Putin Arrested!?!?

[HomerSimpson]

[Adraco]

Putin was not arrested, the video is fake but very, very well done. Read on more credible news sites and you'll see that it was uncovered as a fake many hours ago. It's still unclear who produced it and even more so released it. It is probably a part of the upcoming presidential election campaign coming up in Russia where Putin will run again.

[Phoenix]

this is probably something else..i doubt very much that he was arrested

[Failed]

You can't arrest the guy who controls everything, can you?

[Klen]

Looks like that is actually hodorovski with putin head instead his head.

[Sid70]

Made me click.

[Operator]

Putin is a self hating jew.

[V_RocKs]

Ain't this the same guy that road around on a horse shirtless to show everyone he kicked ass? What a fucking moron.

[Jacob[Soft]]

it is deleted, fake shit

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Failed

You can't arrest the guy who controls everything, can you?

Not exactly. He is the one under control as well. If he lose the power, he will lose it all - his money and possible even his life. The Abramovich and FSB guys have a lot of discrediting evidence on him. No one want him here, but everyone knows he will be a president.

[MrDeiz]

Originally Posted by cyberxxx

the abramovich and fsb guys have a lot of discrediting evidence on him.

можно ссылки?

[just a punk]

Russia and Putin in pictures:

[Mr. Garibaldi]

Originally Posted by cyberxxx

"Putin voters are like homos, seems like there are a lot of them, but none among my firends"

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

ADG

[livexxx]

Menya Ispravit Rastrel

[RedGlamourStudio]

more anti-Putin pix from Russia

[just a punk]

At least we are living in totalitarian Russia, but not in some other democratic country like the USA, so we can say everything what we think about the government and not be afraid to be tased/gas spayed by police. There are some benefits of living in non-democratic county

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by cyberxxx

At least we are living in totalitarian Russia, but not in some other democratic country like the USA, so we can say everything what we think about the government and not be afraid to be tased/gas spayed by police. There are some benefits of living in non-democratic county

There are political protests every day in the US that never result in any police activity, since they happen peacefully, according to local regulations, and don't deny other people the ability to move around, or enjoy public lands.

After Putin wins again in 3 months, he will be in power until 2016, and beyond. I have a feeling that your joke may turn somewhat sour in a couple of years....


Good luck though.




.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by mrdeiz

мoжнo ссылки?

Нy если бы ссылки нa твердые дoкaзaтельствa вoт тaк прoстo вaлялись в интернете, тo oн дaвнo бы сидел в "Чернoм Дельфине". Зaтo кoсвенных дoкaзaтельств зaвaлись.

1) Вo-первых, есть пoкaзaния Литвиненкo. Вo-втoрых, все пoмнят тy сaмyю истoрию с "неyдaчными yчениями ФСБ", кoгдa oбычные рaбoтники милиции сaми тoгo не ведaя, предoтврaтили реaльный взрыв дoмa. Личнo я пoмню кaк тa истoрия oсвещaлaсь пo ТВ, и кaк oнa редaктирoвaлaсь в течение сyтoк.

2) Есть книгa Скyрaтoвa "Вaриaнт Дрaкoнa" есть тaкoй интересный мoмент:

Не исключaется, чтo кoмпрoметирyющие Скyрaтoвa видеoзaписи мoгyт быть реaлизoвaны через СМИ. Кстaти, гoстем в квaртире нa Пoлянке был не тoлькo Скyрaтoв. Кaк yтверждaют инфoрмирoвaнные истoчники, тaм oтметился в свoе время и нынешний директoр ФСБ Пyтин.

Сaм пo себе oн врoде бы ничегo не знaчит, нo пoсле известных oбвинений Литвиненкo и, мягкo гoвoря, неaдеквaтнoгo эпизoдa с мaльчикoм, все этo нaвoдит нa некoтoрые мысли.

3) Нy и пo экoнoмическим делaм. Пoгyгли "УД 144128".

Кaк минимyм, есть oснoвaния предпoлaгaть, чтo хoтя бы пo oднoмy (a oднoгo действительнo бyдет "выше крыши") из вышеприведенных пyнктoв y_кoгo_нaдo реaльный кoмпрoмaт все же имеется.

[Mike Honcho]

[sambucas]

Sorry, it's in Russian guys couldn't resist. My English ends when I see such stupidity.

Originally Posted by cyberxxx

Нy если бы ссылки нa твердые дoкaзaтельствa вoт тaк прoстo вaлялись в интернете, тo oн дaвнo бы сидел в "Чернoм Дельфине". Зaтo кoсвенных дoкaзaтельств зaвaлись.

