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Jakez · 02-23-2012, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

..calculations pulled out of my ass (and bad math)...
..paying so much to affiliates...giving them so many tools... give away the most free content..
...millions viewing porn every day and a few spending money.

ThumbLord · 02-23-2012, 04:25 PM

If you know what you are doing and have good landing page(s) and have a crew and/or person(s) to check your stats and a good relationship with either the owner and/or his crew/representatives you CAN and WILL make a profit.
Yes it is hard work but heh buying traffic and know what you are doing will make you a profit.
I am sorry but that is the fucking truth.

PSD · 02-23-2012, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

It's high quality as far as they click on sites, but it's non premium as far as countries. I have lq np too which is like 37 cents per k. Every broker has shit chinese turkey etc traffic they sell cheap. I'm no different. I don't want these surfers hitting my sites so I sell them cheap. Lot's of guys buy this for youtube views. Every surfer has his uses. Sending third world country surfers to a cam site is not one of them. I don't know of any cam sites that even pay on them, I might be wrong though.

Understood, I checked Chaturbate's affiliate TOS and they only pay for the following countries. While it includes Russia in the last tier overall it appears premium traffic would indeed have been a better match for this site and others like it.

Tier 1: Netherlands Antilles Austria Australia Belgium Canada Switzerland Germany Denmark Finland Falkland Islands (Malvinas) Faroe Islands France United Kingdom Guernsey Gibraltar Greenland Ireland Iceland Jersey Japan Liechtenstein Luxembourg Netherlands Norway Qatar Sweden Singapore San Marino United States Minor Outlying Islands United States United States Virgin Islands

Tier 2: United Arab Emirates Aruba Brunei Darussalam Brazil the Bahamas Cyprus Spain Equatorial Guinea Greece Hong Kong Israel Isle of Man Italy South Korea Kuwait Cayman Islands Macau Macao New Zealand French Polynesia Puerto Rico Portugal Slovenia British Virgin Islands

Tier 3: Antigua and Barbuda Anguilla Barbados Bahrain Cook Islands Chile Czech Republic Estonia Guam Croatia Hungary Saint Kitts and Nevis Lebanon Lithuania Latvia Northern Mariana Islands Malta Mexico New Caledonia Oman Poland Russia Saudi Arabia Seychelles Slovakia Turkey Trinidad and Tobago Taiwan Uruguay Venezuela

It might help you and your customers if you compiled a list of popular affiliate cam site domains and when someone submits a order for non premium traffic and the destination domain matches one of the cam site domains you could show a message that explains why they might want to upgrade to traffic from premium countries.

georgeyw · 02-23-2012, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by paul markham

247k @ 10 cents per k = $2470

247 * .1 = $24.70

xxxjay · 02-23-2012, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

You mean when you bought traffic to this site?

http://www.*************************/

Nah dood, I've been buying traffic from your dumb ass since you started....go look up my account, it's 'xxxjay'...I've tried every way to try and make you traffic work and it always sucks...

Nothing personal.

DVTimes · 02-23-2012, 04:35 PM

use these chaps:

http://www.plugrush.com/?ref=924

D Ghost · 02-23-2012, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US

If the traffic could make more sales on Chaturbate why would they sell it to you?

Yes, because clearly all advertising networks on the internet try every single affiliate program out before brokering it to advertisers. You know, to see if they can make sales with it. <-- WHAT?! You cannot be serious.

Ad networks are not in the business of sending traffic to affiliate programs. They are in the business of brokering advertising space.

I've heard this argument so many times it's ridiculous. "Well if the traffic was so great, then why would the publisher be selling it?" This is a moot point. Publishers (in mainstream or adult) sell their ad space for a variety of reasons. Pertaining specifically to affiliate programs, they would rather get paid a fair amount for their traffic and not have to wonder if they'll ever get a check from an affiliate program.

SleazyDream · 02-23-2012, 05:14 PM

am I choker's biggest fan? no. that's obvious.
does choker have the best traffic out there, NO. even he would agree on that point.

what you idiots should say is choker's traffic doesn't work FOR YOU.

fact is, choker wouldn't still be here is some people didn't find it profitable.

the problem is, the idiots think is someone else can do it, then they can too.
it doesn't always work like that.

choker doesn't give away money. But for many people, those with a few more iq points then the average idiot, he has traffic you can make money from.

