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Old 03-22-2012, 07:04 PM   #1
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Blogs: sending to fhgs or directly to the paysite

I personally send them to a fhg. This obviously results in way less clicks to the paysite but the surfer who clicks through does so by choice and is more likely to sign up then random people you send there. I never really did a big scale test to see what works best. So i wonder if someone else did and would mind sharing the results.
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Each additional step between the consumer and the objective reduces the total number of people who would potentially convert no matter how motivated they are.

The fewer steps, the better. This is true in everything online.
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Each additional step between the consumer and the objective reduces the total number of people who would potentially convert no matter how motivated they are.

The fewer steps, the better. This is true in everything online.
Thats how I have always thought about it.....
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And by the way, i should point out thats not absolutely true. I mean people will go through a 4 step registration process just as easily as a 3 step registration process, provided they are motivated, they understand why the steps exist, where they are in the process, when it ends etc.

But from blog -> fhg (totally in-congruent to blog look/feel and often poorly done) -> paysite landing page (again, often different from fhg look/feel/language) -> tour page -> join page is adding an unnecessary step with no benefit to the user.
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depends what your goal is. if you want to build traffic with repeat visitors and such direct to a paysite isn't going to cut it.
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Depends on the tour. For sites like Bangbros, RK, I link to the specific scene trailer. There's a enough free porn on most tours and it's easier access to signup once they're there.
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Each additional step between the consumer and the objective reduces the total number of people who would potentially convert no matter how motivated they are.

The fewer steps, the better. This is true in everything online.
I'm aware of this ofcourse. This is a general rule. BUT it doesn't always work that way.
Look at a random tgp for instance. If all the links would go directly to a paysite. People click a link. Get a paysite...quickly close the site because they want to see some content. Try another link...paysite...they simply then move on.
The same surfer when he knows he will get galleries will try maybe 10 galleries and finally visits a gallery he really likes and then by his own choice clicks through to the sponsor. Because he is interested to see what the the site might offer him. He might have closed that same site directly if he was forced to visit it.

Different sites, different situations. That's why i'm asking if someone actually did test this with a lot of sites and a lot of traffic. Specifically with blogs.
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Depends on the tour. For sites like Bangbros, RK, I link to the specific scene trailer. There's a enough free porn on most tours and it's easier access to signup once they're there.
Yeah good point as well.
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mostly direct to paysite.

however good idea would be to mix it all: pic and/or text link to fhg, post with internal wp gallery and text link to paysite, pic directly to paysite, even a random pic with text not linked anywhere.
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do both. link to the content - or host it yourself - and have a call to action at the bottom to the paysite. like this http://www.iseekgirls.com/2012/03/22...-and-cumshots/

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make your blog post the fhg so they dont need to do the extra step
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make your blog post the fhg so they dont need to do the extra step
You mean rip all the pics and thumbs and insert them in your blog? Unless there is software to do that it's way too much work.
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use a gallery plugin for pic gals / blog posts it will help your time on site and bounce rate as well.
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You mean rip all the pics and thumbs and insert them in your blog? Unless there is software to do that it's way too much work.
Yes...I tried this using some of the wordpress gallery plugins and quickly gave up...it was taking way to much time for me to do when I could have been making more blogs. I'm sure some people have it down to a science and can do it quickly but I couldn't tell the difference it made by directly putting them on the site/blog so I went back to linking to FHGs.

Anyways, this is a good thread...was curious about this as well.
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my main point is to make sales, so for me is most important to inject my cookie into surfer, so i am using as short linking as possible, but if someone is making sales from selling traffic, sure is better to have own fhgs on own servers and so ... you know, have luck!
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Yes...I tried this using some of the wordpress gallery plugins and quickly gave up...it was taking way to much time for me to do when I could have been making more blogs. I'm sure some people have it down to a science and can do it quickly but I couldn't tell the difference it made by directly putting them on the site/blog so I went back to linking to FHGs.

Anyways, this is a good thread...was curious about this as well.
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I do both, link the image to the FHG and in the description after writing about the gallery using my targeted keywords, I sometimes add a one liner selling text centered and below the text with something like "For more full length HD 'niche' videos, check out 'Sitename' with an auto link linking to the tour or join page. Even more so when I'm trying to push dollar trials to get PPS on sites that I don't think will rebill or haven't rebilled in the past with text like 'Join SITENAME for just a buck now!'.
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Send them to the tour. Don't add in an extra step, and don't give them free porn.
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I do both, link the image to the FHG and in the description after writing about the gallery using my targeted keywords, I sometimes add a one liner selling text centered and below the text with something like "For more full length HD 'niche' videos, check out 'Sitename' with an auto link linking to the tour or join page. Even more so when I'm trying to push dollar trials to get PPS on sites that I don't think will rebill or haven't rebilled in the past with text like 'Join SITENAME for just a buck now!'.
But you never really tested the difference?