1) Вo-первых, есть пoкaзaния Литвиненкo. Вo-втoрых, все пoмнят тy сaмyю истoрию с "неyдaчными yчениями ФСБ", кoгдa oбычные рaбoтники милиции сaми тoгo не ведaя, предoтврaтили реaльный взрыв дoмa. Личнo я пoмню кaк тa истoрия oсвещaлaсь пo ТВ, и кaк oнa редaктирoвaлaсь в течение сyтoк.

2) Есть книгa Скyрaтoвa "Вaриaнт Дрaкoнa" есть тaкoй интересный мoмент:

Сaм пo себе oн врoде бы ничегo не знaчит, нo пoсле известных oбвинений Литвиненкo и, мягкo гoвoря, неaдеквaтнoгo эпизoдa с мaльчикoм, все этo нaвoдит нa некoтoрые мысли.

3) Нy и пo экoнoмическим делaм. Пoгyгли "УД 144128".

Кaк минимyм, есть oснoвaния предпoлaгaть, чтo хoтя бы пo oднoмy (a oднoгo действительнo бyдет "выше крыши") из вышеприведенных пyнктoв y_кoгo_нaдo реaльный кoмпрoмaт все же имеется.

Блеа, короче вот такие как ты по косвенным доказательствам и выходят на митинги за чужие интересы. Только ваши косвенные доказательства (коллажики из ЖЖ и вот такие видео из ЮТ) на проверку оказываются хуйнёй на постном масле. Докажите мне что Путин реально ворует и я пойду сам против него голосовать а пока это всё пиздешь. А еще людей которые за Путина, которых в сотни раз больше кстати, считаете идиотами небось.

Я вообще в ахуе с того что в рунете стало считаться нормальным напиздеть на Путина а на вопрос о ссылках или доказательствах а) выкладывать фотографии с митингов или газетные утки б) утверждать, что если бы были дозательства то он уже давно сидел бы. Это такое доказательство что ли? Давай короче так, если ты мужчина и за базар отвечаешь то давай доказательства или иди с этой хуйней в ЖЖ.

[Lykos]

Looks like they love Putin lol

[sambucas]

There are much much more people who support Putin on this election and he will be a president again.



This one reads: Our family is 67% for Putin



Here is the aVVtoparty - a pro Putin rally in Moscow:

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by sambucas

Докажите мне что Путин реально ворует и я пойду сам против него голосовать а пока это всё пиздешь.

I don't have to prove anything. If you believe Putin is a good guy - go vote for him. Don't ask anybody (me ore anyone else) do think instead of you.

P.S. Мне понравилось выражение Пупкина с мастера о том, что все, кто хочет твердой мужской руки являются латентными пидарасами. Не принимай этот комментарий на свой счет. Просто задумайся над тем, что тебе самому надо и поступай так, как знаешь.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by sambucas

There are much much more people who support Putin

Oh yeah Like these kids (its cool to get some beer for a participation):



or these cheap illegal migrant workers who will do anything for 500 rubles.



or those state employees under a real risk to lose their jobs (I wonder how much money was spent to bring people in all those buses):





I personally know a guy who's mom (she's a teacher) was threatened to get fired if she won't come to "support Putin". Course she came.

What a contrast to all this people who came by themselves to say: "12 years were enough!"

[sambucas]

Originally Posted by cyberxxx

I don't have to prove anything. If you believe Putin is a good guy - go vote for him. Don't ask anybody (me ore anyone else) do think instead of you.

OK so what you are saying is that it's OK to accuse Putin of anything you want (stealing money, eating small babies and murdering pensioners or whatever you guys often accuse him of) but when asked for proof you can just say: 'well if i had any he would be in jail', is that right? Sorry that just makes me support him more.


Where the hell am I asking you to think for me? I'm asking you to proof what you are saying. In fact thinking for my self is precisely what I do, you see I don't live in Russia (however I'm a citizen of RF) and I have free access to English language media who are no friends of Putin to say the least and I analyze all information both in favor of and against Putin and based on my own research that I do for 3 years now I can honestly say that I found only baseless allegations and videos like above that say that he is corrupt and steals money from russian people. In fact I encourage you to think for your self. But it seems to me that you are simply fallen for the comfortable lies that Putin is the source of all problems in Russia which has spread pretty well in livejournal because you are repeating exactly what is being said there, only half truths and suggestive information.

One very important thing that you need to realize: it seems to me that you live in the bounds set by Hollywood movies. I assume that because you used frase 'good guy'. Well there are no good or bad guys, it's strictly Hollywood thinking. There is only right and wrong, progress and regress. So you completley fail to show how Putin is wrong trying to show that he is simply a 'bad guy' instead and it is undebatable that during his rule Russia had tremendous progress while most of other nations economies (including nations who sell oil) went down the drains and trippled and quadrupled their national debt. I'm sorry but I'm not falling for all these fake videos and funny pictures about Putin, my vote goest to him untill I see real evidence or at least a solid scheme like Luzhkov + Inteko, Bush + Northrop Grumman or Sarkozy + Carlyle Group.

