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mikesouth · 07-26-2012, 06:05 PM

The Last Waltz or any rock doc from Scorsese

I liked "Dreams With Sharp teeth"

Drugs Inc

Heckler

Masterminds

Jayvis · 07-26-2012, 06:17 PM

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Surprised nobody's mentioned it.. An Inconvenient Truth

A nice counter argument doc was made against this... I'm no where near an expert on the subject but both are worth watching to get differing view points. It's called "Cool It" and it's on Netflix instant.

wehateporn · 07-26-2012, 06:30 PM

We do have to be very careful with Climate Change now that it's being used politically, ever since the United Nations think tank 'The Club of Rome' admitted it was a good way to scam their global taxes in place. That's not to say there can't be some truth in Climate Change, whether natural or man-made, but there's a giant swindle planned and we have to prevent it. Al Gore is a Club of Rome board member, so he's one of the con men we have to watch out for.

Here's what the Club of Rome planned in one of their documents

"In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up
with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming,
water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these
dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through
changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome.
The real enemy then, is humanity itself."
- Club of Rome Publication, The First Global Revolution

And now it's clear that they selected Global Warming (which they now call Climate Change) as their technique for bringing in their taxes. That's what the UN climate change treaties are really about, imagine if they were honest and said "We want a world government so we need taxes for all nations"...nobody would accept this, so that's why we need to be scammed with an outside threat, which is relevant to every nation.

We do need to look after the planet, very true, but there have been unlimited amounts of money pumped towards anyone who is willing to 'prove' that the Earth is heating up. If scientists start proving that it's not heating up, or that it's cooling down, they don't get any further funding. The Rockefeller's fund Climate Change, it's an investment to eventually get their global taxes in place to fund the United Nations.

So yes, we do need to look after the planet, but we have to keep the United Nations/Bankers/Club of Rome (including Al Gore) well away from this when proposing any solutions/improvements.

DTK · 07-26-2012, 06:48 PM

Wehateporn - I hear ya and agree with what your saying regarding agendas. Regardless, look at the data & the fact that nearly all climate scientists agree that climate change is man-made this time around.

Also, in terms of those 2% that don't agree...keep in mind that people like the Koch Brothers endow professorships at universities, and make sure that man-made climate change doubters get those gigs. That's not speculation, that's fact.

Which brings me to my next recommendation:

u-Bob · 07-26-2012, 07:11 PM

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Wehateporn - I hear ya and agree with what your saying regarding agendas. Regardless, look at the data & the fact that nearly all climate scientists agree that climate change is man-made this time around.

No offense, but that's a logical fallacy. Whether or not something is true or false does not depend on the amount of people who believe it to be true or false.

There used to be a time that the majority of the experts all agreed that the earth was flat.

Given the fact that we have only one earth, it's impossible to do controlled tests of the man made global warming hypotheses and it is thus by definition impossible to empirically prove (or disprove) them.

Taking into account the complexity of this planet and everything that happens in, on and around it and taking into account our (still) limited knowledge and understanding of the many forces that are at play (most of them a lot older than life itself on this planet), I'd say it would be very imprudent to jump to conclusions. Especially 'conclusions' spread by those who would benefit financially from the so called solutions to the so called problem they claim to have identified.

When I first started going to school, the teacher told us a new ice age was coming. A few years later, another teacher warned us that instead of global cooling we would have global warming and that by the year 2000 cities like New York would be swallowed by the sea.

It's now 2012 and New Yorkers still aren't going to work by rubber boat. And I see they've changed the name of the 'problem' again. This time from 'global warming' to 'climate change'.

Freaky_Akula · 07-26-2012, 07:37 PM

You could tell climate change was not really a problem when they suggested a tax as the solution.

DTK · 07-26-2012, 07:39 PM

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No offense, but that's a logical fallacy. Whether or not something is true or false does not depend on the amount of people who believe it to be true or false.

There used to be a time that the majority of the experts all agreed that the earth was flat.

