So Jorge Zimmerman, and Just_Alex your attorney please explain. - GoFuckYourself.com

tonyparra · 05-19-2012, 08:13 PM

Trayvon was actually only 5'11" and weighed 158 lbs? So um Jorge a 158 lb 17 yr old beat your ass, I can understand why you shot him now. The witnesses and coroner will be your downfall. Just_Alex have you prepped your client? http://news.yahoo.com/trayvon-martin...opstories.html

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A man listed as witness 13 was one of the first people to approach Zimmerman minutes after the shooting. He saw him bleeding from the back of the head and nose. Zimmerman asked the unidentified man to call his wife for him.
"Let her know what's happening, been involved in a shooting and will be held for questioning," the witness told the Florida Department of Law Enforcement. "He was more like, talking like he was having a hard time, looked like he just got his butt whipped ... not like he was in shock, not like, 'I can't believe I just shot someone,' but like, 'Just tell my wife I just shot someone,' like it was nothing."

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"I do honestly feel that he intended for this kid to die," witness 5 told investigators. "If you're in self defense, shoot him in the leg. He's a 17-year-old, scrawny little kid. You get into a physical fight with him. ... I think the kid was running for help."

CyberHustler · 05-19-2012, 08:18 PM

Gouge · 05-19-2012, 08:20 PM

Do you mean George Zimmerman?

tonyparra · 05-19-2012, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Gouge

Do you mean George Zimmerman?

Jorge fits better...

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 05-19-2012, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Gouge

Do you mean George Zimmerman?

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sandman! · 05-19-2012, 08:30 PM

so because he was not in shock that he shot the scumbag what is the problem ?

tonyparra · 05-19-2012, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sandman!

so because he was not in shock that he shot the scumbag what is the problem ?

I was told Trayvon was 6'4" and towered over Jorge. The real scumbag was Jorge. He should have stayed in his truck.

tonyparra · 05-19-2012, 08:39 PM

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LOL I was feeling like mixing it up a little today

Nookster · 05-19-2012, 08:45 PM

It's very sad, but Zimmerman will walk. No law was violated (yes treyvon was young but he fought, caused obvious harm, and was vigilant). ....bash me please

SuckOnThis · 05-19-2012, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Nookster

It's very sad, but Zimmerman will walk. No law was violated (yes treyvon was young but he fought, caused obvious harm, and was vigilant). ....bash me please

So the pursuer is allowed to defend himself but the pursued isnt, makes perfect sense.

Nookster · 05-19-2012, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

So the pursuer is allowed to defend himself but the pursued isnt, makes perfect sense.

Complete ignorance. I was waiting for this. Ironic your username.

tony286 · 05-19-2012, 09:21 PM

also none of zimmerman's dna was on martin. If you are beating snot out of someone that you are going to kill them. You get a little dna on you.

Radical Bucks · 05-19-2012, 09:22 PM

George Zimmerman does not look white to me, looks more hispanic

Nookster · 05-19-2012, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Radical Bucks

George Zimmerman does not look white to me, looks more hispanic

He has been confirmed hispanic. You are correct sir! Not Caucasian!

SuckOnThis · 05-19-2012, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Nookster

Complete ignorance. I was waiting for this. Ironic your username.

You're a 33 year old guy that lives with his dad in an apartment, you expect me to take you serious?

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 05-19-2012, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyparra

LOL I was feeling like mixing it up a little today

No prob...

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tony286 · 05-19-2012, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

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There are no sides a kid is dead by a guy who had a violent history. Now people have to make the kid a demon to justify George killing him. There are alot of recent pictures he looks like a regular teenage not a monster.

Radical Bucks · 05-19-2012, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Nookster

He has been confirmed hispanic. You are correct sir! Not Caucasian!

Exactly.. the media and black community was outraged by a white guy killing a black guy when this all first came to light.

Everyone ready to blame whites for black crimes, or crimes against blacks.

This so called kid attacked this Hispanic guy, and he was killed for it by his victim. This is how thing should be done.

For example: If a grown man molest a lil girl or boy, I feel the father of that child should be allowed to KILL that predator with out recourse. Justice served!

Next time around hopefully everyone will think twice about attacking people in stores and so forth.

Nookster · 05-19-2012, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

You're a 33 year old guy that lives with his dad in an apartment, you expect me to take you serious?

