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DVTimes · 03-22-2011, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

I have affiliates that promote my network via blogs and creative sites, and I have some that promote via tubes.

The non-tube affiliates sell rings around the idiotic tube site promotions!

Tube sites are where surfers go for FREE PORN!

Tubes DO NOT convert in any way that makes a lick of sense....

i would have thought that.

though i do suspect they do great sales for dating sites.

you go watch for free then think cool i am horney and want a date.

tubes de-value your content.

even the legit tube sites have enough content on them from a site to not make you want to join.

most sites offer 3 mins free sample for tube sites. well i only need 1 min and thats enogh for me.

Welshmorph · 03-22-2011, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes

to be honest i use a good security system.

these days i think if a site is secure it makes it harder to hack a site.

even if you hacked a site, often it will detent its coming from a different location and auto block you.

but again as i said online its not easy. and as you say there are problems. plus the problem thaty people may be ablel to access all the customers details.

so yes your correct to say online is a pain.

this is why i said burning to blu-ray cuts out all the problems.

in other words your surporting the logic of selling via blu-ray over online content.

I don't mean your site personally. You said if site owners inserted members names & address in to the content then the content wouldn't be uploaded to tubes etc. But lets say you had a membership to Killergram and I hacked your password to Killergram and posted content on tubes, Killergram would finger you as the one who did it because it came from your user/pass.

Morph

TheDA · 03-22-2011, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes

even the legit tube sites have enough content on them from a site to not make you want to join.

But don't you want to join for the higher quality versions? Isn't that effectively what you said before?

DVTimes · 03-22-2011, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDA

All easily overcome with automation I'm afraid.

i am not sure.

plus your presuming most pirates are techno savy sat with all the softwear in the world.

most i suspect are just average people who 'presume' its ok to upload your content.

i suspect most would not have the ability to do the most basic vid editing, nore mind any clever stuff.

sure it still leaves a small amount who could. but at least it reduces the amount a lot.

DVTimes · 03-22-2011, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDA

But don't you ant to join for the higher quality versions? Isn't that effectively what you said before?

i am not sure what you mean.

PornMD · 03-22-2011, 09:56 AM

Meh - you'd have to make the content reach out and suck the guy's dick to be good enough for them to wait weeks vs. seconds on a tube for non-exclusive content.

DVTimes · 03-22-2011, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Welshmorph

I don't mean your site personally. You said if site owners inserted members names & address in to the content then the content wouldn't be uploaded to tubes etc. But lets say you had a membership to Killergram and I hacked your password to Killergram and posted content on tubes, Killergram would finger you as the one who did it because it came from your user/pass.

Morph

sorry

i did understand what you meant.

and i was agreeing with you.

online it is a pain to do as you saaid for that reason as well as others.

if it could be done it would be great. but online i think its a right pain in the bottom to do. and so i suspect it will not be done.

however blu-ray has non ov those problems, unless of couse you send the disc to the wrong person. then you have a problem. or perhaps the disc is intersepted in the post (as in stolen).

DVTimes · 03-22-2011, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by PornMD

Meh - you'd have to make the content reach out and suck the guy's dick to be good enough for them to wait weeks vs. seconds on a tube for non-exclusive content.

yes your right.

however my point is online membership per month v's monthy membership to a film.

now at least with my methods in theory your content is less likly to be on tubes.

so say your nich is girls wearing carrots on there heads. your unlikly to find that on a tube site. so if thats what they want they should sign up.

one big plus is that i would sugest that my method credit card payments are less likly to be declined mainly as you have a rwal address and so less likley the credit card will be stolen.

TheDA · 03-22-2011, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes

i am not sure.

plus your presuming most pirates are techno savy sat with all the softwear in the world.

most i suspect are just average people who 'presume' its ok to upload your content.

i suspect most would not have the ability to do the most basic vid editing, nore mind any clever stuff.

sure it still leaves a small amount who could. but at least it reduces the amount a lot.

No, I agree, most aren't techno savvy. But I'd say there are enough to defeat the measures put in place, to the same degree as they are doing now with the current online and offline stuff!

TheDA · 03-22-2011, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes

i am not sure what you mean.

I thought you were saying before that the higher quality stuff would sell because it was higher quality, not because of quantity. Or did I get that wrong?