None taken, and (no offense to you either) imo you're on some shaky logical ground yourself. Making comparisons to the 'experts' of (let's say) 500 years is pretty weak. I mean, i don't think i even need to go into any depth about how far science has come since then.

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When I first started going to school, the teacher told us a new ice age was coming. A few years later, another teacher warned us that instead of global cooling we would have global warming and that by the year 2000 cities like New York would be swallowed by the sea.

You know what? They were both right.

Teacher #1 was right in that every time in Earth's history where CO2 levels reached a critical point, an ice age ensued very shortly thereafter.

Obviously his timing was off, but Teacher #2 was right as well in that we are already seeing sea levels rise due to the rapid melting of the polar ice caps and other huge ice formations like the Greenland polar ice sheets.

Interesting article that ties the two http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2003/ja...onment.science. it's an older article, but still.

leg4 · 07-26-2012, 11:49 PM

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"This video tells the story of how Dr. Burzynski, and the patients his therapy has cured of what are normally terminal cancers, have fought the FDA and the big drug companies who have continually and systematically tried to discredit and punish a man who's only purpose in life has been to develop and perfect a life-giving and non-toxic cure for the disease of the 20th century. "

Burzynski: Cancer is Serious Business FDA Tyranny

That's a big time important video.

huey · 07-26-2012, 11:56 PM

Smartest guys in the room. The Enron story. Capitalism at it's best.

Danny B · 07-27-2012, 12:54 AM

Vice has been putting a ton of interesting/crazy docs on youtube recently.
https://youtube.com/user/vice/videos?sort=p&view=0

This one got under my skin

Si · 07-27-2012, 09:07 AM

Just finished watching Forks over Knives, I tried a similar diet before and failed, time to try again

Really well done doc, more people need to see it.

digi · 07-27-2012, 12:10 PM

Senna is a must see

Si · 07-27-2012, 12:28 PM

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Senna is a must see

Yes! Thanks for reminding me, put that down on a list somewhere a while ago and keep forgetting to watch it

DTK · 07-27-2012, 04:35 PM

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Senna is a must see

This was awesome! Saw it in the theater, and the director was there and he held a Q&A session afterward. Very cool.

waltgator · 07-27-2012, 05:53 PM

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This was awesome! Saw it in the theater, and the director was there and he held a Q&A session afterward. Very cool.

as much as i love F1 racing, i have yet to see this & hear great things about it...gonna have to watch it asap!

DTK · 07-27-2012, 08:43 PM

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as much as i love F1 racing, i have yet to see this & hear great things about it...gonna have to watch it asap!

The blu-ray version i found online is about an hour longer than the theatrical version. they had to cut it quite a bit to appeal to a wider audience. One guy asked the director about that, and he said something like 'if the longer version was our theatrical release, we never would have had a theatrical release' lol.

Si · 07-27-2012, 09:00 PM

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This was awesome! Saw it in the theater, and the director was there and he held a Q&A session afterward. Very cool.

Just wondering, because of your posts in this thread so far seem a little weird to me, and I put weight on to me because I have just re-read them twice and don't get your perspective.

What I mean by that is your posts are making it sound like global warming is true but people are making it out to be a myth, yet various sources suggest 75% - 98% of people believe in it.

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Also, in terms of those 2% that don't agree...keep in mind that people like the Koch Brothers endow professorships at universities, and make sure that man-made climate change doubters get those gigs. That's not speculation, that's fact.

Really?

Not true at all, and according to wehateporn in previous threads it is a tax conspiracy.

So which is it? It absolutely cannot be both.......

Unless that is the median health care bullshit which fails when governments and insurance Cos become involved.

waltgator · 07-27-2012, 09:03 PM

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The blu-ray version i found online is about an hour longer than the theatrical version. they had to cut it quite a bit to appeal to a wider audience. One guy asked the director about that, and he said something like 'if the longer version was our theatrical release, we never would have had a theatrical release' lol.

awesome! Thanks! ill be shopping for that this weekend! good to know!

