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DWB · 09-09-2011, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

I think I'm in love.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-09-2011, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB

I think I'm in love.

Take a number...apparently Tanner is quite popular (I don't follow white girls much, lol):

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2009 CAVR Award nominee ? Newbie of the Year
2010 XBIZ Award winner ? Best New Starlet of the Year (People's Choice)
2010 XBIZ Award nominee ? New Starlet of the Year
2010 VOD Award winner ? New Starlet
2010 XRCO Award nominee ? New Starlet
2010 XRCO Award nominee ? Cream Dream
2010 AVN Award nominee ? Best New Starlet
2010 AVN Award nominee ? Best All-Girl Group Sex Scene
2011 AVN Award nominee ? Best Tease Performance
2011 AVN Award nominee ? Best Three-Way Sex Scene (G/B/B)

Cute girl. Hopefully she has recovered from her substance abuse/alcohol addiction issues...

ADG

Paul Markham · 09-09-2011, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

God you are a moron and know absolutely nothing about traffic. First of all talking about "traffic" in general is just plain retarded without knowing the quality of the traffic. For you to say "getting the 100,000s needed to make decent living is the problem" is par for the course for you. It's not hard to get 100K hits and you can still make shit from it if the traffic sucks.

Your original quote saying traffic is not king is bullshit. Traffic is king, but it's quality traffic, not trash traffic.

Your comments here saying if you can get 100K's of traffic you can make a living is more bullshit, if the that traffic sucks you aint making dick.

Stick to shooting content and talk about stuff that you at least know a little bit about.

Sadly someone who still can't see the obvious. What's quality traffic? Something that converts 1-50?

That's your problem and everyone else's. They convert at a level I think is crap and they think is great. Warchild actually boasted he could convert 1-500 of people he sent to a site from a Tube. Shut up very very fast when I pointed out that it was traffic he sent and asked how many did he need to send 500.

So how many do you need to send 50, to get a single sign up?

How many of these surfers can you get a day and at what cost?

And what was it 10 years ago and 5 and 3 years ago?

And what will it be in 5 years from now?

If the content were real quality you would need far less traffic to convert, good or bad traffic it would still take less. The problem is fewer and fewer sites have quality content on them. Something that stands out and convinces more than 1-50 to get out their credit card. Then when the member is in the site, how long he stays depends on how long the site keeps his interest. Send quality traffic to a sit with medium quality porn and you lose money.

Finding a site with real quality content that the customer isn't already well aware of is getting harder by the day.

But no worries, keep generating more traffic, while less join.

CamTraffic · 09-09-2011, 04:16 AM

There are always two sides to every story

Paul Markham · 09-09-2011, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

I've never met Johnny Thrust, so after reading the negative comments about him in this thread, I was curious to know who this guy is that Brazzers / Manwin hires, instructs, and entrusts to direct movies for them.

I thought maybe Thrust was a noob considering the comedy of errors on his set for Brazzers / Manwin.

A Google search brought up two performers named Johnny Thrust.

One is a gay performer, and the other straight, so I am assuming that the straight Johnny Thrust is the one that Brazzers / Manwin employed:

Johnny Thrust

I know that I have seen this guy in some video scenes before, although nothing memorable about his performances stands out.

When I looked at his bio, it indicated that Johnny Thrust has been in the adult industry since 1995 (15+ years), working in hundreds of scenes as a performer, PA, and occasionally as a Director, making it even more inexplicable that he would expose himself and possibly Brazzers / Manwin to liability due to gross negligence.

However, after reading more about Johnny Thrust online, I am honestly surprised that Brazzers / Manwin would hire him as a Director in the first place - he comes off badly in the infamous Tanner Mayes BTS meltdown video, demonstrating a level of unprofessionalism that I have rarely seen before (the performer's condition and attitude notwithstanding):

The problem lies in an industry that lets a girl get away with that attitude, UID and drinking on set. And in an industry that has shooters with such a poor man management skills.

IMO the girl not the shooter should be working.

However with the industries model of churning out cheap scenes in abundant numbers we get low level skills, producers and performers. All that matters is getting the scene in the can and onto the next one.