D Ghost · 02-23-2012, 05:17 PM

Oh yes, why would Clear Channel sell radio advertisements to advertisers? When clearly they should be trying to advertise different affiliate programs and products to make sales for themselves. Because obviously, if they are selling radio commercial airtime, they must not have been able to monetize it. <- LOL

SlammedMedia · 02-23-2012, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Quoted for truth...
WG

I love how you put "WG" after everything you say, it's so cool.

xxxjay · 02-23-2012, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Never bought any of chokers traffic and never would buy any traffic for that matter, but reading so many threads on his traffic not converting and all the time and money trying to get it to convert? Would it not just be easier to learn how to get targeted traffic on your own? - It's really not that hard.

Amen.

If you have good traffic, why would you sell it?

I've been saying that for years.

rowan · 02-23-2012, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So how much did you spend for the hits and how much did you make?

247K @ 10 cents per k = $2470

13 joins at $25 = $325

$300 profit for your rocket science.

Of course if you paid more. Or got paid less. Over what time period?

I think you missed a couple of decimal places in your calculations.

Also, Ravo already said the traffic cost $1.50 - $2.50/k, where are you getting 10c from?

Choker · 02-23-2012, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

Nah dood, I've been buying traffic from your dumb ass since you started....go look up my account, it's 'xxxjay'...I've tried every way to try and make you traffic work and it always sucks...

Nothing personal.

I did, you kept buying for over 4 years. If it's not gonna work you should have figured it out in a month, not almost 5 years. But then again looking at your 1995 style sites, I understand why you are so slow to figure anything out.

Nothing personal.

D Ghost · 02-23-2012, 05:33 PM

If you are calling traffic online "hits" you should not be doing business online.

rowan · 02-23-2012, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dave90210

Wow even 0 signups in 21,000 popunders is very bad almost unbelievable. If this person did indeed buy 100,000 popunders and 0 sign ups then I would strongly suspect it's fake bot traffic.

For me on shit traffic I ave 1:1000 popunders.

Clicked traffic I average 1:100

Choker has already stated that it's traffic from countries that are associated with billing issues, fraud, and generally just being tight asses. Many programs will probably not pay for this and it's probably impossible half the time to even bill them (ever seen a ccbill signup from China?)

This is the sort of stuff you use to beef up your stats or grow a trading site, not make sales.

BAKO · 02-23-2012, 05:36 PM

I buy from choker and I never lost a single penny

Choker · 02-23-2012, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Never bought any of chokers traffic and never would buy any traffic for that matter, but reading so many threads on his traffic not converting and all the time and money trying to get it to convert? Would it not just be easier to learn how to get targeted traffic on your own? - It's really not that hard.

So many? This is the first one I have seen in a long long time. And it's bullshit. OP doesnt want to say what his account name is how do I even know if he's making this up or not. XXXPROFILES did buy 21k but it was third world that chaturbate doesnt even pay on. How is that my fault? I've been around 11 years and gained a few enemies so yeah people are gonna make up shit about me. It's been this way for over 10 years, not gonna stop anytime soon.

D Ghost · 02-23-2012, 05:36 PM

Yes, because clearly all advertising networks on the internet try every single affiliate program out before brokering it to advertisers. You know, to see if they can make sales with it. <-- WHAT?! You cannot be serious.

Ad networks are not in the business of sending traffic to affiliate programs. They are in the business of brokering advertising space.

I've heard this argument so many times it's ridiculous. "Well if the traffic was so great, then why would the publisher be selling it?" This is a moot point. Publishers (in mainstream or adult) sell their ad space for a variety of reasons. Pertaining specifically to affiliate programs, they would rather get paid a fair amount for their traffic and not have to wonder if they'll ever get a check from an affiliate program (just a thought).

Oh yes, why would Clear Channel sell radio advertisements to advertisers? When clearly they should be trying to advertise different affiliate programs and products to make sales for themselves. Because obviously, if they are selling radio commercial airtime, they must not have been able to monetize it. <- LOL

Choker · 02-23-2012, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

Amen.

If you have good traffic, why would you sell it?

I've been saying that for years.

Finally, now you reveal why without your membership in the "bro" club you would be slinging sliders at Burger King.

