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Old 09-23-2011, 05:05 PM   #51
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Old 09-23-2011, 05:07 PM   #52
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I'm still going to buy one dumbass, you're lucky I even noticed your post as I scrolled.

Yes I'm very lucky, your insightful witty reply made my day, thanks.
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Old 09-23-2011, 05:14 PM   #53
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We were then told by the registrar that janeyweb.xxx AND the second domain we were 'interested in' were blocked so they couldn't buy them for us.

ICM confirmed that these domains were on their "Premium List".

This means that they are not available in Sunrise A even though I own the top level domains. They MAY be up for auction in November (but they MAY NOT), or we can wait for Landrush in December if someone else didn't already get them or if the registry actually decide to release them at all!

I don't feel bad for you, but it does suck that you got screwed. At least you were only trying to buy the .xxx version of your .com and not speculating. If you felt tricked into thinking you needed to buy the .xxx of your domain then that is your misguided decision to make.

Obviously if janeyweb is a "premium name" then any name is. No offense, but JaneyWeb isn't exactly premium or sort after. This would mean that ICM lied to everyone yet again (big surprise) just because you own the .com doesn't mean you will have first shot at your domain much less will you pay normal registration fees if you were to actually get it. For all you know they can put it to auction and then have shill bidders drive up the price you would have to pay.

Just think of the people who actually do have good one or two word generic keyword domains, those people are fucked. All of those will go up to auction and will be sold to the highest bidder. What a bunch of lies ICM told everyone.

The icing on the cake is that you pay the "deposit" and then you lose your money when you did everything according to what they were saying. I really hope that fat piece of shit Stuart gets ass rapped by someone over all this bullshit.
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I'm still going to buy one dumbass, you're lucky I even noticed your post as I scrolled.
Actually your dumb ass said you weren't going to buy one without a "guarantee" and I doubt ICM is going to make any exceptions for your 1 domain, dumb cunt.

What domain do you plan on registering btw, Monique.xxx ?
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Sorry to hear about your experiences Janey, and thanks for sharing in an attempt to help others (and get some action on your own behalf).

What I want to know is: why is Stuart Lawley such a prick to the porn world? It's his low self-esteem, right? You would think all those years in front of a mirror, telling himself he's "good enough, smart enough and gosh darn it people like me" would've had some positive effect. I mean, isn't he a Senator now? WTF?
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Obviously if janeyweb is a "premium name" then any name is. No offense, but JaneyWeb isn't exactly premium or sort after.
I would say that JaneyWeb is a premium name due to the branding she has in the UK from magazine appearances etc.

It is a quality amateur brand name. I used to read a few of the magazines that I worked on the shoots for and she was often in them.

Personally I think they realised she is a brand and decided to lie, shove it in a fake auction and see how much money they could squeeze from her.
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Personally I think they realised she is a brand and decided to lie, shove it in a fake auction and see how much money they could squeeze from her.
I agree.

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I would say that JaneyWeb is a premium name due to the branding she has in the UK from magazine appearances etc.

It is a quality amateur brand name. I used to read a few of the magazines that I worked on the shoots for and she was often in them.

Personally I think they realised she is a brand and decided to lie, shove it in a fake auction and see how much money they could squeeze from her.
From looking at her alexa rank (8,977,038) it looks like she gets at most 50 hits a day. Sorry, don't care how much branding she did in UK magazines... Either way, I go back to my first assumption, if "JaneyWeb" is considered Premium then Stuart is going to call just about every domain that is registered for more than a year and has any traffic as "premium". I doubt he referenced the fact that she brands her domain in UK magazines as the reason to put her in the "premium" column as he reviews millions of domains one by one in deciding if they go into the "shit" pile or "premium" pile. In all honestly he can give a fuck if the domain is considered "popular" "Premium" or whatever, its the fact that someone wants it that he is classifying it as premium so he can try to get more money out of them.

