America should ban Guns!

[seeme]

Agree or disagree?

Also I am sick of those few Americans that keep saying they are entitled to own a gun, this is 2012 not 1939!

[Harmon]

You're a fuckin pussy.

[lucas131]

wild west rocks

[AllAboutCams]

people should be allowed guns but under strict laws

[Harmon]

If these corrupt cock suckers in the government, local police departments and the military are going to walk around with fucking guns, you are damn skippy I am going to have one or ten.

"When the ship goes down, you better be ready..."
Cypress Hill

[seeandsee]

Yes for corner selling, no for total ban of selling, but gun lobby is too strong, nothing will change

[Barry-xlovecam]

While we are at it Norway should ban guns ...

Jun 22, 2012 ? Norwegian mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik ...

Maybe we should just ban maniacs ...

[looky_lou]

Outlaw guns? Then only outlaws will have guns!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Minte]

Blame the Chinese. They invented gun powder.

[spazlabz]

I am entitled to own a gun!

Ok, I just had to say that.

While I am one of the most liberal people on this forum I do happen to think that we have the right to firearm ownership. While I do not personally own any for either home defense or for any sporting use that does not mean others should be denied them if they are not a convicted felon or under psychiatric care.

The recent shooting was tragic but even if you outlawed guns those who really wanted them to engage in criminal activity would not have much of a problem getting ahold of one if they tried. There are millions of gun owners in the US who are responsible and law abiding. Why should they be punished for the irrational or criminal behavior of a few?

[looky_lou]

Banning movie theaters in America would be much more effective in preventing another tragedy like yesterdays. I bet that would fly.

[seeme]

Originally Posted by spazlabz

There are millions of gun owners in the US who are responsible and law abiding. Why should they be punished for the irrational or criminal behavior of a few?

Well with the world the way its going, more will be getting irrational very soon!

[Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Flamethrowers

[PornoMonster]

Ban Guns? So Make it Illegal to own / have a gun?

Wow, you figured it out, NOT

Why is someone going to pay attention to this law if they already broke

Took a Gun into a theater -- Might be Illegal and guns are already banned there.
Hey maybe we can have TSA at every Movie entrance.

Killed innocent people -- Kind of a big law, can get Death in some states for doing it, but the NUT didn't care about that law either. So yes, I am thinking a Gun Ban will work. NOT

Hey bad guys, come turn your guns in ... They are lining up already..

This Nut had his apartment booby trapped with lots of different things. If Guns were never invented, this nut would of used the Jokers Green gas bomb or something.

It is the Crazy People ...

[CamTraffic]

[OldJeff]

Originally Posted by XYZTraffic

Agree or disagree?

Also I am sick of those few Americans that keep saying they are entitled to own a gun, this is 2012 not 1939!

I am sick of people that are not citizens of the US feeling that their opinion on US law means fuck all.

[spazlabz]

Originally Posted by XYZTraffic

Well with the world the way its going, more will be getting irrational very soon!

You're right! I should go get my glock and ammo now while it's still available

[nextri]

Ideally yes. But it wouldn't be practical given how many guns are already on the market. I live in a country where guns are banned, where not even the cops carry guns. And like CamTraffic quoted from Matthey Chapman. Not having guns floating around gives you a freedom from fear. People don't go around being afraid that perhaps around the next corner some nutjob is waiting with a gun.

[MaDalton]

i'm afraid it's not the guns, it's the attitude..

CZ does have similar gun laws as the US but hardly anyone has one and the crime rates are way lower.

they're busy drinking beer and fucking - no need to shoot anyone ;)

[DWB]

Originally Posted by XYZTraffic

Agree or disagree?

Also I am sick of those few Americans that keep saying they are entitled to own a gun, this is 2012 not 1939!

No, and here is why:

1) Banning guns does not take them away from criminals, which is exactly why you should be allowed to have one.

2) Guns are not the problem, people are. People are violent / crazy and will use anything at their disposal. I live in a country where guns are difficult to legally obtain. What do the locals do? They build their own one shot guns, they buy expensive 2nd hand guns illegally, and they stab the shit out of people and beat them with clubs. In fact, I've never seen a country where so many people get stabbed. They get stabbed because it is very expensive to get a gun and most people can't afford one.

I'm all for making it more difficult to get one, but that still doesn't stop a loon or a criminal from getting one.