Nothing Personal. LOL

brassmonkey · 02-23-2012, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

I did, you kept buying for over 4 years. If it's not gonna work you should have figured it out in a month, not almost 5 years. But then again looking at your 1995 style sites, I understand why you are so slow to figure anything out.

Nothing personal.

AllAboutCams · 02-23-2012, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

You bought 21k of non premium popunders which is shit like russian, south america, asia. Does chaturbate pay on those?

you could have told me why but no you made a personal attack
did i lie about buying the traffic (no)
will i buy traffic from you again (no)
p.s. with trafficshop really cheap traffic converts at 1:1500

thank you so much

Choker · 02-23-2012, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxupdate

you could have told me why but no you made a personal attack
did i lie about buying the traffic (no)
will i buy traffic from you again (no)
p.s. with trafficshop really cheap traffic converts at 1:1500

thank you so much

Trafficshops third world traffic magically converts 1:1500 on chaturbate with chaturbate not even accepting signups from them? Wow that's some magical traffic. You sir made the personal attack by slamming my shit on a public BBS board. You bought third world traffic to a site that does not accept signups from them, then you say my shit sucks on a public board. Are you even man enough to admit you are the one that fucked up? That it has nothing to do with my traffic, it has to do with what YOU bought.
If you would have asked me BEFORE you purchased this I would have recomended US UK CA AU traffic, not the third world traffic you bought. My "personal attack" is a direct result of your "personal attack" against me on again, a PUBLIC BBS BOARD.

ravo · 02-23-2012, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So how much did you spend for the hits and how much did you make?

247K @ 10 cents per k = $2470

13 joins at $25 = $325

$300 profit for your rocket science.

Of course if you paid more. Or got paid less. Over what time period?

I don't blame you for the state of this industry today. I blame all the idiots who thought paying so much to affiliates, giving them so many tools and competing to see who could give away the most free content. Was the right way to sell porn. It hurt everyone, except the weak who couldn't of survived in a tougher market.

Yes we have millions viewing porn every day and a few spending money.

Paul, you obviously didn't read my post. All the answers to your questions are there;

- I spent $38 per join for the traffic I bought
- I made much more than $38/sign up. I didn't realize how far out of the loop you were. Dating joins are worth between $55 and $120 each, not $25.
- The stats clearly show this was over a 7 day period.

AllAboutCams · 02-23-2012, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Trafficshops third world traffic magically converts 1:1500 on chaturbate with chaturbate not even accepting signups from them? Wow that's some magical traffic. You sir made the personal attack by slamming my shit on a public BBS board. You bought third world traffic to a site that does not accept signups from them, then you say my shit sucks on a public board. Are you even man enough to admit you are the one that fucked up? That it has nothing to do with my traffic, it has to do with what YOU bought.
If you would have asked me BEFORE you purchased this I would have recomended US UK CA AU traffic, not the third world traffic you bought. My "personal attack" is a direct result of your "personal attack" against me on again, a PUBLIC BBS BOARD.

so why do i get sign ups if it does not convert with traffic shop
your getting mad because i said it sucks, ok i fucked up and purchased traffic that said it was (pop-hq-non-premium-general) were does that say third world traffic i was not expecting 1:100
so yes its all my fault i fucked up

here is the list of Countries for chaturbate sign ups
Tier 1: Netherlands Antilles Austria Australia Belgium Canada Switzerland Germany Denmark Finland Falkland Islands (Malvinas) Faroe Islands France United Kingdom Guernsey Gibraltar Greenland Ireland Iceland Jersey Japan Liechtenstein Luxembourg Netherlands Norway Qatar Sweden Singapore San Marino United States Minor Outlying Islands United States United States Virgin Islands
Tier 2: United Arab Emirates Aruba Brunei Darussalam Brazil the Bahamas Cyprus Spain Equatorial Guinea Greece Hong Kong Israel Isle of Man Italy South Korea Kuwait Cayman Islands Macau Macao New Zealand French Polynesia Puerto Rico Portugal Slovenia British Virgin Islands
Tier 3: Antigua and Barbuda Anguilla Barbados Bahrain Cook Islands Chile Czech Republic Estonia Guam Croatia Hungary Saint Kitts and Nevis Lebanon Lithuania Latvia Northern Mariana Islands Malta Mexico New Caledonia Oman Poland Russia Saudi Arabia Seychelles Slovakia Turkey Trinidad and Tobago Taiwan Uruguay Venezuela

Choker · 02-23-2012, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Relax, I understand your point and at one time I sold sites/networks totaling millions of dollars over a decade and understand you can NOT make them all happy as the most ignorant scream the loudest and most often. You'll rarely get whomever starting threads on how good your traffic is or how to convert it optimally. Why would they? - As this is the business you're in.