DVTimes · 03-22-2011, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDA

No, I agree, most aren't techno savvy. But I'd say there are enough to defeat the measures put in place, to the same degree as they are doing now with the current online and offline stuff!

to be honest i suspect most who post to tubes are just average joe.

to go that techno i not sure many would bother, mainly as there seems to be no reward for them, and also i am not sure they would feel 100% everything was removed.

ie, you may back it up by inserting say a unique code. they may not know about it, but you do.

i would say it would be worth doing as to be honest i suspect they would be much happier ripping off online pay sites where they know its easy to do. plus can uses a false address.

Agent 488 · 03-22-2011, 10:10 AM

studies have shown a very small amount of people are responsible for the majority of shared content.

that's why you see tube accounts with hundreds/thousands of videos.

they are using automation/outsourcing to upload.

they are doing it because they watermark the vids to promote their own sites.

you whole idea sucks.

DVTimes · 03-22-2011, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDA

I thought you were saying before that the higher quality stuff would sell because it was higher quality, not because of quantity. Or did I get that wrong?

sort of

i was saying it has to be perseaved as quality.

ie, you can get a bottle of water, add a bit of orage, and sell it for £3. People see it as quality. yes it may just be tap water and a teaspoon of chead asda orange mixed in.

but put a sexy label on it, and a sexy advert, and sell in in the best shops, people love it.

sell the same stuff in a cheap shop, on the bottom shefe, covered in dust for 20p it will not sell.

thats my point.

DVTimes · 03-22-2011, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

studies have shown a very small amount of people are responsible for the majority of shared content.

that's why you see tube accounts with hundreds/thousands of videos.

they are using automation/outsourcing to upload.

they are doing it because they watermark the vids to promote their own sites.

you whole idea sucks.

not realy becase you will have worked out who it is, so you can contact every other site not to sell to them.

thus making it impossible for them to buyt.

it shuts them down in affect.

DVTimes · 03-22-2011, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by PornMD

Meh - you'd have to make the content reach out and suck the guy's dick to be good enough for them to wait weeks vs. seconds on a tube for non-exclusive content.

also in some ways your doing that.

with blu-rayt by adding extras, such as different angels your giving them much more than a tube could.

plus have you seen 3d online. its horrid. but fantasic on blu ray.

Agent 488 · 03-22-2011, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes

not realy becase you will have worked out who it is, so you can contact every other site not to sell to them.

thus making it impossible for them to buyt.

it shuts them down in affect.

how it done now you idiot? use your head.

TheDA · 03-22-2011, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes

to be honest i suspect most who post to tubes are just average joe.

to go that techno i not sure many would bother, mainly as there seems to be no reward for them, and also i am not sure they would feel 100% everything was removed.

ie, you may back it up by inserting say a unique code. they may not know about it, but you do.

i would say it would be worth doing as to be honest i suspect they would be much happier ripping off online pay sites where they know its easy to do. plus can uses a false address.

You are not getting what I am saying. There are programs that do it for you. unique codes are detected. If a random, unique code or whatever can be put in, it can be taken back out, reverse engineered from the original software that put it in.

You cannot police it on a viable scale.

DVTimes · 03-22-2011, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

how it done now you idiot? use your head.

no

bease they can use a stolen credit card and give a false address.

plus you do not know which member uploaded the films. so it cannot be done.

my method you can tell who uploaded the films.

sdo with respect you are wrong.

DVTimes · 03-22-2011, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDA

You are not getting what I am saying. There are programs that do it for you. unique codes are detected. If a random, unique code or whatever can be put in, it can be taken back out, reverse engineered from the original software that put it in.

You cannot police it on a viable scale.

true

but i would say it would reduce it.

plus as i sday the films would not be no way near as good as the ble-ray.

in effect its a cut down version.

you wouldd ver have a 100% effective solution as evertyime you get somthing, some smug 10 year old will work out how to crack it.

but its still worth trying to simply reduce. or encourage them to do other sites.

its a bit like having 10 banks. 9 or wooden, while the tenth is 50 foot walls, 100 security stagg, machine guns. while no 10 may be still possible to break in, most would do the other banks for ease.

TheDA · 03-22-2011, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes

true

but i would say it would reduce it.

plus as i sday the films would not be no way near as good as the ble-ray.

in effect its a cut down version.

you wouldd ver have a 100% effective solution as evertyime you get somthing, some smug 10 year old will work out how to crack it.

but its still worth trying to simply reduce. or encourage them to do other sites.

its a bit like having 10 banks. 9 or wooden, while the tenth is 50 foot walls, 100 security stagg, machine guns. while no 10 may be still possible to break in, most would do the other banks for ease.

