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Old 01-24-2012, 07:16 PM   #1
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Wil Wheaton Says Chris Dodd Is Lying About Lost Jobs; Says MPAA Accounting Creates More Losses Than

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Ahh yeah, that was what he is an expert on.
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2010 Family Guy (TV series)
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2008-2009 Ben 10: Alien Force (TV series)
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? War of the Worlds: Part One (2009) ? Darkstar (voice)
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2009 Ben 10: Alien Force - Vilgax Attacks (Video Game)
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2008 Criminal Minds (TV series)
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2008 Grand Theft Auto IV (Video Game)
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2007-2008 Legion of Super Heroes (TV series)
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? Cry Wolf (2007) ? Cosmic Boy (voice) / Human Scientist (voice)
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2007 Numb3rs (TV series)
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2007 Gekijô-ban Naruto shippûden
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2007 PvP: The Animated Series (TV series)
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2007 Americanizing Shelley
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2007 Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter 2 (Video Game) (voice)

2007 Random! Cartoons (TV series)
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2006 Avatar: The Last Airbender (TV series)
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2006 Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories (Video Game)
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2005 Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories (Video Game)
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2003-2005 Teen Titans (TV series)
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? Titans East: Part 2 (2005) ? Aqualad (voice)
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? Wavelength (2004) ? Aqualad (voice)
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2005 CSI: Crime Scene Investigation (TV series)
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2004 Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (Video Game)
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2004 Every Little Something by Dave (video)
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2002 Star Trek: Nemesis
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See all 16 episodes »

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? One Giant Leap... (2011) ? Dr. Isaac Parrish
? One Small Step... (2011) ? Dr. Isaac Parrish
? This One Time at Space Camp... (2011) ? Dr. Isaac Parrish
? Of Mites and Men (2011) ? Dr. Isaac Parrish
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See all 7 episodes »

2011 DC Universe Online (Video Game)
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2010 Underground Entertainment: The Movie
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2010 Ben 10: Ultimate Alien (TV series)
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? Absolute Power: Part One (2010) ? Mike Morningstar/Darkstar (voice)
? Absolute Power: Part Two (2010) ? Mike Morningstar/Darkstar (voice)
? Couples Retreat ? Darkstar (voice)

2010 Fallout: New Vegas (Video Game)
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2009-2010 Batman: The Brave and the Bold (TV series)
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? Menace of the Madniks! (2010) ? Ted Kord (voice) / Silver Age Blue Beetle (voice)
? Fall of the Blue Beetle! (2009) ? Ted Kord (voice) / Silver Age Blue Beetle (voice)

2010 Family Guy (TV series)
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2008-2009 Ben 10: Alien Force (TV series)
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? Trade-Off (2009) ? Darkstar (voice) / Micahel Morningstar (voice)
? War of the Worlds: Part One (2009) ? Darkstar (voice)
? War of the Worlds: Part Two (2009) ? Darkstar (voice)
? Darkstar Rising (2008) ? Mike Morningstar (voice) / Darkstar (voice)
? All That Glitters (2008) ? Mike Morningstar (voice)

2009 Ben 10: Alien Force - Vilgax Attacks (Video Game)
Darkstar (voice)

2009 Brütal Legend (Video Game)
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2009 Kurokami: The Animation (TV series)
Yakumo
? Kakusei (2009) ? Yakumo
? Senjin (2009) ? Yakumo
? Ihen (2009) ? Yakumo
? Masagami (2009) ? Yakumo
? Hôkai (2009) ? Yakumo
See all 14 episodes »

2009 Star Trek
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2008 Criminal Minds (TV series)
Floyd Hansen
? Paradise (2008) ? Floyd Hansen

2008 Grand Theft Auto IV (Video Game)
Alien (voice)

2007-2008 Legion of Super Heroes (TV series)
Cosmic Boy / Human Scientist / Roderick Doyle
? Dark Victory: Part 2 (2008) ? Cosmic Boy (voice)
? Dark Victory: Part 1 (2008) ? Cosmic Boy (voice)
? In the Beginning (2008) ? Cosmic Boy (voice) / Roderick Doyle (voice)
? The Karate Kid (2007) ? Cosmic Boy (voice)
? Cry Wolf (2007) ? Cosmic Boy (voice) / Human Scientist (voice)
See all 6 episodes »