My point was/is if they did spend the time and effort to learn how to convert your traffic optimally, they're halfway there and learning how to generate their own better targeted traffic as this is much easier then they think.

If I were new in the biz and could NOT convert your traffic it means 2 things. I don't know what I am doing or your traffic is truly shit, but it's a gain anyway because I've learned through "A" traffic source how to optimize my Network the best I could.

Meaning, I got my network up and rolling and CAN make mistakes as you learn how to run a network, rather then making critical network mistakes with optimal traffic. In short, it's worth the investment to buy your traffic as I highly suggest you use that pitch when threads like these come about.

Anyway, for some reason I feel compelled to help people in this forum seeing so many struggle and thinking of starting a project/thread where I take an average webmaster here, hold his hand and walk him through a proven (basic) marketing method as he then updates his progress and positive targeted traffic results.

The problem? The correct tools and network would cost a minimum of $2500 as this would wipe out 90% of the average webmasters here.

Good points. Whenever I see a post titled "I bought great traffic from blah" I know right off the top of my head they are making that thread to help out a brother. Nobody wants other buyers buying the same traffic they buy if they are making money off it. So yeah happy buyers never post only unhappy ones post.

I get probably on average 10 icqs a day and maybe 3 to 5 phone calls from new potential buyers. I turn them all away except guys who own their own programs and know what they are doing. I am 95% sold out and have been for a long time. When a new buyer makes a order his order takes traffic away from current buyers. I sell everything I have and have been for some time. Sometimes I will get a flood of popunders then I will solicit buyers but I do that so I have many buyers for that traffic so if one stops buying all of it is still sold to other buyers.

People tell me all the time that they need 100k a day of US traffic. My reply is always the same: If you can find a broker with 100k a day of unsold US traffic laying around, what does that tell you? If it was decent traffic and priced good it would not be laying around unsold.

I see some brokers coming in every thread that has the word traffic in it spamming thier shit. Make a thread that blahs traffic sucks and man they will post away in that thread. What does that tell you?

2MuchMark · 02-23-2012, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ The Kid

Oh yes, why would Clear Channel sell radio advertisements to advertisers? When clearly they should be trying to advertise different affiliate programs and products to make sales for themselves. Because obviously, if they are selling radio commercial airtime, they must not have been able to monetize it. <- LOL

Not true. Clearchannel or any other channel can't know that the product or service someone is offering is any good, nor should they care. They deliver the ears - its up to the advertiser to make the ad as interesting as possible. It is the exact same thing as buying banner impressions.

D Ghost · 02-23-2012, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by **********

Not true. Clearchannel or any other channel can't know that the product or service someone is offering is any good, nor should they care. They deliver the ears - its up to the advertiser to make the ad as interesting as possible. It is the exact same thing as buying banner impressions.

Yes I know, I was being sarcastic in that statement

See my earlier comments, in response to people who that "if the traffic is so great, why would a publisher be selling it" ...

<sarcasm>Yes, because clearly all advertising networks on the internet try every single affiliate program out before brokering it to advertisers. You know, to see if they can make sales with it.</sarcasm> <-- WHAT?! You cannot be serious.

Ad networks are not in the business of sending traffic to affiliate programs. They are in the business of brokering advertising space.

I've heard this argument so many times it's ridiculous. "Well if the traffic was so great, then why would the publisher be selling it?" This is a moot point. Publishers (in mainstream or adult) sell their ad space for a variety of reasons. Pertaining specifically to affiliate programs, they would rather get paid a fair amount for their traffic and not have to wonder if they'll ever get a check from an affiliate program (just a thought).

AllAboutCams · 02-23-2012, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Good points. Whenever I see a post titled "I bought great traffic from blah" I know right off the top of my head they are making that thread to help out a brother. Nobody wants other buyers buying the same traffic they buy if they are making money off it. So yeah happy buyers never post only unhappy ones post.

