG. She may be new, she may be afraid of perverts, and there is no shortage of people who may try to take advantage of her. So for this, I do understand some sort of an escort, though a female is always better than a boyfriend.

However, when it comes to girls who are coming to FUCK... leave your escort in the car or go find another line of work. You don't bring your pimp into the hotel room when you're turning tricks, so don't bring him onto the set when you're shooting.

davecummings · 03-01-2011, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by billywatson

They never perform the same in front of their "escort" as when he's not there...in other words, they're tame in front of their dude. You never get a good scene with their escort present.

The above seems like an important consideration.

NemesisEnforcer · 03-01-2011, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buff

It's amazing how little respect content shooters have for the women they're shooting. They look at them as dirty pieces of shit. Unbelievable. These women are the basis of your very livelihood and you act as if they're not even human beings.

Respect must be earned.

DirtyDanza · 03-01-2011, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JP-pornshooter

i think both ADG and Far-L have valid points, and i know that every producer have a shoot go bad in one way or another so for danza to say every girl he ever shot have wanted to come back to shoot again, we know it smells a little but ok generally speaking probably.
pretty sure Far-L probably also sent a couple boyfriends away when he was banging girls down in san diego.

yeah not every single one... but more often than not know what I mean ....

ive never had one mad enough to go bashing me around and all that shit was my point im making

DirtyDanza · 03-01-2011, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buff

It's amazing how little respect content shooters have for the women they're shooting. They look at them as dirty pieces of shit. Unbelievable. These women are the basis of your very livelihood and you act as if they're not even human beings.

are you out of your fucking mind?

seriously

are you out of your fucking mind....

you say respect are you a content shooter?

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 03-01-2011, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Content

You are a complete idiot. Captain Save a Ho king here everybody.

Us real content shooters do not trick the models into anything.
She is told every bit of what is expected before she arrives to the shoot.
BG sex, solo masturbation, ect. and if she is doing porn, she is a whore nothing more nothing less. This NOT abuse by any means. If she came to stick HUGE toys up her pussy or asshole I am sure she will take more money for some dick just as well on or off camera.
That is not abuse you idiot.

"Hey sweety here is $300 more for sex if you are interested" how is that abuse?
It is purely business as well. The only difference is cameras are involved with porn.

You call me a complete idiot, and then claim to speak for "us real content shooters", huh? Really???

Let's see...

YOU: Use a Yahoo e-mail addy.

ME: Get my e-mail through my web sites.

YOU: No signature.

ME: Signature shows address of one of my sites which is over eight years old (I've been shooting professionally for over a decade)

YOU: Posted photos and a boring video of one girl (a newcomer named Tawni) linked to a web site named bangingmodels.com, which is not even operational.

ME: Posted photos of many of the hundreds of models whom I have worked with from several of my web sites. I've shot hundreds of models and easily over a thousand scenes, working with fresh face amateurs, to Playboy models, to top porn stars.

So, please list one of your established websites.

Wait, aren't you the guy who in January started threads asking about what kind of camera/lens to buy for shooting POV, and in other threads was trying to find an affiliate manager, and a billing program? Sounds like you really know the biz...

BTW, what's the name/URL of your affiliate program?

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Yeah, I'm Capt Save-A-Ho, LOL!

This thread is about content producers allowing models/performers to bring someone with them on set to a shoot. Danza and others do not allow people on set. Others, like myself, do. Since only one perspective was being presented, I simply tried to show another viewpoint.

I was not attacking Danza's right to shoot the kind of content that he shoots, and I wsn't even speaking about him specifically when I made my statement about why I do permit models to bring someone with them to shoots.

Hell, Danza and I have met, and we've exchanged posts on GFY for years. I even invited him and his wife to be my guests at the Exotic Erotic Ball.

It does not appear that Danza and I have worked with any of the same models, although it is possible (I shoot almoist exclusively in the Asian niche, while he shoots all ethnicities, and mostly white girls from wehat I can tell - also, while I shoot hardcore, I do not shoot extreme hardcore, like Danza does).

DWB, I consider one of my best board buddies (I've also met him in person), and while I may not like some of the stuff he shoots (I'm not into gay or tranny stuff), just as with Danza's content, if I don't like it, I don't look at it.

Basically, I support the rights of consenting adults to shoot adult content of other consenting adults having sex, and exploring whatever legal fetishes they wish to, as disturbing and bizarre as they may seem to me, again as long as it is deemed legal, and does not harm anyone else.

Personally, I love women, I respect them. and I abhor misogyny and abuse of all people.

That's a whole different topic.

Anyway HD Content, since you claim to be an established content shooter, please share with everyone exactly who you are already in the industry, since threads you have started on GFY suggest that you are pretty much a newbie, alll the way down to your blowhard know-it-all attitude.

List of HD Content operated adult websites (Name/URL) or DVD titles:

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.

<crickets>

ADG

SteveHardeman · 03-01-2011, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

Porn should be shot on a closed set...