Maybe with such a low level product the only way to sell it it to throw masses of traffic at it in the hope a few will sign up. It's not marketing and for sure it's not selling. It's stacking the shelves in the street and hoping a few will buy something, instead of just taking it.

And that's what Will and Roald don't see. I see the losses we created.

Nathan · 09-09-2011, 05:13 AM

JHC, I am humble to people I know and actually like... to people that try to constantly blame me for everything under the sun and drag my name through the mud, not so much... Why should I be humble to them? Just because I should be always nice to everyone?

Give me a break.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-09-2011, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

If I had to pick 3 people that contributed to my internet success that brought me to where I am today, it would be PK, GoGo, and Daniel Sudden. Too bad about Sudden and if he wasn't wanted by US authorities and needed help, even after all these years, I'd wire him $10k today.

Anyway, those three have made a boatload of money over the years and got humble, Fabian, not so much.

I think you mean Daniel Sundin, if so, Interpol is looking for him too:

Here is the Interpol Wanted Notice

Funny you should mention Daniel in the same sentence as Fabian (and you apparently think higher of Daniel, the fugitive outlaw, than Fabian). There are some interesting stories out there about Fabian Thylmann and his connections to Bjorn Daniel Sundin...

ADG

Nikki_Licks · 09-09-2011, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

Nathan: I think it's your TONE that people are having issues with here.

I tend to agree with your statement. I do not know this person, but the comments seem to lack concern with a bit of arrogance tossed in.

Qbert · 09-09-2011, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

JHC, I am humble to people I know and actually like...

A person is either humble or they aren't. It's not a matter of who they're interacting with.

But, that concept is consistent with the other compartmentalizing that you do. Humble in case A, but not in case B. Ethical in case A, but not in case B. I guess that's how you rationalize/justify to yourself the things you and your company do.

Oh, and that brings up another related issue. Legal and ethical are not the same thing.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-09-2011, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks

I tend to agree with your statement. I do not know this person, but the comments seem to lack concern with a bit of arrogance tossed in.

Some people have issues with Fabian Thylmann's ethics and actions too, like supporting Pirate Bay.

ADG

Nikki_Licks · 09-09-2011, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Some people have issues with Fabian Thylmann's ethics and actions too, like supporting Pirate Bay.

ADG

Did not know that about him

If that is true, then he is just another POS, in my opinion......

GonZo · 09-09-2011, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

That's some brutal shit right there, man. I remember when Gogo's biggest quest in life was to buy a camaro, now he could easily buy a few dealerships if he wanted. After I bailed in porn in 2002 and went mainstream, Gogo sold me a SE tool that really made a difference, plus he always checked in from time to time to see how I was doing.

If I had to pick 3 people that contributed to my internet success that brought me to where I am today, it would be PK, GoGo, and Daniel Sudden. Too bad about Sudden and if he wasn't wanted by US authorities and needed help, even after all these years, I'd wire him $10k today.

Anyway, those three have made a boatload of money over the years and got humble, Fabian, not so much.

Gogo certainly has risen well above his ambition. Who would have thunk it eh?
I finally met him in person in Atlanta at one of the webmaster access years ago.
He had just begun to work on this thing called NATS.

I met PK a few years later in Vegas who certainly did make a bundle with a simple link list. She still controls a lot of legitimate quality traffic. Still no easy task these days regardless of what some aging moron keeps screaming about.

Sudden as he used to call himself on Oprano - well none of us met him because he was busy running from the law. No admiration from me for that guy. Scareware isnt very innovative marketing. Loading code to make someones CD tray pop out and requiring a ransom for it to be removed from the machine is weak.

Looks like its landed him in a 3rd world country with his assets frozen.

The only other guy I never met was mad scientist Robin Nixon.
I saw he had a video tutorial on appsumo the other day along with his book on PHP.

I think he would still be content to run his bed and breakfast inn if the truth be known.

Like .xxx though I think the other shoe with Manwin and accomplices has yet to be dropped. Youd think Fabian would have learned from RB about a low profile after being slapped by the Feds.

As I said before though... hes still not very good at this.

Nathan · 09-09-2011, 06:41 AM

JSH, you are probably right. I guess the subject ticked me off a bit since I learned about it through the MikeSouth post myself (since usually these kind of things do not get to myself), and it pissed me off enough to complain about it to my VP of Production the same day.
I was informed that not only was she warned to move away from the tail pipe multiple times but would not listen, she also, as you said, continued to shoot after it happened.

