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DatingGameExpert · 07-21-2011, 07:59 PM

So I got this just now from HostGator:

Hello,

I apologize, but I was forced to suspend the site xxxxxxxxxxxxx.com as the sheer number of requests to this script overloaded Apache, causing issues for the rest of the sites on the server.

Please be aware that this is not a CPU issue, but a traffic issue. The traffic incoming to this domain is causing Apache to become overloaded with requests, causing other sites on this server to load very slow, and the load to climb on the server.

Unfortunately I do not have any specific recommendations for this script, however, in general, you would need to find a way to lower the amount of requests for this domain. We do not believe this to be an attack, as there are no patterns to the traffic.

This might also be the right time to upgrade your account to a VPS or a dedicated solution, as your site may have simply outgrown our shared environment.

35,000+ hits in two hours and 150,000+ page views. Whoops, I've only been with them for a day.

That was me just messing around, the real traffic would be much higher. So it looks like I will need to go dedicated.

Host Gator seems okay, but are there any other good ones out there. Cost and speed are a factor for me, obviously. I am expecting a high amount of traffic, but nothing like College Humour or the big sites.

Anyone know of reliable good dedicated servers or could I get away with something like a VPS thing? Like so: http://www.hostgator.com/vps-hosting/

mfeat50 · 07-21-2011, 08:02 PM

Once you pay >$25K a month in server cost then it's time to buy your own equipment and have someone manage your setup. Until that day, rackspace will do nicely.

Something to consider... putting it in the cloud, you only pay for usage and it scales very very well ;)

DatingGameExpert · 07-21-2011, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfeat50

Once you pay >$25K a month in server cost then it's time to buy your own equipment and have someone manage your setup. Until that day, rackspace will do nicely.

Something to consider... putting it in the cloud, you only pay for usage and it scales very very well ;)

Thanks, I don't think I'm quite ready to do that just yet. I'm just looking for a $150-200 a month type thing here.

pumpercloggs · 07-21-2011, 08:14 PM

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DatingGameExpert · 07-21-2011, 08:20 PM

Bump.......

CYF · 07-21-2011, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pumpercloggs

securedservers.com FTW!

hit me up if you need help managing it 349588486

SecuredServers rocks

coupons for SecuredServers in my sig, they're good until 7/31.

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96ukssob · 07-21-2011, 08:23 PM

dedicated

i have 3 and havent looked back. much nicer when it comes to running your own setups and having easy backups available

DatingGameExpert · 07-21-2011, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CYF

SecuredServers rocks

coupons for SecuredServers in my sig, they're good until 7/31.

If you're looking for managed servers, check out Amerinoc and CertifiedHosting

What's the difference between non-managed and managed servers?

harvey · 07-21-2011, 08:36 PM

Amerinoc is an excellent choice for both VPS and dedicated and they have a pretty good price if you pay quarterly. I have 2 VPS with them which we use mainly to test scripts and we use to bang the server to see how much the server can handle and never found any problem while working on a 20-25k visitors a day range, so they probably will be able to handle more.

This being said, I really doubt you'll find a VPS server that can handle around 500k unique visitors a day and work efficiently, you'll really need a dedicated server, specially if you're using scripts

On the other side, Hostgator isn't as good with VPS (and it's pretty expensive for VPS) but has some nice dedicated boxes, not as good as Amerinoc but they're cheaper

harvey · 07-21-2011, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DatingGameExpert

What's the difference between non-managed and managed servers?

if you don't know about servers or you don't want to pay someone, you need a managed server (eg: a Sys Admin ). If you're asking this question, I'm pretty sure you need a managed server. Either way, it's a good idea to get a managed server yet with a control panel for fast things like adding domains, check stats and such

PornStarToys · 07-21-2011, 08:39 PM

Dedicado!

CYF · 07-21-2011, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DatingGameExpert

What's the difference between non-managed and managed servers?