LOL whatever makes you feel better kid

bushwacker · 05-19-2012, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Radical Bucks

Exactly.. the media and black community was outraged by a white guy killing a black guy when this all first came to light.

Everyone ready to blame whites for black crimes, or crimes against blacks.

This so called kid attacked this Hispanic guy, and he was killed for it by his victim. This is how thing should be done.

For example: If a grown man molest a lil girl or boy, I feel the father of that child should be allowed to KILL that predator with out recourse

are you retarded?

Radical Bucks · 05-19-2012, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bushwacker

are you retarded?

Nope, come put your hands on me and find out.

Robbie · 05-19-2012, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286

also none of zimmerman's dna was on martin. If you are beating snot out of someone that you are going to kill them. You get a little dna on you.

Yes it was Tony. Go to the news story: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/05/17...on-martin.html

Then search for the word "dna" on the page.

"Both Zimmerman and Martin wound up with the other's DNA on their clothes"

They struggled. No matter how small or big the struggle...there was going to be DNA. I don't know where you heard that there was none. That makes no sense at all if there was any contact at all.

tony286 · 05-19-2012, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Yes it was Tony. Go to the news story: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/05/17...on-martin.html

Then search for the word "dna" on the page.

"Both Zimmerman and Martin wound up with the other's DNA on their clothes"

They struggled. No matter how small or big the struggle...there was going to be DNA. I don't know where you heard that there was none. That makes no sense at all if there was any contact at all.

I heard wrong it was earlier in the week. my bad

Robbie · 05-19-2012, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286

I heard wrong it was earlier in the week. my bad

Oh okay. I was gonna say...that sounded a little crazy.

Nookster · 05-19-2012, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Yes it was Tony. Go to the news story: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/05/17...on-martin.html

Then search for the word "dna" on the page.

"Both Zimmerman and Martin wound up with the other's DNA on their clothes"

They struggled. No matter how small or big the struggle...there was going to be DNA. I don't know where you heard that there was none. That makes no sense at all if there was any contact at all.

There obviously was a struggle...doesn't mean either was the aggressor. It's still a toss-up.

CaptainHowdy · 05-19-2012, 09:58 PM

Nookster · 05-19-2012, 09:59 PM

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Robbie · 05-19-2012, 10:02 PM

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There obviously was a struggle...doesn't mean either was the aggressor. It's still a toss-up.

I don't think it really matters who the aggressor is. One man was unarmed and that is where the problem is.

I'm sure that GZ was scared when the bigger black guy started kicking his ass. But if we all drew a gun and shot to death somebody every time we got scared...

I think the prosecutor is ultimately the one who has screwed the case up. She got scared of all the insanity from the black leadership and was afraid of violence erupting.

So she has "over-charged" the case in my opinion. And now if the jury doesn't find him guilty of everything...the black community will be outraged and the bad parts of it will use it as an excuse to riot (and loot and rob every business in the community).

The whole thing is a nightmare. Zimmerman should have stayed in his truck. But I can't honestly say what I would have done in the same situation.
I probably would have gotten out too and confronted Martin. But I'm big enough that most times when I confront folks it doesn't turn into a fight.

Zimmerman was too little (short) to be confronting someone. Which probably led to a pissed off Martin deciding to kick his ass.

So instead of a conversation, it became a fist fight. And GZ brought a gun to a fistfight and we all know what happened.

Nookster · 05-19-2012, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

I don't think it really matters who the aggressor is. One man was unarmed and that is where the problem is.

I'm sure that GZ was scared when the bigger black guy started kicking his ass. But if we all drew a gun and shot to death somebody every time we got scared...

I think the prosecutor is ultimately the one who has screwed the case up. She got scared of all the insanity from the black leadership and was afraid of violence erupting.

So she has "over-charged" the case in my opinion. And now if the jury doesn't find him guilty of everything...the black community will be outraged and the bad parts of it will use it as an excuse to riot (and loot and rob every business in the community).

The whole thing is a nightmare. Zimmerman should have stayed in his truck. But I can't honestly say what I would have done in the same situation.
I probably would have gotten out too and confronted Martin. But I'm big enough that most times when I confront folks it doesn't turn into a fight.

Zimmerman was too little (short) to be confronting someone. Which probably led to a pissed off Martin deciding to kick his ass.

So instead of a conversation, it became a fist fight. And GZ brought a gun to a fistfight and we all know what happened.