The half-truth posted here and then from someone like ADG who loves posting anything that seems bad towards us, even when he perfectly well knows its not true or is missing considerable amounts of information, ticked me off I guess....

I will admit that flaw in myself, I do get upset about certain things and react badly sometimes. I do however not see a reason why I should not post on this board, just because I am successful. I like many of the people here and many of them I would call my friends. I also enjoy a good debate, which is why I actually like debating subjects with someone like Robbie that actually at least has a clue about what he is talking about.

Qbert, I did not know that being humble implies being humble to every person on the planet. And I honestly disagree with your opinion.

Anyway, one thing you can count on is that when I do feel I made a mistake, I will publicly admit it. And yes, I agree that this thread was badly handled by myself and I should have taken a step back.

Nathan · 09-09-2011, 06:44 AM

Gonzo, if I would actually ever have been slapped by any Feds, maybe I would learn about a low profile... Considering that I have not, and that there is no reason for me being slapped any time in the future that I can see, I guess I am ok with not hiding...

And yes, I CLEARLY suck at what I do...

Typical Gonzo...

theking · 09-09-2011, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

JSH, you are probably right. I guess the subject ticked me off a bit since I learned about it through the MikeSouth post myself (since usually these kind of things do not get to myself), and it pissed me off enough to complain about it to my VP of Production the same day.
I was informed that not only was she warned to move away from the tail pipe multiple times but would not listen, she also, as you said, continued to shoot after it happened.

The half-truth posted here and then from someone like ADG who loves posting anything that seems bad towards us, even when he perfectly well knows its not true or is missing considerable amounts of information, ticked me off I guess....

I will admit that flaw in myself, I do get upset about certain things and react badly sometimes. I do however not see a reason why I should not post on this board, just because I am successful. I like many of the people here and many of them I would call my friends. I also enjoy a good debate, which is why I actually like debating subjects with someone like Robbie that actually at least has a clue about what he is talking about.

Qbert, I did not know that being humble implies being humble to every person on the planet. And I honestly disagree with your opinion.

Anyway, one thing you can count on is that when I do feel I made a mistake, I will publicly admit it. And yes, I agree that this thread was badly handled by myself and I should have taken a step back.

If I were you...I would be showing the posts made by ADG about you and your company to your attorney...and tell the attorney to nail him when he thinks he can...but you probably already do this.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-09-2011, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

It's interesting you mentioned this because recently I consolidated all my old HD's I've kept around for the last 16 years. I came across some old IM's and emails I had with Sudden over decade ago. I'm not defending him, but he was a bit susceptible/naive back then, with a lot of natural talent.

There's always 3 sides to a story... yours, theirs, and the truth. I'd be willing to bet he was set up to be the patsy from the start. I do remember a long phone conversation we had when he knew I had a lot of contacts for content in the Valley. He then wanted me to call his "partner" in SF and set up an arrangement.

After 20 minutes with the guy on the phone, I hung up on him and called Sudden back and warned him he needs to keep his distance from this guy. Back then everyone was a pirate in one way or another, so one pirate pointing the finger calling out another, fell silent.

Anyway, after looking at my ICQ logs I found out the guy I called, was the dude Sudden got busted with.

The unfortunate thing is that many of the people involved with scamware, money-laundering, or other illegal activities (think Pirate Bay), do have natural talent, but some of them are pretty young, and when their ethical and moral compasses are defective, they can get seduced by what seems like easy money (sometimes lots of it).

Once they get caught up in it, it's hard to extricate themselves, especially when they hook up with criminal types, since bad guys know how to suck in and control people - it's what they do. Before long the naive that get sucked into the dark side are making rationalizations to justify their unethical/illegal activities.

Sometimes people like your pal Daniel and others who go down that path, have to learn the hard way, that if you lay down with dogs, you wake up with fleas.

ADG

RycEric · 09-09-2011, 08:42 AM

Fuck Manwin.

JP-pornshooter · 09-09-2011, 10:06 AM

LOL
i think Nathan comes to this board to take a break from real business issues, kick back a little and amuse himself over all the tards trying to verbally take him down.
Friends or Foe, you need to mingle with them..

