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GFED · 03-13-2012, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Verbal

Have you tried just opening up to him? Let him know where you are coming from as a person? I'm not saying be his friend, but to drop the power struggle one time and have a man-to-man chat with him without judgement or repercussions.

i agree with this

Verbal · 03-13-2012, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

If you've had so many issues and "problems" with your children then I'm going to have to say you failed at being a good parent

Curious how many kids you've raised?

Harmon · 03-13-2012, 01:11 PM

First of all, this cunt bag JohnnyClips and his side kick GFED are trolling all of you. That being said...

With that mindset, you had better not let you kids play sports. Their coach might "discipline" them and tell them, and retell them how to do something the correct way. God fucking forbid, these kids will grow up hating their fucking parents and all of the human race. Penalties in sports? How harsh! Get rid of them immediately!

Forget about anything as benign as ballet, tap, crafting, etc. "They might fall down and go boom boom". Once again, God forbid someone tells them that they are doing it wrong or they get hurt and LEARN from their mistakes, these kids will HATE YOU!

If you coddle this next generation the way some of you fuckwads suggest... the way it is going? They will be the most absurd contribution to the human race thus far. Give me a fucking break.

The fact of the matter is that most kids will act out. When they do? They need to be taught what is right from wrong. If that entails a good harsh speaking to, or a swift boot in the ass, so be it. If I ever had a teenager look at my wife and tell her that he hates the woman that is MY wife whom I love... the same woman that changed his shitty ass diapers, bailed him out of trouble, feeds his unappreciative ass, etc? I would fucking backhand that fucking kid and kick his ass out the door so fast it wouldn't even be funny.

The fact of the matter is that in life, there are consequences. For every action, there is an equally yet sometimes more severe reaction. We deal with these crossroads every single fucking day as adults, and kids need to learn that sooner rather than later before they become adults. I know it, and you better fucking know it. If you don't? I wish you the best. Because you are living in Disney Land.

I do not condone whipping the ever loving fuck out of children what so ever. There are approaches that are more effective than straight out violence. I hate to admit it, but sometimes a kid needs a wack in the ass. My opinion, but fuuuuuuck... how many generations existed before JohnnyClips or GFED came around and this was standard practice? THOSANDS, so far so good.

If you let this generation of spoiled fucks walk all over you, while you sit in the corner and cower out of fear for the way they will ultimately turn out, or the law? Fuck you. Sack the fuck up and show them who runs the mother fucking game. It's not them.

Harmon... out.

WarChild · 03-13-2012, 01:15 PM

Please remember Johnny Clips is functionally retarded. There's no sense trying to teach him anything.

NaughtyVisions · 03-13-2012, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

You don't "discipline" your children anymore than you would "discipline" your wife or some stranger on the street. Quit being a bunch of savage animals insisting upon brutality.

If you understood the definition of "discipline," which has been posted multiples times, you would understand that it has nothing to do with being a savage animal or brutality.

I just don't know what else to say to you. I'm really at a loss in getting this concept through your head.

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Originally Posted by WarChild

Please remember Johnny Clips is functionally retarded. There's no sense trying to teach him anything.

Yeah, I'm getting that. I can't help but keep trying, though. It's like an addiction. I guess this is a result of my parents giving me boundaries when I was a kid. Perhaps if there hadn't been consequences for my actions, I could refrain from wanting to strangle my computer when I read his posts. It's all my parents' fault. Damn their rules and instructions and proper parenting.

Harmon · 03-13-2012, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Shittiest advice I've ever read

Do not hit or discipline your children. If you wouldn't do it to a stranger on the street, please don't do it to your own flesh and blood. If children are raised peacefully and lovingly they are NOT going to "act out". Utterly simple logic.

The science behind spanking, physical and emotional abuse clearly supports this basic understanding.

You fail. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200.

I am just taking a shot in the dark, but I am guessing you were repeatedly raped and beaten as a child. I feel bad for you. GL kid. From what I gather, it will get better. The hemorrhoids will subside. Get some Preparation H.

NaughtyVisions · 03-13-2012, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Then explain discipline because how else would you impose it without threats or punishment?

Rules and consequences. "Consquences" does mean punishment, but neither mean violence or brutality.

Rules and consequences. You know, sort of like the laws that you abide by in your everyday life, and if you break them you get a fine or jail time.

Harmon · 03-13-2012, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyVisions

Rules and consequences. "Consquences" does mean punishment, but neither mean violence or brutality.

Rules and consequences. You know, sort of like the laws that you abide by in your everyday life, and if you break them you get a fine or jail time.

Don't bother, follow my link and he is gone forever. He is trolling.
https://gfy.com/profile.php?do=addlis...gnore&u=127353

GFED · 03-13-2012, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Harmon

Fuck you. Sack the fuck up and show them who runs the mother fucking game. It's not them.