For a self-managed server, you are the person setting up apache, configuring the nameserver, setting up the email system, adding domains, securing the server, setting up new websites.

For a managed server, the hosting company does all of that for you. You can email them or file a ticket and say "hey I got a new domain name, here are the website files, please add it" and they will do it for you.

raymor · 07-21-2011, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harvey

If you're asking this question, I'm pretty sure you need a managed server.

QFT. 90% of the people who decide they'll save a few pennies by leaving their business in the hands of luck rather than a qualified sysadmin will one day regret it. Amerinoc and others provide expert service at very low prices. Even our concierge service doesn't cost that much.

The OP hasn't posted nearly enough information to be able to provide solid guidance on what type if server would be appropriate. I can make a comment on VPS in general. Although in theory VPS can provide more efficient use of resources, it's very hard to know what you're getting. The limiting factor for most severs in disk io since disks are a thousand times slower than any other part of the server. How many VPS provides specify how many iops you get, or any other useful information about the resources other than drive space and network bandwidth?

Partly for that reason, we do VPS as a "half server". The webmaster gets all of the hardware specs just like you would with a dedicated server, and you share that hardware with exactly one other webmaster.

criticaldotnet · 07-21-2011, 09:57 PM

Hey,

There are more details needed to get you exactly what is required for your needs. Weither you need a vps or dedicated server you should take a chance and send us an email and we can talk about the best solution to meet your budget.

Our team will help set everything up for you and provide a managed environment. Also i'd like to offer you 50% off your first month if you decide to move over to us.

Contact info is in sig.

Have a.nice day.

HostGladiator · 07-21-2011, 10:02 PM

We can set you up with a server in that price range. Take a look here for what we can offer.

facialfreak · 07-21-2011, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harvey

(snip ..) I really doubt you'll find a VPS server that can handle around 500k unique visitors a day and work efficiently, you'll really need a dedicated server, specially if you're using scripts

This is not entirely true ...

Many companies offering VPS solutions, only offer a couple configurations, and use VPS to bridge the gap between shared hosting and dedicated hosting, but a VPS server can do so much more, and sites that have a high disk I/O (input/output or "read/write" in laymen's terms) can greatly benefit from a VPS configuration over a dedicated server.

We offer VPS plans with Intel Sandy Ridge Quad Core processors, and up to 8192MB of burst RAM (4096MB guaranteed), 160GB of storage (six disk RAID-10). and 10Mbps bandwidth. For as low as $135.99 per month*, you would be very hard pressed to find a similar priced dedicated server that would keep up to the performance of this very-well appointed VPS.

http://www.a1websolutions.com/vps.html

We also have 4 other popular VPS configurations below this monster, starting at $29.99 per month.

All of our VPS are six disk RAID-10, fully-managed, and come with DirectAdmin Control Panel for your convenience, as well as One-Click script installers for common scripts such as Wordpress, Drupal, Joomla, PHPBB, and many more!

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mamaliga · 07-22-2011, 12:07 AM

For both of them you may try with no regrets Amerinoc. See my sig.

Chosen · 07-22-2011, 02:57 AM

Dedicated

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stinkyfingers · 07-22-2011, 02:58 AM

dedicated server no hostgator please don't ever say that word again

WebairMetz · 07-22-2011, 08:09 AM

Hello DatingGameExpert,

I will be more than happy to assist you with your dedicated hosting needs. Feel free to contact me directly and I will get you on a plan that suits your needs and requirements.

Regards,

Khesser · 07-22-2011, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DatingGameExpert

What's the difference between non-managed and managed servers?

Hit me up on either ICQ or my email and we'll take great care of you and I'll fill you in on what truly is a "fully managed" solution vs an unmanaged one.

Thanks

JamesChoopa · 07-22-2011, 11:33 AM

DatingGameExpert,

Shoot me a message on ICQ. I'm sure we can put something together for you...

stach14 · 07-22-2011, 12:51 PM

Although not much info has been given, based on what is there I would say go dedicated also. But that is up for discussion as it could be just a higher end VPS without much effort.

