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JFK · 02-22-2012, 09:42 AM

100..... trafic questions

ravo · 02-22-2012, 03:11 PM

While I agree that, generally speaking, bulk traffic does not work on paysites (there are some exceptions), it can be VERY effective for dating and cams sites.

Our last week as sending traffic to ihookup as an affiliate;

This is a combo of skimmed and popunder traffic that can be purchased for $1.50/K to $2.50/K, and sometimes less if you know where to look and how to negotiate. That means each signup to ihookup cost me about $38 in traffic. And, I certainly get paid a lot more than that per signup from loadedcash.

I know most here will cry 'bullshit', but I stand by my traffic, and have for the past 15 years. If you know what you are doing, buying traffic is a winning game.

ColBigBalls · 02-22-2012, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by fistinface

That's lunacy.

This is sparta?

ColBigBalls · 02-22-2012, 07:22 PM

Test it test it test it. I see on avg a 30% roi. Some time more some times less. I just wish i had more to spend atm lol

Jakez · 02-22-2012, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

After reading this thread, I have concluded that I am a fucking miracle worker.

DBS.US · 02-22-2012, 09:15 PM

How come the guys that say paid traffic makes them sales don't buy all of it?

porno jew · 02-22-2012, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBS.US

How come the guys that say paid traffic makes them sales don't buy all of it?

why don't people that buy links for seo buy every link for sale?

Paul Markham · 02-23-2012, 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ravo

While I agree that, generally speaking, bulk traffic does not work on paysites (there are some exceptions), it can be VERY effective for dating and cams sites.

Our last week as sending traffic to ihookup as an affiliate;

This is a combo of skimmed and popunder traffic that can be purchased for $1.50/K to $2.50/K, and sometimes less if you know where to look and how to negotiate. That means each signup to ihookup cost me about $38 in traffic. And, I certainly get paid a lot more than that per signup from loadedcash.

I know most here will cry 'bullshit', but I stand by my traffic, and have for the past 15 years. If you know what you are doing, buying traffic is a winning game.

So how hard is this to do?

Is it so complicated, so skill and talent demanding no one can copy you. Or is it something most people with a modicum of intelligence, so not me, can copy or do themselves?

Like the people selling the traffic?

And this is the situation as I see it. If getting traffic is hard, then doing what Ravo is doing must be extremely hard. Because those with the traffic are not able to do it or employ someone to do it.

Or getting traffic is easy and monetising it is some sort of rocket science.

Or the traffic acquirers are able to do no more than place an ad on a Tube site and then send the traffic to Ravo, or place his ad, popunder, etc on a Tube site.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBS.US

How come the guys that say paid traffic makes them sales don't buy all of it?

Why isn't Ravo cornering the market with his popunders? Good question DBS.

georgeyw · 02-23-2012, 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ravo

While I agree that, generally speaking, bulk traffic does not work on paysites (there are some exceptions), it can be VERY effective for dating and cams sites.

Our last week as sending traffic to ihookup as an affiliate;

This is a combo of skimmed and popunder traffic that can be purchased for $1.50/K to $2.50/K, and sometimes less if you know where to look and how to negotiate. That means each signup to ihookup cost me about $38 in traffic. And, I certainly get paid a lot more than that per signup from loadedcash.

I know most here will cry 'bullshit', but I stand by my traffic, and have for the past 15 years. If you know what you are doing, buying traffic is a winning game.

I tell you what I will buy a shit tonne of traffic from you if you make it convert so I make a profit

alextokyo · 02-23-2012, 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by revulsion

Just as I said. WTF. Is this hit bot or some shit.

You learned a couple of important lessons.

1. It's not that easy.

2. There was once a man who owned a hen that kept laying solid gold eggs. Needless to say, he didn't butcher the hen to sell it for meat.

Paul Markham · 02-23-2012, 04:19 AM

Why aren't people cornering the market on traffic?

