Please support Robbie on CNN

[EukerVoorn]

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-721326

Please take the trouble to create an account and vote for "This belongs on CNN". It's in everybody's interest.

[glamourmodels]

"No, they do not bill for legitimate, legal adult sites. Not at all. And in fact have deleted anyone's account who tries to bill for a legal adult website. "

had my account for like, i dunno, 13 years or something, basically since they were founded. never one chargeback except for someone who ripped me off years ago and they permanently limited my account a few months back for using it for "adult related". fuck them.

Here is a good resource site if you see this Robbie. You would probably get more traction if you emailed these guys about it: http://www.paypalsucks.com/

[porno jew]

thanks for letting the cnn audience know where they can get full site rips. thanks.

[Radical Bucks]

This will be great I support Robbie all the way, we need to ban together and stop these thieves once and for all.

[WarChild]

Voted inappropriate.

[EukerVoorn]

They also bill for child pornography and bestiality. A lot of the cp we found on LeaseWeb servers can be paid for by PayPal. So apparently if you want to use PayPal for getting billed for your adult content, there are 2 requirements:

1) Content needs to be stolen
2) Models have to younger than 18 if human, or they have to be a dog or a horse

Here's proof: http://www.aboutlswb.org/?page_id=4

(video files were removed by LeaseWeb instantly after publishing the links but the PayPal button is still present on the Oron pages - don't want to post live links to cp and bestiality but we have hundreds on file)

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn

They also bill for child pornography and bestiality. A lot of the cp we found on LeaseWeb servers can be paid for by PayPal. So apparently if you want to use PayPal for getting billed for your adult content, there are 2 requirements:

1) Content needs to be stolen
2) Models have to younger than 18 if human, or they have to be a dog or a horse

Here's proof: http://www.aboutlswb.org/?page_id=4

(video files were removed by LeaseWeb instantly after publishing the links but the PayPal button is still present on the Oron pages - don't want to post live links to cp and bestiality but we have hundreds on file)

I am pretty sure paypal does not know what most people charge for. Its not that they enter "cp" in payment subject text.

[imabro]

cnn would want better righter

[EukerVoorn]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

I am pretty sure paypal does not know what most people charge for. Its not that they enter "cp" in payment subject text.

They do know, because people keep telling them. So they are responsible. It's up to them to investigate what's being reported to them; they know they are billing for oron.com and it's not a big secret want kind of content oron.com is selling. So they'll be known as the e-wallet who made profit from distribution of child pornography, and that's their choice.

[Si]

Paypal is pretty pathetic. They let nude sites bill on there and shut down a non-nude site of mine for adult content.

[2MuchMark]

This would be a much better thread of people didn't distort things. EukerVoorn, just because illegal content appears on a server doesn't automatically mean that the biller SUPPORTS that content. If illegal shit appeared on yours thanks to an idiot end user who didn't know better, what would you say to CCBill if they cut you off?

If its your POLICY to do the right then, then the biller (Paypal, ccbill, whoever) trusts you to follow your policy UNTIL they receive complaints of illegal content and refuse to remove.

When illegal content is found the thing to do is to DMCA the host. If they don't respond quickly enough for you, you DMCA their upstream provider. We have done this many times and succeeded every single time.

[EukerVoorn]

Mark, everybody knows what the purpose of file lockers is, even PayPal knows that. You tell me how much content on filesonic.com you think really is "user generated" or legal. I bet it's less than 1%.

If we would be talking about something like youtube and some idiot uploads child pornography on there, then it's a totally different thing, then Youtube and their biller would not be responsible. But when billers chose to work with filelockers which are setup for the purpose of exchanging stuff that can't be exchanged elsewhere, and for exchanging stolen content, then they are responsible, simple.

Also I'm not saying that PayPal supports child pornography, that's your words, don't put your words in my mouth please.

[Matyko]

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-721326

Please take the trouble to create an account and vote for "This belongs on CNN". It's in everybody's interest.

Did it, nice article.
Now back to my mega Xmas splif

[moeloubani]

Originally Posted by **********

This would be a much better thread of people didn't distort things. EukerVoorn, just because illegal content appears on a server doesn't automatically mean that the biller SUPPORTS that content. If illegal shit appeared on yours thanks to an idiot end user who didn't know better, what would you say to CCBill if they cut you off?