I wonder if anybody did. Maybe i should do it
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Send them to the tour. Don't add in an extra step, and don't give them free porn.
Really? I've never made a sale on a blog that doesn't have FHGs or some sort of larger images..

That's like making a tube w premium upsale and throttling the videos to 1..
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But you never really tested the difference?

I wonder if anybody did. Maybe i should do it
I have and have a bunch that either have one image linking to the FHG, one image linking to to a tour or join page, or FHGs with selling text below the description linking to the join/tour. FHG blogs convert by far the best for me but it also depends on the FHGs that your sponsor provides. Like, does it have a good visible text or image link to the join page or does it explain what they get with a full membership?
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I have and have a bunch that either have one image linking to the FHG, one image linking to to a tour or join page, or FHGs with selling text below the description linking to the join/tour. FHG blogs convert by far the best for me but it also depends on the FHGs that your sponsor provides. Like, does it have a good visible text or image link to the join page or does it explain what they get with a full membership?
Very interesting. And the exact opposite of what many people claim here (without testing it ofcourse).
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Very interesting. And the exact opposite of what many people claim here (without testing it ofcourse).
Everyone might be different, I guess, but every single sale I get on a blog is from an FHG unless it's from a banner ad. I've tried so many direct join or tour blogs and failed, those blogs are just for SEO purposes, now..
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Everyone might be different, I guess, but every single sale I get on a blog is from an FHG unless it's from a banner ad. I've tried so many direct join or tour blogs and failed, those blogs are just for SEO purposes, now..
You have checked what the average ctr was you got from the galleries? In total?
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BTW now i got your attention. Is there a limit when it comes to link exchanges you do per blog? What is your strategy on that?

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Very interesting. And the exact opposite of what many people claim here (without testing it ofcourse).
Because many people here just assume it would work better in theory to take a step out and link right to the tour...but that doesn't necessarily work (not saying it doesn't though!). If I was one of my visitors and all the images linked straight to the tour, I would just search for another site and go there.
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Everyone might be different, I guess, but every single sale I get on a blog is from an FHG unless it's from a banner ad. I've tried so many direct join or tour blogs and failed, those blogs are just for SEO purposes, now..
I have one blog that links directly to the tour because the sponsor has no promo content (even though they said months ago they were working on some!) and it's only made 1 sale.
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Because many people here just assume it would work better in theory to take a step out and link right to the tour...but that doesn't necessarily work (not saying it doesn't though!). If I was one of my visitors and all the images linked straight to the tour, I would just search for another site and go there.
Yup, exactly what i mentioned in one of the first posts.

Then again, i'm a pro, as well all know.
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It's a bitch to change everything at a later point.
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BTW now i got your attention. Is there a limit when it comes to link exchanges you do per blog? What is your strategy on that?

I try to have 10-20 outgoing links to my other related niche blogs at most and maybe 5 of those outgoing links to other people's sites if I get an equal or better trade using linkspun or similar. Also, on my Thumblogger blogs, I put a shared box on most of them and I put links to my blogs that I want indexed faster or just better PR in the shared box to show on them all instantly. This brings those linked sites to a PR2 in a week.
(You can do the same thing with 2-5 backlinks by changing the footer.php in each template used using WP or WPMU..)

With good handwritten blogs that you want to do better, try making a handful of quick blogs with the same niche and just one way link those to your better blogs and link wheel those feeders to themselves and do usual ping and directory submission. (Keeping a list of good high PR adult blog directories that don't need recips is very helpful for these, especially the ones that don't have a submit limit. Hard to find, though)

I also use bulkping.com for backlinks on new blogs to index faster. Since it takes a while and you can only have one instance of it running at a time per browser, I open it in FF, IE and Chrome with 3 different blogs and let it run every night..

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You have checked what the average ctr was you got from the galleries? In total?
Hard to say since I promote so many affiliates. As far as FHG ratios, I'd guess the average is around 1:800ish
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I try to have 10-20 outgoing links to my other related niche blogs at most and maybe 5 of those outgoing links to other people's sites if I get an equal or better trade using linkspun or similar. Also, on my Thumblogger blogs, I put a shared box on most of them and I put links to my blogs that I want indexed faster or just better PR in the shared box to show on them all instantly. This brings those linked sites to a PR2 in a week.