Some are trying to. Manwin is one. And after they have squeezed every possible buyer out of it, they will let others buy it.

Like the Gold Rush in California, after everyone had squeezed all they could, the Chinese came in for the scraping left.

Getting traffic is easy. Getting a sale from that traffic isn't rocket science. Getting enough traffic to get enough sales to make a 6 figure living is very hard. I've met enough of the people claiming to do it, who sit all night clutching one drink.

All I had to do was find a cute girl every month and shoot her in the nude doing things to herself.

Now that was easy.

rowan · 02-23-2012, 06:23 AM

Paul: I sell my traffic so I don't need to fuck around trying to find what converts best this week. It actually makes me more than actual signups from my TGPs do now.

alextokyo · 02-23-2012, 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

All I had to do was find a cute girl every month and shoot her in the nude doing things to herself.

Now that was easy.

And yet, you STILL managed to make a dog's arsehole out of it.

ilnjscb · 02-23-2012, 08:23 AM

If you could just buy your way to wealth they would.

Specialization, one of the main benefits of civilization, allows for vertical markets.

Why doesn't GM or Walmart or anyone with access to mountains of cheap cash buy all their suppliers and their dealers?

I suppose that traffic guys like to sell traffic, and find the regularity of it better than the constant fine tuning that appears to be the purview of the affiliate. They may not have a big gain, but they have regular dependable revenue and the ability to forecast.

If the affiliate, who may like excitement and chasing a huge gain, likes to fine tune and share information and scheme and plan and test, he may triple his revenue or lose everything. High risk high reward.

Content sellers require a totally different skill set.

What is great is that affiliates work on commission. If only traffic sellers would

Choker · 02-23-2012, 09:13 AM

What's your user name in my system? I'm gonna refrain from defending myself until I see if you are telling truth or not.

Choker · 02-23-2012, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxupdate

same here i did a smaller test of 21,000 with no free sign ups ,CHOKER TRAFFIC sucks

drmadcat is your account name isn't it?

Paul Markham · 02-23-2012, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan

Paul: I sell my traffic so I don't need to fuck around trying to find what converts best this week. It actually makes me more than actual signups from my TGPs do now.

I understand that there are certain levels in all industries. Made my money as a shooter at that level, never printed my own magazine.

So how do you get your traffic?

Obviously if selling the traffic is making you more money than selling, it makes sense to sell it. Selling is less profitable than getting it, for you.

I suppose this is the same with a lot of traffic merchants, easy to just get the traffic and then sell it on for others to do the harder job of refining it and selling it something.

If my new idea floats, I might try some bought traffic. Will be interesting to see how it does.

However it seems to me, that with the ease of putting up a Tube site, 5K was a quote for a good one. The cheapness of hosting. Availability of content. It would be sensible to send all your traffic to a Tube with ads for dating, cams, penis, paysites and filter it yourself.

Good points ilnjscb

Actually GM and Walmart would, if they couldn't buy the stuff in cheap as possible from china. Many of the big stores have deals with producers that are as good as buying them. In fact better. Manwin is doing exactly what you point out.

Yes one of the benefits of selling traffic is if it doesn't work, it's always the buyers fault.

Why did this come to mind.

adultmobile · 02-23-2012, 11:41 AM

there's nothing more popular in gfy than a post about Chocker with lots of Paul markham posts in it.

2MuchMark · 02-23-2012, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ravo

While I agree that, generally speaking, bulk traffic does not work on paysites (there are some exceptions), it can be VERY effective for dating and cams sites.

It works, it doesn't. It works very well, but no, but yes, generally sometimes maybe.

My point in this thread is : Why gamble with your money? We all know that tracking our clicks gives us information that can increase our conversion. If the ad broker knew this too, they could help refine your traffic and increase conversion, almost guaranteeing repeat business.

Ero-Advertising.com already does this with their own pixel-code tracker. But for other ad brokers who don't have this, or even if they already do, why not track with Google Analytics?

