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Old 12-03-2012, 04:07 PM   #1
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New picture surfaces of George Zimmerman bloddied the fuck up (IMG)

Will this change the outcome?
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wouldn't you kick his ass if he was about to pull a gun on you?
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wouldn't you kick his ass if he was about to pull a gun on you?
You can't be serious... the reason a gun was pulled was because he was getting the shit beat out of him... it's called self-defense...
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wouldn't you kick his ass if he was about to pull a gun on you?
nope he would be not with us anymore
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You can't be serious... the reason a gun was pulled was because he was getting the shit beat out of him... it's called self-defense...
Wouldn't you beat the shit out of someone if they kept following you everywhere and coming at you and yelling at you? If they even pursued you at night when you ran from them?

The whole situation is fucked up. Zimmerman should have waited for the cops. If he was that determined to follow Trayvon, he should have stayed back and watched where Trayvon went, so he could tell the PROPER authorities. He should not have acted like he was a fucking cop and confronted hahahahahaha. That being said, I'm sure there's plenty of elements of what hahahahahaha did that he shouldn't have done as well.

Just a fucked up situation all around...
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Definitely a really badly broken nose. What's gonna fuck him is all the lying about his finances after the fact.
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Wouldn't you beat the shit out of someone if they kept following you everywhere and coming at you and yelling at you? If they even pursued you at night when you ran from them?

The whole situation is fucked up. Zimmerman should have waited for the cops. If he was that determined to follow Trayvon, he should have stayed back and watched where Trayvon went, so he could tell the PROPER authorities. He should not have acted like he was a fucking cop and confronted hahahahahaha. That being said, I'm sure there's plenty of elements of what hahahahahaha did that he shouldn't have done as well.

Just a fucked up situation all around...
no shit PERIOD
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Zimmerman is now offering his autograph in exchange for donations...



So far, 248 likes, 1,211 dislikes. The PR campaign is not doing to well.



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Wouldn't you beat the shit out of someone if they kept following you everywhere and coming at you and yelling at you? If they even pursued you at night when you ran from them?

The whole situation is fucked up. Zimmerman should have waited for the cops. If he was that determined to follow Trayvon, he should have stayed back and watched where Trayvon went, so he could tell the PROPER authorities. He should not have acted like he was a fucking cop and confronted hahahahahaha. That being said, I'm sure there's plenty of elements of what hahahahahaha did that he shouldn't have done as well.

Just a fucked up situation all around...
You act like it's okay to beat the shit out of someone because they appear to be following you. It's illegal to beat the shit out of someone.

And if you beat the shit out of someone with a gun you're probably going to get shot. That's just common sense. He picked the wrong guy to beat up.
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You act like it's okay to beat the shit out of someone because they appear to be following you. It's illegal to beat the shit out of someone.

And if you beat the shit out of someone with a gun you're probably going to get shot. That's just common sense. He picked the wrong guy to beat up.
No, I said they both made poor decisions, I'm not defending either...they both fucked up. Are you saying that it's ok to not only excessive follow someone who isn't actually doing anything wrong, and then confront them aggressively? You mention it's illegal to beat the shit out of someone (and I never said otherwise), but I'm sure that some type of harrasment charges could have been levied against Zimmerman had the results of the night turned out different. Kids talk shit to each other at school now and get charged with harrasment and "terroristic threats." Zimmerman would be guilty of at least that.

The argument is being made that Zimmerman was standing his ground and that's why Trayvon (since Mar.tin is fucking censored...) ended up shot. The same argument could be made that Trayvon beat the shit out of Zimmerman because he was standing his ground against someone who was stalking and harrasing him on his way home from the store. It works both ways and neither is right.
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No, I said they both made poor decisions, I'm not defending either...they both fucked up. Are you saying that it's ok to not only excessive follow someone who isn't actually doing anything wrong, and then confront them aggressively? You mention it's illegal to beat the shit out of someone (and I never said otherwise), but I'm sure that some type of harrasment charges could have been levied against Zimmerman had the results of the night turned out different. Kids talk shit to each other at school now and get charged with harrasment and "terroristic threats." Zimmerman would be guilty of at least that.

The argument is being made that Zimmerman was standing his ground and that's why Trayvon (since Mar.tin is fucking censored...) ended up shot. The same argument could be made that Trayvon beat the shit out of Zimmerman because he was standing his ground against someone who was stalking and harrasing him on his way home from the store. It works both ways and neither is right.
Zimmerman wasn't some random stalker on the streets following people around, he was working as a neighborhood watchman or whatever it's called and he saw someone that he thought looked like they were up to no good, and when that person started to violently attack him his suspicions were confirmed. Then, in order to save his own life, he decided to use his weapon on the attacker.