Nathan · 09-09-2011, 10:07 AM

JHC, uhm.. Lol. You are entertaining! Keep up the good job.

DWB · 09-09-2011, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

In short, you could single handily create a cure for cancer, and you'd still be known as the arrogant content thieving ass who cured cancer.

What's that old saying... You can build a thousand bridges, but if you suck one cock, they don't call you a bridge builder, they call you a cocksucker.

sextoyking · 09-09-2011, 11:25 AM

Gonzo,

Robin was cool beans

Oprano did rock hard in the day.....

Tjeezers · 09-09-2011, 11:40 AM

this all over a tailpipe
wow... gfy all over

The Porn Nerd · 09-09-2011, 11:48 AM

Nathan: I will be in Berlin from Sept.27-Oct.1, then I am off to Prague for two weeks of shooting. It would be interesting to fly to Hamburg to meet you if you are around that first week of October? Will send you an email, too.

seeric · 09-09-2011, 03:45 PM

What happens on this site affects anyone's business 0.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-09-2011, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by seeric

What happens on this site affects anyone's business 0.

Sure A1R3k, I remember when you used to like to fight the good fight...

And what about advertising on Pirate Bay? How does Manwin ethically justify helping to fund and support what is universally recognized as one of the worst content theft syndicates on the net?

Fabian Thylmann pathetically whines that people are picking on poor little Nathan, as if he is the victim, and he apparently can't (or rather, doesn't want to) understand why anyone would be upset with an adult company advertising on a site like Pirate Bay whose existence is pretty much built upon content theft/piracy.

Thieves often don't respond honestly, they obfuscate, which may be why Fabian is so afraid to discuss anything remotely connected to business ethics, since he probably knows in his heart that he doesn't have a moral or ethical defense for what he knows is fundamentally ethically and morally wrong (setting aside his legal hair-splitting for the moment).

Supporting Pirate Bay invalidates Fabian Thylmann's claims that Manwin is trying to reform the former Mansef (which btw, implicitly acknowledges that he knows that what their tube sites were doing was wrong).

What it looks like to some observers, is that Mawin is co-opting people along the way, getting programs to submit content to Manwin's tube sites (kinda like paying a protection racket insurance to make sure that "nothing bad happens" to their content), while Manwin gets commissions from sales and advertising revenue, and simultaneously eliminates potential adversaries (that is how co-opting works).

Meanwhile, the whole time, Manwin has been quietly executing a plan to outsource the worst of their piracy activities to piracy partners such as the criminals at Pirate Bay.

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"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)

ADG

GonZo · 09-09-2011, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sextoyking

Gonzo,

Robin was cool beans

Oprano did rock hard in the day.....

I had the chance to talk to him once and enjoyed the conversation.
Very smart man.

Yes Todd..... we used to call out every shitstain in this business years ago.
These days it doesnt seem to matter.

Keep fighting the good fight.

seeric · 09-09-2011, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Sure A1R3k, I remember when you used to like to fight the good fight...

And what about advertising on Pirate Bay? How does Manwin ethically justify helping to fund and support what is universally recognized as one of the worst content theft syndicates on the net?

Fabian Thylmann pathetically whines that people are picking on poor little Nathan, as if he is the victim, and he apparently can't (or rather, doesn't want to) understand why anyone would be upset with an adult company advertising on a site like Pirate Bay whose existence is pretty much built upon content theft/piracy.

Thieves often don't respond honestly, they obfuscate, which may be why Fabian is so afraid to discuss anything remotely connected to business ethics, since he probably knows in his heart that he doesn't have a moral or ethical defense for what he knows is fundamentally ethically and morally wrong (setting aside his legal hair-splitting for the moment).

Supporting Pirate Bay invalidates Fabian Thylmann's claims that Manwin is trying to reform the former Mansef (which btw, implicitly acknowledges that he knows that what their tube sites were doing was wrong).

What it looks like to some observers, is that Mawin is co-opting people along the way, getting programs to submit content to Manwin's tube sites (kinda like paying a protection racket insurance to make sure that "nothing bad happens" to their content), while Manwin gets commissions from sales and advertising revenue, and simultaneously eliminates potential adversaries (that is how co-opting works).