Take a look at m3server.com and you can hit me up directly for any questions or solutions to your issue.

Diomed · 07-22-2011, 02:11 PM

I had this EXACT SAME issue once before,

and I did what your about to do.. and upgraded to dedicated. A dedicated I kept for years and never really used.

BUT,

it turns out that the problem was from one of my traffic providers, which was causing the apache to overload with "too many visitors at the exact same time", because the traffic was being dumped all at once due to an error, instead of being pieced out.

I'm not saying that is your problem, but perhaps there is a slight chance it is.

Turns out that I DID NOT need the dedicated server at all, that I just needed to resolve the traffic issue I had loading too many simultaneous users at once.

I'm going to go against the grain here and say VPS should be able to cover it unless it's a really heavy script, as I was pushing 15k uniques an hour with no problem.

mountainmiester · 07-22-2011, 03:07 PM

Have you consider offloading the heavy lifting to a cloud service in a CDN? CDN's are built specifically for this very problem.

Gartner states most companies are leveraging about 10% of the computing resources available them via their own infrastructure (owned and managed infrastructure is not optimized). Therefore there is huge movement to “cloud” infrastructure so you pay for what you use and nothing more. Further lowering cap X costs and costs surrounding the management of infrastructure.

DonX · 07-22-2011, 06:55 PM

Dedicated

critical · 07-23-2011, 02:00 AM

Get a dedicated with us, here is why:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Critic....html?x=0&.v=1

slapass · 07-23-2011, 06:25 AM

Talk to techie media. Based on your questions, they have what you need and you will be less then the numbers you put here. He won't oversell you and they have amazing service. i have been there for years after mucking around with lesser places.

07-21-2011, 07:59 PM	#1
DatingGameExpert Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: UK Posts: 1,089	Dedicated server or vps? So I got this just now from HostGator: Hello, I apologize, but I was forced to suspend the site xxxxxxxxxxxxx.com as the sheer number of requests to this script overloaded Apache, causing issues for the rest of the sites on the server. Please be aware that this is not a CPU issue, but a traffic issue. The traffic incoming to this domain is causing Apache to become overloaded with requests, causing other sites on this server to load very slow, and the load to climb on the server. Unfortunately I do not have any specific recommendations for this script, however, in general, you would need to find a way to lower the amount of requests for this domain. We do not believe this to be an attack, as there are no patterns to the traffic. This might also be the right time to upgrade your account to a VPS or a dedicated solution, as your site may have simply outgrown our shared environment. 35,000+ hits in two hours and 150,000+ page views. Whoops, I've only been with them for a day. That was me just messing around, the real traffic would be much higher. So it looks like I will need to go dedicated. Host Gator seems okay, but are there any other good ones out there. Cost and speed are a factor for me, obviously. I am expecting a high amount of traffic, but nothing like College Humour or the big sites. Anyone know of reliable good dedicated servers or could I get away with something like a VPS thing? Like so: http://www.hostgator.com/vps-hosting/ Last edited by DatingGameExpert; 07-21-2011 at 08:00 PM..

07-21-2011, 08:14 PM	#4
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07-21-2011, 08:23 PM	#7
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07-21-2011, 08:36 PM	#9
harvey Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 9,266	Amerinoc is an excellent choice for both VPS and dedicated and they have a pretty good price if you pay quarterly. I have 2 VPS with them which we use mainly to test scripts and we use to bang the server to see how much the server can handle and never found any problem while working on a 20-25k visitors a day range, so they probably will be able to handle more. This being said, I really doubt you'll find a VPS server that can handle around 500k unique visitors a day and work efficiently, you'll really need a dedicated server, specially if you're using scripts On the other side, Hostgator isn't as good with VPS (and it's pretty expensive for VPS) but has some nice dedicated boxes, not as good as Amerinoc but they're cheaper __________________ This post is endorsed by CIA, KGB, MI6, the Mafia, Illuminati, Kim Jong Il, Worldwide Ninjas Association, Klingon Empire and lolcats. Don't mess around with it, just accept it and embrace the truth