2007 Numb3rs (TV series)
Miles Sklar
? Graphic (2007) ? Miles Sklar

2007 Gekijô-ban Naruto shippûden
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2007 PvP: The Animated Series (TV series)
? Precious Moments (2007) (voice)

2007 Americanizing Shelley
Director Alan Smithee

2007 Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter 2 (Video Game) (voice)

2007 Random! Cartoons (TV series)
Kyle / Sir Horace
? Kyle + Rosemary (2007) ? Kyle/Sir Horace (voice)

2006 Naruto (TV series)
Menma
? Keshisaritai kako (2006) ? Menma (voice: English version)
? Torimodoshita genjitsu (2006) ? Menma (voice: English version)
? Ushinawareta kioku (2006) ? Menma (voice: English version)

2006 Avatar: The Last Airbender (TV series)
Additional Voices
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2006 Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories (Video Game)
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2005 Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories (Video Game)
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2003-2005 Teen Titans (TV series)
Aqualad / Computer Geek
? For Real (2005) ? Aqualad (voice) / Computer Geek (voice)
? Titans East: Part 2 (2005) ? Aqualad (voice)
? Titans East: Part 1 (2005) ? Aqualad (voice)
? Wavelength (2004) ? Aqualad (voice)
? Winner Take All (2004) ? Aqualad (voice)
See all 6 episodes »

2005 Rainbow Six: Lockdown (Video Game) (voice)

2005 CSI: Crime Scene Investigation (TV series)
Walter
? Compulsion (2005) ? Walter

2005 Super Robot Monkey Team Hyperforce Go! (TV series)
Skurg
? The Lords of Soturix 7 (2005) ? Skurg (voice)

2005 Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter (Video Game) (voice)

2004 Ghost Recon 2 (Video Game) (voice)

2004 EverQuest II (Video Game)
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2004 Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (Video Game)
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2004 Call for Help 2.0 (TV series)
Guest Host
? Episode dated 26 April 2004 (2004) ? Guest Host
? Episode dated 23 April 2004 (2004) ? Guest Host

2004 Every Little Something by Dave (video)
'Evil' Wil Wheaton (voice)

2003/I Neverland
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2003 Book of Days (TV movie)
Danny