Meanwhile, the whole time, Manwin has been quietly executing a plan to outsource the worst of their piracy activities to piracy partners such as the criminals at Pirate Bay.

ADG

Yup. And all of that time was completely wasted. Could have spent that time doing constructive shit!

Like DWB says "You cannot flunk out of porn".

I gave up on trying to show people who was scum and who was holy.

Anti Piracy - Was like trying to herd cats that were high.
.XXX - See statement above.

You can't organize renegades.

I'm much happier and so is my bank account. Still trying to come up with a way to sell my nick for enough money to make all the time I spent posting worthwhile and worthless shit alike.

Lol.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-09-2011, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by seeric

Yup. And all of that time was completely wasted. Could have spent that time doing constructive shit!

Like DWB says "You cannot flunk out of porn".

I gave up on trying to show people who was scum and who was holy.

Anti Piracy - Was like trying to herd cats that were high.
.XXX - See statement above.

You can't organize renegades.

I'm much happier and so is my bank account. Still trying to come up with a way to sell my nick for enough money to make all the time I spent posting worthwhile and worthless shit alike.

Lol.

Fucking sell-out pussy!!!

Meeooowwww...

Nah, I hear you dude. I know it's a lot easier to keep your mouth shut, and if ethics are unimportant to you, to cash in by sucking up to companies that put profits before people (some to the point of illegal activities). NOTE: Not referring to you - it's a general comment.

I chose when I started into adult to be as independent as possible. As such, after over 10 years in the industry, I am still a one-person operation (although I employ numerous independent contractors on a project-by-project basis).

Since I am neither a sponsor or affiliate, I don't feel fettered, and so I generally speak my mind pretty freely. I consider myself a renegade and an organizer.

Also, I take a holistic approach to life, so trying to do what I think is ethical is ingrained in me. Another important thing to understanding what makes me tick, is that the humanist in me makes me want to "get involved" with whatever I am doing for the betterment of the community.

I view content theft/piracy, and the insidious infiltration of criminal elements into our legal business, as the greatest threats facing our industry today. Therefore, it would be wrong and out of character for me to not speak out about these issues, even if it subjects me to ridicule by some who like the status quo, or want to defend the criminals.

It takes time, and it's difficult to change hearts and minds, or influence behavior. For me it's a lifetime journey. Believe me, I don't think I have all the answers or that I am morally superior to anyone - I spend way more time soul-searching and trying to better myself than I do speaking out on issues.

Honestly, I enjoy working, spending time with my wife, playing my guitar, playing tennis, and posting pictures on GFY in my spare time, w-a-y more than debating business ethics and such, however, I find my time to have been more constructively spent on GFY if I occasionally comment on issues relevant to our industry, instead of just goofing around for shits and giggles or brown-nosing people all the time (not that there is anything wrong with a little R 'n R after a long day of slinging porn).

I actually have learned a great deal over my years here on GFY, and built some fantastic business and personal relationships. That's what makes it all still worth doing to me.

Despite my outspoken stands on issues which I feel passionate about, I don't see that it has ever cost me any business that I wanted to conduct. In fact, my reputation on GFY has aided me in developing new business opportunities.

Anyway, let me know if you ever get up this way and want to cuddle amigo...

ADG

seeric · 09-10-2011, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Fucking sell-out pussy!!!

Meeooowwww...

Nah, I hear you dude. I know it's a lot easier to keep your mouth shut, and if ethics are unimportant to you, to cash in by sucking up to companies that put profits before people (some to the point of illegal activities). NOTE: Not referring to you - it's a general comment.

I chose when I started into adult to be as independent as possible. As such, after over 10 years in the industry, I am still a one-person operation (although I employ numerous independent contractors on a project-by-project basis).

Since I am neither a sponsor or affiliate, I don't feel fettered, and so I generally speak my mind pretty freely. I consider myself a renegade and an organizer.

Also, I take a holistic approach to life, so trying to do what I think is ethical is ingrained in me. Another important thing to understanding what makes me tick, is that the humanist in me makes me want to "get involved" with whatever I am doing for the betterment of the community.