The thing about guns is, they ALL have to be banned and taken away in order for a ban to work. That includes police and the military, who I may add is the #1 supplier of illegal guns to many countries. But if they could somehow dispose of ALL guns in the world, I would support that 110%.

Truth be told, if I want to kill you, there are lots of ways to do it. I could silently shoot 10+ people with a compound bow from the back row of a movie theater before anyone even knew what was going on. Crazy people are crazy and are going to use whatever weapon they have at their disposal.

I think the question to ask is, why do these people snap? Not should we ban guns.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

i'm afraid it's not the guns, it's the attitude..

CZ does have similar gun laws as the US but hardly anyone has one and the crime rates are way lower.

they're busy drinking beer and fucking - no need to shoot anyone ;)

Lack of stress probably. Americans seem to be pretty wound up. Not to mention Americans have a perverse attraction to gun / cowboy / gang culture.

[Viewfinder]

Originally Posted by looky_lou

Banning movie theaters in America would be much more effective in preventing another tragedy like yesterdays. I bet that would fly.

I agree...all those people sitting helplessly in a dark room. Too damn tempting for the local psychopath.

[helterskelter808]

Ban on guns = 30,000 more Americans in the world every year. Rest Of The World, are you sure you still want the USA to ban guns?

[fris]

Originally Posted by XYZTraffic

Agree or disagree?

Also I am sick of those few Americans that keep saying they are entitled to own a gun, this is 2012 not 1939!

left you msgs

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

Ban on guns = 30,000 more Americans in the world every year. Rest Of The World, are you sure you still want the USA to ban guns?

good math .... not including reproduction .

[Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by DWB

No, and here is why:

1) Banning guns does not take them away from criminals, which is exactly why you should be allowed to have one.

2) Guns are not the problem, people are. People are violent / crazy and will use anything at their disposal. I live in a country where guns are difficult to legally obtain. What do the locals do? They build their own one shot guns, they buy expensive 2nd hand guns illegally, and they stab the shit out of people and beat them with clubs. In fact, I've never seen a country where so many people get stabbed. They get stabbed because it is very expensive to get a gun and most people can't afford one.

I'm all for making it more difficult to get one, but that still doesn't stop a loon or a criminal from getting one.

The thing about guns is, they ALL have to be banned and taken away in order for a ban to work. That includes police and the military, who I may add is the #1 supplier of illegal guns to many countries. But if they could somehow dispose of ALL guns in the world, I would support that 110%.

Truth be told, if I want to kill you, there are lots of ways to do it. I could silently shoot 10+ people with a compound bow from the back row of a movie theater before anyone even knew what was going on. Crazy people are crazy and are going to use whatever weapon they have at their disposal.

I think the question to ask is, why do these people snap? Not should we ban guns.

Scotland, and i'd hear the swoosh.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by Terrorist

Scotland, and i'd hear the swoosh.

What's up with Scotland? They have a compound bow killer?

[raymor]

That's been tried and this is a perfect example of the result.

There were about 250 people in the theatre. 2.7% of Colorado residents are licensed to carry, so there were about 7 people licensed and trained who could have put a stop to the attack, if not for the fact that Colorado banned guns in movie theatres. As he walked up the aisle, he turned his back on seven law abiding citizens who had to leave their pistols in their cars, so a half a dozen of the deaths are a direct result of the ban.

The psycho stopped to RELOAD. As he did, seven licensed, trained citizens watched in horror, their pistols out in there cars because of the theatre ban. If you supported bans, their blood is on your hands.






Colorado banned guns in movie theatres and schools. They then had mass shootings in ... movie theatres and schools.

There has never, in the history of the world, been a mass shooting at a gun range, where everybody is able to protect themselves and those around them.

[gfydrama]

Originally Posted by XYZTraffic

Agree or disagree?

Also I am sick of those few Americans that keep saying they are entitled to own a gun, this is 2012 not 1939!

Go open a corner store to support your family and have your wife and kids working with
you in the store.

After one year you will wonder how you could think like you do.



Guns are illegal in New York city!

Here are the FACTS :

silive.com/news/index.ssf/2009/04/as_gun_deaths_decline_in_new_y.html

NEW YORK (AP) -- Gun homicides were down last year in New York City. But according to a report published in the New York Times, authorities say the number of killings committed with knives or other "cutting instruments" rose 50 percent. New York Police Department spokesman Paul Browne theorizes that authorities have made it harder for killers to get their hands on guns. But it's easy to legally acquire knives.