DTK · 07-27-2012, 10:04 PM

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Just wondering, because of your posts in this thread so far seem a little weird to me, and I put weight on to me because I have just re-read them twice and don't get your perspective.

What I mean by that is your posts are making it sound like global warming is true but people are making it out to be a myth, yet various sources suggest 75% - 98% of people believe in it.

Fair questions. Actually, I'm pointing out that 98% of climate scientists believe that not only is global warming real, it is man-made this time around.

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Also, in terms of those 2% that don't agree...keep in mind that people like the Koch Brothers endow professorships at universities, and make sure that man-made climate change doubters get those gigs. That's not speculation, that's fact.

Really?

Not true at all, and according to wehateporn in previous threads it is a tax conspiracy.

So which is it? It absolutely cannot be both.......

Unless that is the median health care bullshit which fails when governments and insurance Cos become involved.

It absolutely can be both.

For instance, Koch Industries is the second-largest privately owned company in the US. the Koch brothers personal net worth is a combined $70 Billion. They are huge players in the oil & coal industries (ie massive pollution) and the timber industry (ie cutting down fuckTons of trees). As they wish to continue making shitloads of money, they fund global warming denial professorships, politicians and 'think tanks' so they can continue raping the planet as they like.

Likewise, they also fund politicians and think tanks that advocate massive tax cuts for the very rich at the expense of everyone else. So who's left holding the bag for any taxes to pay for stuff? The rest of us.

There's all sorts of info out about these guys in particular. They're not at all sly. And they are FAR from the only ones.

Si · 07-31-2012, 09:12 AM

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Fair questions. Actually, I'm pointing out that 98% of climate scientists believe that not only is global warming real, it is man-made this time around.

It absolutely can be both.

For instance, Koch Industries is the second-largest privately owned company in the US. the Koch brothers personal net worth is a combined $70 Billion. They are huge players in the oil & coal industries (ie massive pollution) and the timber industry (ie cutting down fuckTons of trees). As they wish to continue making shitloads of money, they fund global warming denial professorships, politicians and 'think tanks' so they can continue raping the planet as they like.

Likewise, they also fund politicians and think tanks that advocate massive tax cuts for the very rich at the expense of everyone else. So who's left holding the bag for any taxes to pay for stuff? The rest of us.

There's all sorts of info out about these guys in particular. They're not at all sly. And they are FAR from the only ones.

Fair enough will have to look that up, All I know is there seems to be stranger weather patterns than 20 years ago from personal memory, but that could all be part of a cycle as far as I know.

Just been going over Zeitgeist 2010 and the addendum(b) one. They are making so many mistakes in their documentaries it is like Swiss cheese with all the holes, it doesn't take long to find sources to the contrary of what they believe or to use some simple logic to disprove their statements.

DTK · 07-31-2012, 01:58 PM

Si, the lesson is always "Follow the Money".

Great thread btw, thanks for starting it!

Elli · 07-31-2012, 02:17 PM

The Story of the Weeping Camel is a good one. Long, but worth it.
Control Room if you haven't seen it yet, though it's somewhat dated now.

Ecchi22 · 07-31-2012, 04:26 PM

Since I didn't saw these listed and you liked Food Inc:

The Cove - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1313104/
Plastic Planet - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1292648/

DTK · 07-31-2012, 05:01 PM

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This is one of the most important videos you'll ever see; an interview with Aaron Russo, former friend of Nick Rockefeller. He was dying from Cancer and decided to spill the beans on the Rockefeller's plans for the world

Reflections And Warnings - An Interview With Aaron Russo

Ron Paul mentioning Russo's Freedom to Fascism documentary.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=LmNdu...eature=related

Young · 07-31-2012, 09:52 PM

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In the Name of the Father (based on a true story).

Conspiracy (a recreation of the Wannsee Conference)

Beyond the Steppes (the writer/director based the story on the life of her grandmother.) (worth watching!)

