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TripleXPrint · 05-10-2011, 01:52 PM

I have customers canceling left and right because they can't afford to pay $30 a month. What the fuck kind of bullshit is that!??!?

When is this shit going to get better?

Agent 488 · 05-10-2011, 01:53 PM

when they rebuild the real wage productive economy.

TubeKing · 05-10-2011, 01:58 PM

joins and rebills are better than ever here.

Markul · 05-10-2011, 02:05 PM

Well the dollar is down, that fucking sucks for us non-us people! On the other hand, that should make more non-us people signup... hmmm

grumpy · 05-10-2011, 02:05 PM

has nothing to do with the economy, its the economy of adult. Why pay if you can get it for free?

2intense · 05-10-2011, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by grumpy

has nothing to do with the economy, its the economy of adult. Why pay if you can get it for free?

fuck tubes

pornguy · 05-10-2011, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by grumpy

has nothing to do with the economy, its the economy of adult. Why pay if you can get it for free?

Not really. Its a part of both that has hurt a lot of people.

Internet User · 05-10-2011, 02:12 PM

Manwin is destroying the industry

ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-10-2011, 02:13 PM

What are you doing that warrants charging 30.00 a month?

woj · 05-10-2011, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatOtherGuy

What are you doing that warrants charging 30.00 a month?

was about to ask the same thing... porn memberships?

djroof · 05-10-2011, 02:18 PM

general economy sucks... I dont know about USA but here in Europe... EURO has killed all of us...

czarina · 05-10-2011, 02:30 PM

I go to restaurants, the movies and stores, and they're always packed. There is no real recession for those businesses. Mainstream brick and mortar industries are booming, while adult is sinking!

xNetworx · 05-10-2011, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by czarina

I go to restaurants, the movies and stores, and they're always packed. There is no real recession for those businesses. Mainstream brick and mortar industries are booming, while adult is sinking!

Restaurants and bars by me are not as busy on weeknights as they used to be. Travel is def down. People haven't stopped going out to eat but a lot have cut out vacations.

webairalex · 05-10-2011, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by czarina

I go to restaurants, the movies and stores, and they're always packed. There is no real recession for those businesses. Mainstream brick and mortar industries are booming, while adult is sinking!

Where are you? construction here in the US is down,

GatorB · 05-10-2011, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TripleXPrint

I have customers canceling left and right because they can't afford to pay $30 a month. What the fuck kind of bullshit is that!??!?

When is this shit going to get better?

Is that what they tell you? Or is it they've discovered tubes. Also I'm sorry but no site is worth $360 a year anymore. When Netflix only charges $8 a month $30 is just rediculous. And yes I'm aware Netflix doesn't show porn. It shows media most people value more highly than porn and are still only charging $8 a month for it.

L-Pink · 05-10-2011, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Is that what they tell you? Or is it they've discovered tubes. Also I'm sorry but no site is worth $360 a year anymore. When Netflix only charges $8 a month $30 is just rediculous. And yes I'm aware Netflix doesn't show porn. It shows media most people value more highly than porn and are still only charging $8 a month for it.

So tubes and the economy have drastically reduced the porn customer base and for those left you have to reduce prices by 70% .......

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RyuLion · 05-10-2011, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by czarina

I go to restaurants, the movies and stores, and they're always packed. There is no real recession for those businesses. Mainstream brick and mortar industries are booming, while adult is sinking!

LedZep · 05-10-2011, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TripleXPrint

I have customers canceling left and right because they can't afford to pay $30 a month. What the fuck kind of bullshit is that!??!?

When is this shit going to get better?

If the economy was that bad people wouldnt be signing up and paying in the first place.

Jman · 05-10-2011, 05:06 PM

be creative... you are the only one that can really make a change ;)

mikesinner · 05-10-2011, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by czarina

I go to restaurants, the movies and stores, and they're always packed. There is no real recession for those businesses. Mainstream brick and mortar industries are booming, while adult is sinking!

agreed, can't hardly walk in the malls.

Jakez · 05-10-2011, 05:12 PM

Ask them what they WOULD pay, give them a free month, and afterward let them rebill at whatever they say they would be willing to pay, as long as it's a reasonable amount.

Bladewire · 05-10-2011, 05:30 PM

For a second I thought this was a bumped thread from last year. I feel bad for anyone still having it rough that sucks hang in there and keep plugin away

Bladewire · 05-10-2011, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakez

Ask them what they WOULD pay, give them a free month, and afterward let them rebill at whatever they say they would be willing to pay, as long as it's a reasonable amount.

