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jack-exploitedbabysitters · 03-05-2012, 04:39 AM

who produces this type of content and any idea what are the costs?

DamianJ · 03-05-2012, 05:13 AM

Loki that posts here does 3D stuff.

JOKER · 03-05-2012, 05:45 AM

LokiPorn

Eldon Hoke · 03-05-2012, 06:05 AM

Don't expect this type of content to be cheap if you want exclusive stuff. Takes a long time to render 3D imagery.

Fletch XXX · 03-05-2012, 06:08 AM

was talking to loki about 3d content couple days ago, video takes 33 hours per 1 min to render hehehe

yeah it aint cheap.

bronco67 · 03-05-2012, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

was talking to loki about 3d content couple days ago, video takes 33 hours per 1 min to render hehehe

yeah it aint cheap.

It takes that long if you don't have a render farm. You can't charge people more money because your hardware isn't up to speed.

I think his price comes from the craftsmanship and artistry that goes into the final result.

Fletch XXX · 03-05-2012, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

It does if you have one slow computer.

just going on what Loki said, I have zero knowledge of 3d production other than what I talk with among my peers.

Eldon Hoke · 03-05-2012, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

It does if you have one slow computer.

Yes, obviously it depends on the rig and the amount of cores etc.

To get faster renders you would be looking at a rig worth about $30k.

Also depends on how it is rendered. If you want high quality renders then using Global Illumination and/or VRAY is the way to go. But obviously time is the biggest price here. There are a 100 different factors that can influence render times. Never base it on a set time.

bronco67 · 03-05-2012, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Eldon Hoke

Yes, obviously it depends on the rig and the amount of cores etc.

To get faster renders you would be looking at a rig worth about $30k.

Also depends on how it is rendered. If you want high quality renders then using Global Illumination and/or VRAY is the way to go. But obviously time is the biggest price here. There are a 100 different factors that can influence render times. Never base it on a set time.

I run a high end medical animation business. I have 10 render machines on my farm for Softimage Mental Ray and Modo. It definitely didn't cost anywhere near 30k.

It's unfair to clients and yourself to base price on "how many hours" everything takes. You're right, there's lots of variables and no two hours have the same value in 3d industry. It's more fair to both parties to have a flat price. That way, you're not charging more if it takes more time, and it gives you incentive to get the job done quicker to clear up the schedule for more work.

One thing I've found is it's better to give a client value and keep them coming back, than it is to rape them for a quick buck.

The Heron · 03-05-2012, 07:59 AM

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dj1 · 03-05-2012, 09:32 AM

I do...shoot me an email at [email protected]

Hentaikid · 03-05-2012, 10:12 AM

John Lassiter from Pixar tells the story that 20 years ago, all their rendering farm equipment took 30 minutes to spit out a frame of film ready animation.

Nowadays, he said with a smile, we have orders of magnitude more equipment and faster computers, and it takes... 30 minutes to render a frame of animation.

If you look at the difference between toy story 1 and what they're doing today, you can see where the extra time goes.

Rendering is irrelevant. xbox and ps3 games render their cutscenes and gameplay on the fly, and it looks great, doesn't have anything to do with final quality or the work it took to make.

The question is probably "what budget do you have", which is the difference between a slideshow and a pixar movie.

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Hentaikid Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,249	John Lassiter from Pixar tells the story that 20 years ago, all their rendering farm equipment took 30 minutes to spit out a frame of film ready animation. Nowadays, he said with a smile, we have orders of magnitude more equipment and faster computers, and it takes... 30 minutes to render a frame of animation. If you look at the difference between toy story 1 and what they're doing today, you can see where the extra time goes. Rendering is irrelevant. xbox and ps3 games render their cutscenes and gameplay on the fly, and it looks great, doesn't have anything to do with final quality or the work it took to make. The question is probably "what budget do you have", which is the difference between a slideshow and a pixar movie.