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Old 01-19-2012, 06:40 PM   #101
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Here we go, just like the last thread. Bros incoming to defend stealing from affiliates
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Old 01-19-2012, 06:43 PM   #102
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Sorta reminds me of the time a webhosting company we dealt with used our portion of the revshare to pay his own income tax. We pulled the plug on our business affiliations not long after.
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Old 01-19-2012, 06:43 PM   #103
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There also appears to be a business opportunity for somebody here, seems to me that what this girl needs is some upfront money to pay her house arrears, and somebody to teach her how to market without affiliates......
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I guess a lot of people removed links and its hurting there business.
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Here we go, just like the last thread. Bros incoming to defend stealing from affiliates
What are you talking about? First, no one has yet "defended stealing". Second, they intend to make good on cash owed and keep biz going so how is it "stealing"?

Just curious, bro... How many sales did you make with them?
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What are you talking about? First, no one has yet "defended stealing". Second, they intend to make good on cash owed and keep biz going so how is it "stealing"?

Just curious, bro... How many sales did you make with them?
Yeah, the money is in motion

Glady, I didn't make enough for the minimum payout with her program. But, as I stated in the original thread, even if it was just 1 dollar, it's still stealing.

Just curious, bro...How many sales have to be stolen for it to be theft to you?
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Old 01-19-2012, 07:49 PM   #109
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Yeah, the money is in motion

Glady, I didn't make enough for the minimum payout with her program. But, as I stated in the original thread, even if it was just 1 dollar, it's still stealing.

Just curious, bro...How many sales have to be stolen for it to be theft to you?
You didn't pay attention in history class. We have gone after "bros" with multi-year lawsuits for stealing, so even if it is ONE PENNY then I have an issue with stealing.

The point here though, which you didn't address, bro, is that how is it stealing if they say that they are going to make good on every penny? They made a mistake and intend to make good on it. What more do you need bro? Some bro-love from the bro-haters?
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Affiliates are needed after all? Who would of thought?

Jesus, I forgot how fucking hot Melissa is.

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If your new venture didn't fail, would the outcome of deciding to pay your affiliates be the same as it is now. I hardly think so.

I think clearing the air with the affiliates you did not pay is a good thing, but the fact that you admitted your other venture failed and this is why you want to clear the air and pay everyone back so you can open shop once more, is almost laughable.
Hummm never thought of this...
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You didn't pay attention in history class. We have gone after "bros" with multi-year lawsuits for stealing, so even if it is ONE PENNY then I have an issue with stealing.

The point here though, which you didn't address, bro, is that how is it stealing if they say that they are going to make good on every penny? They made a mistake and intend to make good on it. What more do you need bro? Some bro-love from the bro-haters?
Epass said the money was in motion too. But let's say they make an attempt to pay back the money to affiliates, you honestly believe not one dollar will be stolen? You think they've kept track of affiliate referrals and rev shares since they closed shop, will continue the recurring subs now that they posted a thread about paying back?

If I go into a store a take a tv, but give it back in 3 months, do you think the cops will say, "it's cool bro, you brought it back." If I rip your site and post all the videos online for 3 months, will you be cool if I come back and say sorry afterwards?

Come on man, this was flat out theft, they will never give back every dollar owed, we both know it.
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i just dont get it. why screw affiliates. setup rev share. pay once month. get a server for 150 month. you could pay that working at walmart. bad people thats the bottom line
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I'm glad I never sent them any traffic.

I never will either.
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Old 01-20-2012, 12:00 AM   #118
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is Melissa going to shoot new content or her site will rotate what's already been shot?
Yea start putting new content up and keep the members you have at least.

I'll for sure be interested to hear from people that post that they have actually been paid.

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Epass said the money was in motion too. But let's say they make an attempt to pay back the money to affiliates, you honestly believe not one dollar will be stolen? You think they've kept track of affiliate referrals and rev shares since they closed shop, will continue the recurring subs now that they posted a thread about paying back?

If I go into a store a take a tv, but give it back in 3 months, do you think the cops will say, "it's cool bro, you brought it back." If I rip your site and post all the videos online for 3 months, will you be cool if I come back and say sorry afterwards?

Come on man, this was flat out theft, they will never give back every dollar owed, we both know it.
Dudester Bro-diddley...