People will try to justify Trayvon's attack on Zimmerman because Zimmerman was "following him," but that's not the way the law works, it isn't legal to beat someone up simply because they are walking near you.
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Zimmerman wasn't some random stalker on the streets following people around, he was working as a neighborhood watchman or whatever it's called and he saw someone that he thought looked like they were up to no good,
I think you're missing the fact that being a neighborhood watchman doesn't give him any more legal power than Trayvon had. If you get elected to your neighborhood watch, you picked to "watch to see if you see anything suspicous or wrong so you can report it to the authorities." Being in the neighborhood watch does not make you an authority. It doesn't give you a badge, and it doesn't give you a special right to carry a gun. I could go be the neighborhood watch in my neighborhood with absolutely no background credentials. You act like he had some sort of fucking power as the neighborhood watchman. It's not like he was a security guard in a uniform and marked vehicle in a gate community.

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and when that person started to violently attack him his suspicions were confirmed. Then, in order to save his own life, he decided to use his weapon on the attacker.

People will try to justify Trayvon's attack on Zimmerman because Zimmerman was "following him," but that's not the way the law works, it isn't legal to beat someone up simply because they are walking near you.
So Trayvon just ran up to Zimmermans truck, yanked him out of it and started beating the shit out of him unprovoked? I'm supposed to believe that Zimmerman was staying back, minding his own business and observing (like he should have been as a neighborhood watchman), waiting for the PROPER authorities to arrive, and that out of nowhere, Trayvon just decided to attack him? Jesus, this is the most retarded shit I've ever heard in my life. I love how you downplay Zimmerman's role in this: "he was walking near him." Yeah, sure he was. The accounts I've read of this indicate that Zimmerman was doing far more than simply "walking near" Trayvon. Good lord....lol.

I guarantee you that Trayvon felt threatened and that's why he attacked....if in fact he even attacked first. But do I think he handled the situation right? Fuck no.

I'm trying to look at both sides, and I acknowledge that BOTH parties involved made poor choices, and you're so hell-bent on seeing one side that you can't be objective and see things for what they are: a total fucked up situation where both people made the wrong choices.

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No way people even still think he is white, they believe the first thing the media said.
A white racist killed an innocent boy with a lollypop in his mouth.
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So Trayvon just ran up to Zimmermans truck, yanked him out of it and started beating the shit out of him unprovoked? I'm supposed to believe that Zimmerman was staying back, minding his own business and observing (like he should have been as a neighborhood watchman), waiting for the PROPER authorities to arrive, and that out of nowhere, Trayvon just decided to attack him? Jesus, this is the most retarded shit I've ever heard in my life. I love how you downplay Zimmerman's role in this: "he was walking near him." Yeah, sure he was. The accounts I've read of this indicate that Zimmerman was doing far more than simply "walking near" Trayvon. Good lord....lol.

I guarantee you that Trayvon felt threatened and that's why he attacked....if in fact he even attacked first. But do I think he handled the situation right? Fuck no.
What is it exactly that you think Zimmerman did to Trayvon that warranted a violent attack? You can't beat the shit out of someone because you think they are following you or they asked you what you're doing.
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So far, 248 likes, 1,211 dislikes. The PR campaign is not doing to well.
I'd say it's going quite well. A social interaction is a social interaction as far as Google is concerned. Zimmerman should run a SEO campaign.
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What is it exactly that you think Zimmerman did to Trayvon that warranted a violent attack? You can't beat the shit out of someone because you think they are following you or they asked you what you're doing.
Why do you think Trayvon would just attack Zimmerman for no rhyme or reason? It's been stated over and over that no one knows for sure who started the physical altercation (well, Zimmerman does, but no one would expect him to come out and say he did, if he did).

I can't prove to you that Zimmerman started it and you can't prove to me that Trayvon attacked Zimmerman completely unprovoked. As I've said over and over, it takes two to tango, and both people were in the wrong in this situation. Yet somehow you fail to acknowledge that and keep defending Zimmerman as the town savior.
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You can't be serious... the reason a gun was pulled was because he was getting the shit beat out of him... it's called self-defense...
It's not. The reports say Zimmerman called 911 constantly. The recording clearly shows he was looking for trouble and I think, a reason to pull the trigger. The "shoot first / self defines / whatever its called" gun law in FLorida and other states is a disgrace. If Zimmerman gets off there will (and should be) huge protests. (The lack of proper) gun laws in the US is seriously out of control.
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Why do you think Trayvon would just attack Zimmerman for no rhyme or reason?
Because he was a thug who would do something like beat someone up. Did you read his Twitter account? He was a typical angry gangsta-type black youth.

He saw Zimmerman following him and he dealt with that the only way he knew: violence.

"Punk ass cracka gonna follow me, fuck dat I'ma whoop yo ass!" lol
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(The lack of proper) gun laws in the US is seriously out of control.
We already have gun laws, it's illegal to use them to murder someone (except self defense) or to commit a robbery.