GatorB · 05-10-2011, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

So tubes and the economy have drastically reduced the porn customer base and for those left you have to reduce prices by 70% .......

Pretty much. Times change. 20 years ago you could sell a 80 minute VHS tape with 5 porn scenes for $30( $50 in today's money ). Try doing that today. Content just doesn't have the same value it used to. That's just the reality. People either can accept it to not but it's still the truth.

Fenris Wolf · 05-10-2011, 07:10 PM

I have to admit the past several weeks have been exceptionally brutal for me. I have always maintained a pretty consistent ratio over the years but these days they are all over the place.

potter · 05-10-2011, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Also I'm sorry but no site is worth $360 a year anymore. When Netflix only charges $8 a month $30 is just rediculous. And yes I'm aware Netflix doesn't show porn. It shows media most people value more highly than porn and are still only charging $8 a month for it.

I'd like to see anyone here charging $30/month - explain how they have a better content than netflix and are worth the added $22/month.

SomeCreep · 05-10-2011, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TripleXPrint

I have customers canceling left and right because they can't afford to pay $30 a month. What the fuck kind of bullshit is that!??!?

When is this shit going to get better?

This is the adult industry dude. Nothing ever gets better.

suesheboy · 05-10-2011, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

I'm sorry but no site is worth $360 a year anymore. When Netflix only charges $8 a month $30 is just rediculous. And yes I'm aware Netflix doesn't show porn. It shows media most people value more highly than porn and are still only charging $8 a month for it.

This, though simple, is one of the most brilliant things ever posted on GFY. Bottom line, porn as it is now will be dead shortly. How much can an affiliate make if porn sells at $8/month and with ratios running at 1:1,000?

L-Pink · 05-10-2011, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Pretty much. Times change. 20 years ago you could sell a 80 minute VHS tape with 5 porn scenes for $30( $50 in today's money ). Try doing that today. Content just doesn't have the same value it used to. That's just the reality. People either can accept it to not but it's still the truth.

Also I'm sorry but no site is worth $360 a year anymore. When Netflix only charges $8 a month $30 is just rediculous. And yes I'm aware Netflix doesn't show porn. It shows media most people value more highly than porn and are still only charging $8 a month for it.

I don't need a calculator to do the math on this ....... Porn really is dead.

The future holds what, sites pimping semi-scam dating sites and cams.

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Barefootsies · 05-10-2011, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

The future holds what, sites pimping semi-scam dating sites and cams.

Sweet justice.

Barefootsies · 05-10-2011, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatOtherGuy

What are you doing that warrants charging 30.00 a month?

Many are offering pay sites with 1995-2003 over sold mainstream porn content, including the old 320 x 180 videos, and maybe a couple of hundred scenes if that.

Yet are mystified why they can't convert these old BROgram sites.

leg4 · 05-10-2011, 08:15 PM

The paradigm shift of today's buyers is that PORN IS FREE.

SallyRand · 05-10-2011, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TripleXPrint

I have customers canceling left and right because they can't afford to pay $30 a month. What the fuck kind of bullshit is that!??!?

When is this shit going to get better?

When you make is better by broadening you base.

NEWSFLASH!

THE ECONOMY IS TANKING!

ADAPT OR DIE!

L-Pink · 05-10-2011, 08:22 PM

An entire generation has been trained to expect free porn.

DaddyHalbucks · 05-10-2011, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Markul

Well the dollar is down, that fucking sucks for us non-us people! On the other hand, that should make more non-us people signup... hmmm

My recollection is that alot of the non-US webmasters were big Obama supporters.

It is said that Capitalism trickles down --but it appears that Socialism doesn't trickle, except for the political class.

marlboroack · 05-10-2011, 09:56 PM

That's business mate, try changing your niche and updating your content. Give your members what members want. Chat rooms, live girls. You know. A good time. Imagine what i can do at home with 30$ for a good time.

Agent 488 · 05-10-2011, 09:58 PM

things are booming because it was busy at olive garden. ignore every other economic indicator known to man.

plsureking · 05-10-2011, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by suesheboy

This, though simple, is one of the most brilliant things ever posted on GFY. Bottom line, porn as it is now will be dead shortly. How much can an affiliate make if porn sells at $8/month and with ratios running at 1:1,000?

i set the price of FantasyOne.com to $10 and it converts at under 1:100. more importantly, rebills are over 60%.

there's wisdom in this thread boys...