The People Vs. Larry Flynt

Das Experiment (A psychological experiment in which test subjects are divided into "prisoners" and "guards". Story based on the 1971 stanford experiments.)

Dirty Pictures (A museum curator on trial for displaying "obscene" photographs defends his free speech rights. Based on a true story.)

and: Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (fiction, but banned in a lot of countries because of how critical it was of certain political practices)

Not one listed above is a documentary...

Young · 07-31-2012, 10:06 PM

Senna is definitely one of the best in the last few years.

If you like "American Movie" you'll love "Overnight"

Overnight
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0390336/

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A documentary on the rise and stumble of Troy Duffy, the bartender-cum-filmmaker who was swept up by Miramax's Harvey Weinstein to turn his script for The Boondock Saints into a feature film.

The guy who stars in the doc blew one of the biggest chances anyone will ever get because of his ego.

Other notables off the top of my head:
Man on Wire
Hoop Dreams
When We Were Kings
The Thin Blue Line
The Times of Harvey Milk
Project Nim
The Interrupters

I'm a huge Documentary fan. I have a ton more that I can't think of right now. I'll also quickly recommend pretty much anything by Louis Theroux for some light viewing.

07-26-2012, 06:05 PM	#101
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07-26-2012, 06:30 PM	#103
wehateporn Promoting Debate on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 27,173	We do have to be very careful with Climate Change now that it's being used politically, ever since the United Nations think tank 'The Club of Rome' admitted it was a good way to scam their global taxes in place. That's not to say there can't be some truth in Climate Change, whether natural or man-made, but there's a giant swindle planned and we have to prevent it. Al Gore is a Club of Rome board member, so he's one of the con men we have to watch out for. Here's what the Club of Rome planned in one of their documents "In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy then, is humanity itself." - Club of Rome Publication, The First Global Revolution And now it's clear that they selected Global Warming (which they now call Climate Change) as their technique for bringing in their taxes. That's what the UN climate change treaties are really about, imagine if they were honest and said "We want a world government so we need taxes for all nations"...nobody would accept this, so that's why we need to be scammed with an outside threat, which is relevant to every nation. We do need to look after the planet, very true, but there have been unlimited amounts of money pumped towards anyone who is willing to 'prove' that the Earth is heating up. If scientists start proving that it's not heating up, or that it's cooling down, they don't get any further funding. The Rockefeller's fund Climate Change, it's an investment to eventually get their global taxes in place to fund the United Nations. So yes, we do need to look after the planet, but we have to keep the United Nations/Bankers/Club of Rome (including Al Gore) well away from this when proposing any solutions/improvements. __________________ Sexy Girls Teasing

07-26-2012, 06:48 PM	#104
DTK Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The 510 Posts: 4,545	Wehateporn - I hear ya and agree with what your saying regarding agendas. Regardless, look at the data & the fact that nearly all climate scientists agree that climate change is man-made this time around. Also, in terms of those 2% that don't agree...keep in mind that people like the Koch Brothers endow professorships at universities, and make sure that man-made climate change doubters get those gigs. That's not speculation, that's fact. Which brings me to my next recommendation: __________________ Arguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.

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07-27-2012, 12:54 AM	#110
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07-27-2012, 09:07 AM	#111
Si Such Fun! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 13,900	Just finished watching Forks over Knives, I tried a similar diet before and failed, time to try again Really well done doc, more people need to see it.

07-27-2012, 12:10 PM	#112
digi Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ON, Canada Posts: 1,314	Senna is a must see __________________

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DTK Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The 510 Posts: 4,545	Si, the lesson is always "Follow the Money". Great thread btw, thanks for starting it! __________________ Arguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.

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07-31-2012, 04:26 PM	#123
Ecchi22 Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 10,012	Since I didn't saw these listed and you liked Food Inc: The Cove - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1313104/ Plastic Planet - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1292648/ __________________