Knowing that he did this to "JaneyWeb" is now proof to me that he will do this to everyone. By me saying that I am not knocking JaneyWeb. Just stating a fact that he isn't sorting every .com on the net into premium or not. I thought he would take the top 100 or at most 500 and make them premium. However if he has made it down to domains like JaneyWeb then obviously they are not deciding this on a domain by domain basis and just making them all "premium" when someone wants them.

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Old 09-24-2011, 03:29 AM   #61
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You should have known the ICM Registry can't be trusted. There's plenty of information out there. ... a lesson learned the hard way.
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As you know I'm buying 12 xxx domains that I know own as a .com (sunrise 2) and I can't believe what I'm reading here. I'm happy that the process got paused by the reseller in Holland due to not matching WHOIS records, I'll refer them to this discussion and tell that that
1) don't bother going ahead with applying for xxx domains if you aren't sure if they are available
2) Fuck me and I'll do a credit card chargeback through my French bank
If they can't live with the above 2 terms they can stop with the procedure completely.
I'm prepared to pay 1600 euro for these 12 domains but I'm not prepared for paying 1600 euro and getting screwed and not getting anything. I'll end up killing someone and spending the rest of my life in jail.
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As you know I'm buying 12 xxx domains that I know own as a .com (sunrise 2) and I can't believe what I'm reading here. I'm happy that the process got paused by the reseller in Holland due to not matching WHOIS records, I'll refer them to this discussion and tell that that
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2) Fuck me and I'll do a credit card chargeback through my French bank
If they can't live with the above 2 terms they can stop with the procedure completely.
I'm prepared to pay 1600 euro for these 12 domains but I'm not prepared for paying 1600 euro and getting screwed and not getting anything. I'll end up killing someone and spending the rest of my life in jail.
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I wouldn't buy a .xxx domain if they were 10 bux ... total ripoff IMHO. And, registrars are phone calling me begging me to protect my .com domains by registering the .xxx domain ... piss on them and the high prices wanted for .xxx domains ... NOT HERE.
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:2cents Officially, with regard to .xxx

On a personal level I was pleased to see that the registrar who had bought a sponsorship at the Prague show with the intent of registering .xxx domain names ? sat alone in an empty "lounge area". (I was only at the Prague Show a few days.)

Officially, ACWebconnecting BV the owner/operator of XloveCam.com has registered our trademark names for legal reasons without the intention of actively operating from that sTLD or being compliant with any rule or policy, as to content or business practice, as ICM may promulgate, now or at future time.
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On a personal level I was pleased to see that the registrar who had bought a sponsorship at the Prague show with the intent of registering .xxx domain names ? sat alone in an empty "lounge area". (I was only at the Prague Show a few days.)

Officially, ACWebconnecting BV the owner/operator of XloveCam.com has registered our trademark names for legal reasons without the intention of actively operating from that sTLD or being compliant with any rule or policy, as to content or business practice, as ICM may promulgate, now or at future time.
Doesn't that still make you a victim of blackmailing? "register your domain before someone else does". Sunrise 3 is funny; if you have a mainstream trademark and don't want it to be used for porn, you can pay us and we make sure nobody will register it as an .xxx . Now if someone would register sony.xxx , Sony would sue that person. But sueing is more expensive than paying for sunrise 3 so a lot of companies are going through the sunrise 3 procedure probably, basically because they're getting blackmailed.
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I had to wear clogs as a kid, they really hurt your ankles. But I think the first Dutch immigrants who built New Amsterdam were wearing clogs too. Now would you say to a 7 feet tall monkey in Harlem that he should shove his clogs up his ass?

From our family album: my brother, me, and my sister, 1968, Zeedijk Amsterdam.