Harmon... out.

You are a fine example of someone that's obviously mentally unstable and has anger issues. You, and your type of people is what creates violent adults. You're arrogant and pompous... an imbecile. You're rude, and it's obvious your parents failed when raising you.

NaughtyVisions · 03-13-2012, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

So you'd use force against your child for not obeying YOUR rule? Umm that's the same thing. And what if your child doesn't agree to his or her punishment?

Stop splitting hairs here

If there's any hair splitting, it's mine from me pulling it out of my head.

First, you need to separate violence/brutatlity/force (in the manner you're using it)/hitting/etc. from discipline. Discipline can be obtained without any of those.

Rules/laws are not only in effect to teach right from wrong, but they also help maintain order. There's a law that says which side of the road you should drive on. If not, everyone would drive every which way and there would be accidents. So laws were put into place to guide people. Break that law (and put people's lives at risk) and there are punishments. This has absolutely nothing to do with being raised peacefully or not. So fuck that argument of yours.

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Me: "Raise your children peacefully and they will BE peaceful. Do NOT hit them, do NOT punish them, do NOT threaten them."

Some people: "OH MY GOD you're fucking stupid!"

"Violence begets violence." I don't disagree with that. But proper discipline is not violent. Also, being raised peacefully doesn't always mean they will turn out peaceful. I don't recall any stories of God beating the shit out of Adam, or Adam beating his kids. By your theory, all of their descendents should have continued the "raise peaceful, they will be peaceful" concept, which would have resulted in one big happy fucking world. That turned out nicely...

Harmon · 03-13-2012, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GFED

You are a fine example of someone that's obviously mentally unstable and has anger issues. You, and your type of people is what creates violent adults. You're arrogant and pompous... an imbecile. You're rude, and it's obvious your parents failed when raising you.

Fucking kid. Someone ban these tools. I would butt fuck your ass until it bled the tears of Jesus. Good luck selling your Warcraft account.

Harmon · 03-13-2012, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Those who resort to name calling and outlandish trolling tactics like this know they have lost the argument and can't do anything about it

Rated "T" for teen.

BlackCrayon · 03-13-2012, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

If you raise your children peacefully, they will turn out peacefully

Again please give me an example of "discipline". If it involves threats, laws, rules, force or violence then it should not be used. Unless of course you want your child to have problems later on down the road

how do you expect them to confirm to a society full of rules and punishments for not following rules? not that i expect a real answer from such a troller..

sperbonzo · 03-13-2012, 02:16 PM

Ok, I almost NEVER put anyone on ignore, but after reading Johnnyclips posts for the last year, and now the ones on this thread, I've realized that there is absolutely nothing that this guy has to say that I need to hear. He's either an utter moron, or an utter troll.

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Harmon · 03-13-2012, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

So raising your kids peacefully is not a good idea? Wow

NaughtyVisions · 03-13-2012, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Ok, I almost NEVER put anyone on ignore, but after reading Johnnyclips posts for the last year, and now the ones on this thread, I've realized that there is absolutely nothing that this guy has to say that I need to hear. He's either an utter moron, or an utter troll.

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I've never put anybody on ignore either. Might be looking at a first here.

I'm heading out the door to take my son to his Tae Kwon Do class. Can't miss it, he has a belt test this weekend. Besides, why would I want him to miss something that teaches him self-control, discipline and respect, among other things?

Please, keep this thread going! I want a good laugh either later tonight or tomorrow morning when I come back to the computer.

LeRoy · 03-13-2012, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

When my kid was about five she back talked to my wife and I rocked her world. I'm a former US Marine; I don't get mad, don't have anger issues, but I can quickly raise my voice to the point where you think I'm going to rip your heart out of your chest. I snatched her by her collar, quickly tossed her up on the hood of the car, and gave her a "dressing down" she hasn't forgotten to this very day. In the event we have any problems now, all I need to do is raise my voice and it sends her running to fix whatever the problem is.

I approve of this method 100%

Growing up I got a smack to the face or a foot up my ass. Either way I got the hint real quick!

BlackCrayon · 03-13-2012, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Why would anyone want to "conform" to anything? The question is dumb and makes no sense. Society is merely a reflection of the family. Raise your children peacefully and society will change so we don't have all these ancient, archaic hierarchies and stupid laws

and i guess it would also make mental illness and other disablities instantly disappear too. go back to your pokemon forum, kid.

bushwacker · 03-13-2012, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

and i guess it would also make mental illness and other disablities instantly disappear too. go back to your pokemon forum, kid.

You are argueing with someone who thinks aliens live in the center of the earth. You might as well be banging your head against the wall.