With good handwritten blogs that you want to do better, try making a handful of quick blogs with the same niche and just one way link those to your better blogs and link wheel those feeders to themselves and do usual ping and directory submission. (Keeping a list of good high PR adult blog directories that don't need recips is very helpful for these, especially the ones that don't have a submit limit. Hard to find, though)

I also use bulkping.com for backlinks on new blogs to index faster. Since it takes a while and you can only have one instance of it running at a time per browser, I open it in FF, IE and Chrome with 3 different blogs and let it run every night..



Hard to say since I promote do many affiliates. As far as FHG ratios, I'd guess the average is around 1:800ish
Once again, awesome info! Thanks.

Now i know i'm pushing it but you don't want to share those hard to find PR adult blog dirs that don't need a recip i guess
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"in the shared box to show on them all instantly" what does this mean though?
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I try to have 10-20 outgoing links to my other related niche blogs at most and maybe 5 of those outgoing links to other people's sites if I get an equal or better trade using linkspun or similar. Also, on my Thumblogger blogs, I put a shared box on most of them and I put links to my blogs that I want indexed faster or just better PR in the shared box to show on them all instantly. This brings those linked sites to a PR2 in a week.
(You can do the same thing with 2-5 backlinks by changing the footer.php in each template used using WP or WPMU..)

With good handwritten blogs that you want to do better, try making a handful of quick blogs with the same niche and just one way link those to your better blogs and link wheel those feeders to themselves and do usual ping and directory submission. (Keeping a list of good high PR adult blog directories that don't need recips is very helpful for these, especially the ones that don't have a submit limit. Hard to find, though)

I also use bulkping.com for backlinks on new blogs to index faster. Since it takes a while and you can only have one instance of it running at a time per browser, I open it in FF, IE and Chrome with 3 different blogs and let it run every night..



Hard to say since I promote so many affiliates. As far as FHG ratios, I'd guess the average is around 1:800ish
Do you have a set amount of blogs you create a day or do you just make however many you're in the mood to make? That's my biggest problem, I need to scale up MUCH more.
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Once again, awesome info! Thanks.

Now i know i'm pushing it but you don't want to share those hard to find PR adult blog dirs that don't need a recip i guess
lol, not really since I've spent a while building my list..

I might post a small list when I get back to my desktop, I just formatted this laptop
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Funny how every blog thread just turns into a Q&A with Colmike7 hehe.
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lol, not really since I've spent a while building my list..

I might post a small list when I get back to my desktop, I just formatted this laptop
Well, i'll wait for that then

I'll do my own research on the rest.
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Do you have a set amount of blogs you create a day or do you just make however many you're in the mood to make? That's my biggest problem, I need to scale up MUCH more.
Outsourcing...

That's what i do.
You think i'm gonna build and update 250 blogs this month myself?

As i said in another thread my time is worth more than that. Yours should be as well.
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"in the shared box to show on them all instantly" what does this mean though?
In Thumblogger, there is something called a 'shared box' in the boxes area. That box is the same html for every single blog made in TL. So for example I'd name that box "links" with 5-10 backlinks and maybe a couple ads then put it in the sidebar of every TL blog that I make so that when I add/change links to that box, I only have to change it once and it changes everywhere. It's kinda like footer links on WPMU setup but with Thumblogger
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lol, blogging is kinda my thing
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In Thumblogger, there is something called a 'shared box' in the boxes area. That box is the same html for every single blog made in TL. So for example I'd name that box "links" with 5-10 backlinks and maybe a couple ads then put it in the sidebar of every TL blog that I make so that when I add/change links to that box, I only have to change it once and it changes everywhere. It's kinda like footer links on WPMU setup but with Thumblogger
Ah yeah i saw it on TL but didn't pay attention to it yet. So you put the links in 1 box and it adds it on all your blogs. Right?
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I make blogs whenever I feel like it now since I also do local website/logo design, full time student and mainstream projects. Some days I make 100 some I make just a couple. I did just figure out a way to churn out non-duplicate blogs set to update daily for a couple years at a time super fast so we'll see if things change ;)
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Ah yeah i saw it on TL but didn't pay attention to it yet. So you put the links in 1 box and it adds it on all your blogs. Right?
Right. But be sure to move the shared box over on all of your blogs for it to show up It's useful because when you want to change links, you only have to do it once. And it really helps SEO on those links.
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I make blogs whenever I feel like it now since I also do local website/logo design, full time student and mainstream projects. Some days I make 100 some I make just a couple. I did just figure out a way to churn out non-duplicate blogs set to update daily for a couple years at a time super fast so we'll see if things change ;)
You pull RSS feeds and spin the content right?
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Right. But be sure to move the shared box over on all of your blogs for it to show up It's useful because when you want to change links, you only have to do it once. And it really helps SEO on those links.
Good tip, thanks.
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You pull RSS feeds and spin the content right?
No, better than that. Hard to explain without giving it away since I've never seen it done before..
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