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And what would a "proper" gun law be?
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This again?

To me the bottom line is this: We know how it all started and we know how it ended. What we don't know is what happened in between and how the two came to be fighting. Since hahahahahaha is no longer alive it all rests on Zimmerman and whether or not he is credible to the jury. That is, unless, the police have some kind of evidence that we don't yet know about.

If the jury believes his story he will likely get off. If they don't, he is going to jail for a long time. So far, he has done a lot of misleading of the court so he is not off to a good start and if I were him I would be very scared.
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It's not. The reports say Zimmerman called 911 constantly. The recording clearly shows he was looking for trouble and I think, a reason to pull the trigger. The "shoot first / self defines / whatever its called" gun law in FLorida and other states is a disgrace. If Zimmerman gets off there will (and should be) huge protests. (The lack of proper) gun laws in the US is seriously out of control.
The reports also state that the 911 operator told Zimmerman "we don't need you to do that" when Zimmerman said he was out of his truck pursuing Trayvon. Recordings from a Trayvon cell phone call had him on the phone when Zimmerman approached him on foot, defying the instructions that the 911 operator had given him.

As for your claims, Mark, that Zimmerman was looking for trouble, one could speculate that he was overzealous in his pursuit of Trayvon based on recent frustrations with neighborhood encounters:

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Again, I'm not taking sides, as I think both were in the wrong. But for anyone to paint Zimmerman as a saint, or not having done anything wrong in this situation is completely ridiculous.
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Again, I'm not taking sides, as I think both were in the wrong. But for anyone to paint Zimmerman as a saint, or not having done anything wrong in this situation is completely ridiculous.
He didn't do anything to deserve having someone whoop the shit out of him and slamming his head into the concrete.
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Someone died for absolutely no reason. No matter the outcome, no one is going to come out winning here.
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Someone died for absolutely no reason. No matter the outcome, no one is going to come out winning here.
No reason? He was violently attacking the guy. People have died for much less.
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No reason? He was violently attacking the guy. People have died for much less.
His girlfriend said trayvon was talking on the phone to her and it was knocked out of trayvons hand. So I dont think its as cut and dry.
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Because he was a thug who would do something like beat someone up. Did you read his Twitter account? He was a typical angry gangsta-type black youth.

He saw Zimmerman following him and he dealt with that the only way he knew: violence.

"Punk ass cracka gonna follow me, fuck dat I'ma whoop yo ass!" lol
Nice stereotyping and generalizing.

In high school, I dressed in all black, combat boots, long hair kickin', etc. I read (and proudly waved) Anton LaVey's books (The Satanic Bible, The Satanic Rituals, etc.). For Literature, I wrote short stories about serial killers and devil worshippers sacrificing people. Rumors swirled throughout the high school about me sacrificing animals to Satan. I was barely 5'5 and 117lbs, yet people would move out of my way when I walked down the hall.

Guess how many times I was in the principal's office? Once, when my gym teacher bitched that my White Zombie t-shirt said "I went to HELL and all I got was this crappy t-shirt." Guess how shitty my grades were? Honors student, taking college level courses my senior year.

I talked about serial killers, murder, all kinds of kooky shit. Just because he talked shit on his twitter doesn't mean he's going to go "all gangsta on some cracka."
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doesn't mean he's going to go "all gangsta on some cracka."
Yea well, he did, so the image he portrayed online was real. It's like you're surprised some thug kid beat someone up.
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His girlfriend said trayvon was talking on the phone to her and it was knocked out of trayvons hand. So I dont think its as cut and dry.
If that is a fact then Zimmerman was in the wrong and deserved to get his ass whooped.
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Yea well, he did, so the image he portrayed online was real. It's like you're surprised some thug kid beat someone up.
Again, you're basing this on the unknown. If Zimmerman instigated, then Trayvon was acting in self defense. I wouldn't consider that going gangsta or a thug beating someone up.

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If that is a fact then Zimmerman was in the wrong and deserved to get his ass whooped.
The prosecutors played a recording of girlfriend's account on ABC news:

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On March 20, hahahahahaha family attorney, Benjamin Crump revealed that hahahahahaha had been on the phone with a friend moments before he was shot.[167][168] During an ABC News exclusive report, Crump allowed portions of his recorded interview with hahahahahaha's friend to be aired. She said that hahahahahaha told her that a man was watching him from his vehicle while talking on the phone before the man started following hahahahahaha. hahahahahaha told his friend at one point that he had lost the man but the man suddenly appeared again.[167][168][169] The friend said that she told hahahahahaha to run to the townhouse where he was staying with his father and the father's girlfriend.[168] She then heard hahahahahaha say, "What are you following me for?" followed by a man's voice responding, "What are you doing around here?" She said that she heard the sound of pushing before the phone went dead. She immediately attempted to call him back, but was unable to reach him.[170] Crump stated that he would turn the information over to the Justice Department because "the family does not trust the Sanford Police Department to have anything to do with the investigation."[167] hahahahahaha's friend was subsequently interviewed by state prosecutors on April 2, 2012. During her interview with the prosecutor, hahahahahaha's friend recounted her last phone call with hahahahahaha and added that hahahahahaha had described the man as "crazy and creepy," watching him from a vehicle while the man was talking on the phone.[168] hahahahahaha's friend told prosecutors that she heard words like "get off, get off," right before she lost contact with hahahahahaha.[168]
Sadly, no recording of the call itself exists, so even that is speculation. But at least now you've acknowledged that if Zimmerman started it, he deserved to get his ass beat. Two sides....
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George Zimmerman was trying to clean drug dealing thugs like this out of his neighborhood.



A man like George Zimmerman is an asset to any community since most people just retreat to their homes and watch as the neighborhood turns to shit. The minority population gets so high and the crime that comes with that gets so bad that you have to move. Ideally, every block in America would have a George Zimmerman.
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wouldn't you kick his ass if he was about to pull a gun on you?
Well one thing is for sure....... He didn't get his ass kicked after he pulled the gun, the gun ended it. So he must have been being assalted prior to blasting the dude.
That would lean towards self defense in most (non-racial) cases. But, all bets are off when the race card gets played!!! No-one knows how this one is gonna go.
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Zimmerman wasn't some random stalker on the streets following people around, he was working as a neighborhood watchman or whatever it's called and he saw someone that he thought looked like they were up to no good, and when that person started to violently attack him his suspicions were confirmed. Then, in order to save his own life, he decided to use his weapon on the attacker.

People will try to justify Trayvon's attack on Zimmerman because Zimmerman was "following him," but that's not the way the law works, it isn't legal to beat someone up simply because they are walking near you.
What he said
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Why do you think Trayvon would just attack Zimmerman for no rhyme or reason? It's been stated over and over that no one knows for sure who started the physical altercation (well, Zimmerman does, but no one would expect him to come out and say he did, if he did).

I can't prove to you that Zimmerman started it and you can't prove to me that Trayvon attacked Zimmerman completely unprovoked. As I've said over and over, it takes two to tango, and both people were in the wrong in this situation. Yet somehow you fail to acknowledge that and keep defending Zimmerman as the town savior.
The guy that's still alive gets to say his part in court and if there are no other witnesses to dispute it. That's what happened. It takes proof to find a person guilty. (supposedly)
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The guy that's still alive gets to say his part in court and if there are no other witnesses to dispute it. That's what happened. It takes proof to find a person guilty. (supposedly)
What will happen is that the prosecution will likely try to put together a presentation that makes Zimmerman out as a guy who pursued hahahahahaha with the intent to do him harm and that he started the altercation an hahahahahaha was defending himself against Zimmerman. When Zimmerman started losing the fight he shot hahahahahaha.

If you start a fight and start losing that fight you can't just kill someone and claim self defense.

Zimmerman's defense will likely be just the opposite. He will likely say that he was trying to calmly talk to hahahahahaha and hahahahahaha attacked him.

It will come down to who the jury believes.

What Zimmerman has going for him is that that the charges that he has been hit with it are more difficult to prove than other charges they could have gone with. What he has going against him is his past history of violence and so far he has a few incidence of lying to and misleading the court. You can imagine his defense team will fight like hell to not allow his past to be admitted as evidence.
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You can imagine his defense team will fight like hell to not allow his past to be admitted as evidence.
How does it actually work?
If you are jury you would know said past - does not matter if it is allowed as evidence or not. So how come it is a big difference if it is allowed or not? Jury will still know that past... And as you say - it will come down to what version jury believes.
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Trayvon was the one defending himself

Zimmy's just a sore loser and shot him. Typical hood behavior.
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George Zimmerman was trying to clean drug dealing thugs like this out of his neighborhood.



A man like George Zimmerman is an asset to any community since most people just retreat to their homes and watch as the neighborhood turns to shit. The minority population gets so high and the crime that comes with that gets so bad that you have to move. Ideally, every block in America would have a George Zimmerman.
Are you crazy? If an idiot like Zimmerman was in my neighbourhood, I'd move. Trevon was NOT ARMED. Zimmerman had no reason to shoot from everything I've seen on TV so far. Even if a fight did break out between them, Zimmerman could have easy fought back. And if he had to pull a gun, all he had to do was threaten Trevon with it. Zimmerman shot first because he was scared of a black kid, nothing else.
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His girlfriend said trayvon was talking on the phone to her and it was knocked out of trayvons hand. So I dont think its as cut and dry.
Yeah, a girlfriend would never lie.
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