Being a good businessman

[Paul Markham]

Needs an array of skills, few good businessmen make it stuck on one thing. They grow, diversify, adapt and look beyond a formula. Building Windows didn't make Bill Gates a billionaire, he looked beyond the program to the marketing. And their are many other examples of success doing the same thing.

Animals that can't adapt in a changing world, go extinct. The same applies to businessmen who don't adapt and by this I don't mean moving from sending traffic by TGPs to sending it by Tubes. That's just using the latest tool for your job, a photographer doesn't adapt by switching from film, to video, to digital. He adapts by selling direct, by selling to different markets, to using his money to fund projects outside the business of photography if he can afford it.

He doesn't point at another sector and say anything that amounts to it, being too hard for him to do. If he needs a designer, he gets one, same goes for programmer, product creator and any other skills he doesn't have. He employs or buys the product from an out sourced supplier.

He also looks at other people in the business and asks himself what are they doing that he's not that might make him more money. It might be what he's doing, but they have a different slant on it, it might be what he does yet they do it better. Then he will strive to do his side of that better if it doesn't harm his core business.

Now before you flame me for my lack of adopting the above. Think of all the changes I made from 1977 to 2012. Yes I'm now retired and our online income is falling. Still I can retire because I didn't just stick to shooting magazine, not that this was where I started, didn't move to online when it was too late. Did open a site, did drive traffic. Saw that neither of them were a big earner for us and just a nice healthy slice on top of the other big earners.

If the WC won't adapt out of his box, he can't accuse me of adapting out of mine and not doing it to the level of others. He should look at our core businesses and see if his come anywhere near it.

A soccer player doesn't challenge a tennis player to soccer to prove how good he is in his game.

[WarChild]

Paul you don't get it now and you never will. That's probably why you ended up "retired" with next to nothing.

[xholly]

Tell me all about it Paul

[xholly]

you shot for magazines? I didn't realize, what was that like, how much you get paid?

[epitome]

[theking]

You poor...pathetic babbling fool.

[anexsia]

Well, I at least agree with the adapting part. I'm curious to see what the next big thing in adult will be.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by xholly

you shot for magazines? I didn't realize, what was that like, how much you get paid?

Yes we were probably one of the top producers or teen magazine set producers in the 2000s.

The hardest part for us was finding the cute girls, fortunately in Czech we had a good supply of them. I had learned my trade of shooting in the UK and hit the ground running here. Eventually building a team of 4 shooters. Eva, Katka, Jana and me.

The key was to supply an editor with a set of 120 to 200 stills from which he could pull 10to 30 shots out of all different, different from other sets in the magazine and all hitting the nail. Sometime a shot would turn out right and sometime not right, he would look at 3-4 frames on a sheet of slides, going to 2-3 sheets and make a decision to keep or reject the set.

Then it went into his in box and later when he was compiling the magazine he wold look at the sets in his in box again to select the shots for printing. If it passed you were paid on publication, if it failed you got the set back.

Sales were of the same set to license magazine publication in different countries for the First Rights, so the shooter earned multiple time off the same set. The areas of licensing were wide. US, UK, EU, Holland, AU, Japan, second rights which means a year after publication of First rights it could be licensed again to magazines, Phone lines, Calendar, Internet sites, etc. Making $3,000 off a decent set wasn't hard. Even making $400 off shots on a casting wasn't hard. Better than any EXgf site will pay.

If you shoot a video with the set, there the possibility of more sales. Never got into shooting a single custom solo girl scene at $500 for someone else to own. For obvious reasons.

I still kept diversifying and adapting, it was part of the business training I have received through my years working.

The problem with so many in online porn is they can't adapt. Now with this market in decline they're left to adapt in rough times with a failing income supporting them. But seem to point out how I got it so wrong.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by anexsia

Well, I at least agree with the adapting part. I'm curious to see what the next big thing in adult will be.

Ever thought it might not be for you?

The next big thing won't be cheap and easy. Those days are long gone. It will be doing something 10,000 others can't do. Expect Manwin will come up with it with their funding of a 9 figure backing from WS.

People in the past had the opportunity to adapt in online porn and at the right time. Move into selling to offline porn, into a level of porn few others could shoot, creating something that had more appeal to the surfer. They chose to make being an affiliate easier, to get more traffic. And did something every other company could copy and just made everyone need more traffic or spend more on traffic to stand still.

[jimmycooper]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Yes we were probably one of the top producers or teen magazine set producers in the 2000s.