If its your POLICY to do the right then, then the biller (Paypal, ccbill, whoever) trusts you to follow your policy UNTIL they receive complaints of illegal content and refuse to remove.

When illegal content is found the thing to do is to DMCA the host. If they don't respond quickly enough for you, you DMCA their upstream provider. We have done this many times and succeeded every single time.

LeaseWeb DOES support child pornography though because I have reported it in the past just for them to deny it is child pornography when it clearly is. I guess pictures of little girls in thongs with cum on them isn't pornographic for them. I showed them the exact page and they said they wouldn't take it down.

Therefore LeaseWeb DOES support child pornography as well as distribute child pornography and allow it to be hosted on their servers openly and knowingly.

[Robbie]

I'm just hoping that the thought that CNN might cover it will put a fire under PayPal's butt.

It's totally b.s. that they DO go out of their way to delete your account if you use it for ANYTHING to do with legitimate adult sites...but they seem to not even want to investigate it for billing on sites with stolen content.

So we all know that "yes" they can and DO investigate stuff and delete accounts. Because they did it and DO it to many of us over the years. But I'm not sure they have ever stopped billing for pirate sites.

[fris]

Originally Posted by imabro

cnn would want better righter

thats what i was gonna say, its not written very well.

[EukerVoorn]

Originally Posted by fris

thats what i was gonna say, its not written very well.

Then you write something better, maggot brain cunt. O wait... you're not a content producer so what do you know.

[porno jew]

would make zero sense to the layman.

[EukerVoorn]

Originally Posted by Robbie

I'm just hoping that the thought that CNN might cover it will put a fire under PayPal's butt.

Maybe this helps, I know PayPal is monitoring this site because they're threatening me with a lawsuite for it: http://www.downloadillegalpornpaywithpaypal.org

The content I had on it was really crappy like all my other content so I took the liberty to direct it to your CNN page

It's totally b.s. that they DO go out of their way to delete your account if you use it for ANYTHING to do with legitimate adult sites...but they seem to not even want to investigate it for billing on sites with stolen content.

Because adult sites don't have to hide anything and therefor have screengrabs, photos and graphics all over it. But on filelockers there are no graphics, just text links. As soon as you show screengrabs and links grouped together, people wake up and take action. It's what happened this week with my site aboutleaseweb.org , the files were removed by the police almost instantly. People have become numb, if not apathic.

[NALEM]

Done !!!!

[porno jew]

Vobile Expands Copyright Infringement Technology

Content identification provider Vobile, Inc. said Thursday its vCloud9 technology will be used by cyberlocker Web site Filesonic, to help the company spot copyright infringement before users are able to share them publicly.

When used properly, cyberlockers are beneficial to both content distributors and consumers because they allow users to store large amounts of data in a digital storage space.

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2011/...nt-technology/

great job filesonic!

[SASCH]

Euker,

Have you reported any of this CP activity to any Federal Law Enforcement (US)? They're usually pretty good on cracking down and working with foreign Law Enforcement. I hope they end up like McColo.

[gideongallery]

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn

Mark, everybody knows what the purpose of file lockers is, even PayPal knows that. You tell me how much content on filesonic.com you think really is "user generated" or legal. I bet it's less than 1%.

If we would be talking about something like youtube and some idiot uploads child pornography on there, then it's a totally different thing, then Youtube and their biller would not be responsible. But when billers chose to work with filelockers which are setup for the purpose of exchanging stuff that can't be exchanged elsewhere, and for exchanging stolen content, then they are responsible, simple.

Also I'm not saying that PayPal supports child pornography, that's your words, don't put your words in my mouth please.

a shared backup is still a backup

just because your upset that people who didn't pay for the content in the first place are using it doesn't invalidate the fair use nature of the service for all those people who are using it for content they PAID for

provide the life time free backup for your members and THEN you can complain about file lockers

but as long as you don't fully support the fair use right, you really don't have a right to bitch at all.

[johnnyloadproductions]

Originally Posted by SASCH

Euker,

Have you reported any of this CP activity to any Federal Law Enforcement (US)? They're usually pretty good on cracking down and working with foreign Law Enforcement. I hope they end up like McColo.

Old news man, LE knows damn well how much is on there.

The public is usually kept in the dark on just what the problem is and doesn't really understand the concept of how people use filehosts.