Phoenix · 03-13-2012, 02:47 PM

how many advice givers here have kids?
we are trying to deal with a 2.5 year old who thinks he is Genghis Khan reborn.

bushwacker · 03-13-2012, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

It's really amazing that in this day and age especially, when one promotes peace and non-violence they get met with all sorts of attacks. Holy shit. Raise your kids peacefully and they will ACT peacefully. It is NOT rocket science

" But but but but"...no, no buts.

shut up dumb dumb.

atom · 03-13-2012, 03:13 PM

being disciplined by the cat after pulling its tail is the best one liner in this thread. I would quote it but since i am not a webmaster I do not know how.

baddog · 03-13-2012, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Wizzo

Discipline doesn't have to involve violence and have 2 great kids that I get along with very well because of it.

Bingo.

NaughtyVisions · 03-13-2012, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by atom

being disciplined by the cat after pulling its tail is the best one liner in this thread. I would quote it but since i am not a webmaster I do not know how.

Thanks!

PiracyPitbull · 03-13-2012, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

This JohnnyClips guy is one of the best trolls I've ever seen.

He does like his trolling

scubadiver626 · 03-13-2012, 07:34 PM

I have a 4 and 5 year old. I'd like to think we've been pretty successful up to this point.

How you deal with conflict will ultimately determine the quality of your relationships.
Communication is the only tool worth using... aside from a well placed hug.

If you even have to raise your voice, step back and think. theres always a better way next time.

Matt 26z · 03-13-2012, 10:22 PM

Try to figure out why he is talking back to you. Humans do not snap at one another for no reason. There is obviously something going on in his life that is causing him to stress out and verbally attack you. Chances are, you'll never find out what it is though.

Instead of asking yourself why he has to hate everything you love, see if you can take an interest in things he loves instead. That may make him feel closer to you and thus less likely to attack you.

You won't get anywhere with discipline.

TrustCash · 03-14-2012, 08:20 AM

If I had a kid and I don't see that happening, I'd put him to military school. I had never gone to military school though.

Shotsie · 03-14-2012, 08:59 AM

NaughtyVisions · 03-14-2012, 09:01 AM

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barcodes · 03-14-2012, 09:17 AM

cthulhu_waves · 03-14-2012, 11:24 AM

All this bickering is giving me a headache.

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Harmon ( ͡ʘ╭͜ʖ╮͡ʘ) Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 20,000	First of all, this cunt bag JohnnyClips and his side kick GFED are trolling all of you. That being said... With that mindset, you had better not let you kids play sports. Their coach might "discipline" them and tell them, and retell them how to do something the correct way. God fucking forbid, these kids will grow up hating their fucking parents and all of the human race. Penalties in sports? How harsh! Get rid of them immediately! Forget about anything as benign as ballet, tap, crafting, etc. "They might fall down and go boom boom". Once again, God forbid someone tells them that they are doing it wrong or they get hurt and LEARN from their mistakes, these kids will HATE YOU! If you coddle this next generation the way some of you fuckwads suggest... the way it is going? They will be the most absurd contribution to the human race thus far. Give me a fucking break. The fact of the matter is that most kids will act out. When they do? They need to be taught what is right from wrong. If that entails a good harsh speaking to, or a swift boot in the ass, so be it. If I ever had a teenager look at my wife and tell her that he hates the woman that is MY wife whom I love... the same woman that changed his shitty ass diapers, bailed him out of trouble, feeds his unappreciative ass, etc? I would fucking backhand that fucking kid and kick his ass out the door so fast it wouldn't even be funny. The fact of the matter is that in life, there are consequences. For every action, there is an equally yet sometimes more severe reaction. We deal with these crossroads every single fucking day as adults, and kids need to learn that sooner rather than later before they become adults. I know it, and you better fucking know it. If you don't? I wish you the best. Because you are living in Disney Land. I do not condone whipping the ever loving fuck out of children what so ever. There are approaches that are more effective than straight out violence. I hate to admit it, but sometimes a kid needs a wack in the ass. My opinion, but fuuuuuuck... how many generations existed before JohnnyClips or GFED came around and this was standard practice? THOSANDS, so far so good. If you let this generation of spoiled fucks walk all over you, while you sit in the corner and cower out of fear for the way they will ultimately turn out, or the law? Fuck you. Sack the fuck up and show them who runs the mother fucking game. It's not them. Harmon... out. __________________ [email protected] Last edited by Harmon; 03-13-2012 at 01:13 PM..

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Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	Try to figure out why he is talking back to you. Humans do not snap at one another for no reason. There is obviously something going on in his life that is causing him to stress out and verbally attack you. Chances are, you'll never find out what it is though. Instead of asking yourself why he has to hate everything you love, see if you can take an interest in things he loves instead. That may make him feel closer to you and thus less likely to attack you. You won't get anywhere with discipline.

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