Very good point brother.

brassmonkey · 05-19-2012, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Nookster

He has been confirmed hispanic. You are correct sir! Not Caucasian!

he's the only one that doesnt know

Nookster · 05-19-2012, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

he's the only one that doesnt know

lol!!!!!!!!!!!@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PornoMonster · 05-19-2012, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyparra

I was told Trayvon was 6'4" and towered over Jorge. The real scumbag was Jorge. He should have stayed in his truck.

Nevermind the video is in the first link from OP

Timsb · 05-19-2012, 10:24 PM

If he would've did like the 911 operator told him to do and not follow him everything would be fine he better go to jail or go into hiding.

Robbie · 05-19-2012, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Timsb

If he would've did like the 911 operator told him to do and not follow him everything would be fine he better go to jail or go into hiding.

Yep, hindsight is 20/20

I bet every day since then he has wished he had never gotten out of that truck. Or better yet...wished he'd never joined the neighborhood watch.

PornoMonster · 05-19-2012, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Timsb

If he would've did like the 911 operator told him to do and not follow him everything would be fine he better go to jail or go into hiding.

LOL, Hindsight. Just because you are being followed, doesn't give you the right to bash someones head into the sidewalk, he could of killed Zimmerman the Neighborhood watchman. We CONFRONT in our town, if you are doing nothing Wrong, then answer some questions on why you are there.

Why didn't treyvon call the Police, if he was scared from being followed????
His GF said he Called her.........

Robbie · 05-19-2012, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by PornoMonster

LOL, Hindsight. Just because you are being followed, doesn't give you the right to bash someones head into the sidewalk, he could of killed Zimmerman the Neighborhood watchman. We CONFRONT in our town, if you are doing nothing Wrong, then answer some questions on why you are there.

Why didn't treyvon call the Police, if he was scared from being followed????
His GF said he Called her.........

Hang on a minute...I think that Zimmerman obviously didn't "confront" him correctly. If you or anybody else came up to me all cocky and demanded what i was doing...I'd tell you "fuck off, it's a free country"

Now if you came up to me and politely explained that there had been some robberies in the neighborhood and you were the Neighborhood Watch...Then I would politely explain that I was walking to the house and thank you for keeping an eye on the neighborhood.

But nobody has to explain shit to anybody else.

I think that GZ probably didn't approach him with the correct attitude. (short guys are always over aggressive anyway in my experience) Then TM, being young and full of testosterone, felt disrespected and started kicking his ass.

It was obviously a bad situation all the way around.
I'm guessing that the gun gave GZ a false sense of bravado and he should have just stayed in the truck. But hindsight IS 20/20

And now a young man is dead. GZ's life is over too. And both families are ruined.

tonyparra · 05-19-2012, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

I don't think it really matters who the aggressor is. One man was unarmed and that is where the problem is.

I'm sure that GZ was scared when the bigger black guy started kicking his ass. But if we all drew a gun and shot to death somebody every time we got scared...

I think the prosecutor is ultimately the one who has screwed the case up. She got scared of all the insanity from the black leadership and was afraid of violence erupting.

So she has "over-charged" the case in my opinion. And now if the jury doesn't find him guilty of everything...the black community will be outraged and the bad parts of it will use it as an excuse to riot (and loot and rob every business in the community).

The whole thing is a nightmare. Zimmerman should have stayed in his truck. But I can't honestly say what I would have done in the same situation.
I probably would have gotten out too and confronted Martin. But I'm big enough that most times when I confront folks it doesn't turn into a fight.

Zimmerman was too little (short) to be confronting someone. Which probably led to a pissed off Martin deciding to kick his ass.

So instead of a conversation, it became a fist fight. And GZ brought a gun to a fistfight and we all know what happened.

Charge should have been manslaughter

tonyparra · 05-19-2012, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Hang on a minute...I think that Zimmerman obviously didn't "confront" him correctly. If you or anybody else came up to me all cocky and demanded what i was doing...I'd tell you "fuck off, it's a free country"

Now if you came up to me and politely explained that there had been some robberies in the neighborhood and you were the Neighborhood Watch...Then I would politely explain that I was walking to the house and thank you for keeping an eye on the neighborhood.

But nobody has to explain shit to anybody else.

I think that GZ probably didn't approach him with the correct attitude. (short guys are always over aggressive anyway in my experience) Then TM, being young and full of testosterone, felt disrespected and started kicking his ass.