I view content theft/piracy, and the insidious infiltration of criminal elements into our legal business, as the greatest threats facing our industry today. Therefore, it would be wrong and out of character for me to not speak out about these issues, even if it subjects me to ridicule by some who like the status quo, or want to defend the criminals.

It takes time, and it's difficult to change hearts and minds, or influence behavior. For me it's a lifetime journey. Believe me, I don't think I have all the answers or that I am morally superior to anyone - I spend way more time soul-searching and trying to better myself than I do speaking out on issues.

Honestly, I enjoy working, spending time with my wife, playing my guitar, playing tennis, and posting pictures on GFY in my spare time, w-a-y more than debating business ethics and such, however, I find my time to have been more constructively spent on GFY if I occasionally comment on issues relevant to our industry, instead of just goofing around for shits and giggles or brown-nosing people all the time (not that there is anything wrong with a little R 'n R after a long day of slinging porn).

I actually have learned a great deal over my years here on GFY, and built some fantastic business and personal relationships. That's what makes it all still worth doing to me.

Despite my outspoken stands on issues which I feel passionate about, I don't see that it has ever cost me any business that I wanted to conduct. In fact, my reputation on GFY has aided me in developing new business opportunities.

Anyway, let me know if you ever get up this way and want to cuddle amigo...

ADG

No doubt. I will happily live vicariously through you.

We will be up your way in November for Cirque Du Soleil!

Let's do this!

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-10-2011, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by seeric

No doubt. I will happily live vicariously through you.

We will be up your way in November for Cirque Du Soleil!

Let's do this!

I've been seeing ads for "Totem", it looks great (I love Cirque Du Soleil, I catch at least one show almost every time that I'm in Las Vegas):

Let me know what night you want to go, and how many people will be attending (you + x), and I'll pick up some tix. We can make a night of it if you want (dinner, etc).

ADG

Roald · 09-10-2011, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

And that's what Will and Roald don't see. I see the losses we created.

dont write non sense Paul, I see the losses we created. I just dont go on and on about it. Thats why I and many others ridicule you

CamTraffic · 09-10-2011, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by GonZo

It apparently impressed GoGo....
Got to hand it to him though it is impressive when you think about it.

In my opinion theres no better place to work prior to Manwin than one that has access to everyones entire business plan.
Again in my opinion .... when you think about it - its genius... before you hatch a plan to swipe content and profit on it you first learn your competitors monthly income, best traffic sources and hell their best customers.

In my opinion that would allow you to know who to take from both as in whats the most profitable as well as who would have the income to put up a legal defense.

interesting.

seeric · 09-10-2011, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

I've been seeing ads for "Totem", it looks great (I love Cirque Du Soleil, I catch at least one show almost every time that I'm in Las Vegas):

Let me know what night you want to go, and how many people will be attending (you + x), and I'll pick up some tix. We can make a night of it if you want (dinner, etc).

ADG

Yes, we see all of them too! Fantastic shows.

We already have tickets. Had to buy them almost a year ago for the Tapis Rouge.

Evan and his lady may be interested too.

Just me and my girl are coming. Haven't decided exactly where to have dinner yet, but sounds like a plan.

Our tickets to Cirque are for the 12th of Nov.

porno jew · 09-10-2011, 10:37 AM

adg has developed gfy-whiteknightus where a previously normal poster develops a strange obsession with trying to "save" the porn internet community by maniacally obsessing about some issue which in the end, means nothing and changes nothing.

Robbie · 09-10-2011, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Todays unethical practices are tomorrows cutting edge marketing advantages.

Second, true public opinion on this forum is biased when it comes to the current cool kid rotation. At times, it's so hypocritical all you can do is laugh at the finger pointers.

Your entire post is true. And these two main points you made apply to every business out there (not just adult)

My grandfather owned a huge citrus business in Florida from the time I was born until the day he died (last year at age 90), my dad became his partner, my middle brother is a fishing captain on the west coast of Fla., and my youngest brother owns a car lot...and of course I own my porn "empire".

So all the men in my family have owned their own businesses so I hear all the "war stories". And you know what? Every damn one of those businesses are highly competitive and are actually WORSE than adult when it comes to pulling unethical shit and screwing everybody else over. lol

I guess it's just human nature.

porno jew · 09-10-2011, 11:02 AM

adapt or die.