As long as I have been in biz I have had plenty of no-pays, late-pays, delays, way-laids, and checks in the mail promises... If someone tells me they intend to pay then I give them the benefit of the doubt first. So your analogy is not even accurate or informative; it is just sophistry to try and make your point but it is baseless and misleading. If they say they will pay then what is the harm in giving them the benefit of the doubt?

Give you an example, just so you understand that without having all the facts, you shouldn't accuse them of stealing based on assumptions.

We once had a vendor that was half our total income literally close shop overnight, take all the money, the lists, data, etc. and move to a desert island. Now that was an event that we had zero control over which instantly cash strapped us, but the worse problem was that part of what we should have been paid was also owed to other producers like Dave Cummings.

Now we knew we would never recover a dime, but Dave still expected to be paid. Due to the circumstances we delayed payment, Dave was not happy, but we eventually rebounded and paid him. Were we stealing from him? Never. Was he paid. Yes. Did it take a while to make good and was it a messy pain in the ass to deal with? Yes and yes. Did Dave think we were stealing from him? Probably. Did he realize in the end that we were not. YES.

Don't assume anything. And if someone says sorry and I will pay then what should be asking is "when and how" not saying pretty much only "fuck you". What good is that going to do?

And yes, I do believe it is possible to accurately pay back every penny with a proper audit of their transactions.
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She may indeed hope to pay her affiliates...

But there is a big question to be asked here. If her income has dropped so much that she cant pay her mortgage for 4 months (meaning that her mortgage company has most likely started foreclosure proceedings unless she has a loan modification) then how will she make payments to affiliates?

Sounds like there is no more traffic, rebills are dying, and the money well has dried up. How do you pay people with no money? Apologies dont pay bills, especially with how (rudely) she just shut off everything and now its like, oopsie my bad.
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LOL i thought this was a joke thread.

anyone who plays with fire shall be burned.

no way this is her right? LOLOLOL maybe she should start a design company...
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Dudester Bro-diddley...

As long as I have been in biz I have had plenty of no-pays, late-pays, delays, way-laids, and checks in the mail promises... If someone tells me they intend to pay then I give them the benefit of the doubt first. So your analogy is not even accurate or informative; it is just sophistry to try and make your point but it is baseless and misleading. If they say they will pay then what is the harm in giving them the benefit of the doubt?

Give you an example, just so you understand that without having all the facts, you shouldn't accuse them of stealing based on assumptions.

We once had a vendor that was half our total income literally close shop overnight, take all the money, the lists, data, etc. and move to a desert island. Now that was an event that we had zero control over which instantly cash strapped us, but the worse problem was that part of what we should have been paid was also owed to other producers like Dave Cummings.

Now we knew we would never recover a dime, but Dave still expected to be paid. Due to the circumstances we delayed payment, Dave was not happy, but we eventually rebounded and paid him. Were we stealing from him? Never. Was he paid. Yes. Did it take a while to make good and was it a messy pain in the ass to deal with? Yes and yes. Did Dave think we were stealing from him? Probably. Did he realize in the end that we were not. YES.

Don't assume anything. And if someone says sorry and I will pay then what should be asking is "when and how" not saying pretty much only "fuck you". What good is that going to do?

And yes, I do believe it is possible to accurately pay back every penny with a proper audit of their transactions.
They just shut down the program without warning and said that's it, no more payments, no more rebills, that's it. I don't know how much clearer a case of theft can be. This is no different from epass leaving stranded money in your account and closing, no different.

If you choose to give the benefit of the doubt to a thief, that's on you. This passive, and forgiving attitude towards thieves is one of the reasons they are allowed to thrive in adult. For christ's sake Mallick was called a stand up guy and thanked the other day. When will people learn?
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Pretty much, and most likely isn't even her posting. But she's still hot!
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She may indeed hope to pay her affiliates...

But there is a big question to be asked here. If her income has dropped so much that she cant pay her mortgage for 4 months (meaning that her mortgage company has most likely started foreclosure proceedings unless she has a loan modification) then how will she make payments to affiliates?

Sounds like there is no more traffic, rebills are dying, and the money well has dried up. How do you pay people with no money? Apologies dont pay bills, especially with how (rudely) she just shut off everything and now its like, oopsie my bad.
WTF? Don't go posting sound business logic in this thread! What's wrong with you?!?@!

no matter, dammit! She's still hot!!! LOL
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Dudester Bro-diddley...