2002 Arena (TV series)
Co-host

2002 Star Trek: Nemesis
Wesley Crusher

2002 The Zeta Project (TV series)
Kevin
? The Wrong Morph (2002) ? Kevin (voice)

2002 Fish Don't Blink
Jimmy (as Will Wheaton)

2002 Biography (TV series documentary)
Narrator
? Eclipsed by Death: The Life of River Phoenix (2002) ? Narrator (voice)

2002 Jane White Is Sick & Twisted
Dick Smith

2001 The Good Things (short)
Zach Means

2001 Speechless... (short)
Ryan

2001 Twice in a Lifetime (TV series)
Dr. Thomas / Ryan Storey
? The Choice (2001) ? Ryan Storey / Dr. Thomas

2001 The Invisible Man (TV series)
Dorman
? Perchance to Dream (2001) ? Dorman

2000 Python (TV movie)
Tommy

2000 Deep Core
Rodney Bedecker

2000 The Girls' Room
Charlie

1999 Chicken Soup for the Soul (TV series)
Will
? The Wallet (1999) ? Will

1999 Foreign Correspondents
Jonas

1999 Guys Like Us (TV series)
Steve / The Fig
? Good Old Days (1999) ? Steve/The Fig

1998 Diagnosis Murder (TV series)
Forest Ranger Gary Barton
? Alienated (1998) ? Forest Ranger Gary Barton

1998 Fag Hag
Christian Bookstore Manager

1998 Love Boat: The Next Wave (TV series)
Tristan Reedy
? I Can't Get No Satisfaction (1998) ? Tristan Reedy

1998 The Day Lincoln Was Shot (TV movie)
Robert Todd Lincoln

1997 Flubber
Bennett Hoenicker

1997 Perversions of Science (TV series)
Bryan
? Snap Ending (1997) ? Bryan

1997 Gun (TV series)
Bilchick
? Ricochet (1997) ? Bilchick

1997 Tales of Glamour and Excess
Danny Sugerman

1996 The Outer Limits (TV series)
Cadet
? The Light Brigade (1996) ? Cadet

1996 Pie in the Sky
Jack

1996 Boys Night Out (short)
Marco

1995 It Was Him or Us (TV movie)
Scottie

1995 Mr. Stitch (TV movie)
Lazarus

1994 Sirens (TV series)
Wayne McGarrick
? Chasing a Ghost (1994) ? Wayne McGarrick

1987-1994 Star Trek: The Next Generation (TV series)
Wesley Crusher / Ensign Wesley Crusher / Lieutenant Wesley Crusher
? Journey's End (1994) ? Wesley Crusher
? Parallels (1993) ? Lieutenant Wesley Crusher
? The First Duty (1992) ? Wesley Crusher
? The Game (1991) ? Wesley Crusher
? Final Mission (1990) ? Ensign Wesley Crusher
See all 86 episodes »

1993 Tales from the Crypt (TV series)
Arling
? House of Horror (1993) ? Arling

1993 The Liars' Club
David Reynolds

1992 Lifestories: Families in Crisis (TV series)
Robert Bierer
? A Deadly Secret: The Robert Bierer Story (1992) ? Robert Bierer

1991 December
Kipp Gibbs

1991 The Last Prostitute (TV movie)
Danny

1991 Toy Soldiers
Joseph 'Joey' Trotta

1990 Monsters (TV series)
Kevin
? A Shave and a Haircut, Two Bites (1990) ? Kevin

1989 ABC Afterschool Specials (TV series)
Nick Karpinsky
? My Dad Can't Be Crazy... Can He? (1989) ? Nick Karpinsky

1987 The Man Who Fell to Earth (TV movie)
Billy Milton

1987 The Curse
Zack (as Will Wheaton)

1987 Family Ties (TV series)
Timothy Higgins
? 'D' Is for Date (1987) ? Timothy Higgins

1987 Young Harry Houdini (TV movie)
Ehrich Weiss / young Harry Houdini

1986 St. Elsewhere (TV series)
? Nothing Up My Sleeve (1986)

1986 Stand by Me
Gordie Lachance

1986 Long Time Gone (TV movie)
Mitchell

1986 The Defiant Ones (TV movie)
Clyde

1985 Highway to Heaven (TV series)
Max
? One Winged Angels (1985) ? Max

1984 The Last Starfighter
Louis' Friend

1984 The Buddy System
Tim

1983 13 13th Avenue (TV movie)

1983 Hambone and Hillie
Jeff Radcliffe

1982 The Secret of NIMH
Martin (voice)

1982 CBS Afternoon Playhouse (TV series)
Amos Cotter
? The Shooting (1982) ? Amos Cotter

1981 A Long Way Home (TV movie)
real shame how his career just died after that show.
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Here is Wheaton's quote from the article: "I have lost more money to creative accounting, and American workers have lost more jobs to runaway production, than anything associated with what the MPAA calls piracy. Chris Dodd is lying about piracy costing us jobs. Hollywood’s refusal to adapt to changing times is what’s costing the studios money. That’s it."

I will agree with him that the entertainment industry itself is rife with "creative accounting" and various things that fuck people out of money. Also, Chris Doddis for sale and is corrupt. However, he is free to finance his own project, distribute how he sees fit and make his own money outside the system. Just like if you are a construction worker who works for a union and you are sick of the union you are free to leave, start your own construction company and do your own thing.
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Yup, clearly imdb is where people should go to get the credentials of people discussing economic policy.
he is not discussing economic policy he is talking about piracy and the ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY.
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Here is Wheaton's quote from the article: "I have lost more money to creative accounting, and American workers have lost more jobs to runaway production, than anything associated with what the MPAA calls piracy. Chris Dodd is lying about piracy costing us jobs. Hollywood?s refusal to adapt to changing times is what?s costing the studios money. That?s it."