[SASCH]

Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions

Old news man, LE knows damn well how much is on there.

The public is usually kept in the dark on just what the problem is and doesn't really understand the concept of how people use filehosts.

You can never be overly optimistic Ecatel has been terminated numerous times by its carriers, it's only a matter of time.

[fris]

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn

Then you write something better, maggot brain cunt. O wait... you're not a content producer so what do you know.

wow, someone cant take critisim very well, if thats how you want to reply with nothing but insults.

It wont make CNN ever, it needs a more in depth article, not just calling them out.

But whatever floats your boat.

Let me guess you are going to reply and insult me again for more critisim.

[SASCH]

Originally Posted by fris

wow, someone cant take critisim very well, if thats how you want to reply with nothing but insults.

It wont make CNN ever, it needs a more in depth article, not just calling them out.

But whatever floats your boat.

Let me guess you are going to reply and insult me again for more critisim.

Fox News is better by far

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Robbie, have you notified Fabian/Manwin and the ASACP yet?

ADG

[MakingItPay]

Done! Keep pushing Robbie! Would be great! Paypal knows full well whats up. I have told them myself. Guess what they do? Not a damn thing.

[anexsia]

I think Paypal unfortunately has bigger fish to fry...kinda like all the simple drug possessions that don't get prosecuted in court because the courts have bigger things to go after...pirated porn sites are on the bottom of Paypal's list of things to do, just the way things work.

I do think it's good that you're making it known though because that's the only way to get things changed, by making it known. I don't like seeing ratios drop even further and while I don't believe all of that comes from piracy, some of it does.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by fris

It wont make CNN ever, it needs a more in depth article, not just calling them out.

My objective was to put it up there and try to get a little attention to it in hopes that MAYBE a reporter from CNN would see it and think it might make a good story.

I did the basic investigative part of it and posted the proof in the image at the top of the page on the report.

Just hoping that either a real reporter at CNN might get interested or that the guys at PayPal will see that I did that and think: "Oh shit" and maybe do something (I sent them that link to the IReport in my reply to PayPal and told them that I had put it out there and was exposing them for helping to fund copyright infringement)

I'm under no delusions that it will work...but you never know until you at least try.

Maybe you and a few others could do the same thing I did and even flesh it out a bit more.

Do you think it might be possible to get some attention that way? Like dozens of "IReports" from different people all on the same subject and showing that PayPal is billing for different pirate sites?

I'm just tossing it out there. Sometimes I get frustrated just doing nothing.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn

They do know, because people keep telling them. So they are responsible. It's up to them to investigate what's being reported to them; they know they are billing for oron.com and it's not a big secret want kind of content oron.com is selling. So they'll be known as the e-wallet who made profit from distribution of child pornography, and that's their choice.

I agree. They know exactly what is going on.

[InfoGuy]

Robbie, if you want to ensure that your issue gets coverage, buy 1 share of eBay stock and attend their annual shareholders meeting. I'm pretty sure eBay will address your concerns about piracy, rather than face the wrath of institutions dumping their positions.

[EukerVoorn]

Originally Posted by porno jew

Vobile Expands Copyright Infringement Technology

Content identification provider Vobile, Inc. said Thursday its vCloud9 technology will be used by cyberlocker Web site Filesonic, to help the company spot copyright infringement before users are able to share them publicly.

When used properly, cyberlockers are beneficial to both content distributors and consumers because they allow users to store large amounts of data in a digital storage space.

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2011/...nt-technology/

great job filesonic!

That's good news.

[EukerVoorn]

Originally Posted by gideongallery

just because your upset that people who didn't pay for the content in the first place

What upsets me are affiliates who wish to be content producers and think they are worth my time. Your point of view on file sharing is clear, you don't need to repeat yourself. You think it's ok, so go produce some content and make that available to the people who want to share it. Keep your opinion and your hands off the intellectual property of others. In the end, the people who will be upset are those who enjoy jerking off on my content because I might quit producing new content and start doing something else. I don't need this porn biz at all but I'm afraid that the porn addicts who download from filelockers do need the porn biz and by destroying this industry they're destroying their drug.

[EukerVoorn]

Originally Posted by fris

wow, someone cant take critisim very well, if thats how you want to reply with nothing but insults.

