lo0ni

Hey all,

I first posted this question in the Webmaster Q & A section but I decided to post it here instead...

I'm currently going through my first year of an animation program and I am not really sure whether or not I should continue with it or switch over to another program. I've always wanted to work in the adult industry professionally and, now that I'm actually going to school to develop a set of skills, I was just wondering if there was any demand for 3d modelers/animators.

I've searched around different forums, browsing various business services sections, but I haven't seen many requests for animators. I've seen requests for flash animation services but not many for 3d work.

If I changed over to an interactive design program, will I have more opportunities for work, once my set of skills are developed?

Will an inexperienced 3d modeler/animator do better financially than an inexperienced web designer with flash animation skills?

Is there any demand, in the adult industry, for 3d animators?

I know that these questions are somewhat subjective, and are dependent on a variety of variables and unknown circumstances, but I'd just like your opinions.

Thanks

marlboroack

You should have both. Demand is not very high, but from what i see they convert a little bit differently.

lo0ni

Thanks for the response

DVTimes

do not look at adult for a living. look at mainstream and where its heading.

so what we will see more of is such as phone aps.

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bronco67

I've been doing 3d animation for around 14 years(mostly in medical), and I'm going to give some honest advice.

The world doesn't need another guy doing art who isn't doing it for the love of it. Making art should come from an unquenchable need inside you to create something. If you have to ask yourself and others these question, then maybe you should try stocking shelves at a grocery store.

If you had no need for money, and were already set financially, would you still make art because you love to do it?

If you want to work in the adult industry, grow a 10 inch dick and learn how not to come too quickly -- and pray someone notices.

Sorry if I seemed pissed off about it, but it sounds like you're asking if you should be an artist or not. You either are or you aren't.

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lo0ni

Thanks for the advice DV

And regarding your comment bronco...

You can work stocking shelves in a grocery store if you'd like, but no thanks.

The question that I asked is not in regards to whether or not I should be an artist, but whether a web designer or animator would do better in the adult industry.

And like I said before, I know this question is a bit hard to answer since it depends on many different factors but I would just like peoples opinions on the matter...

And anyone else can feel free to post comments trying to discourage me from pursuing a career in the adult industry, or as an animator or web designer...

I appreciate the free bumps.

barcodes

I came from a poor family. I wanted badly to go to an art school but I had no support. I couldn't even afford the 200 dollar app fee at the time. I later came across web design and taught myself most of what I know. I spent a few years in vocational school just to get the certifications and was able to get a job at an art studio.

I tried to teach myself 3ds max, maya, cinema 4d. I just have a lot of problems figuring it all out.

If you like both I would suggest going into animation or even sfx. Chances are if you are you will get some multimedia courses along the way that will teach you enough web design to get things moving on that end.

If you wanted to incorporate it into adult, you could make 3d based flash games fairly easily like hentaikeys animated ones. Make some scenes and make some actions like click here to tease, rub, finger, etc... Again any ood animation program is going to teach you some flash and web.

Look at loki on here. He has a good biz going. His stuff is mostly poser based I think. There are other avenues you can branch out of as well but in the end, I guess you should just do what makes you happy.

Here are a few inspirational clips.

barcodes

In my eyes it would be unimaginable to teach myself enough 3d, rigging, rendering/raytracing, cloth, environmental crap, fluids, painting, animation, etc... to do some good reels but I have already taught myself how to build enough websites/flash/eCommerce to get by.

lo0ni

Thanks for the inspiration bar!

I was and have been more interested in animating rather than design, and one of the reasons I decided to pursue animation was because, like DV and bronco mentioned, I was trying to pursue something that I actually liked rather than doing something just for a paycheck.

After having doing some design for a few months, I realized that I didn't hate it as much as I thought I did..

I really would like to take a crack at doing something in the adult industry, as I have been playing around with blogs, submitting, running failed TGPs, pay and avs sites for ten years.

Some might say to quit trying but I'm not going to...

I would much rather work as a web designer in adult than an animator in mainstream but, in any one industry, I'd rather work as an animator.

barcodes

I am sure there is money to be made in adult design but a lot of the stuff I have seen has gone for very cheap in comparison to mainstream. People are designing templates and installing them for 50 bucks, some ppl are designing logos for 15 bucks. There are a couple of places that charge a bit but other than mechbunny installs it looks like the most expensive stuff is in like logos or customized toons for their site and not as much the design.

again, I could be wrong. I am just speaking from lurking around the various sections.

