AdultKing

I am considering funding a 24 hour / 7 day per week global hotline to report illegal and stolen content on File Lockers.

My thought is to have a toll free number that anyone can call to make a report. Sites on which file locker uploaders also discuss their "business" could also be reported.

Thoughts ?

Klen

What's wrong with mail form report ?

AdultKing

Some people like anonymity.

seeme

I think explaining all these URL's over a phone will not work.

Klen

Hmm i dont know for you but i consider E-mail form more anonymous then calling,i mean when you call it can be recorded plus your phone number can be seen while when you send e-mail everything is anonymous.Even sending ordinary letter is more anonymous then phone.

AdultKing

We'd only need a site name and a short description of the offending content.

19teenporn

Go ahead, do it if you feel is right.

AdultKing

We already have a contact form. I have had several messages saying that people are worried about using it. It's a bit of a catch 22, but if we guaranteed anonymity on a hotline people who are still concerned could use a payphone.

AdultKing

I'm not yet decided which is why I posed the question.

I guess it could have some small psychological impact on file locker owners to know that there was a global hotline they could be reported to.

seeme

I could never see this happening.

Klen

What to worry?I mean there is no requirement to leave your data right,you post bad url and that's it.If someone is worried about having his ip recorded or something like that,then he can use anonymous service like hidemyass.com(or other since that one is owned by pirates hehe)

mafia_man

Although I applaud your enthusiasm I don't think shit will happen with Paypal in the short-term.

Also, do you read the news? Megaupload might be back online soon.

AdultKing

I know that, you know that but that hasn't stopped me getting messages saying that people dont want to use the form.

Anyway, it's just an idea I was throwing out there. I'm willing to set one up if it's useful, if not then no worries.

epitome

Put on top of the form that if they wish to remain anonymous to visit the form from hidemyass.com.

epitome

Oops didn't read the whole thread.

Nautilus

Yes a small psychological impact is possible, but it wouldn't amount to anything of substance - they're not going to close up shops because of a hotline. Not a single one of them.

I think this hotline will eat alot of resources - not only the money spent to maintain it, but time as well to work with those reports, while most of them will be pointless or repeat reperts of what we already know. Besides, what do you really need it for? To know about piracy - but we're the webmasters, we know those sites better than anybody else and can report any amount of them. Just let us know what do you need, because it's you who's in contact with paypal and only you can know what works on them. Just let us know what do you need, and in what format - lists of piracy sites (mainstream/adult), screenshots (featuring what? what format and resolution?), how many per site etc. Just create a description of format and let us to take care of reports - ppl will be sending you lots of them, I'm pretty sure of that. But they need some guidance because nobody wants their efforts to be wasted because you needed something else for paypal.

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AdultKing

Thanks for the feedback everyone. I appreciate it.

AdultKing

I no longer need screenshots, however I do need lists of sites on which File Lockers advertise to affiliates and places where file locker uploaders discuss their trade. I have a big list already but the more the better.

seeme

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I would go with a from through a third party company.

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ottopottomouse

Can you afford the results of your freephone numbers being called for fun?

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AdultKing

Cost isn't an issue. I am in a position to completely fund all of these efforts, however I would appreciate any support that anyone wants to offer to help offset my own costs.

However, if nobody contributes a cent then this project will still proceed without contributions.

JOKER

I think a toll-free number to report illegal / stolen content is a great idea and easy to push on social media, web sites (makes pornslingers look like they care to their surfers) on blogs, and oh on TV ;-)

Lots of people with children out there that would appreciate a # they could report stuff they find to...

Just make sure to mention it is 100% CONFIDENTIAL - who likes calling in things when they're not sure if you name them later or so...

#StopFileLockers should be easy to reach and follow on any medium and a toll-free # would make a great addition (also in terms of pressure)

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MarkDeus

People are still using a phone?!

I thought this Android thing I had in my pocket was for texting

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JOKER

Yup, lot's of people actually do use their phones for more than whacking off

Now that you mention it, there are things like SMS gateways - but then again, most phones have email these days so not sure it's a good point.

But an app to report illegal content for iPhone / iPad / Android - would be a cool thing.

Any App developers out there that want to give their public image a boost and support #OperationCleanup ?