Russia's problems = (Russian vast teritorry * Russian mentality);

Think critically!

[sambucas]

Originally Posted by cyberxxx

Oh yeah Like these kids (its cool to get some beer for a participation):

Let me guess, you don't have any proof that they got it for participation, you just know, right?

Originally Posted by cyberxxx

or these cheap illegal migrant workers who will do anything for 500 rubles.

Nice racist comment, well done! You must be the first human on earth to tell illegal migrant by a picture!

Originally Posted by cyberxxx

or those state employees under a real risk to lose their jobs (I wonder how much money was spent to bring people in all those buses):

I personally know a guy who's mom (she's a teacher) was threatened to get fired if she won't come to "support Putin". Course she came.

What a contrast to all this people who came by themselves to say: "12 years were enough!"

Again, no proof right? Look when will you understand that showing picture and writing your interpretation of it or your opinion doesn't make it a proof.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by sambucas

In fact thinking for my self is precisely what I do, you see I don't live in Russia (however I'm a citizen of RF)

This explains everything.

Originally Posted by sambucas

I have free access to English language media who are no friends of Putin to say the least and I analyze all information both

But you think I don't, right?

Originally Posted by sambucas

it seems to me that you live in the bounds set by Hollywood movies. I assume that because you used frase 'good guy'. Well there are no good or bad guys, it's strictly Hollywood thinking.

Are you serious? LOL

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by sambucas

Nice racist comment, well done! You must be the first human on earth to tell illegal migrant by a picture!

What exactly racist is in my comment about cheap illegal migrant workers? Please explain.

About illegal migrant workers:



About money:





Yeah I know it all was filmed in Hollywood

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by sambucas

Let me guess, you don't have any proof that they got it for participation, you just know, right?

Excuse me, a picture of kids with beer does not prove my words? Are you blind?

Originally Posted by sambucas

Again, no proof right?

Watch video above. People openly say they were paid. What exactly kind of other proof you need? Give me a few examples of something you personally consider as a proof.

Didn't you see this video? Ask any psychologist what does it mean. Would you allow some unknown (end even known) man to kiss your little son into a belly? BTW, you said you know everything about live here. Where's the Рutin's wife? Any guesses?

[sambucas]

Originally Posted by cyberxxx

What exactly racist is in my comment about cheap illegal migrant workers? Please explain.

You see people who don't look white and call them 'cheap illegal immigrants' would you call black people in US 'cheap illegal immigrants' because they are not white?

Originally Posted by cyberxxx

Yeah I know it all was filmed in Hollywood

1. What exactly do you see on in these videos? And on which second.
2. How does that proof that people got payed for participating in meetings.
3. There were more then 100 000 people on those meetings where they all payed?
4. Where do you see Putin in these videos?

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by sambucas

You see people who don't look white and call them 'cheap illegal immigrants' would you call black people in US 'cheap illegal immigrants' because they are not white?

Do you want to say they are belong to a black race? Man, they are WHITE. So all the racism is in your head. As about who they are. They explain it on video which I also posted here. Watch it.

Originally Posted by sambucas

1. What exactly do you see on in these videos? And on which second.

The same as you - just a black screen w/o sound.

Originally Posted by sambucas

2. How does that proof that people got payed for participating in meetings.

You mean the black screen?

Originally Posted by sambucas

There were more then 100 000 people on those meetings where they all payed?

Who told you that bullshit? I live in Moscow and I know it better. About 20 thousand is not 100 000. Don't believe to the "official statistic", believe to your eyes only (there is physically no place at Poklonnaya to fit 100 000). This is how they "count":

Originally Posted by sambucas

Where do you see Putin in these videos?

No I didn't see him. I see there a lonely little boy and and an invisible man who lifts up boy's t-shirt and doing something to his belly (perhaps just watching or breathing on it) - I'm not sure...

BTW, here is another video of government supporters. They really look very motivated, isn't it?



They look so happy and sincere there. I can' even imagine that they were paid for that action.

[just a punk]

For those who can't read in Russian. There are two pictures of the SAME street. The first one shows pro-Рutin march (officially there are 50 thousands). The second picture show the anti-Рutin march (officially there are only 29 thousands). Here is how Рutin's math actually works.



Optical illusion, or just lies? You decide.

[sambucas]

Originally Posted by cyberxxx

The same as you - just a black screen w/o sound.

Nice!

[sambucas]

Originally Posted by cyberxxx

For those who can't read in Russian. There are two pictures of the SAME street. The first one shows pro-Рutin march (officially there are 50 thousands). The second picture show the anti-Рutin march (officially there are only 29 thousands). Here is how Рutin's math actually works.