The films would be as near to the quality of the original blu-ray that you wouldn't even notice the difference.

You say it is still worth trying, but I will come back to an earlier question I asked that you haven't answered.

How much time have you or an agent of yours spent in the past 6 months sending out DMCA or equivalent for your content?

It takes one serious uploader that knows what he is doing to rip your DVD and put it online.

Doesn't matter about the rest that don't know what they are doing, your content is now out there, un-encoded for all to share.

DVTimes · 03-22-2011, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDA

You cannot tell who uploaded the films with what you are suggesting.

you can if its done as i say with my blu-ray method.

if they have not removed all the info you would read it, then know who did it.

at very least you would stop there membership. at least they could not do any more discs. and with luck they only did 1 or two.

of couse a simple option is to include as i say a uniqe code.

while your correct to say it could be removed, they would need to know its there.

its like your care have codes on it. most people do not know where they are. of couse some do and can remove it.

ottopottomouse · 03-22-2011, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes

sort of

i was saying it has to be perseaved as quality.

ie, you can get a bottle of water, add a bit of orage, and sell it for £3. People see it as quality. yes it may just be tap water and a teaspoon of chead asda orange mixed in.

but put a sexy label on it, and a sexy advert, and sell in in the best shops, people love it.

sell the same stuff in a cheap shop, on the bottom shefe, covered in dust for 20p it will not sell.

thats my point.

Just because it's selling at £3 doesn't mean it's making a profit especially if you are going to spend on presentation and advertising.

DVTimes · 03-22-2011, 10:32 AM

you would of couse have an online agreement that states that you get a big fine for pirating the film and you agree not to re-sell the disc as if you do you will be still held resposible for any copyright infrigment.

then if the film apears you send them a nice legal letter.

PR_Glen · 03-22-2011, 10:34 AM

how about porn on records and 8 track? we can record the sounds of all the dvd's and mail it out world wide! Hope those people in Asia have lots of patience because sending those by ship will take a few weeks...

WINNING!

DVTimes · 03-22-2011, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

Just because it's selling at £3 doesn't mean it's making a profit especially if you are going to spend on presentation and advertising.

sure

never said that.

its about selling though. and its selling.

and if you sold 80000 discs but the profit per disc was a bit less than say on a online mebers paysite, but the online members paysite was only getting you 500 customers, i think you would prefer the 80000 members.as you will be making wods of cash.

DVTimes · 03-22-2011, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen

how about porn on records and 8 track? we can record the sounds of all the dvd's and mail it out world wide! Hope those people in Asia have lots of patience because sending those by ship will take a few weeks...

WINNING!

i am not sure you say this in jest.

but in some poor countries, films are being sent out (legit) on cd, in a low quality format, as the country is not rich and many use old pc's. so they can access films on cd and pay for them.

i remeber seeing that on bbc a few years ago. the firms was making good money from it.

so while you mock, if there is a small nomber of people who will buy, and you can make money from it. why not?

my uncle used to sell top of the range cars. one day some scrufft bloke came in to look at a jag. everyone ignored him, except my uncle. the chap pulled out cash and paid full price. it turned out he was a very well of builder. the moral is do not ignore real customers just becase your being smug and think they are not worth it.

TheDA · 03-22-2011, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes

you can if its done as i say with my blu-ray method.

if they have not removed all the info you would read it, then know who did it.

at very least you would stop there membership. at least they could not do any more discs. and with luck they only did 1 or two.

of couse a simple option is to include as i say a uniqe code.

while your correct to say it could be removed, they would need to know its there.

its like your care have codes on it. most people do not know where they are. of couse some do and can remove it.

Yes I edited my post and added some more.

As soon as word got out about steganography on videos, it would stop a percentage of people I guess.

It would also lead the makers of the uploding software to add the decoder right into the uploaders rendering it pretty much useless.

The manufacturers know this already.

TheDA · 03-22-2011, 10:51 AM

Have you had a look at what the data protection laws say about it too?

DVTimes · 03-22-2011, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDA

Yes I edited my post and added some more.

As soon as word got out about steganography on videos, it would stop a percentage of people I guess.

It would also lead the makers of the uploding software to add the decoder right into the uploaders rendering it pretty much useless.