The hardest part for us was finding the cute girls, fortunately in Czech we had a good supply of them. I had learned my trade of shooting in the UK and hit the ground running here. Eventually building a team of 4 shooters. Eva, Katka, Jana and me.

The key was to supply an editor with a set of 120 to 200 stills from which he could pull 10to 30 shots out of all different, different from other sets in the magazine and all hitting the nail. Sometime a shot would turn out right and sometime not right, he would look at 3-4 frames on a sheet of slides, going to 2-3 sheets and make a decision to keep or reject the set.

Then it went into his in box and later when he was compiling the magazine he wold look at the sets in his in box again to select the shots for printing. If it passed you were paid on publication, if it failed you got the set back.

Sales were of the same set to license magazine publication in different countries for the First Rights, so the shooter earned multiple time off the same set. The areas of licensing were wide. US, UK, EU, Holland, AU, Japan, second rights which means a year after publication of First rights it could be licensed again to magazines, Phone lines, Calendar, Internet sites, etc. Making $3,000 off a decent set wasn't hard. Even making $400 off shots on a casting wasn't hard. Better than any EXgf site will pay.

If you shoot a video with the set, there the possibility of more sales. Never got into shooting a single custom solo girl scene at $500 for someone else to own. For obvious reasons.

I still kept diversifying and adapting, it was part of the business training I have received through my years working.

The problem with so many in online porn is they can't adapt. Now with this market in decline they're left to adapt in rough times with a failing income supporting them. But seem to point out how I got it so wrong.

Why are you so fucked up?

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Building Windows didn't make Bill Gates a billionaire, he looked beyond the program to the marketing.

Actually it was licensing. But carry on.

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by xholly

you shot for magazines? I didn't realize, what was that like, how much you get paid?

fucking loooooool

[papill0n]

it is seriously like the twilight zone with this guy

[papill0n]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

fucking loooooool

have you ever met anyone more clueless than paul ?

he doesnt even contemplate that he is being trolled he just looks for the only post that isnt insulting him and blasts out 400 words, inevitably about how bright he is

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by jimmycooper

Why are you so fucked up?

Can you explain then what we did wrong. Please


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Keep bumping little guys. If one of the dwarfs post something worth reading, please will someone not on my ignore list quote it.

[papill0n]

a pathetic individual who had moderate success and despite telling everyone how fantastic he was for years is now reduced to posting fairytales about his past life on a board full of people who think he is a complete wanker and who he claims to have on ignore

yeah fuck me paul you really have it going on brother

[DamianJ]

woop, I've made it onto Paul's totally made up ignore list again.

:D

How long this time before he responds? 12 hours I reckon.

Bless.

[jimmycooper]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Can you explain then what we did wrong. Please


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Keep bumping little guys. If one of the dwarfs post something worth reading, please will someone not on my ignore list quote it.

I didn't say that you did anything wrong. Maybe you did or maybe you didn't. I could care less. What's important is that you are happy with the outcome of your efforts. Seeing as you appear to be quite pleased with yourself, more power to you.
What I was asking was why are you so fucked up in the head? Why do you continually obsess about the life decisions made by others?

[epitome]

LOL you call him out on numerous lies and he puts you on ignore so he can avoid answering and say its because you are on ignore. Ironically, he still sometimes responds to those he says he has on ignore. Another lie?

[Socks]

Paul, I'm going to give you a tip.

Wouldn't you make more money and make better use of your time writing this shit on say, a blog? Maybe some kind of consultant that helps retired people make a new living online? Lots of people do that, and make good money at it.

Instead you post here to a bunch of people younger than you, many better off than you, who don't need or value just about anything you have to say.

If you posted these things to a different crowd, they might appreciate what you have to say, and praise you instead of poke fun at you. Hell, you might even get paid.

You just keep doing this same thing over and over again, trying to prove to us how not-so-totally-100%-wrong you are..

It's hard to watch.

You could do the *same* thing, in a *different place* and *do better* with it. Since you love giving out so much advice, use it to your advantage. And realize that advice is best used when given, so take this advice, and do something with it.

[Paul Markham]

There are two threads today that show the thinking of online porn.

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1060400

One shows that there are a some sites that rise way above the rest of the pack., Met-art, FTV, Perfect Gonzo did, and more. What separated them to a level few others could get to was the shooters.

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1060265

Pornstar sites. If a girl is really that good, then go and get her.