I will agree with him that the entertainment industry itself is rife with "creative accounting" and various things that fuck people out of money. Also, Chris Doddis for sale and is corrupt. However, he is free to finance his own project, distribute how he sees fit and make his own money outside the system. Just like if you are a construction worker who works for a union and you are sick of the union you are free to leave, start your own construction company and do your own thing.
he is also free to speak out against the trade organizations

and make it clear they don't represent him in this "fight"
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and make it clear they don't represent him in this "fight"
You are correct. But if he is going to make accusations like he has perhaps he should show some stats or facts to back that up.
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You are correct. But if he is going to make accusations like he has perhaps he should show some stats or facts to back that up.
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...ofitable.shtml

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...10310122.shtml

those facts are already a public record

and unlike the claims of loses from piracy, which are based on speculation/insane assumptions that 100% of downloads would have bought the most expensive copy they could have, those number are hard real costs.
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http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...10310122.shtml

those facts are already a public record

and unlike the claims of loses from piracy, which are based on speculation/insane assumptions that 100% of downloads would have bought the most expensive copy they could have, those number are hard real costs.
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The MPAA tried that, but then had to admit they were lying cunts and made it all up.
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who are you to believe, a scumbag politician with an agenda or some actor who gains nothing by saying this.
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Okay I admit I may have been a bit hasty. I now stand corrected.

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even without agenda they both can just be dumb.
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the nature of a corporation is that safety. however, this is exploiting that...

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...However, he is free to finance his own project, distribute how he sees fit and make his own money outside the system. Just like if you are a construction worker who works for a union and you are sick of the union you are free to leave, start your own construction company and do your own thing.
This is wrong. Hollywood controls the majority of distribution channels from the theaters to most media stores to the actual ratings systems. It's a racket through and through.

While nothing is stopping Wheaton from getting investors, producing his own stuff, Hollywood and the distribution companies are still the gatekeepers. For him to sell his stuff on iTunes, he needs to have a rating that has to be paid for that is also run by the movie studios. Don't pay for the rating, can't distribute on iTunes much less advertise on broadcast networks.

Hollywood controls nearly every viable avenue when it comes to movies. The fact that Darth Vader still has not received residuals because Return of the Jedi still has yet to show a profit exposes the creative accounting that goes on. There is a reason Hollywood spends as much money as they do on lobbying and it's not because they want a level playing field to compete on.
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so with this logic does that make paris hilton your abe lincoln?
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This is wrong. Hollywood controls the majority of distribution channels from the theaters to most media stores to the actual ratings systems. It's a racket through and through.

While nothing is stopping Wheaton from getting investors, producing his own stuff, Hollywood and the distribution companies are still the gatekeepers. For him to sell his stuff on iTunes, he needs to have a rating that has to be paid for that is also run by the movie studios. Don't pay for the rating, can't distribute on iTunes much less advertise on broadcast networks.

Hollywood controls nearly every viable avenue when it comes to movies. The fact that Darth Vader still has not received residuals because Return of the Jedi still has yet to show a profit exposes the creative accounting that goes on. There is a reason Hollywood spends as much money as they do on lobbying and it's not because they want a level playing field to compete on.
I won't argue that they the major Hollywood players control most of the main distribution networks, but there are plenty of other options. Kevin Smith recently did what they call 4 walling for his last movie. He personally took it from town to town and did screenings then held Q&A sessions after the movie. He rented out independently owned theaters and cut all the middle men out of the deal.

A person could do that, then sell their DVD on their website and Amazon as well as other places and they potentially could get pay per view options and even license it to cable/TV.

It isn't an ideal situation, but it could be done and if it is done correctly a person potentially could make more than if they just starred in a movie someone else owned.
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I won't argue that they the major Hollywood players control most of the main distribution networks, but there are plenty of other options. Kevin Smith recently did what they call 4 walling for his last movie. He personally took it from town to town and did screenings then held Q&A sessions after the movie. He rented out independently owned theaters and cut all the middle men out of the deal.

A person could do that, then sell their DVD on their website and Amazon as well as other places and they potentially could get pay per view options and even license it to cable/TV.