Closed set 2011 = Motel 6 hotel room(bottom floor so you don't have to lug the shop lights up a set of stairs), with the deadbolt locked, bought using a AAA discount even though you don't really have a AAA card but you know they won't check.

Jim_Gunn · 03-01-2011, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveHardeman

Closed set 2011 = Motel 6 hotel room(bottom floor so you don't have to lug the shop lights up a set of stairs), with the deadbolt locked, bought using a AAA discount even though you don't really have a AAA card but you know they won't check.

LOL, guess you have to start somewhere!

HD Content · 03-01-2011, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

You call me a complete idiot, and then claim to speak for "us real content shooters", huh? Really???

Let's see...

YOU: Use a Yahoo e-mail addy.

ME: Get my e-mail through my web sites.

YOU: No signature.

ME: Signature shows address of one of my sites which is over eight years old (I've been shooting professionally for over a decade)

YOU: Posted photos and a boring video of one girl (a newcomer named Tawni) linked to a web site named bangingmodels.com, which is not even operational.

ME: Posted photos of many of the hundreds of models whom I have worked with from several of my web sites. I've shot hundreds of models and easily over a thousand scenes, working with fresh face amateurs, to Playboy models, to top porn stars.

So, please list one of your established websites.

Wait, aren't you the guy who in January started threads asking about what kind of camera/lens to buy for shooting POV, and in other threads was trying to find an affiliate manager, and a billing program? Sounds like you really know the biz...

BTW, what's the name/URL of your affiliate program?

-----

Yeah, I'm Capt Save-A-Ho, LOL!

This thread is about content producers allowing models/performers to bring someone with them on set to a shoot. Danza and others do not allow people on set. Others, like myself, do. Since only one perspective was being presented, I simply tried to show another viewpoint.

I was not attacking Danza's right to shoot the kind of content that he shoots, and I wsn't even speaking about him specifically when I made my statement about why I do permit models to bring someone with them to shoots.

Hell, Danza and I have met, and we've exchanged posts on GFY for years. I even invited him and his wife to be my guests at the Exotic Erotic Ball.

It does not appear that Danza and I have worked with any of the same models, although it is possible (I shoot almoist exclusively in the Asian niche, while he shoots all ethnicities, and mostly white girls from wehat I can tell - also, while I shoot hardcore, I do not shoot extreme hardcore, like Danza does).

DWB, I consider one of my best board buddies (I've also met him in person), and while I may not like some of the stuff he shoots (I'm not into gay or tranny stuff), just as with Danza's content, if I don't like it, I don't look at it.

Basically, I support the rights of consenting adults to shoot adult content of other consenting adults having sex, and exploring whatever legal fetishes they wish to, as disturbing and bizarre as they may seem to me, again as long as it is deemed legal, and does not harm anyone else.

Personally, I love women, I respect them. and I abhor misogyny and abuse of all people.

That's a whole different topic.

Anyway HD Content, since you claim to be an established content shooter, please share with everyone exactly who you are already in the industry, since threads you have started on GFY suggest that you are pretty much a newbie, alll the way down to your blowhard know-it-all attitude.

List of HD Content operated adult websites (Name/URL) or DVD titles:

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.

<crickets>

ADG

All I can say is you have absolutely no life, you posted my past GFY postings in relation.
You obsess with other shooters, I looked you up as well.

You are a complete idiot and that is all there is to it.

I will not prove anything to you. You can blow me

I DO NOT ALLOW ESCORTS ON MY SETS ANS "YES" I FUCK THE MODELS - Oh, and I pay them to leave. What now, bitch?

jaYMan · 03-01-2011, 09:55 PM

No disagreements here.

At all.

DirtyDanza · 03-01-2011, 10:47 PM

for the record I did not take your post personal I took it as you said a 2nd view point.... I got nothing but love for adg

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

You call me a complete idiot, and then claim to speak for "us real content shooters", huh? Really???

Let's see...

YOU: Use a Yahoo e-mail addy.

ME: Get my e-mail through my web sites.

YOU: No signature.

ME: Signature shows address of one of my sites which is over eight years old (I've been shooting professionally for over a decade)

YOU: Posted photos and a boring video of one girl (a newcomer named Tawni) linked to a web site named bangingmodels.com, which is not even operational.

ME: Posted photos of many of the hundreds of models whom I have worked with from several of my web sites. I've shot hundreds of models and easily over a thousand scenes, working with fresh face amateurs, to Playboy models, to top porn stars.

So, please list one of your established websites.

Wait, aren't you the guy who in January started threads asking about what kind of camera/lens to buy for shooting POV, and in other threads was trying to find an affiliate manager, and a billing program? Sounds like you really know the biz...

BTW, what's the name/URL of your affiliate program?

-----

Yeah, I'm Capt Save-A-Ho, LOL!

This thread is about content producers allowing models/performers to bring someone with them on set to a shoot. Danza and others do not allow people on set. Others, like myself, do. Since only one perspective was being presented, I simply tried to show another viewpoint.