As long as I have been in biz I have had plenty of no-pays, late-pays, delays, way-laids, and checks in the mail promises... If someone tells me they intend to pay then I give them the benefit of the doubt first. So your analogy is not even accurate or informative; it is just sophistry to try and make your point but it is baseless and misleading. If they say they will pay then what is the harm in giving them the benefit of the doubt?

Give you an example, just so you understand that without having all the facts, you shouldn't accuse them of stealing based on assumptions.

We once had a vendor that was half our total income literally close shop overnight, take all the money, the lists, data, etc. and move to a desert island. Now that was an event that we had zero control over which instantly cash strapped us, but the worse problem was that part of what we should have been paid was also owed to other producers like Dave Cummings.

Now we knew we would never recover a dime, but Dave still expected to be paid. Due to the circumstances we delayed payment, Dave was not happy, but we eventually rebounded and paid him. Were we stealing from him? Never. Was he paid. Yes. Did it take a while to make good and was it a messy pain in the ass to deal with? Yes and yes. Did Dave think we were stealing from him? Probably. Did he realize in the end that we were not. YES.

Don't assume anything. And if someone says sorry and I will pay then what should be asking is "when and how" not saying pretty much only "fuck you". What good is that going to do?

And yes, I do believe it is possible to accurately pay back every penny with a proper audit of their transactions.
Good post.
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you and a very limited few posting here are actually females, the rest have a guy posting on the nick, even if just half the time.
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Hey... may this all get sorted out though. I just think since nothing changed on her site, prior to making this thread, y'all being trolled. :2cents
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She needs to start stripping 7 days a week starting tonight.

This is either a bullshit hacked account or what I would classify as the most spoiled, self centered, stuck up, deluded, uneducated, thieving bitch yet. Her excuses are not just laughable, but should be presented in business 101 classes as a classic case of what not to do and then TO SHUT THE FUCK UP UNLESS YOU HAVE MONEY IN HAND.

Many of the female "stars" in this business are in for a rude awakening when they grow old and have not socked a lot away for their future. Few are 10's AND mental giants at the same time.

Put a bag over your head and see how "smart" and "interesting" you still are to men. Let's see how brilliant you are in another biz without men looking at your tits.

I know this may sound harsh but someone needs to set these kids straight. Too many of you blow smoke up the asses of these ladies since grade school and their world view is very distorted.

Would love to see the brilliant state of mind she was in when she came up with the idea to post here.

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Old 01-20-2012, 07:40 AM   #140
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please be patient everyone will get there money
it's "their", you dumb fuckign cunt
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Old 01-20-2012, 07:45 AM   #141
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Old 01-20-2012, 07:50 AM   #142
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Old 01-20-2012, 07:53 AM   #143
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You didn't pay attention in history class. We have gone after "bros" with multi-year lawsuits for stealing, so even if it is ONE PENNY then I have an issue with stealing.

The point here though, which you didn't address, bro, is that how is it stealing if they say that they are going to make good on every penny? They made a mistake and intend to make good on it. What more do you need bro? Some bro-love from the bro-haters?
The business was shit so she bailed taking the money. Now she's back, hasn't paid her mortgage in 4 months and you really think she's going to be able to pay people back?

Come on now. You're MUCH smarter than that.
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Old 01-20-2012, 07:53 AM   #144
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I never promoted her but I have been screwed by multiple programs in and out of Adult.

I think there are many people here who can attest that you don't have to be a thief to go broke.

First of all, making an announcement that they were closed and there would be no more payments is way more ballsy and honest than any of the scumbags that have ripped me off ever were. As a creditor I know from experience that it is much easier to make the right decision when you know you are fucked than if you are being strung along with false hope.

Also coming back around and stating an intent to pay everyone back is a move you don't often get from thieves.
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Old 01-20-2012, 07:57 AM   #145
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it's not hacked... she really IS that fucking stoopid
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Old 01-20-2012, 08:00 AM   #146
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Also coming back around and stating an intent to pay everyone back is a move you don't often get from thieves.
what the fuck is she gonna pay people back with? her ass?

she's broke and this thread is a desperate attempt to sucker back the idiots into sending her sales
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Old 01-20-2012, 08:02 AM   #147
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Also coming back around and stating an intent to pay everyone back is a move you don't often get from thieves.

thats right, scammers are the ones who keep coming back and doing it over and over again.

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loose the suitcase pimp and get a man that can take care of you .... problem solved..
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