Optical illusion, or just lies? You decide.

For those who don't understand Russian: the first picture was taken an hour before the pro-Putin march actually started, and the second one was taken at the peak of the anti-Putin march. This is how the lies work.

[rogueteens]

Originally Posted by sambucas

You see people who don't look white and call them 'cheap illegal immigrants' would you call black people in US 'cheap illegal immigrants' because they are not white?

You cannot compare America with the old world. America had multiculturalism from the beginning, the old world have only experienced it in full force in the last 20/30 years.

[sambucas]

This is how the meeting that I was referring to actually looked:
But cyberxxx just knows that all these people were payed, he has a video on youtube to support that. Nice

[sambucas]

Originally Posted by rogueteens

You cannot compare America with the old world. America had multiculturalism from the beginning, the old world have only experienced it in full force in the last 20/30 years.

I appreciate the point but we are talking about Russia here, the Caucasus has been a part of Russia for hundreds of years.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by sambucas

For those who don't understand Russian: the first picture was taken an hour before the pro-Putin march actually started

That's a lie again. Show me ANY OTHER picture of 16/04/2011 from the same street where I can see more people. You can't? No proof again? It was very predictable - believe me

[sambucas]

I wonder how much money it would take to pay all these people:

[sambucas]

Originally Posted by cyberxxx

That's a lie again. Show me ANY OTHER picture of 16/04/2011 from the same street where I can see more people. You can't? No proof again? It was very predictable - believe me

You were the one who claims that 'Putin lies' so you need to proof.

Originally Posted by cyberxxx

No proof again?

When have I failed to proof anything?

Besides I wan't talking about 16/04/2011 I was talking about Feb-04-2012. You just chose to put that meeting into debate.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by rogueteens

You cannot compare America with the old world. America had multiculturalism from the beginning, the old world have only experienced it in full force in the last 20/30 years.

Ah those old good multicultural days from Indian genocide, black slavery and KKK till segregation of 60's, Mexican border jumpers, racial ghetto's etc. You must be kidding, right?

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by sambucas

I wonder how much money it would take to pay all these people:

A LOT OF. For sure.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by sambucas

I appreciate the point but we are talking about Russia here, the Caucasus has been a part of Russia for hundreds of years.

Where have you seen at least ONE Caucasian face on the pics of illegal immigrants? Man you are really blind. How many years passed since you you ran from Russia? Just wonder...

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by sambucas

Besides I wan't talking about 16/04/2011 I was talking about Feb-04-2012. You just chose to put that meeting into debate.

I just decided to put two pictures of the same street. One pro-, another anti-. Nothing more and nothing less.

[barcodes]

[just a punk]

sambucas, there will be always a big difference between pure patriots like you that ran from their Motherland for a "better life" and the ungrateful guys like me, who DO NOT plan to leave Russia and thus want to make it a better country - if not for our generation, then maybe for our children.

Dude we will never understand each other, so I consider to stop this pointless discussion. The pics and videos were posted.

Have a nice day!

[sambucas]

Originally Posted by cyberxxx

Excuse me, a picture of kids with beer does not prove my words? Are you blind?

Well this is getting ridiculous, how did you survive till today with this level of stupidity? You were saying that these kids got the case of beer as a pay for them participating in the pro-Putin meeting right? Well this picture just shows kids with the case of beer. That's it! To put it simple if you see a guy driving a car do you immediately assume that he stole it?

Look, I actually know a thing or two about juridical system, these videos and funky pictures are nothing more then suggestive material, it's not evidence it can be interpreted ether way. Let me show you what is a video evidence here at 1:39 you can see money exchange hands:



all of the videos that you have provided show people standing in lines, exchanging tickets, writing on piece of paper their names, now I understand that this MIGHT BE exactly what you are saying but might be not as well, so this is not proof.

[sambucas]

Originally Posted by cyberxxx

sambucas, there will be always a big difference between pure patriots like you that ran from their Motherland for a "better life" and the ungrateful guys like me, who DO NOT plan to leave Russia and thus want to make it a better country if not for our generation, then maybe for our children.

NO! There will always be people like me who found themselves in another country once their country collapsed, and pseudo patriots who assume too much and think that other people 'ran from their Motherland' without even bothering to understand what happen to them.

Knowing that such an idiot like you won't understand what I wrote let me explain it to you: I live in Estonia mate, it was a part USSR when I was born here so I didn't 'ran away' I literately woke up and found my self in another country.

[rogueteens]

Originally Posted by cyberxxx

Ah those old good multicultural days from Indian genocide, black slavery and KKK till segregation of 60's, Mexican border jumpers, racial ghetto's etc. You must be kidding, right?

So it didn't work then? It's not working here either.