The city had 125 stabbing or slashing deaths last year. In 2007, there were 83. More people still died because of guns, even though that number declined. In 2008, 292 people were shot to death in New York. That's down from 347 the year before. Overall, homicides rose slightly. There were 523 last year, up from 496 in 2007.

But go ahead and keep believing in your child like fear of reality and that the government
is going to protect you with a law.

Haters gonna hate and killers gonna kill.

Murders in America are cause by :

- greed (drug trade, life insurance fraud, robbery etc..)
- over blown ego (can't take rejection)
- jealousy
- selfishness
- inability to cope
- racial hatred
- lack of respect for each other
- sexual hate crimes against females and children
- anger at the world (I'm the victim of everything)
- last but not least : "Wanna be bad"

Fix that shit!

Getting rid of guns/knifes/explosives/hammers is not going to stop strangulation and beating deaths of females and children.

[josephfgb]

Originally Posted by raymor

There were about 250 people in the theatre. 2.7% of Colorado residents are licensed to carry, so there were about 7 people licensed and trained who could have put a stop to the attack, if not for the fact that Colorado banned guns in movie theatres. As he walked up the aisle, he turned his back on seven law abiding citizens who had to leave their pistols in their cars, so a dozen of the deaths are a direct result of the ban.

My wife and I had this same discussion last night. I carry a handgun every day. Sometimes I open carry and sometimes conceal carry, depending on what I'm doing that day. I am a firm believer that guns are not the problem. Criminals are going to get guns regardless if there's a ban on them or not. And I believe that if someone wants to kill people, they're going to kill people with or without guns, they will find a way.

It's a tragedy what happened in the movie theater, but I agree with raymor. I know a lot of licensed gun carriers aren't military trained (or any REAL formal training for that matter. However, some are required to per state law), but if there would have been even two armed citizens in that theater, the outcome could have been changed dramatically.

Luckily for me, the state in which I live allows me to exercise my rights freely in most places. I very rarely enter a place where I am forced to disarm by law (the "no guns allowed" signs on doors of businesses really have no merit with the law in my state. The owner can ask you to leave, and if you don't, then there's a trespassing issue). I wouldn't consider myself excessively paranoid, but I do have a strong urge to protect both my family and I.

[Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by DWB

What's up with Scotland? They have a compound bow killer?

Fellow stabbers, big time.

[gfydrama]

Originally Posted by raymor

There has never, in the history of the world, been a mass shooting at a gun range, where everybody is able to protect themselves and those around them.

So fucking true that it's hilarious!

[Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by josephfgb

My wife and I had this same discussion last night. I carry a handgun every day. Sometimes I open carry and sometimes conceal carry, depending on what I'm doing that day. I am a firm believer that guns are not the problem. Criminals are going to get guns regardless if there's a ban on them or not. And I believe that if someone wants to kill people, they're going to kill people with or without guns, they will find a way.

It's a tragedy what happened in the movie theater, but I agree with raymor. I know a lot of licensed gun carriers aren't military trained (or any REAL formal training for that matter. However, some are required to per state law), but if there would have been even two armed citizens in that theater, the outcome could have been changed dramatically.

Luckily for me, the state in which I live allows me to exercise my rights freely in most places. I very rarely enter a place where I am forced to disarm by law (the "no guns allowed" signs on doors of businesses really have no merit with the law in my state. The owner can ask you to leave, and if you don't, then there's a trespassing issue). I wouldn't consider myself excessively paranoid, but I do have a strong urge to protect both my family and I.

It is comforting you type in an educated manner.

[Hank_Heartland]

Originally Posted by gfydrama

Go open a corner store to support your family and have your wife and kids working with
you in the store.

After one year you will wonder how you could think like you do.



Guns are illegal in New York city!

Here are the FACTS :

silive.com/news/index.ssf/2009/04/as_gun_deaths_decline_in_new_y.html


But go ahead and keep believing in your child like fear of reality and that the government
is going to protect you with a law.

Haters gonna hate and killers gonna kill.

Murders in America are cause by :

- greed (drug trade, life insurance fraud, robbery etc..)
- over blown ego (can't take rejection)
- jealousy
- selfishness
- inability to cope
- racial hatred
- lack of respect for each other
- sexual hate crimes against females and children
- anger at the world (I'm the victim of everything)
- last but not least : "Wanna be bad"

Fix that shit!

Getting rid of guns/knifes/explosives/hammers is not going to stop strangulation and beating deaths of females and children.