Check this out:

Besides all of the other reporting the Google Analytics does, they now offer a conversion funnel-ish view of your traffic. You can see where people are coming from, and what pages will bounce your traffic.

If Revulsion had Google Anlaytics and shared read-access to it with Choker, and posted screenshots in this thread, then we could ALL learn what went wrong. Maybe Choker could improve his service, or maybe revulsion could improve his site or content.

I don't know myself if Choker's traffic is good or not but there would be no way to tell without actual data. Throwing up your hands and saying "it's crap" does not help anyone.

Rayo:

In your post above you said :

Quote:

Originally Posted by ravo

This is a combo of skimmed and popunder traffic that can be purchased for $1.50/K to $2.50/K, and sometimes less if you know where to look and how to negotiate. That means each signup to ihookup cost me about $38 in traffic. And, I certainly get paid a lot more than that per signup from loaded cash.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but it looks like your actual conversion rate is 1:19004 (247,061 uniques / 13 signups = 19004. You actually only get cash in your hand on "signup", not on "free", is that correct?

If you knew how much of the traffic was useless compared to what was really working for you, you would be spending alot less than $38 for each new sale and your conversions. Then assuming you would share this with your traffic source and they were cool with it, they would stop sending you the useless stuff and send you more of what really worked.

I am experimenting with a few different ad brokers because some of our own clients are lost when it comes to buying traffic. The concept of traffic, advertising, marketing, is completely lost on them. What I am hoping to do is to use GA in conjunction with a few good brokers to present an easy (sort of) way to advertise as efficiently as possible.

Choker · 02-23-2012, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxupdate

same here i did a smaller test of 21,000 with no free sign ups ,CHOKER TRAFFIC sucks

You bought 21k of non premium popunders which is shit like russian, south america, asia. Does chaturbate pay on those?

ilnjscb · 02-23-2012, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by **********

It works, it doesn't. It works very well, but no, but yes, generally sometimes maybe.

My point in this thread is : Why gamble with your money? We all know that tracking our clicks gives us information that can increase our conversion. If the ad broker knew this too, they could help refine your traffic and increase conversion, almost guaranteeing repeat business.

Ero-Advertising.com already does this with their own pixel-code tracker. But for other ad brokers who don't have this, or even if they already do, why not track with Google Analytics?

Check this out:

Besides all of the other reporting the Google Analytics does, they now offer a conversion funnel-ish view of your traffic. You can see where people are coming from, and what pages will bounce your traffic.

If Revulsion had Google Anlaytics and shared read-access to it with Choker, and posted screenshots in this thread, then we could ALL learn what went wrong. Maybe Choker could improve his service, or maybe revulsion could improve his site or content.

I don't know myself if Choker's traffic is good or not but there would be no way to tell without actual data. Throwing up your hands and saying "it's crap" does not help anyone.

Rayo:

In your post above you said :

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but it looks like your actual conversion rate is 1:19004 (247,061 uniques / 13 signups = 19004. You actually only get cash in your hand on "signup", not on "free", is that correct?

If you knew how much of the traffic was useless compared to what was really working for you, you would be spending alot less than $38 for each new sale and your conversions. Then assuming you would share this with your traffic source and they were cool with it, they would stop sending you the useless stuff and send you more of what really worked.

I am experimenting with a few different ad brokers because some of our own clients are lost when it comes to buying traffic. The concept of traffic, advertising, marketing, is completely lost on them. What I am hoping to do is to use GA in conjunction with a few good brokers to present an easy (sort of) way to advertise as efficiently as possible.

Bravo, Sir, Bravo! Well done!

Fletch XXX · 02-23-2012, 01:30 PM

Stats are being posted... Sound gong again stats are being posted.

dev777 · 02-23-2012, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile

Skimmed traffic sucks but not that much, I can understand as bad as 1:5k for free signs but an 1:100k it is sci-fi?

i believe he said 0:100k

2intense · 02-23-2012, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nextri

People who say you can't convert paid traffic, is people who don't know what they are doing.

xxxjay · 02-23-2012, 01:35 PM

Every time I've bought chocker traffic my sales have gone down on those days.