I get probably on average 10 icqs a day and maybe 3 to 5 phone calls from new potential buyers. I turn them all away except guys who own their own programs and know what they are doing. I am 95% sold out and have been for a long time. When a new buyer makes a order his order takes traffic away from current buyers. I sell everything I have and have been for some time. Sometimes I will get a flood of popunders then I will solicit buyers but I do that so I have many buyers for that traffic so if one stops buying all of it is still sold to other buyers.

People tell me all the time that they need 100k a day of US traffic. My reply is always the same: If you can find a broker with 100k a day of unsold US traffic laying around, what does that tell you? If it was decent traffic and priced good it would not be laying around unsold.

I see some brokers coming in every thread that has the word traffic in it spamming thier shit. Make a thread that blahs traffic sucks and man they will post away in that thread. What does that tell you?

what about the guy that purchased 100k and got no sign ups?

ilnjscb · 02-23-2012, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Good points. Whenever I see a post titled "I bought great traffic from blah" I know right off the top of my head they are making that thread to help out a brother. Nobody wants other buyers buying the same traffic they buy if they are making money off it. So yeah happy buyers never post only unhappy ones post.

I get probably on average 10 icqs a day and maybe 3 to 5 phone calls from new potential buyers. I turn them all away except guys who own their own programs and know what they are doing. I am 95% sold out and have been for a long time. When a new buyer makes a order his order takes traffic away from current buyers. I sell everything I have and have been for some time. Sometimes I will get a flood of popunders then I will solicit buyers but I do that so I have many buyers for that traffic so if one stops buying all of it is still sold to other buyers.

People tell me all the time that they need 100k a day of US traffic. My reply is always the same: If you can find a broker with 100k a day of unsold US traffic laying around, what does that tell you? If it was decent traffic and priced good it would not be laying around unsold.

I see some brokers coming in every thread that has the word traffic in it spamming thier shit. Make a thread that blahs traffic sucks and man they will post away in that thread. What does that tell you?

Now THIS is good information

D Ghost · 02-23-2012, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

People tell me all the time that they need 100k a day of US traffic. My reply is always the same: If you can find a broker with 100k a day of unsold US traffic laying around, what does that tell you? If it was decent traffic and priced good it would not be laying around unsold.

I strongly disagree with this. Many ad networks (like JuicyAds, Ero Advertising, AdXPansion, Google AdWords, AdBrite, Chitika, ValueClick, Casale Media, Tribal Fusion, Burst Media, Kontera, Bidvertiser) have "100K US a day" (or far more) traffic available. Just because the inventory is available doesn't mean it is "low quality" - there are too many variables to make such a vague statement.

The traffic was always "unsold" and available at some point. However, the impressions/clicks are not sold in blocks of 50K or 100K though since most are bid CPC campaigns.

Optimization needs to be occurring for any successful ad campaign. Each campaign is unique, as is each individual ad impression that occurs. What works for one advertiser may not work for another. So simply saying "that is not quality traffic" is a moot point.

anexsia · 02-23-2012, 10:09 PM

So besides sending traffic to a tube or tgp to get trades going, what are some things you would buy traffic for? Do affiliates purchase high-quality traffic to send directly to paysites or landing pages?

I know some of the traffic has to convert because I sell my mobile to Juicy Ads and it's not because it won't convert, it's just because I don't know what I should be doing with it. So if I'm doing that I know there's plenty of others in the same boat selling traffic that converts.

D Ghost · 02-23-2012, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by anexsia

So besides sending traffic to a tube or tgp to get trades going, what are some things you would buy traffic for? Do affiliates purchase high-quality traffic to send directly to paysites or landing pages?

I know some of the traffic has to convert because I sell my mobile to Juicy Ads and it's not because it won't convert, it's just because I don't know what I should be doing with it.

There are a multitude of options in these cases. We do have affiliates advertising products/sites from affiliate programs, and affiliate programs themselves advertising directly.

For publishers I see many reasons they might have ad space. Here are a few...

- Site owners sending their traffic to affiliate programs AND selling ad space (multiple monetization methods)
- Publishers only selling ad space (they may not want to deal with joining multiple affiliate programs. They like the convenience of just selling it outright and getting paid for their ad sales).