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Now would you say to a 7 feet tall monkey in Harlem that he should shove his clogs up his ass?
What do you mean?
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He ended up in the Amsterdam crime scene collecting money for pimps and drug dealers and was shot dead at the age of 29 already and my sister became a prostitute. I'm the only one who had a normal life with a normal carreer.
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What do you mean?
yeah what did you mean by that ?

who you calling a monkey there ?
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I had to wear clogs as a kid, they really hurt your ankles. But I think the first Dutch immigrants who built New Amsterdam were wearing clogs too. Now would you say to a 7 feet tall monkey in Harlem that he should shove his clogs up his ass?
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The joke's about Will being a 2 feet tall monkey. There's also white folks living in Harlem. Harlem is named after Haarlem in Holland. But a joke that needs to be explained is a shit joke, right? Slap me


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Apparently he wasn't THAT stoned. Before the gig he went into the Red Light District, visited a prostitute, fell in love with her, got drunk and forgot about the time. The ass
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The joke's about Will being a 2 feet tall monkey. There's also white folks living in Harlem. Harlem is named after Haarlem in Holland. But a joke that needs to be explained is a shit joke, right? Slap me
Less misunderstanding with Breuklyn.

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In love? He had both ears when he died.
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Mmmm I don't get the ear joke
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Well it was meant to be in keeping with the Dutch theme of the thread and a reference to Van Gogh and why he cut off his ear. But since I had to explain it, now the theme of the thread is just shit jokes.
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hahahaha yup

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Doesn't that still make you a victim of blackmailing? "register your domain before someone else does". Sunrise 3 is funny; if you have a mainstream trademark and don't want it to be used for porn, you can pay us and we make sure nobody will register it as an .xxx . Now if someone would register sony.xxx , Sony would sue that person. But sueing is more expensive than paying for sunrise 3 so a lot of companies are going through the sunrise 3 procedure probably, basically because they're getting blackmailed.

Perhaps, but we are not fools and have substantial assets to protect.

The misnomer of "blackmailing" as you call it should be more properly called "legal extortion" in its most extreme connotation.

In the final analysis -- the cost of a defensive registration to us is trivial. However, we will never agree to some NGO (non governmental organization) dictating to us on our content or general business practices that are within the laws of the international venue in which we operate.
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Yup I agree with you on everything, just wondering where this will go, then on the other hand, xxx is probably going to be the last TLD extension, I think they covered everything by now. That's why I decided to bite the bullet as well. I will reconsider the 12 domains though after reading what OP came up with in this thread. Maybe I'll limit to 4 and for the remaining 8 I will wait and try to get them after the landrush. I don't care that much about the money but I prefer to avoid getting screwed. I can get quite emotional about things like that, even if it's only about $100 and I want to be smiling with x-mas, not crying .
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Boycott = choking out the financial means to operate. If this adult industry was wise, there would be no sites registered besides sony.xxx. How are they going to operate with only a few mainstream names being registered and the ENTIRE adult industry boycotting them? Don't even offer a penny... choke the life out of their scam.


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I got those too. 1 call yesterday and another today.

Fuck .xxx
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Guys, just don't fall for it ! I know it's tempting and you figure that it could do you good but just DON'T BUY THEM and everything will be alright. Let this shit die before it's too late
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If one of our trademarked names gets registered, just one, then we will sue ICM and also issue civil proceedings against every single director of the organization in Australia.

It is a scam, it does violate law in our country at least, there are issues here such as third line forcing, unconscionable conduct and misleading and deceptive conduct.

ICM better not fuck with us because I have the tenacity of a mule.
That's what I decided as well... I followed their process and got fucked like everyone else, now I'll just let a judge handle it when one of my domains I 'pre-registered' goes online for some other company.
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Wow, after reading GFY for years, I did not even logged on to my domain manager in the last years, neither do I care about .xxx cause we all kind of agree it is a scam and a way to extort money out of our pockets. Thank you for being a live example... Pls do not forget to bump this every day, so you can contribute on a more vital way to GFY as you overlooked the wise threads that would have saved you money if you even cared about it a little to begin with.
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Old 09-28-2011, 01:34 PM   #90
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Boycott = choking out the financial means to operate. If this adult industry was wise, there would be no sites registered besides sony.xxx. How are they going to operate with only a few mainstream names being registered and the ENTIRE adult industry boycotting them? Don't even offer a penny... choke the life out of their scam.
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Old 09-28-2011, 01:48 PM   #91
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Wow, after reading GFY for years, I did not even logged on to my domain manager in the last years, neither do I care about .xxx cause we all kind of agree it is a scam and a way to extort money out of our pockets. Thank you for being a live example... Pls do not forget to bump this every day, so you can contribute on a more vital way to GFY as you overlooked the wise threads that would have saved you money if you even cared about it a little to begin with.
Here's the thing, for all the geniuses saying 'ignore it'. First off, you're the same geniuses saying ignore tube sites back in the day. Second, with the current condition of the Republican party, it's absolutely NOT out of the question that some legislator will seize on internet porn as his personal issue, and ram thru some kind of law requiring all porn to be on it's own easily quarantined tld. Is it LIKELY? No, odds are probably against it happening. Is it IMPOSSIBLE? Not even close to impossible.

