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Old 06-16-2011, 11:41 AM   #1
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Just back from Vancouver.. Congrats Vancouver...NOTHING HAS CHANGED

So here I am at Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals, the Canadian national anthem is being sung and in unison over 18,000 Canadian hockey fans are singing along as one clebrating their team ,thier city, thier country. It was breath taking....THEN there are 18,000 fans.. booing as loud as humanly possible as Gary Bettman trys to present the Conn Smythe trophy and then the Stanley Cup. Booing every player from Boston that hoists the Cup. Oh yeah did I mention the 40 or 50 beers, soda and water bottles that were tossed on to the ice hiiting players . One large soda hit a cameraman as he was shooting the Cup being presented to Chara. I mean hit him dead on and sprayed soda everywhere ..including the holy grail itself. I saw THE CUP geyt hit twice with waterbottles.
Oh yeah it gets worse..then came the fires and the riots. The beatings and the stabbings. The idiots throwing debris at the police line. Tear gas and explosions everywhere. The city was on fire and my ass was caught right in the middle and was lucky to find a hotel close by. I watched as they looted many stores, burned cars , one guy even burned a Canadian flag.

Vancouver fans, you are a bunch of asshats and may the hockey gods NEVER EVER reward you with a CUP. To the few who had nothing to do with it I feel sorry for you.
Your team, your city and your country has been embarrassed beyond belief. See you in another 15 years or so next time you grobble into the finals.
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Old 06-16-2011, 11:43 AM   #2
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Most Canadians outside of BC hate the Canucks and wanted them to lose...myself included
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Why do NFL fans never riot ??

All i ever see is fans giving high-fives and drinking coke... Bah!
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i saw the live feed last night that agent posted, it looked like a few cars and thats all. but you say there were stabbings and beatings? have any pics??
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Why do NFL fans never riot ??

All i ever see is fans giving high-fives and drinking coke... Bah!
NFL fans are much more sophisticated.


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Why do NFL fans never riot ??

All i ever see is fans giving high-fives and drinking coke... Bah!
Cuz the Super Bowl is held in a neutral location 95% of the time.
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So here I am at Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals, the Canadian national anthem is being sung and in unison over 18,000 Canadian hockey fans are singing along as one clebrating their team ,thier city, thier country. It was breath taking....THEN there are 18,000 fans.. booing as loud as humanly possible as Gary Bettman trys to present the Conn Smythe trophy and then the Stanley Cup. Booing every player from Boston that hoists the Cup. Oh yeah did I mention the 40 or 50 beers, soda and water bottles that were tossed on to the ice hiiting players . One large soda hit a cameraman as he was shooting the Cup being presented to Chara. I mean hit him dead on and sprayed soda everywhere ..including the holy grail itself. I saw THE CUP geyt hit twice with waterbottles.
Oh yeah it gets worse..then came the fires and the riots. The beatings and the stabbings. The idiots throwing debris at the police line. Tear gas and explosions everywhere. The city was on fire and my ass was caught right in the middle and was lucky to find a hotel close by. I watched as they looted many stores, burned cars , one guy even burned a Canadian flag.

Vancouver fans, you are a bunch of asshats and may the hockey gods NEVER EVER reward you with a CUP. To the few who had nothing to do with it I feel sorry for you.
Your team, your city and your country has been embarrassed beyond belief. See you in another 15 years or so next time you grobble into the finals.

If you were really there and actually listening you would have noticed that the fans inside the building were classy as can be during/after the game.

They booed Bettman because he is an ass-hat, but aside from that Milan Lucic got a deafening cheer from the crowd, Tim Thomas was choked up in the post-game interview because of how loudly the fans cheered for him, and every Bruin that grabbed the cup to skate around was cheered.