Worthless in every way possible!!

Jay

brassmonkey · 02-23-2012, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 2intense

2intense · 02-23-2012, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

anexsia · 02-23-2012, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2intense

Choker · 02-23-2012, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay

Every time I've bought chocker traffic my sales have gone down on those days.

Worthless in every way possible!!

Jay

You mean when you bought traffic to this site?

http://www.*************************/

2intense · 02-23-2012, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker

You mean when you bought traffic to this site?

http://www.*************************/

why you share your customer site ? you sucks

FlexxAeon · 02-23-2012, 01:46 PM

i was waiting for this thread to kick into popcorn mode and the moment has arrived...

Choker · 02-23-2012, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2intense

why you share your customer site ? you sucks

When someone makes a claim like this because they are butthurt about something I said about them of course I'm gonna ask them what they are talking about. SO it's okay to make claims against me without posting facts? xxxjay bought from me for four years straight, made several payments and kept on buying, If it's so bad why did he keep on paying? I have more than once made comments about what a joke I think his lords of porn shit is. Butthurt maybe? and now he's trying to take a swipe at me? whatever

ravo · 02-23-2012, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by **********

It works, it doesn't. It works very well, but no, but yes, generally sometimes maybe.

My point was that not *ALL* bulk traffic is bad. You just need to know what it's good for, and what it's not.

Quote:

Originally Posted by **********

But for other ad brokers who don't have this, or even if they already do, why not track with Google Analytics?

We do this as well. I work very closely with all my large buyers, to make sure they are getting the traffic that works best for them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by **********

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but it looks like your actual conversion rate is 1:19004 (247,061 uniques / 13 signups = 19004. You actually only get cash in your hand on "signup", not on "free", is that correct?

Correct. That's why I said it costs me $38 to get a signup. ie do the math; 19K hits @ $2/K (on average) = $38.

Quote:

Originally Posted by **********

If you knew how much of the traffic was useless compared to what was really working for you, you would be spending alot less than $38 for each new sale and your conversions. Then assuming you would share this with your traffic source and they were cool with it, they would stop sending you the useless stuff and send you more of what really worked.

Dude, I know *exactly* what works with ihookup, that's why I send them the traffic that I do. I've been working with AJ from loadedcash for over 2 years, and we continually talk to each other and refine things. We are both very open with our numbers with each other.

Quote:

Originally Posted by **********

I am experimenting with a few different ad brokers because some of our own clients are lost when it comes to buying traffic. The concept of traffic, advertising, marketing, is completely lost on them. What I am hoping to do is to use GA in conjunction with a few good brokers to present an easy (sort of) way to advertise as efficiently as possible.

This is an excellent idea. I find that most smaller traffic buyers are unsophisticated when it comes to their traffic buys. I try to educate them as much as I can, but there's no substitute for trial and error, and learning by doing.

Keeping robust traffic stats is a good start, and having the tools to analyze the data is critical. The days of throwing $1000 of traffic at a site and hoping to make money are long gone. To para-phrase Paul Markham; "Yes, it's rocket science".

Jakez · 02-23-2012, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker

You bought 21k of non premium popunders which is shit like russian, south america, asia. Does chaturbate pay on those?

Lol damn, you really overstep a lot. I understand you want to defend yourself but posting a screenshot of peoples stats within your business is simply unprofessional.

And the guy was probably confused anyways because it says "HQ" and "non premium" at the same time which would confuse anyone except you.

Edit: and you did it multiple times on this page for even the slightest remark. WTF is your malfunction?

porno jew · 02-23-2012, 03:08 PM

not professional to post customer's personal and private information. noted.