The manufacturers know this already.

true

but again i do think that it reduses the amount of people.

plus as i say the very worst case is that people get access to a lower quality version of your film.

put it this way, i cannot sttand watching pirated dvd's taken from the cinima thats clearly been recorded from hand help. i want to see the real copy. not becase i am being good, just becase the copy sucks.

but not adding anything seems foolish.

its like vin numbers on cars. of course clever people can change them. but its still worth having on.

plus i am sure you woul have firms that would update there softwear so while people would find ways to remove stuff, the softwear would get better and better. meaning the pirate has to update his softwear all the time and hope its doing the job.

plus you have to be 100 sure you are getting rid of all the code.

i personaly would not want to trust a bit of softwear to stop me getting a fine. would you?

DVTimes · 03-22-2011, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDA

Have you had a look at what the data protection laws say about it too?

your talking about uk/eu laws.

in truth you would have problems in the uk regardless due to not being abel to post porn, or sell it ousde a sex shop.

i think my sugestion applies more to usa and canada where i belive legally there is less of a problem.

however inserting a code into a file i would presume even in the uk is ok. just like as i say your car has a vin nomber, and your phone has its own code.

Roald · 03-22-2011, 11:04 AM

Do you really think this is a great idea yourself? Cause if you do then why the hell post it on gfy instead of doing it?

btw I don't think its a good idea.

DVTimes · 03-22-2011, 11:05 AM

but i do think doing it via a frame would not be possible to remove as i say as this woulds be a burnt in image.

sort of like the 'captcha thing sites use to make sure your not a bot.

it would suly take some clever softwear to find it. or many many hours to scan each frame by hand.

DVTimes · 03-22-2011, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Roald

Do you really think this is a great idea yourself? Cause if you do then why the hell post it on gfy instead of doing it?

btw I don't think its a good idea.

we cannot do it in the uk.

any film has to go to the film sensors. and that cost a few grand. then it has to be sold in lisenced sex shops.

however i would be happy to promote any sites doing this.

DVTimes · 03-22-2011, 11:09 AM

mabe sites could offer both as an option. access to the mebers area or/and a blu ray each month.

i wonder how many fans would love to see there fav films in full large on tv.

i supose sites could have a shorter version of the film in the mebers area and the blu-ray in full. so as an affiliate rather than the person signing up for one membership they go for two. you get double the money.

DVTimes · 03-22-2011, 11:14 AM

by the way, if isp's do start to block porn as i suspect they will. well not block but charge a fee per month to be allowed to see it, then selling via ble-ray may be an option.

while it may not be blocked in the usa i suspect it will be in the uk. and i suspect webmasters would not want to loose uk income. at least this method would overcome that problem.

FlexxAeon · 03-22-2011, 11:42 AM

what the hell i thought we shot this down on page 1?!

TheDA · 03-22-2011, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by FlexxAeon

what the hell i thought we shot this down on page 1?!

Idiots keep playing to his game

Paul Markham · 03-23-2011, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes

with all due respect paul, by you saying that shows you do not understand porn at all.

for years people have subscribed to porn mags they get each month.

one of the things with porn films is people collect them. many firms such as ben dover have found if a customer likes your film, they go out and buy all of them and will be happy to weight to get the latest one.

people love to collect films.

its not about instant want. for that they go to tuibe sites.

this is about a customer wanting your product and making your product worth somthing.

1 customer of this method could easily be worth say 20 customers who join a pay site. why? well chances are those 20 will stay a month then leave.

that 1 customer may become a customer for years, not to mention ordering the back orders.

its about standing up and saying my prduct is good, its great, its worth somthing.

To be honest over the years most sites seem to have been bullied by affiliates to just give the content away, sell it for $1 trials. Basicly de-value the site.

In the uk a certain french beer was not doing well. The solution, make it expensive and add value to it. It now sells much more.

Its about making your brand value.

To be honest with my sdurfer hat on, i look at the web and think sod it, all your content in free all over. i look on a tube for a bit then i am happy. i do not look and think wow thats great i must join the site. i do not even think about it. why?

well tube sites not only give your films away free. they do it in a way it looks rubbish. the tube sites are full of adds, pop up, looks yuck.

Think this way. If you sell a brand of purfume, do you want some twit on a market stall giving ouyt free samples, and your garage selling it. No. you want the top shops to sell it. you also do not want them to sell it cheap. in fact you may want them to sell it more than you competitor. and you realy do not want them selling 2 for one or half price offer. you want it to be of value.

and so too with your content.

any burk can promote your site on any old free host. suure you may think great they can get loads of hits. but if the surfer sees it looking rubish, it makes your brand look rubbish.

for too long websites have been like bmw's but noit selling like bmw's, but instead like scrap car firms.