Both display the lack of business acumen or money that some have. Because the one thing that separates them both is an "employee". If you want a Met Art level site, in what ever niche or style you choose, employ the shooter who can get you there. Don't go out offering anyone who needs the work $500 a solo scene exclusive or a "rev share deal". Go find the shooter, offer him what he can earn elsewhere and get him exclusive. Then figure out how to make it pay. Because if you can't sell his work to pay him enough, you're left competing with all the other sites in the same low level.

Obviously the same goes for pornstars.

When I've been approached by people offering me a deal the thought I would snap at. I always countered their offer with the option of them buying it in for a lot less than they were suggesting we would make. They always turned it down. so I stayed shooting for the areas that paid me best.

"A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush." Accept these guys were suggesting I would end up with the two birds and bush. But they wanted it all on a promise.

This industry sub contracts as much as possible. Because that can't afford to pay out for in house or the guy they are making the offer to, is earning more free lance. Same reasons really.

And in business that's what's king. Making money.

[jimmycooper]

I know that I'm really looking forward to the autobiography.

Perfection: How A Poor Young Lad From Staines Became Big Money In Brno

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by Socks

Paul, I'm going to give you a tip.

Wouldn't you make more money and make better use of your time writing this shit on say, a blog? Maybe some kind of consultant that helps retired people make a new living online? Lots of people do that, and make good money at it.

Instead you post here to a bunch of people younger than you, many better off than you, who don't need or value just about anything you have to say.

If you posted these things to a different crowd, they might appreciate what you have to say, and praise you instead of poke fun at you. Hell, you might even get paid.

You just keep doing this same thing over and over again, trying to prove to us how not-so-totally-100%-wrong you are..

It's hard to watch.

You could do the *same* thing, in a *different place* and *do better* with it. Since you love giving out so much advice, use it to your advantage. And realize that advice is best used when given, so take this advice, and do something with it.

He tried blogging but got no traffic so lost interest.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by jimmycooper

I know that I'm really looking forward to the autobiography.

Perfection: How A Poor Young Lad From Staines Became Big Money In Brno

I'm writing it at the moment. Done the part of touring Europe during the late 60s, skipped the early 70s when I was out of porn and just went straight to the part where we were nearly bankrupt and I started back in porn.

In the first couple of weeks we were earning above the average weekly wage from our porn sales. On top of my other work. Slow start. Sort of mole hill to a big hill type of story. Never became a mountain. But never claimed to be.

I wasn't in Staines.

Still waiting for an intelligent reply from someone.

[asdasd]

[DamianJ]

[Eldon Hoke]

[asdasd]

[Socks]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Still waiting for an intelligent reply from someone.

If you find that you consistently can't find what you're looking for here, why do you keep looking, expecting different results?

[Paul Markham]

DamianJ
This message is hidden because DamianJ is on your ignore list.

Which is a pity because he might have the answer to why sponsors go into these sharing deals with pornstars, rather than straight out paying them for the work done and getting all the rights.

Recently one of the programs he advises, obviously not on recruiting pornstars to work, had to take down one of their site. Because for what ever reason the girl decided, she wanted it down. It was in the agreement. Of course all the work she's done for other producers and been paid for on the day, remains for all to see.

Bad businessmen or lack of funds?

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

DamianJ
This message is hidden because DamianJ is on your made up and lied about ignore list.

SNIP:obvious trolling

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Socks

If you find that you consistently can't find what you're looking for here, why do you keep looking, expecting different results?

Maybe I'm an optimist thinking someone here would get a clue.

Seriously if you don't know why I like poking fun back at people who's only reply is that I'm a little bit older than them. Then you need to think a bit deeper.

Or tell them the same as you're telling me.

Yes I'm 61. Get over it.

Yes I enjoy pointing out good business practices.

[travs]

I still don't get it why Paul Markham appears to be the guy that's most trolled here in GFY

[Fletch XXX]

think of this Paul, in 1977 did you think I would be here in 2012 making apps with your content?

For that matter, in 1977, I was less than 1 year of age, and had no idea 35 years later id be making apps with your content.

technology rules.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by anexsia

Well, I at least agree with the adapting part. I'm curious to see what the next big thing in adult will be.

all gay with condoms and hazmat suits

[B.Barnato]

loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

[nextri]

Classic Paul Markham thread. Thx for entertaining the board.

[porno jew]

Originally Posted by Socks

Wouldn't you make more money and make better use of your time writing this shit on say, a blog?

he tried. and lit sucked and failed. he is just a narcissistic idiot.

[tonyparra]

Originally Posted by porno jew

he tried. and lit sucked and failed. he is just a narcissistic idiot.