We provide a service to broker and get your space sold for you. We do the legwork of finding advertisers to buy your space and get your inventory sold

Sites like CNN.com, HuffingtonPost, TechCrunch sell ad space. Just because they aren't sending it directly to an affiliate program themselves doesn't mean their traffic is low quality. It's just not their business model.

Paul Markham · 02-24-2012, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

I'm sorry Paul.

Whoops missed out the . Yes buying in the traffic as cheap as that would bring a nice healthy profit, assuming it's the majors costs. I don't know the others. That's for him to point out.

For a days work it's not to bad at all today. $2k+ a week. For a slice of a weeks work it's nice. but it's still 100,000s of people looking at some form of porn site and the return in $$ is pretty poor.

seolinker · 02-24-2012, 12:06 AM

Between $55 and $120 ?

Why AJ paid me $35 for each then ??????

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Originally Posted by ravo

Paul, you obviously didn't read my post. All the answers to your questions are there;

- I spent $38 per join for the traffic I bought
- I made much more than $38/sign up. I didn't realize how far out of the loop you were. Dating joins are worth between $55 and $120 each, not $25.
- The stats clearly show this was over a 7 day period.

Roald · 02-24-2012, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So how much did you spend for the hits and how much did you make?

247K @ 10 cents per k = $2470

13 joins at $25 = $325

$300 profit for your rocket science.

Of course if you paid more. Or got paid less. Over what time period?

I don't blame you for the state of this industry today. I blame all the idiots who thought paying so much to affiliates, giving them so many tools and competing to see who could give away the most free content. Was the right way to sell porn. It hurt everyone, except the weak who couldn't of survived in a tougher market.

Yes we have millions viewing porn every day and a few spending money.

He said its costing him $38 per signup and he is getting more than that per signup. So what does it matter? He is making a profit from low priced traffic.

Sly · 02-24-2012, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by anexsia

I know some of the traffic has to convert because I sell my mobile to Juicy Ads and it's not because it won't convert, it's just because I don't know what I should be doing with it. So if I'm doing that I know there's plenty of others in the same boat selling traffic that converts.

What's the best way to get in touch with you? There are a few things I would like to chat about. You can e-mail me at [email protected] . I also have ICQ and Skype.

georgeyw · 02-24-2012, 02:05 PM

Choker - question for you.

What does the following mean to you?

pop-hq-non-premium-general

brassmonkey · 02-24-2012, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by georgeyw

Choker - question for you.

What does the following mean to you?

pop-hq-non-premium-general

hq= high quality? meaning non premium

adultmobile · 02-24-2012, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by georgeyw

Choker - question for you.

What does the following mean to you?

pop-hq-non-premium-general

Yes this is confusing, the "non premium" may refer to anything, but "HQ" is usually meaning (in trafficshop, trafficholder for example) High Quality geo = a list of us ca au de fr it es so north america + west europe, which is actually the only traffic you may want to buy. Now Choker said this was 3rd world countries i.e. cn in tr id etc., and this make obvious the guy got 0:100k conversion with "non hq" countries geo.
Even in the tubecamgirl program we launched this month (which resemble the one of chaturbate), we call "HQ" countries those that we pay for (we made it much like the tier 1 of chaturbate, just we have there italy and new zealand more, but a japan less) - and LQ the ones we not pay for (china, india..).
So it can be super confusing enough for a guy sending us "pop_HQ" traffic after read our HQ countries list, as well as someone used to trafficholder's HQ labeled traffic.

Ok th new guys are always noob enough to fail even if there are instructions. But, in trafficholder, every time you have an "all countries" or simply not an HQ country listed as filter, at submission of campaign it always warns "you will be get trash countries traffic, are you sure?", such message is scary and make sure the guy knows he's be bombing the link with indonesian, pakistani, ukrainian and chinese army.

Note I purchased from choker several million hits and he initially had setup all the campaigns in my behalf, he was very helpful; I remember there was AU_US_CA or something like that labels, then later I used the panel on my own and I made no mistakes myself, still I advise choker to add scary warning "you're getting third world countries trash traffic who may buy nothing" for who selects that (like other broker panels do), plus to rename low quality countries so no any "HQ" texts are present anywhere.