Don't get me wrong. Mail order porn can and does make a fortune. www.astral-blue.com is proof of that. Plus as I said there are already companies in the market doing it.

You have 2 hurdles to cross, one is legal. It's illegal to send porn by mail order in the UK and as has been pointed out in some places in the States. You run a risk, maybe operating from a safe haven will protect you.

It will add the problem of the time people will wait. Don't listen to the "impulse" buy clowns. Selling a repeat sale product on impulse shows how little they know about marketing porn. The only impulse is which one to buy this month. Online porn impulse buying went out about 2000. We now rely on seasoned buyers for the main part of our income. Just like all porn markets.

And for that it needs to be quality. And sadly there's little of that around. Forget about putting your, mine or 95% of online only porn onto Blue Ray and think it will sell to seasoned buyers, your core market. It won't, because it's simply not good enough. What ever you try to sell needs to worth buying again and again and again.

Retention times on Internet paysites show it's not. Otherwise you'll be forever looking to replace impulse buy customers with new impulse buy customers. Impulse buyers are apt at losing the impulse very fast and not getting it again for a while.

Porn websites aren't anything like BMW. More like Trotters 3 wheeler.

Then there's budgets. Do you have enough to set this up? It will need an office where you won't be getting a bang on the door. Stock that covers a number of titles or are you going to buy one of each and dupe them? That will need a license or you'll be pirating.

Paul Markham · 03-23-2011, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

Instead of coming up with all of these gimmicks, why not focus on making some good porn? Not directed at the OP, just porn producers in general. Good product sells itself.

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Originally Posted by PornMD

Meh - you'd have to make the content reach out and suck the guy's dick to be good enough for them to wait weeks vs. seconds on a tube for non-exclusive content.

I've been saying this for years and 99% have told me it's wrong. They think selling crap is a far better route.

They're going for that impulse buyer.

Paul Markham · 03-23-2011, 01:20 AM

Adam. You're selling this idea to the wrong market. Online porn workers are stuck in a rut. They think the only way to view porn is online, or now mobile phones. They have little to no clue what happens outside their tiny little world. Very few who have been to a Vegas Internet show and wandered across to see the offline porn show. Going to the Berlin Venus Show would blow their tiny minds.

While online porn shows are held in one hall, often not full, Berlin is in 5 halls. Well it was last time I was there. While some of the big online guys have a tiny booth, the offline guys have enormous ones. While online pays fractions for content, many offline guys pay a lot more.

Yes the market is failing and nothing will stop it, the slope has no upside. Because the guys buying quality are dying off to be replaced by kids who like these guys think it's all about free. And selling on an impulse buy.

Your idea does work. Because people who want quality want it on their wide screen TV, want it in Blue Ray or real HD. They're not worried about the wife seeing it, because she either knows what's going on, maybe menopause or age has taken her sex drive and not her husbands, maybe she watches the movies with him or maybe he's single.

There are already people doing it, in te UK the big one is Your Choice.

Which shows how clueless some of the replies here are. They don't sell Blue Ray so maybe there's a reason or maybe there's a gap in te market. how many porn titles are available in Blue Ray?

Zorgman · 03-23-2011, 02:11 AM

USB key data drives would be better then DVD's but they cost a lot more. Someone is already doing this. However if you sold the subscription from adult stores then it might work. Vendor gets a % of the sales then just pick up the sales from then. However like it's been pointed out, dvd's cost, time to burn and watermark, price to package with labels etc.

DVTimes · 03-23-2011, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Don't get me wrong. Mail order porn can and does make a fortune. www.astral-blue.com is proof of that. Plus as I said there are already companies in the market doing it.

You have 2 hurdles to cross, one is legal. It's illegal to send porn by mail order in the UK and as has been pointed out in some places in the States. You run a risk, maybe operating from a safe haven will protect you.

It will add the problem of the time people will wait. Don't listen to the "impulse" buy clowns. Selling a repeat sale product on impulse shows how little they know about marketing porn. The only impulse is which one to buy this month. Online porn impulse buying went out about 2000. We now rely on seasoned buyers for the main part of our income. Just like all porn markets.

And for that it needs to be quality. And sadly there's little of that around. Forget about putting your, mine or 95% of online only porn onto Blue Ray and think it will sell to seasoned buyers, your core market. It won't, because it's simply not good enough. What ever you try to sell needs to worth buying again and again and again.

Retention times on Internet paysites show it's not. Otherwise you'll be forever looking to replace impulse buy customers with new impulse buy customers. Impulse buyers are apt at losing the impulse very fast and not getting it again for a while.