The real fans stayed for the entire celebration and showed exceptional class and character. The ass-clowns outside that had PRE-MEDITATED plans to riot no matter the outcome of the come are the ones who should be reprimanded.
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So here I am at Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals, the Canadian national anthem is being sung and in unison over 18,000 Canadian hockey fans are singing along as one clebrating their team ,thier city, thier country. It was breath taking....THEN there are 18,000 fans.. booing as loud as humanly possible as Gary Bettman trys to present the Conn Smythe trophy and then the Stanley Cup. Booing every player from Boston that hoists the Cup. Oh yeah did I mention the 40 or 50 beers, soda and water bottles that were tossed on to the ice hiiting players . One large soda hit a cameraman as he was shooting the Cup being presented to Chara. I mean hit him dead on and sprayed soda everywhere ..including the holy grail itself. I saw THE CUP geyt hit twice with waterbottles.
Oh yeah it gets worse..then came the fires and the riots. The beatings and the stabbings. The idiots throwing debris at the police line. Tear gas and explosions everywhere. The city was on fire and my ass was caught right in the middle and was lucky to find a hotel close by. I watched as they looted many stores, burned cars , one guy even burned a Canadian flag.

Vancouver fans, you are a bunch of asshats and may the hockey gods NEVER EVER reward you with a CUP. To the few who had nothing to do with it I feel sorry for you.
Your team, your city and your country has been embarrassed beyond belief. See you in another 15 years or so next time you grobble into the finals.
Canadians saw a lot of shit go down during the l.a. riots but we didn't generalize all l.a. people as rioting looting douchebags..

I saw alot of fans trying to stop the looting and destruction .. most of the looters and rioters were not fans and it is simply assinine to generalize all vancouver fans as "asshats" or to say "the few who had nothing to do with it" when infact the overall majority of fans had NOTHING to do with it. You would be much closer in fact by saying all people in los angeles are mexican.
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If you were really there and actually listening you would have noticed that the fans inside the building were classy as can be during/after the game.

They booed Bettman because he is an ass-hat, but aside from that Milan Lucic got a deafening cheer from the crowd, Tim Thomas was choked up in the post-game interview because of how loudly the fans cheered for him, and every Bruin that grabbed the cup to skate around was cheered.

The real fans stayed for the entire celebration and showed exceptional class and character. The ass-clowns outside that had PRE-MEDITATED plans to riot no matter the outcome of the come are the ones who should be reprimanded.
yes I do apologize they did cheer for Lucic but there was about 40 bottles and cups pelted to the ice. NO MATTER HOW MUCH you hate Bettman.. it is supposedly CANADAS GAME. And The Holy Grail was breing presented. ENOUGH SAID. NO CLASS AT ALL>
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Canadians saw a lot of shit go down during the l.a. riots but we didn't generalize all l.a. people as rioting looting douchebags..

I saw alot of fans trying to stop the looting and destruction .. most of the looters and rioters were not fans and it is simply assinine to generalize all vancouver fans as "asshats" or to say "the few who had nothing to do with it" when infact the overall majority of fans had NOTHING to do with it. You would be much closer in fact by saying all people in los angeles are mexican.
Smokey I knew someone would bring up LA riots and yes they are fucking as big asshats as ever. But what happened in LA WAS NOTHING... NOTHING compared to the destruction that just happened in Vancouver. I think the booing of Bettman was inexcusable. No matter what. This is Canadass game and they embarrassed themselves.
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yes I do apologize they did cheer for Lucic but there was about 40 bottles and cups pelted to the ice. NO MATTER HOW MUCH you hate Bettman.. it is supposedly CANADAS GAME. And The Holy Grail was breing presented. ENOUGH SAID. NO CLASS AT ALL>
Yes but Bettman has single-handedly been responsible for trying to ruin Canada's game...and for taking Canadian teams and moving them to unsuccessful American markets.

They stopped the booing and the throwing of bottles the moment Chara took the cup from Bettman's weasel-like, sleazy, greedy hands.

Bettman gets booed like that in every single NHL arena in the league.
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yes I do apologize they did cheer for Lucic but there was about 40 bottles and cups pelted to the ice. NO MATTER HOW MUCH you hate Bettman.. it is supposedly CANADAS GAME. And The Holy Grail was breing presented. ENOUGH SAID. NO CLASS AT ALL>
PLease watch this and tell me that every fan was BOOing and throwing shit on the ice. You are generalizing. There were more Van fans clapping for boston then not.