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Jakez · 05-11-2011, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Squirtit

Bullshit <3

Are you saying charging less is not a way you can retain members? See below retard.

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Originally Posted by plsureking

i set the price of FantasyOne.com to $10 and it converts at under 1:100. more importantly, rebills are over 60%.

there's wisdom in this thread boys...

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Phoenix · 05-11-2011, 01:01 PM

you need to combat with more firepower.
give them better quality videos..and more of them

just cause shit is free on tubes...doesnt change the fact that most of it low quality shit

GatorB · 05-11-2011, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by suesheboy

This, though simple, is one of the most brilliant things ever posted on GFY. Bottom line, porn as it is now will be dead shortly. How much can an affiliate make if porn sells at $8/month and with ratios running at 1:1,000?

Well progam owners just can't afford to pay affiliates $35 a sale and charge a price that surfers will be willing to pay. In the near future the affiliate model will go away. Site owners will have to pimp their own shit so they can save the cost of paying affiliates.

Look at mainsteam affilate programs. Affiliates are lucky if they get 15% on a sale and it's closer to 5%-8%. And let's face it no one will be an affiliate of a porn site that is only going to pay then 15% on a $10 monthly sale.

DWB · 05-11-2011, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Also I'm sorry but no site is worth $360 a year anymore.

This is not necessarily true. A site is worth whatever it is worth to the guy holding his cock in his hand and wanting to cum.

It's only not worth it to those looking for a bargain.

DWB · 05-11-2011, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by suesheboy

Bottom line, porn as it is now will be dead shortly. How much can an affiliate make if porn sells at $8/month and with ratios running at 1:1,000?

The affiliate model is dying, no doubt about that. And porn as we know it will be dead. But porn will not die. It's just thinning out.

GatorB · 05-11-2011, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB

This is not necessarily true. A site is worth whatever it is worth to the guy holding his cock in his hand and wanting to cum.

It's only not worth it to those looking for a bargain.

When 99.9% of people going to a site say "thanks, but no thanks" I'd say that's a CLEAR indication that a site is overpriced. Keep thinking you can make big bucks selling $30-$40 monthly memberships.

Robbie · 05-11-2011, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by grumpy

has nothing to do with the economy, its the economy of adult. Why pay if you can get it for free?

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DWB · 05-11-2011, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

When 99.9% of people going to a site say "thanks, but no thanks" I'd say that's a CLEAR indication that a site is overpriced.

Keep thinking you can make big bucks selling $30-$40 monthly memberships.

Well, maybe 99.9% of people who are visiting generic porn sites. But I wouldn't know, that's not the market I am in. I would probably be out of business if I was.

I sell memberships for $29.95. No complaints. Decent ratios and rebills. Of course I have my up and down sales swings, and some sites do better than others, but I have unique content that people will pay for IF that is what they are looking for. Not everyone can make money pushing my sites, that's a given, but those who do well, do very well.

I've also tested different price points and they have not made a difference for what I sell. And I still test different price points from time to time just to make sure I'm doing the right thing.

Will it all change in 6 months from now? Maybe. But today I can sell my sites for $29.95.

Jakez · 05-11-2011, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Look at mainsteam affilate programs. Affiliates are lucky if they get 15% on a sale and it's closer to 5%-8%. And let's face it no one will be an affiliate of a porn site that is only going to pay then 15% on a $10 monthly sale.

I would accept $10 PPS if the ratios were 3x better. If a ratio went from 1:1000 to 1:300 you would make more money on $10 PPS.

Edit: oh I see you said 15% of $10 not $10 on a sale, in that case, fuck no lol.

The Porn Nerd · 05-11-2011, 06:43 PM

I am now offering a "whack off now, pay later" option where the member gets charged only for when he actually touches his pecker. Brand new tracking technology that only requires a webcam. Hush hush.

Vendzilla · 05-11-2011, 06:46 PM

I say something about the economy and I get attacked, LOL

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05-10-2011, 01:52 PM	#1
TripleXPrint Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 983	The ecomony FUCKING SUCKS!!! I have customers canceling left and right because they can't afford to pay $30 a month. What the fuck kind of bullshit is that!??!? When is this shit going to get better? __________________ Skype: Triplexprint

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