It isn't an ideal situation, but it could be done and if it is done correctly a person potentially could make more than if they just starred in a movie someone else owned.
And how successful would kevin smith at promoting that run, if copyright holders had to sopa level censorship powers for his shit that should not be bit.
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And how successful would kevin smith at promoting that run, if copyright holders had to sopa level censorship powers for his shit that should not be bit.
I don't see how a law like SOPA would stop Kevin Smith from 4 walling his movie just like he did.
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as soon as he starred in one successful movie where he has a share in profit he's allowed to talk

and so are you, giddy
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I don't see how a law like SOPA would stop Kevin Smith from 4 walling his movie just like he did.
and how does he sell out the theaters then

he sells them out because he has an audience of 300k people listening to his pod cast

have you ever listen to it

http://shitthatshouldnotbe.com/


would die if he had to run around getting permission for all those clips

it is fair use commentary, that makes fun of fuck ups in movies (like companies are going to authorize that)
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as soon as he starred in one successful movie where he has a share in profit he's allowed to talk

and so are you, giddy
he was in star trek moron

that the point of reference for his complaint.
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and how does he sell out the theaters then

he sells them out because he has an audience of 300k people listening to his pod cast

have you ever listen to it

http://shitthatshouldnotbe.com/


would die if he had to run around getting permission for all those clips

it is fair use commentary, that makes fun of fuck ups in movies (like companies are going to authorize that)
I'm sure it is only his podcast and not the millions of fans he has built up over a career of making movies. IMDB says that Kevin Smith has directed 17 different things. Of what they have listed I have seen 7 of those. I am obviously not the biggest Kevin Smith fan in the world, but I do consider myself a fan of his and I have never heard of his podcast, yet I still heard about him taking Red State on the road.

Still, if he is using those clips in a legitimate fair use way he should still have no problem. If a copyright holder filed a complaint against him he might have to prove the fair use rights, but so long as he is not doing anything shady he should have no worries.
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he was in star trek moron

that the point of reference for his complaint.
first of all i said successful...

then i said with a share in profits

when you got your money already and dont give a shit how much profit something makes it's easy to talk

but who do i explain....
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you are truly delusional if you believe they are going because of his podcast.

hollywood has made him a very wealthy man.

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he sells them out because he has an audience of 300k people listening to his pod cast

have you ever listen to it

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it is fair use commentary, that makes fun of fuck ups in movies (like companies are going to authorize that)
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I'm sure it is only his podcast and not the millions of fans he has built up over a career of making movies. IMDB says that Kevin Smith has directed 17 different things. Of what they have listed I have seen 7 of those. I am obviously not the biggest Kevin Smith fan in the world, but I do consider myself a fan of his and I have never heard of his podcast, yet I still heard about him taking Red State on the road.
so know your arguing that you have to get fucked over by hollywood accounting 17 times and then you can finally get paid fairly

let me ask you a question what showing of red state did you go too?

as far as i am aware of he sold out every appearance using his smodcasts except for one

and he bitched about how much money he wasted because of the way he was forced to advertise that appearance to get oscar consideration.

http://www.movieline.com/2011/07/28/...ualifying-run/
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"using his smodcasts" fuck you are stupid lol. like really really neanderthal stupid.
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first of all i said successful...

then i said with a share in profits

when you got your money already and dont give a shit how much profit something makes it's easy to talk

but who do i explain....
star trek the next generation had many "profit sharing" parts to it, merchandising being a big one. Go to a convention ask any of those stars what they think of the likeness licencing deal.

they all got fucked up the ass on those deals because of hollywood accounting.
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I won't argue that they the major Hollywood players control most of the main distribution networks, but there are plenty of other options. Kevin Smith recently did what they call 4 walling for his last movie. He personally took it from town to town and did screenings then held Q&A sessions after the movie. He rented out independently owned theaters and cut all the middle men out of the deal.

A person could do that, then sell their DVD on their website and Amazon as well as other places and they potentially could get pay per view options and even license it to cable/TV.

It isn't an ideal situation, but it could be done and if it is done correctly a person potentially could make more than if they just starred in a movie someone else owned.
But the reason it worked for Kevin Smith is because he is Kevin Smith. He already has an established film career. For many new filmmakers with no installed fan base, it's damn near impossible.
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so know your arguing that you have to get fucked over by hollywood accounting 17 times and then you can finally get paid fairly

let me ask you a question what showing of red state did you go too?

as far as i am aware of he sold out every appearance using his smodcasts except for one

and he bitched about how much money he wasted because of the way he was forced to advertise that appearance to get oscar consideration.

http://www.movieline.com/2011/07/28/...ualifying-run/
He chose to enter into the Hollywood system. Nobody held a gun to his head and made him direct Cop Out. He did it because he was getting paid (and likely getting paid well) to do it. He chose to play the game, and now he is reaping the rewards of that game.