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I agree with that. Problem is the world is saying " did you see what happened in Canada" Its not right just as its not all canuck fans .. but as I was watching on tv from my hotel, I sure saw alot of Canuck jerseys out there watching and laughing
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Most fans in the arena were good, as for Bettman you must be new cause he gets booed everywhere he goes in Canada. He has taken teams from markets with passionate fans and dropped them in places like Phoenix and Atlanta where nobody would even know there was a game going on. As for the Canadas game thing look at the rosters and you will see 17 Canadians on the Bruins
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I agree with that. Problem is the world is saying " did you see what happened in Canada" Its not right just as its not all canuck fans .. but as I was watching on tv from my hotel, I sure saw alot of Canuck jerseys out there watching and laughing
The best part about this whole embarrassment...and it IS an embarrassment and I am ashamed of the people that rioted....

Is the fact that a 4-5 hour riot involving a few hundred people makes world news.

Just goes to show how cool, calm, collected, and orderly Canada is for the most part. I saw a riot worse than this a few weeks ago...and all it consisted of was a huge lawn party for some fraternities.

I am truly embarrassed and disappointed in the people involved in what happened last night....but it was the minority. It was goons hell-bent on using game 7 as an excuse to stir up trouble.

NOT the majority of Canadians, Canucks fans, or anything of the sorts.
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Most fans in the arena were good, as for Bettman you must be new cause he gets booed everywhere he goes in Canada. He has taken teams from markets with passionate fans and dropped them in places like Phoenix and Atlanta where nobody would even know there was a game going on. As for the Canadas game thing look at the rosters and you will see 17 Canadians on the Bruins
Its just a saying, by Canadas game it means game is pretty muchs thier past time as baseball is USAs. Im just saying what I saw peeps. It was bad there.
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The best part about this whole embarrassment...and it IS an embarrassment and I am ashamed of the people that rioted....

Is the fact that a 4-5 hour riot involving a few hundred people makes world news.

Just goes to show how cool, calm, collected, and orderly Canada is for the most part. I saw a riot worse than this a few weeks ago...and all it consisted of was a huge lawn party for some fraternities.

I am truly embarrassed and disappointed in the people involved in what happened last night....but it was the minority. It was goons hell-bent on using game 7 as an excuse to stir up trouble.

NOT the majority of Canadians, Canucks fans, or anything of the sorts.
Well buddy now its happened twice there. This time worse than 94. I dont recall any riots in any other cities when thier team lost in the finals. There may have been but I dont recall
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The best part about this whole embarrassment...and it IS an embarrassment and I am ashamed of the people that rioted....

Is the fact that a 4-5 hour riot involving a few hundred people makes world news.

Just goes to show how cool, calm, collected, and orderly Canada is for the most part. I saw a riot worse than this a few weeks ago...and all it consisted of was a huge lawn party for some fraternities.

I am truly embarrassed and disappointed in the people involved in what happened last night....but it was the minority. It was goons hell-bent on using game 7 as an excuse to stir up trouble.

NOT the majority of Canadians, Canucks fans, or anything of the sorts.
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Amongst it all, a cluster had formed. A circle around a fight. In the middle where masked up ?rowdies? trying to make an escape. ?Kill the fuckin anarchists? was the slogan shared by a few. These anarchists where too self-conscious, and in a riot where the everyday was ruptured in the clothes put on that morning, these black uniforms became totally alien. Suspect. Ridicules. As for security culture, the logic was lost in the conspiracy of numbers. As a vandguardist adventurism, it had them running away from the riot and towards a riot cop line.
http://vancouver.mediacoop.ca/story/...town-fire/7495