Porn websites aren't anything like BMW. More like Trotters 3 wheeler.

Then there's budgets. Do you have enough to set this up? It will need an office where you won't be getting a bang on the door. Stock that covers a number of titles or are you going to buy one of each and dupe them? That will need a license or you'll be pirating.

to be honest i was more refering to usa sites not uk.

it is possible to do it in the uk by doing soft porn, so its only 18 certificate rather than r18.

you can post 18 through the post.

however the pure expence of having to put a film through the film sensors would not make it worth while. and as they pay on time of film, with blue ray with the extras you could be looking at hours of content. so it would cost thousands.

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Roald SecretFriends.com Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: IMC Headquarters Posts: 27,877	Do you really think this is a great idea yourself? Cause if you do then why the hell post it on gfy instead of doing it? btw I don't think its a good idea. __________________ WE ARE BUYING PAY SITES! CONTACT ME ClubSweethearts \| ManUpFilms \| SinfulXXX \| HOT * AdultPrime * HOT Paying webmasters since 1996! Contact: r.riepen @ sansylgroup.com \| skype:roaldr \| icq:

03-22-2011, 11:05 AM	#132
DVTimes xxx Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 31,544	but i do think doing it via a frame would not be possible to remove as i say as this woulds be a burnt in image. sort of like the 'captcha thing sites use to make sure your not a bot. it would suly take some clever softwear to find it. or many many hours to scan each frame by hand. __________________ The Affiliate Program

03-22-2011, 10:10 AM	#112
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	studies have shown a very small amount of people are responsible for the majority of shared content. that's why you see tube accounts with hundreds/thousands of videos. they are using automation/outsourcing to upload. they are doing it because they watermark the vids to promote their own sites. you whole idea sucks.

03-22-2011, 10:51 AM	#128
TheDA Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4,665	Have you had a look at what the data protection laws say about it too?

03-22-2011, 11:09 AM	#134
DVTimes xxx Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 31,544	mabe sites could offer both as an option. access to the mebers area or/and a blu ray each month. i wonder how many fans would love to see there fav films in full large on tv. i supose sites could have a shorter version of the film in the mebers area and the blu-ray in full. so as an affiliate rather than the person signing up for one membership they go for two. you get double the money. __________________ The Affiliate Program

03-22-2011, 11:14 AM	#135
DVTimes xxx Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 31,544	by the way, if isp's do start to block porn as i suspect they will. well not block but charge a fee per month to be allowed to see it, then selling via ble-ray may be an option. while it may not be blocked in the usa i suspect it will be in the uk. and i suspect webmasters would not want to loose uk income. at least this method would overcome that problem. __________________ The Affiliate Program

03-22-2011, 11:42 AM	#136
FlexxAeon Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,765	what the hell i thought we shot this down on page 1?! __________________ flexx [dot] aeon [at] gmail

03-23-2011, 01:20 AM	#140
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Adam. You're selling this idea to the wrong market. Online porn workers are stuck in a rut. They think the only way to view porn is online, or now mobile phones. They have little to no clue what happens outside their tiny little world. Very few who have been to a Vegas Internet show and wandered across to see the offline porn show. Going to the Berlin Venus Show would blow their tiny minds. While online porn shows are held in one hall, often not full, Berlin is in 5 halls. Well it was last time I was there. While some of the big online guys have a tiny booth, the offline guys have enormous ones. While online pays fractions for content, many offline guys pay a lot more. Yes the market is failing and nothing will stop it, the slope has no upside. Because the guys buying quality are dying off to be replaced by kids who like these guys think it's all about free. And selling on an impulse buy. Your idea does work. Because people who want quality want it on their wide screen TV, want it in Blue Ray or real HD. They're not worried about the wife seeing it, because she either knows what's going on, maybe menopause or age has taken her sex drive and not her husbands, maybe she watches the movies with him or maybe he's single. There are already people doing it, in te UK the big one is Your Choice. Which shows how clueless some of the replies here are. They don't sell Blue Ray so maybe there's a reason or maybe there's a gap in te market. how many porn titles are available in Blue Ray? __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

03-23-2011, 02:11 AM	#141
Zorgman Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 6,103	USB key data drives would be better then DVD's but they cost a lot more. Someone is already doing this. However if you sold the subscription from adult stores then it might work. Vendor gets a % of the sales then just pick up the sales from then. However like it's been pointed out, dvd's cost, time to burn and watermark, price to package with labels etc. __________________ ---