You're right...America should ban people instead

[just a punk]

I didn't vote because I'm not an American. But if I were, I'd vote for total ban of guns there.

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by raymor

There has never, in the history of the world, been a mass shooting at a gun range, where everybody is able to protect themselves and those around them.

Ah yes, gun ranges. Second only to Trappist Monasteries for peace and tranquillity.

Mom kills son, then self at shooting range

Missouri Couple Found Dead in Alleged Shooting Range Murder-Suicide

Man found dead at shooting range

Florida man commits suicide at gun range, wife found dead at home

Man found shot in the head at shooting range

[k0nr4d]

All you gun supporters who think that violent crime woudl go up etc if guns were banned - look at european countries. In PL it's pretty hard to be able to buy a firearm, and people getting shot here are few and far in between.

[u-Bob]

"Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest."~Gandhi

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by XYZTraffic

Agree or disagree?

Also I am sick of those few Americans that keep saying they are entitled to own a gun, this is 2012 not 1939!

good point because some dipshit webmaster in euro should tell americans how to live

[Sly]

If you Europeans want to learn and understand why Americans love guns, all you need to do is read about American history. If you still don't understand after that, you may not be as intelligent and compassionate as you think you are. ;-)

Several hundred years of a belief system does not disappear overnight.

[brassmonkey]

never going to happen Second Amendment to the United States Constitution and some that voted are not even citizens

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by raymor

That's been tried and this is a perfect example of the result.

There were about 250 people in the theatre. 2.7% of Colorado residents are licensed to carry, so there were about 7 people licensed and trained who could have put a stop to the attack, if not for the fact that Colorado banned guns in movie theatres. As he walked up the aisle, he turned his back on seven law abiding citizens who had to leave their pistols in their cars, so a half a dozen of the deaths are a direct result of the ban.

The psycho stopped to RELOAD. As he did, seven licensed, trained citizens watched in horror, their pistols out in there cars because of the theatre ban. If you supported bans, their blood is on your hands.






Colorado banned guns in movie theatres and schools. They then had mass shootings in ... movie theatres and schools.

There has never, in the history of the world, been a mass shooting at a gun range, where everybody is able to protect themselves and those around them.

exactly

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by Sly

If you Europeans want to learn and understand why Americans love guns, all you need to do is read about American history.

Most Europeans do. Actually many Europeans know more about American history than Americans. Not sure where you get the idea that we don't understand the gun culture.
All we are saying that it's completely retarded. Then again most people don't really care about retarded Americans. We just laugh at them

[Dirty F]

And

1:It's way too late to ban guns in America. You can't just do that now. It won't work.
2: Americans need more guns. To shoot eachother. Basically that's the best solution for everybody.

[DudeRick]

Saying that banning guns would stop killings is like saying that banning pencils would stop bad spelling.

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

exactly

Yup, exactly. What the situation really needed was 10 cowboys who also started shooting.
That would've made my day.

[Dirty F]

Because we all know that when 50 people in a room with a gun is way more safe than 1 person in a room with a gun...right, Americans?

[gfydrama]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

All you gun supporters who think that violent crime woudl go up etc if guns were banned - look at european countries. In PL it's pretty hard to be able to buy a firearm, and people getting shot here are few and far in between.

What you don't understand is that America would still be part of the British empire
being taxed without representation as a 3rd world colony if American citizens didn't
have guns to rise up and overthrow the British.

America was founded with guns, we can't go back to some shit that never existed.

You have always been stripped of your individual power in Europe where you were ruled by kings based on their blood line.
You are conditioned to be subservient weaklings.

Hitler would have ran you people over if it were not for Russia and America.
But you fail to see how America became powerful enough to save you.

You remained under the power of your overlords yet you can't figure out why.

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by gfydrama

What you don't understand is that America would still be part of the British empire
being taxed without representation as a 3rd world colony if American citizens didn't
have guns to rise up and overthrow the British.

America was founded with guns, we can't go back to some shit that never existed.

You have always been stripped of your individual power in Europe where you were ruled by kings based on their blood line.
You are conditioned to be subservient weaklings.

Hitler would have ran you people over if it were not for Russia and America.
But you fail to see how America became powerful enough to save you.

You remained under the power of your overlords yet you can't figure out why.

Cars, spoons, swimmingpools and ww2 - the gun nuts' defense. Ever wonder why the rest of the world think you are imbeciles. Think about it for a minute, real hard.

[xXXtesy10]

Ban cars.... Ban alcohol... Etc..a