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Well buddy now its happened twice there. This time worse than 94. I dont recall any riots in any other cities when thier team lost in the finals. There may have been but I dont recall
Ever watched a soccer game in any other country other than Canada and the US?
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watching the live feed people were charging the cops lines and taunting them, fighting them, not running away scared.
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I'm visiting Vancouver in August, and this incident has really lowered my excitement level about going. I think those fucks had it in their head they had already won, and like so many self-entitled punks these days, decided to throw a fucking hissy fit. Fuck them in the ass.
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watching the live feed people were charging the cops lines and taunting them, fighting them, not running away scared.
how much do you know about agent provacateur tactics?
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I'm visiting Vancouver in August, and this incident has really lowered my excitement level about going. I think those fucks had it in their head they had already won, and like so many self-entitled punks these days, decided to throw a fucking hissy fit. Fuck them in the ass.
This is an isolated incident, and for the most part it didnt even involve fans. I was just listening to a cop and a firefighter talk on the radio about how they watched (not to sterotype) a lot of young punks that were obviously "low on the employment ladder" come downtown AFTER the game to stir this up and be a part of it.

Real fans cheered and went home.

ANd as mentioned already, this wasnt done because the fans thought they had won the cup and were upset. It would have happened either way, win or lose,thanks to the few that screwed this up for the rest of us.
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they were just unmasked jersey wearing schlubs unlike the black masked rcmps of the g20 etc.
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But what happened in LA WAS NOTHING... NOTHING compared to the destruction that just happened in Vancouver.

what are you smoking ?? you can't be serious

Widespread looting, assault, arson and murder occurred, and property damages topped roughly US$1 billion. In all, 53 people died during the riots and thousands more were injured.

although i think you are confusing la riots

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bettman is an asshole.. he deserves the boos it isn't new.

Boston fans booing the canadian anthem despite the fact the vast majority of the main players are canadian was much more unsportsmanlike
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they were just unmasked jersey wearing schlubs unlike the black masked rcmps of the g20 etc.
amusing, however, knowing hte first pic i'd see would be a cop car

the shoulderbag was just gravy
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STo the few who had nothing to do with it I feel sorry for you.
Your team, your city and your country has been embarrassed beyond belief.
Embarrassed is pretty much how I feel

Vancouver and it's surrounding suburbs are full of douchebags though, one of the only reasons I don't miss living there.
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what are you smoking ?? you can't be serious

Widespread looting, assault, arson and murder occurred, and property damages topped roughly US$1 billion. In all, 53 people died during the riots and thousands more were injured.

although i think you are confusing la riots



bettman is an asshole.. he deserves the boos it isn't new.

Boston fans booing the canadian anthem despite the fact the vast majority of the main players are canadian was much more unsportsmanlike
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=XWLqLeRv5sw

Skip to 2:00 and you will see a real citizen standing up....keep watching and you can see that it is mainly punk skateboard hipsters responsible for most of the BS.

Im loving Facebook right now, punks are being identified and arrested left, right and center thanks to real citizens that are standing up and identifying them.

Tip for future...dont riot in the days of social media.
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well Joe, you truly show off your hockey knowledge about Bettman.

I know the Kings have never, and probably will never win the Cup. But he gets booed badly everywhere and especially at the cup presentation.
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https://youtube.com/watch?feature...WXGEqbQ#at=214

getting funny at 3.12
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Yeah, that's when you just walk away from riots like these. The mob comes down on you like antibodies on a virus...

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This is an isolated incident, and for the most part it didnt even involve fans. I was just listening to a cop and a firefighter talk on the radio about how they watched (not to sterotype) a lot of young punks that were obviously "low on the employment ladder" come downtown AFTER the game to stir this up and be a part of it.

Real fans cheered and went home.

ANd as mentioned already, this wasnt done because the fans thought they had won the cup and were upset. It would have happened either way, win or lose,thanks to the few that screwed this up for the rest of us.
yeah I heard a report about "anarchists" on CNN, who basically look for events like this to do their thing. It's not like you can just make Molotov cocktails spur of the moment. It has to be planned.
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congrats to the classy Boston Bruins and their fans
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i bet it was the same hooligans from the g13 summit earlier. trouble makers. they should be sent to an island somewhere.
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If you were really there and actually listening you would have noticed that the fans inside the building were classy as can be during/after the game.