It wont make CNN ever, it needs a more in depth article, not just calling them out.

But whatever floats your boat.

Let me guess you are going to reply and insult me again for more critisim.

Ok insulting you wash childish, my apologies. My point was... if you think you can write something better, just do it.

[fris]

Originally Posted by Robbie

My objective was to put it up there and try to get a little attention to it in hopes that MAYBE a reporter from CNN would see it and think it might make a good story.

I did the basic investigative part of it and posted the proof in the image at the top of the page on the report.

Just hoping that either a real reporter at CNN might get interested or that the guys at PayPal will see that I did that and think: "Oh shit" and maybe do something (I sent them that link to the IReport in my reply to PayPal and told them that I had put it out there and was exposing them for helping to fund copyright infringement)

I'm under no delusions that it will work...but you never know until you at least try.

Maybe you and a few others could do the same thing I did and even flesh it out a bit more.

Do you think it might be possible to get some attention that way? Like dozens of "IReports" from different people all on the same subject and showing that PayPal is billing for different pirate sites?

I'm just tossing it out there. Sometimes I get frustrated just doing nothing.

its a good idea, if i was you i would contact this site.

they specialize in this sort of stuff, and they have a very large following.

http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/

im sure they would print it.

[signupdamnit]

I'll try to register an account and vote it up too. If this fails another thing to try might be to bring this up on investment forums. Paypal/Ebay may not like being linked to beastiality and illegal porn very much and some investors (particularly religious ones) might be quite turned off by it.

[signupdamnit]

Originally Posted by DWB

I agree. They know exactly what is going on.

I guess it's our job then to make sure the rest of the world knows as well.

[Christina T.]

I voted for him

[pornguy]

voted. I also think that PP knows. Lots of people complain to them and they continue it.

Its almost as bad as the piracy sites being allowed to keep the domains. if the registrars would suspend the domains, no more problem.

[Cystomatic]

De fuck, how much do these girls get paid to fuck a horse or a dog o.O

@OP, I just voted, hope it helps.

[DamianJ]

This CNN thing is a waste of time. The answer has already been posted here. Buy a share and go to the next share holders meeting. IMHO.

Or get friendly with a local journo, on a local rag and give them the story to break. Sending in 'you should look at this' stuff only tells the staff they can't do their job.

[Jim_Gunn]

Originally Posted by gideongallery

a shared backup is still a backup

just because your upset that people who didn't pay for the content in the first place are using it doesn't invalidate the fair use nature of the service for all those people who are using it for content they PAID for

provide the life time free backup for your members and THEN you can complain about file lockers

but as long as you don't fully support the fair use right, you really don't have a right to bitch at all.

How many years has this idiot Gideon been posting this same nonsense on this forum? There has never been a person in the history of the world who asked for or wanted a life time backup of porn that they paid for to be provided by the studio or producer and even if there was what the fuck does that have to do with anything, lol? Most people have never even heard of fair use or care to invoke their rights such as they are. Pay for what you use, buy or download and fuck off.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn

They do know, because people keep telling them. So they are responsible. It's up to them to investigate what's being reported to them; they know they are billing for oron.com and it's not a big secret want kind of content oron.com is selling. So they'll be known as the e-wallet who made profit from distribution of child pornography, and that's their choice.

So go there and post a link.

It needs everyone to get involved. Yes buy a share or shares. Good investment. Find out who is buying the shares and make sure they know what Ebay are allowing Paypal to bill for.

What have those criticising done to expose Paypal?

I posted twice.

[TurboAngel]

Go Robbie!

[SASCH]

You forgot the necro shit!

[Barefootsies]

[PornoMonster]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

I am pretty sure paypal does not know what most people charge for. Its not that they enter "cp" in payment subject text.

FUnny how they shut down tons of webmasters back in the day for billing for adult sites. Somehow they knew...

[PornoMonster]

Originally Posted by gideongallery

a shared backup is still a backup

just because your upset that people who didn't pay for the content in the first place are using it doesn't invalidate the fair use nature of the service for all those people who are using it for content they PAID for

provide the life time free backup for your members and THEN you can complain about file lockers

but as long as you don't fully support the fair use right, you really don't have a right to bitch at all.

Wow,
I don't think most of the sites are SELLING the content, they are selling access to view or rent it for the 30 days.

Thanks!