PS: about low quality countries.. I do get paying users from HR, RS = croatia, serbia... amazing enough some good guys in ex yugoslavia - better then some "HQ" countries.
Also note the HQ countries of trafficshop includes hungary and lots of that, I don't agree with that

FlexxAeon · 02-24-2012, 02:40 PM

pop-hq-non-premium-general = pop up from a high quality site, but understand that pop up traffic is not premium traffic

anexsia · 02-24-2012, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by georgeyw

Choker - question for you.

What does the following mean to you?

pop-hq-non-premium-general

I see what you did there...

lazycash · 02-24-2012, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ravo

Paul, you obviously didn't read my post. All the answers to your questions are there;

- I spent $38 per join for the traffic I bought
- I made much more than $38/sign up. I didn't realize how far out of the loop you were. Dating joins are worth between $55 and $120 each, not $25.
- The stats clearly show this was over a 7 day period.

What's scary though is that you chose to post those particular stats as to attest to the profitability of your network's traffic. 90% of loadedcash's affiliates make $35-40/sale, completely negating the profit margin only you and a few others have.

lazycash · 02-24-2012, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxupdate

what about the guy that purchased 100k and got no sign ups?

Lol, so you are drmadcat, why the multiple nicks? Just like you, he most likely was a dumbass and bought traffic from countries that chaturbate doesn't even pay free signups on. He says it was "premium" traffic, so Choker can you confirm what kind of traffic the thread starter bought?

ravo · 02-24-2012, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

What's scary though is that you chose to post those particular stats as to attest to the profitability of your network's traffic. 90% of loadedcash's affiliates make $35-40/sale, completely negating the profit margin only you and a few others have.

I was trying to point out that bulk traffic can be profitable (contrary to what the posters above me were saying).

What works for me, may not work for you, and vice-versa - and that's another important point about traffic. You have to figure out what works best with your particular sources. For example, I can't get chaturbate to work for me, no matter what I try - I've never made money with them.

I could have just as easily posted my xxxmatch or ashleymadison stats, to show that purchased traffic can be profitable. But, it looks it might have been a mistake to post *any* type of stats. My bad.

I'm going back to work...

Choker · 02-24-2012, 05:10 PM

Not attempting to sound like a big shot, but I invented these terms for my system many years ago. Other brokers copied my shit, down to small details like the term I invented CPPC which stands for cost per productive click. I pulled that term out of my ass.
It's real simple. A country is either premium or non-premium. Premium meaning countries with credit cards mostly western europe us,ca,au etc

I have several different levels of quality and price them accordingly, I have PQ LQ MQ HQ GQ (golden Quality). Unlike other brokers I adjust my prices in real time according to their quality. hq_non-premium is a surfer from a third world country that clicks a lot. lq_non-premium would be a third world surfer that doesnt click a lot on sites he is sent to.

It would make even less sense to name countires hi and low quality then what am I gonna name the others? poor premium, low premium etc? LOL

Because someone does their naming different does not make them right or wrong nor does it make me right or wrong. My buyers prefer the way I have it set up, theres always going to be someone who is confused, but guess what? these descriptions are clickable text links that opens a small window that explains what it is.

lazycash · 02-24-2012, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Not attempting to sound like a big shot, but I invented these terms for my system many years ago. Other brokers copied my shit, down to small details like the term I invented CPPC which stands for cost per productive click. I pulled that term out of my ass.
It's real simple. A country is either premium or non-premium. Premium meaning countries with credit cards mostly western europe us,ca,au etc

I have several different levels of quality and price them accordingly, I have PQ LQ MQ HQ GQ (golden Quality). Unlike other brokers I adjust my prices in real time according to their quality. hq_non-premium is a surfer from a third world country that clicks a lot. lq_non-premium would be a third world surfer that doesnt click a lot on sites he is sent to.

It would make even less sense to name countires hi and low quality then what am I gonna name the others? poor premium, low premium etc? LOL

Because someone does their naming different does not make them right or wrong nor does it make me right or wrong. My buyers prefer the way I have it set up, theres always going to be someone who is confused, but guess what? these descriptions are clickable text links that opens a small window that explains what it is.

So did the thread starter indeed get 100k of US/CA/Euro traffic or something else?

Choker · 02-24-2012, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

So did the thread starter indeed get 100k of US/CA/Euro traffic or something else?