FlexxAeon · 02-23-2012, 03:15 PM

why is it unprofessional for choker to post up stats, but not unprofessional for affiliates to post up their bad (or good for that matter) ratios? it's no personal info, it's numbers

dave90210 · 02-23-2012, 03:18 PM

Wow even 0 signups in 21,000 popunders is very bad almost unbelievable. If this person did indeed buy 100,000 popunders and 0 sign ups then I would strongly suspect it's fake bot traffic.

For me on shit traffic I ave 1:1000 popunders.

Clicked traffic I average 1:100

Just Alex · 02-23-2012, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew

not professional to post customer's personal and private information. noted.

I don't see any private information.

Choker · 02-23-2012, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakez

Lol damn, you really overstep a lot. I understand you want to defend yourself but posting a screenshot of peoples stats within your business is simply unprofessional.

And the guy was probably confused anyways because it says "HQ" and "non premium" at the same time which would confuse anyone except you.

Edit: and you did it multiple times on this page for even the slightest remark. WTF is your malfunction?

Someone says they bought 21k of traffic from me no signups and I'm supposed to say ok. Overstepping is posting stats? The guy bought fucking chinese shit traffic sent it to chaturbate then makes a post that my traffic sucks. You think I'm gonna just sit here and take it? Yeah it's real unprofessional to post facts when someone makes claims against me isn't it? If you click on that link in the stats it tells you exactly what the traffic is.

Choker · 02-23-2012, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlexxAeon

why is it unprofessional for choker to post up stats, but not unprofessional for affiliates to post up their bad (or good for that matter) ratios? it's no personal info, it's numbers

Thing is I'm the only one posting stats, other posts are from dickheads who have a axe to grind with me. I'm posting facts not talking bullshit.

I'm not into GFY battles anymore so the trolls can carry on now. I will defend myself of course but I am not into the long drawn out battles anymore. Peeps will have to look elswhere for their entertainment.

PSD · 02-23-2012, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker

You bought 21k of non premium popunders which is shit like russian, south america, asia. Does chaturbate pay on those?

if it is shit, why label it as hq which to most people stands for high quality or is hq an abbreviation for something else, just curious.

Paul Markham · 02-23-2012, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker

You bought 21k of non premium popunders which is shit like russian, south america, asia. Does chaturbate pay on those?

= I sold you shit traffic.

Only in adult will someone post proof he bought 1/4 million hits and found 13 buyers to prove it was good.

For a few years in the 80s, prior to coming into porn full time, I was a sales manager. The one thing I knew were the excuses bad salesmen would come up with for the lack of sales. "Nobody's Buying Today." "We don't have what he needs." "He got it cheaper elsewhere." "The economies bad." And "It's a bad area to sell in."

Now we have "Shit Traffic." And 13-247,061 is good."

Choker, do you label it as "Shit Traffic" on your site or is that the excuse you give out after he spent his money?

Ravo 13 sales off 1/4 million hits is bloody awful. If that's the best you can do with "rocket science" get a new rocket.

What's happened to the porn industry where 100,000 of guys interested in porn, consuming porn ends up with 13 spending some money. Or a traffic seller openly admits he sells traffic that's extremely unlikely to buy anything?

Yes you rocket scientist made selling porn a very hard game.

Someone quote this so Choker sees it. He doesn't like answering me.

Choker · 02-23-2012, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCK

if it is shit, why label it as hq which to most people stands for high quality or is hq an abbreviation for something else, just curious.

It's high quality as far as they click on sites, but it's non premium as far as countries. I have lq np too which is like 37 cents per k. Every broker has shit chinese turkey etc traffic they sell cheap. I'm no different. I don't want these surfers hitting my sites so I sell them cheap. Lot's of guys buy this for youtube views. Every surfer has his uses. Sending third world country surfers to a cam site is not one of them. I don't know of any cam sites that even pay on them, I might be wrong though.

ravo · 02-23-2012, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Only in adult will someone post proof he bought 1/4 million hits and found 13 buyers to prove it was good.

I said nothing about quality. I only spoke to profitability. Learn the difference.