Paul likes to write. I hate writing, he could do my blog post for me. We would make $$

[papill0n]

great thread paul

looks like people really respect your opinion

[jimmycooper]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I'm writing it at the moment. Done the part of touring Europe during the late 60s, skipped the early 70s when I was out of porn and just went straight to the part where we were nearly bankrupt and I started back in porn.

In the first couple of weeks we were earning above the average weekly wage from our porn sales. On top of my other work. Slow start. Sort of mole hill to a big hill type of story. Never became a mountain. But never claimed to be.

I wasn't in Staines.

Still waiting for an intelligent reply from someone.

[TheSquealer]

Those that can, do.

Those that can't, teach.

[Jakez]

Originally Posted by xholly

you shot for magazines? I didn't realize, what was that like, how much you get paid?

He really fell for this one. Love you Paul.

[Roald]

Originally Posted by xholly

you shot for magazines? I didn't realize, what was that like, how much you get paid?

nice

[anexsia]

Originally Posted by bm bradley

all gay with condoms and hazmat suits

how much would you charge to make some gay hazmat content???

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Roald

nice

Yes there were far better payers for content in offline than online porn. The only way to make big money as a shooter in online porn was to put your content onto your own sites. Selling it to sponsors exclusive paid shit money. Unlike traffic they were not willing to pay decent amounts fr content. So few if any were brought over as in-house or content production heads. Online simply couldn't or wouldn't compete on the payment level. Why is the question.

This doesn't apply to just me, it applies to most of the offline shooters of any worth. Even when offline porn was reduced to a side show how many of the offline shooters are coming over to produce a great product? Yes very few.

Yet we all know great content converts. Met Art, FTV, PG, etc. We all know the sites that convert well, retain longer ad get members coming back. And we all now the sites that are just not good enough, converting badly, retaining badly and need more traffic to earn the same. There's another difference, the latter don't need to spend mega bucks promoting themselves, the former did. And became the "bros" of affiliates.

Shap went part of the way to create a good site, he could of gone further and created a great site. Yes he made a good return, he could of made a great return. As a content producer I reviewed his site's content. I found sets that would never get published in a magazine, some by the so called top dog here. simply not enough poses, not the right poses, not the right looks off the model and on some it seemed getting a light in the background to glow was more important than getting the picture of the model right. The shooter makes excuses why he didn't do much magazine work. The truth is obvious to someone who got a lot of magazine work published.

And before the idiots talk about me shooting 80s style or for magazines that are now gone. We shot solo girl sets worth $3,000. Custom paid $500 a set and video. Maybe Twistys paid more, ATK paid less. So did a lot of other sponsors.

The big accusation, until I slam dunked it, was offline porn didn't understand the Internet and come here to make more money. Well it's a two way street. Online porn was simply clueless about offline porn and didn't go there to make more money. The excuses for this failing are usually stupid, couldn't be bothered, didn't have the time, etc. That's not good business practices. You eventually went to get stands at the Venus show. 5-6 years to late, in your defense how many other online porn companies did the same?

The media coverage of the "Bang Bus" in a offline porn show might of paid for the outlay, meeting customers face to face always will. But people have to get out of their little boxes to see what's outside to view the opportunities.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by travs

I still don't get it why Paul Markham appears to be the guy that's most trolled here in GFY

Because I put up threads and posts that the best reply is showing that I'm older than them. Or as they tap on their keyboard from home, trying to pay the rent. Like to imagine I'm as broke as they are. While they play "Big Dog".

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

think of this Paul, in 1977 did you think I would be here in 2012 making apps with your content?

For that matter, in 1977, I was less than 1 year of age, and had no idea 35 years later id be making apps with your content.

technology rules.

No. in the mid 90s I had decided to retire to Thailand. Not for the whores, I just loved the people and country. I had made enough, owned the apartment in London and with my saved money, could of lived comfortably. Flying the occasional girl out to Thailand to shoot on the beaches.

Then Eva walked into my life and I fell head over hills in love, like her, and my life suddenly took a huge detour. Eva had come to me for a casting so she earn enough to go back to Czech, her present boyfriend who she lived with had made her pay for the food, her savings were gone and a few hundred pounds would do the trick. 13+years later I did something in 1997, I was swearing I wouldn't do. Set up a new life in the center of Europe, have a family and a dog and live in a quiet village outside Brno. Instead of on or near a quiet beach in Thailand. Carried on working, started a new business, expanded more in the sector of online porn and grew an entirely new career.

And never regretted a single second of it.

[Roald]

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I agree

[papill0n]

yes paul !