So.... fuck Lawley. He's a scamming fuck, whatever. It doesn't matter. The idea is to protect your interests against all possible threats. However, with the way that they're handling the registration process, this can't be done even if you do try to play ball with them. If there are any successful lawsuits against ICM, that's what they're going to stem from.
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Old 09-28-2011, 04:08 PM   #92
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Boycott = choking out the financial means to operate. If this adult industry was wise, there would be no sites registered besides sony.xxx. How are they going to operate with only a few mainstream names being registered and the ENTIRE adult industry boycotting them? Don't even offer a penny... choke the life out of their scam.

How? tons of mainstream domainers / speculators will buy the domains hoping to flip them for a profit.
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Here's the thing, for all the geniuses saying 'ignore it'. First off, you're the same geniuses saying ignore tube sites back in the day. Second, with the current condition of the Republican party, it's absolutely NOT out of the question that some legislator will seize on internet porn as his personal issue, and ram thru some kind of law requiring all porn to be on it's own easily quarantined tld. Is it LIKELY? No, odds are probably against it happening. Is it IMPOSSIBLE? Not even close to impossible.

This genius never said to ignore tube sites, I made fun of the people who were ignoring them or thought they would just fade away. Especially tgp site owners. However, I am telling people to ignore .xxx and obviously even if you don't ignore it you still get screwed.

Correct, it's not impossible for some law to be passed in the US making us use .xxx domains to display nudity. It depends who is in office. If someone like Michele Bachmann gets in i think their is a chance of something like that happening. Again all depends on who is elected. And if someone like that gets elected we could have even bigger problems then .xxx.

However if you have a trademark on your domain then even if you ignore .xxx and it becomes mandated one day then you will have legal recourse to get the .xxx for your trademark. Trademarks are what is most important here. Everyone with a high quality domain built around and critical to their business needs to trademark their domain.

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Bottom line, they sent an email USING MY NAME AND COMPANY WITHOUT MY PERMISSION to garner favorability to attain the useage of the .xxx tld. If they do this? Why would a cent goto them. I am so sorry to hear about this frustration.
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I see a ban in your future.
Do you now... Uh oh.

Funny, I see a pizza and an ice cold beer in my future.
Exactly why do you think you see this in my future? Freedom of speech and saying boycott .xxx is bad? Well ummm... too bad.

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How? tons of mainstream domainers / speculators will buy the domains hoping to flip them for a profit.
And they are stupid. None of them paid attention to US law regarding cyber-squating? Is this my fault in any way? texaco.xxx is worthless. cnn.xxx ...I am just not seeing the market value for it... yet. In fact, the only future I can see for it now is in a courtroom where a judge is going to say it violates the intellectual property rights of CNN. The only place the domain holds any value (and not much at that) is in adult. HMN is branded. Any dummy who thinks he will make even one penny from us by registering hotmanilanights.xxx is in for a rude awakening when he offers it to us for sale. If he tries to use it to sell asian porn, I will ram a law suit so far down his throat it will choke him. If he tries to use it to go live with any web presence at all, well I have a law firm in Redwood City California that handles nothing but IP cases... all 12 floors of its firm ready to make him spend a lot of money for nothing in the end other than defeat. The intellectual property is reserved and protected. I am surprised that it has not been brought up already the fact that cyber-squating on domain names has already been deemed illegal. It's the same thing.

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