I didn't see a showing of Red State. I saw an interview with him about what his plans were as far as taking it around the country and he never did a screening in my city. Had he done a screening here I would have tried to get tickets to go see it.

Also, did you actually read the article you linked to? I just did and I didn't see him complaining at all about wasting money for Oscar consideration. He, along with help from Quentin Tarantino, arranged the screenings so that the cast could get considered for Oscars. He even says in the story that if you feel the $20 ticket price for those screenings is too much, skip it and in a couple of weeks you can get it on pay per view for $9.99. Please show me the part in the article where he is complaining about wasting money on those screenings. If he complains about anything it is when he says, "And if you don't want to pay to see it at all, you'll likely be able to download a Bit Torrent version for free by the end of the Red State Labor Day debut. And still, someone will bitch that even THAT costs too much somehow." that is him bitching at the freeloaders, not the Oscars.
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But the reason it worked for Kevin Smith is because he is Kevin Smith. He already has an established film career. For many new filmmakers with no installed fan base, it's damn near impossible.
That is why he can charge $65 per ticket for the showings where others would not be able to.

I know a guy named James Westby who writes and directs his own movies. He 4 walls most of his movies. He takes them from city to city and struck deals with local independent movie theaters. In some cases they split the ticket sales with him. In others he had to pay a flat fee to rent the building for his run and he kept all the profit. He actually does decently with them. He isn't getting rich, but he was getting his work out there and making enough money to cover his costs, live and pay for the budget for the next movie.

Recently he has worked as an editor on bigger budget movies and he has enough movies under his belt that he could potentially raise money and do something bigger, but he also knows that as soon as you bring in other people they want a say in how it is made and doesn't want to surrender that control.
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Old 01-26-2012, 06:54 PM   #49
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Also, did you actually read the article you linked to? I just did and I didn't see him complaining at all about wasting money for Oscar consideration. He, along with help from Quentin Tarantino, arranged the screenings so that the cast could get considered for Oscars. He even says in the story that if you feel the $20 ticket price for those screenings is too much, skip it and in a couple of weeks you can get it on pay per view for $9.99. Please show me the part in the article where he is complaining about wasting money on those screenings. If he complains about anything it is when he says, "And if you don't want to pay to see it at all, you'll likely be able to download a Bit Torrent version for free by the end of the Red State Labor Day debut. And still, someone will bitch that even THAT costs too much somehow." that is him bitching at the freeloaders, not the Oscars.
so let me get this fucking straight because a mainstream press article (controlled by the very system he complaining about) gave you a filtered version of his comment that must whole truth.

he sold out the shows in other cities at $65-$85 per seat thru the smodcast. He got reports thru the media about people complaining about paying $20 for this showing. And he address that issue with the press.


and surprise surprise they misrepresented his objection to model wrongfully categorized his showing as $20 rip off movie showing to be a complaint about his fans.


read thru the blogs

watch his sundance speach

listen to the blogs on smodcast

then come back after you heard the statements from the man directly.
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so let me get this fucking straight because a mainstream press article (controlled by the very system he complaining about) gave you a filtered version of his comment that must whole truth.

he sold out the shows in other cities at $65-$85 per seat thru the smodcast. He got reports thru the media about people complaining about paying $20 for this showing. And he address that issue with the press.


and surprise surprise they misrepresented his objection to model wrongfully categorized his showing as $20 rip off movie showing to be a complaint about his fans.


read thru the blogs

watch his sundance speach

listen to the blogs on smodcast

then come back after you heard the statements from the man directly.
I'm not reading through shit. I have better things to do. You claimed that he was complaining about having to waste a bunch of money to put on these showings so that his movie could qualify for the Oscars and you linked to an article as your "proof" of this. I read the article and there is no complaining in it and now it is my fault that I didn't read a dozen blogs and dig deep to find the once sentence that supports your narrative?

I don't really give a shit how he sold his tickets. I like the guy and am a fan of his movies and I'm glad this was a success for him no matter how it happened. If it was through his podcast, great. If it was because he was famous and got a lot of press about this tour great. None of this really matters to me.
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