Well he has not replied with his user name. I did a quick search and did not see but one buyer that bought over 50k to chaturbate, and they bought a lot more than 100k and is a professional company, I doubt it was them making this claim. The op has what 19 posts on GFY? Does anybody know who the OP is?

ErectMedia · 02-24-2012, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by anexsia

So besides sending traffic to a tube or tgp to get trades going, what are some things you would buy traffic for?

Buying skimmed/blind cheap traffic usually good to boost trades/lower alexa.

Buy text links/thumbs with text descriptions geo targeted from high quality countries US,CA,UK,AU,NZ etc... when looking for sales.

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Originally Posted by anexsia

Do affiliates purchase high-quality traffic to send directly to paysites or landing pages?

I have been buying higher quality traffic for the last 9 years or so. Analytics combined with tracking codes for each program does the job and shows me sign ups/sales for each broker/traffic source individually.

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Rothstein · 02-24-2012, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxupdate

i love traffic shop but when i tried out the cam traffic i did not get one sign up and it cost 5x as much as normal traffic

Seriously, go away, you are fucking retarded.

02-23-2012, 04:25 PM	#152
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02-23-2012, 04:35 PM	#156
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02-23-2012, 05:14 PM	#158
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02-23-2012, 05:36 PM	#168
D Ghost null Industry Role: Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 9,820	Yes, because clearly all advertising networks on the internet try every single affiliate program out before brokering it to advertisers. You know, to see if they can make sales with it. <-- WHAT?! You cannot be serious. Ad networks are not in the business of sending traffic to affiliate programs. They are in the business of brokering advertising space. I've heard this argument so many times it's ridiculous. "Well if the traffic was so great, then why would the publisher be selling it?" This is a moot point. Publishers (in mainstream or adult) sell their ad space for a variety of reasons. Pertaining specifically to affiliate programs, they would rather get paid a fair amount for their traffic and not have to wonder if they'll ever get a check from an affiliate program (just a thought). Oh yes, why would Clear Channel sell radio advertisements to advertisers? When clearly they should be trying to advertise different affiliate programs and products to make sales for themselves. Because obviously, if they are selling radio commercial airtime, they must not have been able to monetize it. <- LOL Last edited by D Ghost; 02-23-2012 at 05:38 PM..

02-23-2012, 05:17 PM	#159
D Ghost null Industry Role: Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 9,820	Oh yes, why would Clear Channel sell radio advertisements to advertisers? When clearly they should be trying to advertise different affiliate programs and products to make sales for themselves. Because obviously, if they are selling radio commercial airtime, they must not have been able to monetize it. <- LOL

02-23-2012, 05:33 PM	#164
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02-23-2012, 10:09 PM	#181
anexsia Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 5,735	So besides sending traffic to a tube or tgp to get trades going, what are some things you would buy traffic for? Do affiliates purchase high-quality traffic to send directly to paysites or landing pages? I know some of the traffic has to convert because I sell my mobile to Juicy Ads and it's not because it won't convert, it's just because I don't know what I should be doing with it. So if I'm doing that I know there's plenty of others in the same boat selling traffic that converts. Last edited by anexsia; 02-23-2012 at 10:12 PM..

02-24-2012, 02:05 PM	#187
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02-24-2012, 02:40 PM	#190
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02-24-2012, 05:10 PM	#195
Choker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Orlando Posts: 9,024	Not attempting to sound like a big shot, but I invented these terms for my system many years ago. Other brokers copied my shit, down to small details like the term I invented CPPC which stands for cost per productive click. I pulled that term out of my ass. It's real simple. A country is either premium or non-premium. Premium meaning countries with credit cards mostly western europe us,ca,au etc I have several different levels of quality and price them accordingly, I have PQ LQ MQ HQ GQ (golden Quality). Unlike other brokers I adjust my prices in real time according to their quality. hq_non-premium is a surfer from a third world country that clicks a lot. lq_non-premium would be a third world surfer that doesnt click a lot on sites he is sent to. It would make even less sense to name countires hi and low quality then what am I gonna name the others? poor premium, low premium etc? LOL Because someone does their naming different does not make them right or wrong nor does it make me right or wrong. My buyers prefer the way I have it set up, theres always going to be someone who is confused, but guess what? these descriptions are clickable text links that opens a small window that explains what it is. __________________ ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466 Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/ Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers. http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

02-24-2012, 08:04 PM	#199
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