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Old 12-14-2012, 02:36 PM   #51
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It's really mind boggling to hear the arguments made by anyone pro gun. All logic goes out the window for them when this topic comes up.
Pro gun has nothing to do with this.

Lets assume guns are illegal, ok? That does not mean they are not available on the black market. So anyone wanting to preform pre-mediated murder just has to buy a gun illegally and do whatever they want with it. It's that simple and that sad.

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The problem with the whole criminals will get guns eventually. The people shooting up schools, movie theaters arent criminals but people who bought guns legally.
Yes they bought them legally because that is their right protected by the constitution. They don't have the right, however, to use the gun to randomly murder people, we have things against that called "laws." If you break those laws you will go to prison for a very long time or maybe even die.
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Ban illegal usage of guns!

Oh wait, we've already done that. Okay ban pitchforks! I knew a guy a few decades back who skewered his girlfriend to death with one. Something about her not coming home from work on time or something.

No pitchforks!
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Once upon a time, patriots who loved liberty, in other words, ordinary Americans, rose up with firearms against tyrants and threw them off these shores. Ever since, the story has inspired people all around the world. And the first thing the tyrants do is to round up all the guns, so that the government has a monopoly on the tools of violence. I'm really skeptical of the proposition that we are all safer, more free, and happier, when only people with badges have the guns. I think that invites tyranny. I don't think that anyone is safer when the basic means of self-defense that evens the playing field with criminals is taken away from peaceable citizens. I don't think it makes for a reduction in crime for bad people to know with reasonable surety that potential victims are unarmed.

I live in the last American jurisdiction that makes it always illegal for an ordinary citizen to go about armed, in fact it's a felony carrying 1-3 years in prison. Illinois. The other day, the Seventh Circuit declared the law unconstitutional and stayed the mandate for 180 days to give the legislature time to regulate our right to self defense. 180 days from now, I'll be one of the first in line for whatever permit may be required. Sanity finally comes to Illinois.
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Kane slew Abel with an unregistered rock. >;-))

Says the atheist of the crew. hahahahahahaha.
But you get the point.
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man stabs 22 children in china today..
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Ban illegal usage of guns!

Oh wait, we've already done that. Okay ban pitchforks! I knew a guy a few decades back who skewered his girlfriend to death with one. Something about her not coming home from work on time or something.

No pitchforks!
27 people were killed today in car accidents. BAN CARS!

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man stabs 22 children in china today..
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27 people were killed today in car accidents. BAN CARS!



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Comparing USA to China? Hellaw!!!
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Any idea WHAT was the reason that made THAT guy shoot?
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Any idea WHAT was the reason that made THAT guy shoot?
We could write a 1,000 page thread about the possibilities of what causes it...
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:56 PM   #62
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This needs posting every now and again.

"An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject."
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Any idea WHAT was the reason that made THAT guy shoot?
That's easy, he owned a gun, so he was like "hmm, what can I do with this gun? I know, lets go shoot up a kindergarten classroom."

Clearly we need to ban guns.
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Didn't the shooter know that this was a gun free school zone?

Looks like that law really works.

You know what would have worked? The teachers should have all been packing and they would have blown him away before he killed all those kids.
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That's easy, he owned a gun, so he was like "hmm, what can I do with this gun? I know, lets go shoot up a kindergarten classroom."

Clearly we need to ban guns.
Yea, guns have a magic power, they start talking to people telepathically and tell them to do things... we must destroy the evil race of guns before it takes over our civilization...
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Didn't the shooter know that this was a gun free school zone?

Looks like that law really works.

You know what would have worked? The teachers should have all been packing and they would have blown him away before he killed all those kids.
not going to be long till it's demanded.. how many school shootings?
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Why is it the majority of these mass shootings happen in the United States? Don't flame me, I'm just asking a valid question.
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you mean that make the media. take a trip to south america and sit and watch tv it will open your eyes. you are in our region so you get local news.
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Why is it the majority of these mass shootings happen in the United States? Don't flame me, I'm just asking a valid question.
Perhaps the prevalence of mind bending anti depressant drugs her in the US. This is just the terrible cost of having a society that is allowed to be armed. Can't legislate our way out of homicidal crazy people doing homicidal crazy things.
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That's easy, he owned a gun, so he was like "hmm, what can I do with this gun? I know, lets go shoot up a kindergarten classroom."