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07-21-2011, 08:02 PM	#2
mfeat50 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 40	Once you pay >$25K a month in server cost then it's time to buy your own equipment and have someone manage your setup. Until that day, rackspace will do nicely. Something to consider... putting it in the cloud, you only pay for usage and it scales very very well ;)

07-21-2011, 08:20 PM	#5
DatingGameExpert Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: UK Posts: 1,089	Bump.......

07-21-2011, 09:57 PM	#14
criticaldotnet Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 100	Hey, There are more details needed to get you exactly what is required for your needs. Weither you need a vps or dedicated server you should take a chance and send us an email and we can talk about the best solution to meet your budget. Our team will help set everything up for you and provide a managed environment. Also i'd like to offer you 50% off your first month if you decide to move over to us. Contact info is in sig. Have a.nice day. __________________ Critical Data Network www.critical.net sales [at] critical [dot] net

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07-22-2011, 12:07 AM	#17
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07-22-2011, 02:57 AM	#18
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07-22-2011, 08:09 AM	#20
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07-22-2011, 11:33 AM	#22
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07-22-2011, 12:51 PM	#23
stach14 M3Server.com Industry Role: Join Date: May 2011 Location: Washington Posts: 667	Although not much info has been given, based on what is there I would say go dedicated also. But that is up for discussion as it could be just a higher end VPS without much effort. Take a look at m3server.com and you can hit me up directly for any questions or solutions to your issue. __________________ M3Server - Celebrating 25 years of hosting Proud Sponsor of GFY.com Fully Managed Virtual & Dedicated Servers Chris Stach - [email protected] Skype: chris.stach14 https://www.m3server.com

07-22-2011, 02:11 PM	#24
Diomed Converting like it's 1999 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The South Posts: 6,165	I had this EXACT SAME issue once before, and I did what your about to do.. and upgraded to dedicated. A dedicated I kept for years and never really used. BUT, it turns out that the problem was from one of my traffic providers, which was causing the apache to overload with "too many visitors at the exact same time", because the traffic was being dumped all at once due to an error, instead of being pieced out. I'm not saying that is your problem, but perhaps there is a slight chance it is. Turns out that I DID NOT need the dedicated server at all, that I just needed to resolve the traffic issue I had loading too many simultaneous users at once. I'm going to go against the grain here and say VPS should be able to cover it unless it's a really heavy script, as I was pushing 15k uniques an hour with no problem. __________________ 10 years of experience in: CHAT SALES - PAID TRAFFIC - CONVERSION - CREATIVES - CONSULTATION Last edited by Diomed; 07-22-2011 at 02:21 PM..

07-22-2011, 03:07 PM	#25
mountainmiester Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Arizona Posts: 509	Have you consider offloading the heavy lifting to a cloud service in a CDN? CDN's are built specifically for this very problem. Gartner states most companies are leveraging about 10% of the computing resources available them via their own infrastructure (owned and managed infrastructure is not optimized). Therefore there is huge movement to “cloud” infrastructure so you pay for what you use and nothing more. Further lowering cap X costs and costs surrounding the management of infrastructure. __________________ Randall Crockett LIMELIGHT NETWORKS [email protected] Last edited by mountainmiester; 07-22-2011 at 03:09 PM..

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07-23-2011, 02:00 AM	#27
critical Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 478	Get a dedicated with us, here is why: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Critic....html?x=0&.v=1

07-23-2011, 06:25 AM	#28
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,627	Talk to techie media. Based on your questions, they have what you need and you will be less then the numbers you put here. He won't oversell you and they have amazing service. i have been there for years after mucking around with lesser places.