Either way my friend, I hope you end up choosing the right path.

Again , check out loki on here. he sells his 3d content for a pretty penny and just made a paysite/affiliate program for himself as well. All is content is poser/bryce ish stuff. People seem to eat it up. If you are good with the modeling I am sure you could make some really nice content and sell it to some big companies here.

Best of luck

lo0ni

I believe you are right about what you said, as this is what I've gathered from lurking around forums as well and is one of the reasons I decided against pursuing a degree in web design and deciding to go after doing something that I enjoyed - since I saw prices for design services so low.

Thanks for your help though and I will definitely check out Loki's portfolio

Horny Dude

Go into App Design. There is a huge market for that and they pay really well. If I were in school that's what I would do.

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lo0ni

Thanks for the advice

mavruda

I don't feel like I'm good to give advice because I don't feel successful.
I saw on the above some cool part of told by the other guys though -
if you can do animation and web design - what makes you think you cannot do both?
Those actually can be merged into one service and makes you less expendable.
I'm saying expendable, because every specialist on market /does not matter if it's with the adult or mainstream/ is expendable. If you're more experienced, you got the better chance to do something more.
Of course you're free to choose your own path and thus to get better with only one of these, a better animator, a better designer. Have in mind that everyone now is designer and the prices went down to the ground. There are not much companies or clients who would pay you a desired /from your side/ fee for your service. You think you can work with Photoshop? Okay - guess how many of us can do the same. You think you can code or write CSS - and for a site you want to get paid with 1000 bucks? Wow, the client will tell you that his cousin will do that for 40 bucks or for free.
If I were you I would stick with the animation thing and when a client comes I would do the design for him. Oh wait - I actually do that. Except for the fact I don't work with 3D programs. I draw comics ( as many more guys around ). Someone would say the others are better than me - but there will be guys who would say they like exactly my style.
Yes Loki has really good stuff, but that does not mean you cannot compete him.

The one thing I liked the most with the comments on the above was that part where they were telling you: "The world doesn't need another guy doing art who isn't doing it for the love of it. "
Everyone here left a part of his soul in his works. Doesn't matter if we talk about directors, who shots cocks and butts, or flash animator who's doing promotional ads in 1990's style. That "soul" thing we call it "style".
There's a guy here who's shooting a "different" kind of porn and he's having his successes, because he loves what he does. Check the sites of Niki Montero - she's having a fun while doing that! What a lucky she is ! In all the ways you should do something on your behalf for your own future.

Good luck.

M.

DamianJ

1) How many porn 3D animations can you find online?
2) How many porn websites can you find online?

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lo0ni

Yes, I plan on being able to be able to do some 2d animation if I decide to go with web design...as flash/as3 and other interactive development courses are taught as part of the course.

The biggest problem I'm having is deciding which path to choose, because I don't want to spend a lot of money trying to become a 3d animator, if I will end up doing mostly design work.

If this were the case, I'd rather put my money towards courses in web design.

Some may consider it a bad start for me to pursue a career solely on the ability to break into the adult industry...

But working in this industry is where my real passion lies.

Of course, I know that I will also have to do mainstream work and will most likely only be able to supplement my income with adult ventures.

Regarding the statements about not needing guys that don't really love do art for the love of it goes,

You have this problem in every industry...

Not everyone loves what they do for a living.

In most cases, the opposite will actually be true. Art is not some sacred institution, of which only those who burn with passion for it should be a part.

If it is acceptable for people to work in industries in which they hate, then there should be no problem with people choosing art as a profession.

Of course, if you think that people should only do whatever they love, or those who do not love what they are doing should only work in the service industry, that's a different story.

That being said, I may not have as much of a love for art as you do but I am definitely not one of those people that is just trying to break into the field because I think it's just an easy job where I will be able to sit around drawing all day.

Thanks for your help though.

lo0ni

Appreciate any replies

dezmondel

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how did it turn out lo0ni? ...animation, webdesign or both?
...or is it too early to tell?

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