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ottopottomouse

I didn't mean can you afford legitimate calls, I meant have you thought about several thousand people auto-dialing you all day?

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JOKER

Cool, so this could also be used to get phone #'s of people involved in the illegal file-lockers or their affiliates and with this an extra piece of data on them - sweet.

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Theo

A lot of people can barely spell a domain over the phone, let alone a full URL.

HomerSimpson

website is better IMO

there's no need to phone about it...
when you can just copy/paste and submit the data...

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JOKER

Let me google that for you Theo

No need to spell full URL's just xyzfilehost.com + filename, rest can be found.

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AdultKing

After discussions with a non adult contact who is involved in this, we have decided to set up a 24 hour/7 day hotline. I'll post details once it's active.

Theo

Not all links are spidered by Google, you know that better than me :-) Also a filename is not a hash and you may have to go through 1000s of results to find the right one, you may as well have a short url script

DWB

Form all the way. Everyone sits at their computer all day. That is the logical way to report it.

If you can get some non adult people to spend their time looking stuff up and reporting it, I suppose a phone would work, but that is going to be a process.

double you double you double you dot file hosting dot com slash folder slash... er... dash... is it a dash or slash? Uh... slash four eight nine two a as in apple seven c as in cat f as in foxtrot, uh... did i say c already? hmmmm... this looks like a dash but i dont know what its called. anyway... four t as in uh... what can i use for t....

seeme

AdultKing

The plan is to collect the name of the offending site and the type of file/name of software/category of offending content depending on each case , no need for urls

Tijuana_Tom

Telephone hotline? To report internet sites?

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Nautilus

If you need a list of piracy sites let me know. We have thousands in the database - those include tubes and torrents too though, but we can weed them out. And also harvest from Google any amount of new ones, since they're popping up every day and our database is far from being complete.

We can also add a few examples for each site of what kind of stuff is being "shared" there.

Just let us know what do you need.

You can also check here, they have a pretty nice list of adult piracy sites, inluding forums and blogs where file locker links are being posted:

http://www.thepornlist.net/

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Get a pay as you go cell phone and use the voice mail

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Tijuana_Tom

This cracks me up.

Was any thought actually put into this?

You gotta think about the process of giving you the required information.

Then you have to think of the possibility of people abusing the service and tying up the phone line.



"Uhh Hii Uhh yes uhh w w w dot extremefiles dot c o m that is e x t r e m e f i l e Z dot co m FORWARD SLASH bin FORWARD SLASH u928192 FORDWARD SLASH 202iw92 FORWARD SLASH no wait fuck let me start... *BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPPPPPPPPP*"

In reality AdultKing's thought process for this idea was "How can I be original?" as retarded as that sounds. Not "What is the easiest way for people to send me info I need."

App is also retarded. Why the hell would you think someone would want to send this info through their Smartphone app? LOL Typing all that shit out on a iphone.

k0nr4d

I don't know the inner workings of your campaign, but I dont think that's the best idea.

- it's hard to dictate url over the phone
- it won't have THAT much psychological effect. No one will shut down because there is a phone number
- I don't know your business background or sponsoring regarding this project, but I suspect you can't run this crusade by yourself forever and funding a 24hr hotlink out of pocket will get really pricey.

I think a confidential form that doesn't log ip address and doesn't request email address or anything is a better option. If you want to go that route, hit me up and I can give you a hand.
Alternatively, if you want to make it "quick and easy" to report CP and stuff, some kind of firefox plugin or something might be more effective then a hotline...

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AdultKing

The hotline will ask two things of people. The name of the site and the type of infringing material. These two things will go into a database and as patterns emerge we will prioritize the sites with those names. It's going to be very simple for the caller. We don't need urls we just need site names. We dont need file names, we just need to know what the type of material is: ie: is it pirate software, child porn, pirate movies and so on.

It may have some psychological effect, but this is not it's sole aim. It's aim is to provide us with a clearinghouse of patterns.

This whole campaign has been pricey, in fact the cost so far has been considerable because of the methodical way in which research and communications is being conducted. This isn't about money, it's about achieving a goal. The goal being to tear apart the illegal file locker industry.

AllAboutCams

I guess its a good idea for some people but i would prefer email/message form.

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