Clearly we need to ban guns.
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This needs posting every now and again.

"An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject."
good point
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I understand you're old and stupid old man. Did you see the part where I said "majority". Understand?
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I understand you're old and stupid old man. Did you see the part where I said "majority". Understand?
I second that and it made me LOL.
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I understand you're old and stupid old man. Did you see the part where I said "majority". Understand?
It's because there's way more people in the US than most other countries, not to mention very rarely do we hear about news from other countries.

Clearly we need to ban citizenship.
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Gun violence happens all around the world, not just in the United States. You should see what's been going on in Africa lately...
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This has Mk-Ultra written all over it... Too convenient. Right when concealed carry ban is lifted in Illinois
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Gun violence happens all around the world, not just in the United States. You should see what's been going on in Africa lately...
Clearly the only solution is to ban Africa.
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I understand you're old and stupid old man. Did you see the part where I said "majority". Understand?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawson_College_shooting

no in lybia/afghanstan/syria/irak
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Why is it the majority of these mass shootings happen in the United States? Don't flame me, I'm just asking a valid question.
Not sure if the majority of them happen in the US but maybe more than in any other single country. Either way it is definitely not unique to the US.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers
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Let's try this one more time. M-A-J-O-R-I-T-Y.
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This has Mk-Ultra written all over it... Too convenient. Right when concealed carry ban is lifted in Illinois
, you're a fucking nut job.
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radioactive experiments that clinton admitted to years ago?

what are you talking about
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Let's try this one more time. M-A-J-O-R-I-T-Y.
ok, where is you stat study ?


Also what is the price to be a slave, you can suicide ?
Sure it's good to have good stats...
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what are you talking about
He's talking about this:

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Thank god i live in a country where only criminials have guns. Which makes things way more safe than that shithole called the US.
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ok, where is you stat study ?


Also what is the price to be a slave, you can suicide ?
Sure it's good to have good stats...
I don't need a "stat study" show me another first world country that has the same gun violence. Specially when it comes to mass shootings.

Instead of being so defensive maybe you should start looking at the under laying issue.
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Because the USA is being brought down by design.
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Instead of being so defensive maybe you should start looking at the under laying issue.
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I don't need a "stat study" show me another first world country that has the same gun violence. Specially when it comes to mass shootings.

Instead of being so defensive maybe you should start looking at the under laying issue.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/03...il-of-bullets/

france regulates weapons and basically you are usually not allowed to have a real one (for some reason, at least in big cities)...
but who cares, there is a black market for people like that...

And i cant even defend myself, if this country fails to protect me how it should.
I should just wait that someone bothers to do something...
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You can vote to ban anything you want. Doesn't mean people will actually abide by it. There's plenty of 'banned' things you can find easily, in most places in the world.

So sure, vote to ban it. People with guns will say.. ahahahahahaaha you ain't taking my piece. Then you will see more bloodshed because people the law allows to have guns, try to take it away from those who purchased them legally, at one point.
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a single area of France:
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God, you are an imbecile.

Do you have to have an iq of 70 to be pro gun or what?
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, you're a fucking nut job.
and you are a bushwacker
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Old 12-14-2012, 05:43 PM   #98
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Imbecile boy, i have a question.
What situation is more safe.
Out of 1000 people 1 is a criminal with a gun.
Out of 1000 people 1 is a criminal with a gun and 500 people are citizens with a gun.
Think real hard about it with your pea sized brain before you answer.

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Old 12-14-2012, 05:44 PM   #99
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I don't need a "stat study" show me another first world country that has the same gun violence. Specially when it comes to mass shootings.

Instead of being so defensive maybe you should start looking at the under laying issue.
Under laying issue = gangs. Today's tragedy aside, most gun crime in the US is gang related.

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If you took out all gang related gun homicides I bet you the US would be about the same as the rest of the world for gun homicides.
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Old 12-14-2012, 05:44 PM   #100
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and you are a bushwacker
At what point do you actually start to realize you might indeed be a fucking nutjob? Almost every post you make here someone will tell you you are crazy.
Do you think everyone is wrong and you are right?
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