They booed Bettman because he is an ass-hat, but aside from that Milan Lucic got a deafening cheer from the crowd, Tim Thomas was choked up in the post-game interview because of how loudly the fans cheered for him, and every Bruin that grabbed the cup to skate around was cheered.

The real fans stayed for the entire celebration and showed exceptional class and character. The ass-clowns outside that had PRE-MEDITATED plans to riot no matter the outcome of the come are the ones who should be reprimanded.
Ah, the true story emerges. Thank you for saving me the trouble. (of typing it all out myself)
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i bet it was the same hooligans from the g13 summit earlier. trouble makers. they should be sent to an island somewhere.
That's exactly what I'm thinking. There are organized "protest" groups travelling around N America and sending their people to every event where they can stir up shit and do damage to property they don't own. Ever see the movie "Battle in Seattle" you'll see just how organized these groups are, and they talk about how they migrate around to event after event.

The g20 in Toronto was them too, I'm sure of it.
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i watched the live feeds, plus looked at a lot of the videos and photos.

it wasn't "anarchists" who were destroying but but your average beer swilling sports lout. the same type of person behind any other sports riot.

there was like one anarchist mask to 100 vancouver jerseys.

it's easier to pass blame on some anarchist oddball than the guy working beside you.

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oh please, look at the videos - the vast majority of the bad apples kicking in windows, looting, burning shit and fighting were local kids from the suburbs not organized anarchists. they were part of it no doubt but most of what I see are typical Canadian suburban young 'adults'.
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That's exactly what I'm thinking. There are organized "protest" groups travelling around N America and sending their people to every event where they can stir up shit and do damage to property they don't own. Ever see the movie "Battle in Seattle" you'll see just how organized these groups are, and they talk about how they migrate around to event after event.

The g20 in Toronto was them too, I'm sure of it.

missed that movie, should i check it out? sounds good.
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As for Bettman, yes like all commissioners he gets booed in every arena BUT nothing like the sustained loud booing he got last night.

Get your facts straight you ignorant hosers - Bettman did NOT remove teams from Canada, blame the Canadian owners of the Winnipeg Jets and the Quebec Nordiques for that, they sold their teams. At the time the Canadian dollar was .60 cents USD and players salaries in the NHL are paid in US dollars as well as a lot of their operating costs such as travel and lodging. Winnipeg and Quebec both had small arenas and simply could no longer afford to have NHL franchises. Now that the USD/CDN dollars are at par - Winnipeg is back and Quebec will be back when they get a new arena, if the CDN remains strong versus the USD.
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the g20 riots don't seem that much different than the riots last nite
seems they were labeled *anarchists* too.

1st youtube comment:
[IMG]Why is it always the weirdo, angry teenagers, and emo tools that do these riots. Your failuer at life and ability to not succeed does not give you a right to smash windows!! You are equally the trash and scum of society as any corrupt politician. delta024 1 week ago @delta024 And when they do find monetary success, they will only smash the glass walls of their fragile belief systems, and become the opressers. Like the hippies of the seventies these entitled kids will eventually become what they claim to stand against. PintoPonyProductions 1 week ago 10 @delta024 agent provocateurs dumbass sheeple[/IMG]
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the g20 riots don't seem that much different than the riots last nite
seems they were labeled *anarchists* too.

1st youtube comment:
[IMG]Why is it always the weirdo, angry teenagers, and emo tools that do these riots. Your failuer at life and ability to not succeed does not give you a right to smash windows!! You are equally the trash and scum of society as any corrupt politician. delta024 1 week ago @delta024 And when they do find monetary success, they will only smash the glass walls of their fragile belief systems, and become the opressers. Like the hippies of the seventies these entitled kids will eventually become what they claim to stand against. PintoPonyProductions 1 week ago 10 @delta024 agent provocateurs dumbass sheeple[/IMG]
Couldn't agree more with that quote
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