FlexxAeon · 02-23-2012, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker

T....I'm not into GFY battles anymore so the trolls can carry on now. I will defend myself of course but I am not into the long drawn out battles anymore. Peeps will have to look elswhere for their entertainment.

the fuck am i supposed to do with all this popcorn i just popped??

Fletch XXX · 02-23-2012, 03:57 PM

Yay popcorn

Jakez · 02-23-2012, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

= I sold you shit traffic.

HE BOUGHT THE TRAFFIC MORON! I don't buy a Geo Metro and then complain that the guy sold me a Geo Metro. The only thing there is worth pointing out there is that the traffic is labeled High Quality and Non Premium at the same time. But even still if you are going to spend money on something while ignoring the details then who's fault is that?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker

Someone says they bought 21k of traffic from me no signups and I'm supposed to say ok. Overstepping is posting stats? The guy bought fucking chinese shit traffic sent it to chaturbate then makes a post that my traffic sucks. You think I'm gonna just sit here and take it? Yeah it's real unprofessional to post facts when someone makes claims against me isn't it? If you click on that link in the stats it tells you exactly what the traffic is.

Then say "He bought a bunch of shit chinese traffic and tried to convert it at a cam site" and let the GFYers take that where they will. Posting detailed stats let alone a screenshot of their login area is not right no matter how you try to put it..

brassmonkey · 02-23-2012, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 2intense

Paul Markham · 02-23-2012, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ravo

I said nothing about quality. I only spoke to profitability. Learn the difference.

So how much did you spend for the hits and how much did you make?

247K @ 10 cents per k = $2470

13 joins at $25 = $325

$300 profit for your rocket science.

Of course if you paid more. Or got paid less. Over what time period?

I don't blame you for the state of this industry today. I blame all the idiots who thought paying so much to affiliates, giving them so many tools and competing to see who could give away the most free content. Was the right way to sell porn. It hurt everyone, except the weak who couldn't of survived in a tougher market.

Yes we have millions viewing porn every day and a few spending money.

Sly · 02-23-2012, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

247K @ 10 cents per k = $2470

I'm sorry Paul.

02-22-2012, 09:42 AM	#101
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02-23-2012, 04:19 AM	#111
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02-23-2012, 08:23 AM	#114
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02-23-2012, 09:13 AM	#115
Choker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Orlando Posts: 9,024	What's your user name in my system? I'm gonna refrain from defending myself until I see if you are telling truth or not. __________________ ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466 Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/ Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers. http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

02-23-2012, 11:41 AM	#118
adultmobile No, I am not banned Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: ChatGF.com Posts: 5,345	there's nothing more popular in gfy than a post about Chocker with lots of Paul markham posts in it. __________________ TubeCamGirl.com

02-23-2012, 01:30 PM	#122
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	Stats are being posted... Sound gong again stats are being posted. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

02-23-2012, 01:35 PM	#125
xxxjay Tube groupie. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: LoScandalous, CA Posts: 13,482	Every time I've bought chocker traffic my sales have gone down on those days. Worthless in every way possible!! Jay __________________ http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

02-23-2012, 01:46 PM	#131
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02-23-2012, 03:08 PM	#135
porno jew Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,166	not professional to post customer's personal and private information. noted.

02-23-2012, 03:15 PM	#136
FlexxAeon Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,765	why is it unprofessional for choker to post up stats, but not unprofessional for affiliates to post up their bad (or good for that matter) ratios? it's no personal info, it's numbers __________________ flexx [dot] aeon [at] gmail

02-23-2012, 03:18 PM	#137
dave90210 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,745	Wow even 0 signups in 21,000 popunders is very bad almost unbelievable. If this person did indeed buy 100,000 popunders and 0 sign ups then I would strongly suspect it's fake bot traffic. For me on shit traffic I ave 1:1000 popunders. Clicked traffic I average 1:100

02-23-2012, 03:57 PM	#146
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	Yay popcorn __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me