I was not attacking Danza's right to shoot the kind of content that he shoots, and I wsn't even speaking about him specifically when I made my statement about why I do permit models to bring someone with them to shoots.

Hell, Danza and I have met, and we've exchanged posts on GFY for years. I even invited him and his wife to be my guests at the Exotic Erotic Ball.

It does not appear that Danza and I have worked with any of the same models, although it is possible (I shoot almoist exclusively in the Asian niche, while he shoots all ethnicities, and mostly white girls from wehat I can tell - also, while I shoot hardcore, I do not shoot extreme hardcore, like Danza does).

DWB, I consider one of my best board buddies (I've also met him in person), and while I may not like some of the stuff he shoots (I'm not into gay or tranny stuff), just as with Danza's content, if I don't like it, I don't look at it.

Basically, I support the rights of consenting adults to shoot adult content of other consenting adults having sex, and exploring whatever legal fetishes they wish to, as disturbing and bizarre as they may seem to me, again as long as it is deemed legal, and does not harm anyone else.

Personally, I love women, I respect them. and I abhor misogyny and abuse of all people.

That's a whole different topic.

Anyway HD Content, since you claim to be an established content shooter, please share with everyone exactly who you are already in the industry, since threads you have started on GFY suggest that you are pretty much a newbie, alll the way down to your blowhard know-it-all attitude.

List of HD Content operated adult websites (Name/URL) or DVD titles:

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.

<crickets>

ADG

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 03-01-2011, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Content

All I can say is you have absolutely no life, you posted my past GFY postings in relation.
You obsess with other shooters, I looked you up as well.

You are a complete idiot and that is all there is to it.

I will not prove anything to you. You can blow me

I DO NOT ALLOW ESCORTS ON MY SETS ANS "YES" I FUCK THE MODELS - Oh, and I pay them to leave. What now, bitch?

Nice rant (not)

Actually, almost precisely the response I predicted.

You are yet another, among a long procession of self-proclaimed content producers who suddenly show up on GFY, that is afraid to post where people can actually see their work - well, that's if you are really a content producer, instead of the wannabe that you are coming across as.

The ones like this all see to flame out after a short amount of time, once they realize the work, equipment, and skills that it takes to be successful, and not just shoot nice pictures. Most of that type go back to being MM/OMP stalkers conning girls, which is what I suspect you might be based upon the attitude displayed on your post above (you're not related to Eddie Coates, are you?).

I thought the idea was to let other people see your work so that you could sell more of it, but no, your strategy of anonymity and expecting people to stumble across your work, while alienating people on a forum, makes much more sense.

Your witty comments alone are enough to attract prospective buyers, lol.

The "real content producers" in this thread whom I know (and I know almost all of them but you) are all easy to reach, and are either generally happy to point to their sites/work, or their work is already well-known.

I think I have actually met in person more than half of the real content producers in this thread, and almost all of the others I am on good terms with, or banter with on GFY. I'm also aware of who my detractors are and what they have to say, since we share mutual friends or work with some of the same people.

Anyway, good luck with your website/content business, I mean that is if you really have one.

ADG

HD Content · 03-02-2011, 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Nice rant (not)

Actually, almost precisely the response I predicted.

You are yet another, among a long procession of self-proclaimed content producers who suddenly show up on GFY, that is afraid to post where people can actually see their work - well, that's if you are really a content producer, instead of the wannabe that you are coming across as.

The ones like this all see to flame out after a short amount of time, once they realize the work, equipment, and skills that it takes to be successful, and not just shoot nice pictures. Most of that type go back to being MM/OMP stalkers conning girls, which is what I suspect you might be based upon the attitude displayed on your post above (you're not related to Eddie Coates, are you?).

I thought the idea was to let other people see your work so that you could sell more of it, but no, your strategy of anonymity and expecting people to stumble across your work, while alienating people on a forum, makes much more sense.

Your witty comments alone are enough to attract prospective buyers, lol.

The "real content producers" in this thread whom I know (and I know almost all of them but you) are all easy to reach, and are either generally happy to point to their sites/work, or their work is already well-known.

I think I have actually met in person more than half of the real content producers in this thread, and almost all of the others I am on good terms with, or banter with on GFY. I'm also aware of who my detractors are and what they have to say, since we share mutual friends or work with some of the same people.

Anyway, good luck with your website/content business, I mean that is if you really have one.

ADG

Again you are a complete idiot. That is ok I do not expect anything less from you.

You bring up another persons name in this. What do you have against this Eddie exactly?
What has he done to you personally?

Grapesoda · 03-02-2011, 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

little bit....

just fucking e-argued with this fucking whore over bringing "an escort/assistant" on a set blah blah......

got me thinking she only thinks it's OK cause other producers let her do it.. WTF is wrong with these guys......

I mean this is a job right?

were all arguing more and more wanting it to be accepted .. legal on all aspects .. etc etc right?

then why are producers still allowing this behavior?

ive said it before I'll say it again... union the shit out of it..

I agree actually

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