Radishdreams · 09-22-2011, 09:15 PM

hahaha good Read!

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Sure A1R3k, I remember when you used to like to fight the good fight...

And what about advertising on Pirate Bay? How does Manwin ethically justify helping to fund and support what is universally recognized as one of the worst content theft syndicates on the net?

Fabian Thylmann pathetically whines that people are picking on poor little Nathan, as if he is the victim, and he apparently can't (or rather, doesn't want to) understand why anyone would be upset with an adult company advertising on a site like Pirate Bay whose existence is pretty much built upon content theft/piracy.

Thieves often don't respond honestly, they obfuscate, which may be why Fabian is so afraid to discuss anything remotely connected to business ethics, since he probably knows in his heart that he doesn't have a moral or ethical defense for what he knows is fundamentally ethically and morally wrong (setting aside his legal hair-splitting for the moment).

Supporting Pirate Bay invalidates Fabian Thylmann's claims that Manwin is trying to reform the former Mansef (which btw, implicitly acknowledges that he knows that what their tube sites were doing was wrong).

What it looks like to some observers, is that Mawin is co-opting people along the way, getting programs to submit content to Manwin's tube sites (kinda like paying a protection racket insurance to make sure that "nothing bad happens" to their content), while Manwin gets commissions from sales and advertising revenue, and simultaneously eliminates potential adversaries (that is how co-opting works).

Meanwhile, the whole time, Manwin has been quietly executing a plan to outsource the worst of their piracy activities to piracy partners such as the criminals at Pirate Bay.

ADG

DWB · 09-22-2011, 10:12 PM

I just burned my mouth on a tail pipe.

shade001 · 09-23-2011, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB

I just burned my mouth on a tail pipe.

I just burned my eyes reading this thread, lol.

The only thing that made reading this thread worth it was that bitchy but hot lil chick whining about her cell phone.

09-09-2011, 04:16 AM	#154
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09-09-2011, 05:13 AM	#156
Nathan Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,108	JHC, I am humble to people I know and actually like... to people that try to constantly blame me for everything under the sun and drag my name through the mud, not so much... Why should I be humble to them? Just because I should be always nice to everyone? Give me a break. __________________ "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right." - Charlie Munger

09-09-2011, 06:41 AM	#163
Nathan Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,108	JSH, you are probably right. I guess the subject ticked me off a bit since I learned about it through the MikeSouth post myself (since usually these kind of things do not get to myself), and it pissed me off enough to complain about it to my VP of Production the same day. I was informed that not only was she warned to move away from the tail pipe multiple times but would not listen, she also, as you said, continued to shoot after it happened. The half-truth posted here and then from someone like ADG who loves posting anything that seems bad towards us, even when he perfectly well knows its not true or is missing considerable amounts of information, ticked me off I guess.... I will admit that flaw in myself, I do get upset about certain things and react badly sometimes. I do however not see a reason why I should not post on this board, just because I am successful. I like many of the people here and many of them I would call my friends. I also enjoy a good debate, which is why I actually like debating subjects with someone like Robbie that actually at least has a clue about what he is talking about. Qbert, I did not know that being humble implies being humble to every person on the planet. And I honestly disagree with your opinion. Anyway, one thing you can count on is that when I do feel I made a mistake, I will publicly admit it. And yes, I agree that this thread was badly handled by myself and I should have taken a step back. __________________ "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right." - Charlie Munger

09-09-2011, 06:44 AM	#164
Nathan Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,108	Gonzo, if I would actually ever have been slapped by any Feds, maybe I would learn about a low profile... Considering that I have not, and that there is no reason for me being slapped any time in the future that I can see, I guess I am ok with not hiding... And yes, I CLEARLY suck at what I do... Typical Gonzo... __________________ "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right." - Charlie Munger

09-09-2011, 10:06 AM	#168
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09-09-2011, 08:42 AM	#167
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09-09-2011, 10:07 AM	#169
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09-09-2011, 11:40 AM	#172
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09-09-2011, 11:48 AM	#173
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09-09-2011, 03:45 PM	#174
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09-10-2011, 11:02 AM	#186
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09-22-2011, 10:12 PM	#188
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	I just burned my mouth on a tail pipe.