It was obviously a bad situation all the way around.
I'm guessing that the gun gave GZ a false sense of bravado and he should have just stayed in the truck. But hindsight IS 20/20

And now a young man is dead. GZ's life is over too. And both families are ruined.

This

candyflip · 05-20-2012, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by tony286

I heard wrong it was earlier in the week. my bad

You've heard wrong plenty and each time you've come here stating it as fact.

Seems you'd be better off just keeping your mouth shut on the subject.

But that's just my

CyberHustler · 05-20-2012, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

And now if the jury doesn't find him guilty of everything...the black community will be outraged and the bad parts of it will use it as an excuse to riot (and loot and rob every business in the community).

Different day and age homie. If it ain't sports related... fuck a riot. And the demographics changed too.

bronco67 · 05-20-2012, 06:06 AM

Not that being in a neighborhood watch is "man's job", but for the sake of argument lets lump it in with other police-type work. These kind of jobs require an actual man who can handle situations. People get shot (and tazed) when scared little boys are trying to do a man's job. A lot of cops fall into this category also. They're ready to use deadly force at any moment that there's even a possibility of bodily harm coming to them.

BAKO · 05-20-2012, 07:34 AM

Guns are for pussy motherfuckers. I say lock that burrito up

Phoenix · 05-20-2012, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Hang on a minute...I think that Zimmerman obviously didn't "confront" him correctly. If you or anybody else came up to me all cocky and demanded what i was doing...I'd tell you "fuck off, it's a free country"

Now if you came up to me and politely explained that there had been some robberies in the neighborhood and you were the Neighborhood Watch...Then I would politely explain that I was walking to the house and thank you for keeping an eye on the neighborhood.

But nobody has to explain shit to anybody else.

I think that GZ probably didn't approach him with the correct attitude. (short guys are always over aggressive anyway in my experience) Then TM, being young and full of testosterone, felt disrespected and started kicking his ass.

It was obviously a bad situation all the way around.
I'm guessing that the gun gave GZ a false sense of bravado and he should have just stayed in the truck. But hindsight IS 20/20

And now a young man is dead. GZ's life is over too. And both families are ruined.

yes...this is what most likely happened.

CyberHustler · 05-20-2012, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Nookster

He has been confirmed hispanic. You are correct sir! Not Caucasian!

He a "self proclaimed" latino.

Latino is not a race, It's a culture. His dad is white, and his mom is from Peru... a latino country where the largest ethnic group is Amerindians, second largest is white (with whites at the top of the societal hierarchy).

Dude is more than likely a pure white boy, but if he ain't then he's part "Indian", still mostly a white boy though.

Nice try though guys, he's still yours

tony286 · 05-20-2012, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

You've heard wrong plenty and each time you've come here stating it as fact.

Seems you'd be better off just keeping your mouth shut on the subject.

But that's just my

I was adult enough to say I made a mistake. You want to see this kid as a monster to rationalize George blowing him away be my guest. I dont think he got beat as bad a he said and also he had a temper problem and a daddy who made it all better. He wanted to this to happen if not he would would of stayed in the truck.

theking · 05-20-2012, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

Not that being in a neighborhood watch is "man's job", but for the sake of argument lets lump it in with other police-type work. These kind of jobs require an actual man who can handle situations. People get shot (and tazed) when scared little boys are trying to do a man's job. A lot of cops fall into this category also. They're ready to use deadly force at any moment that there's even a possibility of bodily harm coming to them.

Police generally react to a situation as they are trained to do...some don't.

raymor · 05-20-2012, 09:36 AM

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shoot him in the leg

Absolutely always wrong in any situation. If he's beating you down to point you think he may kill you, you at the attacker, the center of the target, not try a trick shot at a moving limb. If you're NOT in fear for you life or greivous bodily harm, you don't shoot at all.

Shooting at center mass with the intent to stop the attacker as quickly and surely as possible may be self defense. Trying to wound someone is aggravated mayhem.

1215 · 05-20-2012, 09:41 AM

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No prob...

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bahahahahahah that sums up the media perfectly!

DBS.US · 05-20-2012, 11:02 AM

Next time Mace

baddog · 05-20-2012, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Timsb

If he would've did like the 911 operator told him to do and not follow him everything would be fine he better go to jail or go into hiding.

I suspect you do not have a clue what the 911 dispatcher told him; since what was released to the public was later determined to be doctored by a reporter that was later fired.

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