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Old 12-22-2012, 01:45 AM   #1
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Do you fast?

At 43 I'm starting to find that I dont want to eat EVERY day any more. At about 40, I started NOT eating, and just drinking water, once a month - Usually on the 1st...

These days I seem to fast for at east one day a week, if not 2 days.


I feel SO MUCH BETTER for it - You?
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you should drink a lot of water... everyday, even if you don't want to.
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That goes without saying - But I mean NOT having the recommended 2000 / 2500 calories from food as well...
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I think I need to eat everyday. Kinda goes along with breathing. Water is good too.
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You don't.
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I think I need to eat everyday. Kinda goes along with breathing. Water is good too.
But how old are you ? Up until 40, I'd have agreed - Now, 3 years + later, I dont...
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I very often do moon diet,which is basically just drinking water/tea/anything without sugar entire period of lunar eclipse which is 24 hours period.I am on that for last 10 years.For losing weight is not realy effective unless you go extreme but it is good for cleaning the crap out of your system,and also giving break to your stomach.
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I very often do moon diet,which is basically just drinking water/tea/anything without sugar entire period of lunar eclipse which is 24 hours period.I am on that for last 10 years.For losing weight is not realy effective unless you go extreme but it is good for cleaning the crap out of your system,and also giving break to your stomach.
Thats exactly what I mean - I dont mean 'To Lose Weight'... - I just mean to feel better
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I'd feel so faint by halfway though the afternoon i'd have to eat something before I dropped dead.
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Again - Key point is your age... Over / Under 40?
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You should try juicing or green smoothies a few times a week. Not for weight loss, but just to feel better. The right mix can give you tons of energy, sleep better, and make your poop come out cleaner and easier, which I know is important to you.
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Again - Key point is your age... Over / Under 40?
38 and slim. Not carrying any spare to use up while fasting probably will have more effect than age.
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You're grossly overweight. You obviously eat horribly. Has it occurred to you that not eating like a fat kid at an eating contest once a week is what makes you feel better? You sincerely don't believe that a day of fruit and salad wouldn't have the same effect?
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You're grossly overweight. You obviously eat horribly. Has it occurred to you that not eating like a fat kid at an eating contest once a week is what makes you feel better? You sincerely don't believe that a day of fruit and salad wouldn't have the same effect?
i'm NOT overweight!

I'm 'Big Boned' !
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sometimes i wonder if its really him in his avatar or just some guys pics that he uses.
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You should try juicing or green smoothies a few times a week. Not for weight loss, but just to feel better. The right mix can give you tons of energy, sleep better, and make your poop come out cleaner and easier, which I know is important to you.
We juice at least 6 times a week; combined with the sprouted grain cereal w/yogurt I have every morning, I really do not feel the need to "fast." I may forget to eat, but it is never with the intention of fasting.
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If Im working lots I may skip a meal or two, so I skip about a meal a day average
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That's probably not healthy for you, once a month might be good, but more often than that probably does more damage than good ... at least what I've heard.
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your 43 years old and 10,000+ posts have been "i like poo?"

no offence to you but thats really pathetic.
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At 43 I'm starting to find that I dont want to eat EVERY day any more. At about 40, I started NOT eating, and just drinking water, once a month - Usually on the 1st...

These days I seem to fast for at east one day a week, if not 2 days.


I feel SO MUCH BETTER for it - You?
Yup I do every spring for 3 weeks and feel like awesome after.
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No, but at 45, I do pay much more attention to what I consume now.
I do a lot of veggie smoothies and I am feeling a lot healthier lately, much more bright eyed and bushy tailed anymore.
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your 43 years old and 10,000+ posts have been "i like poo?"

no offence to you but thats really pathetic.
No, (and no offence to you) what is REALLY PATHETIC is you coming into a serious thread I have made, and start mentioning poo, (which I have NOT) in order to 'show off' and try to derail it...

Thats pathetic...
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At 43 I'm starting to find that I dont want to eat EVERY day any more. At about 40, I started NOT eating, and just drinking water, once a month - Usually on the 1st...

These days I seem to fast for at east one day a week, if not 2 days.


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Fasting is for fools and religious zealots!

Very, very unhealthy thing to do! Another word for fasting is fucking STARVATION!

http://www.livestrong.com/article/44...rs-of-fasting/

"Fasting has been around for thousands of years. It has been used to cleanse the body, lose weight and as part of religious ceremonies. In modern times, it is often used for weight loss alone. While short-term fasting for a day or so will not usually cause harm, your body will react by slowing the metabolism and, eventually, turning to muscle for nutrients. Prolonged fasting can be harmful to your body. Consult a doctor before beginning any type of fast."

Dangers of fasting:

http://www.sheknows.com/health-and-w...ng-and-detoxes

This link is exceptional!:

http://www.ncahf.org/articles/e-i/fasting.html

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"Except for the brain, which consumes more calories than any other organ and has a constant need for glucose whether one is asleep or awake, one's metabolic rate varies with physical activity and by day and nightime effects. The body's ongoing need for nutrition is met by stores in the cells and liver, circulating blood, and gastrointestinal contents. Fasting causes blood sugar to drop. This leads to a breakdown (catabolism) of muscle and other protein tissue for energy. During fasting, catabolism is a kind of "self-cannibalism" the by-products of which (ammonia and urea) lead to acidosis that produces weakness, fatigue, irritability, depression, depressed libido, and a sick feeling. Fasting does not cleanse the system, but loads it with metabolic toxins while decreasing its ability to destroy and excrete these. Fasting leads to rapid loss of water, sodium, and potassium. This decreases blood volume which produces postural hypotension (low blood pressure when standing up), and fainting. Severe potassium depletion can cause a fatal heart rhythm disturbance. The body cannot differentiate between voluntary fasting and starvation and deaths have occurred even with medically supervised fasts and near-fasts. People who survive prolonged fasts (starvation) may suffer anemia, decreased immunity, osteoporosis, kidney damage, or liver damage. Depressed gastrointestinal or digestive functions may persist for weeks or months [v]. The worst thing about fasting is its destruction of lean and vital tissue needed for a healthy and active life. Fasting, like colonic irrigation, laxatives, sweat baths, and other naturopathic regimes are at best useless, and at worst, can be fatal. Fasting is particularly dangerous for children."

Fasting is for fools and idiots!

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Fasting is for fools and religious zealots!

Very, very unhealthy thing to do! Another word for fasting is fucking STARVATION!

http://www.livestrong.com/article/44...rs-of-fasting/

"Fasting has been around for thousands of years. It has been used to cleanse the body, lose weight and as part of religious ceremonies. In modern times, it is often used for weight loss alone. While short-term fasting for a day or so will not usually cause harm, your body will react by slowing the metabolism and, eventually, turning to muscle for nutrients. Prolonged fasting can be harmful to your body. Consult a doctor before beginning any type of fast."

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http://www.ncahf.org/articles/e-i/fasting.html

This from the citation:

"Except for the brain, which consumes more calories than any other organ and has a constant need for glucose whether one is asleep or awake, one's metabolic rate varies with physical activity and by day and nightime effects. The body's ongoing need for nutrition is met by stores in the cells and liver, circulating blood, and gastrointestinal contents. Fasting causes blood sugar to drop. This leads to a breakdown (catabolism) of muscle and other protein tissue for energy. During fasting, catabolism is a kind of "self-cannibalism" the by-products of which (ammonia and urea) lead to acidosis that produces weakness, fatigue, irritability, depression, depressed libido, and a sick feeling. Fasting does not cleanse the system, but loads it with metabolic toxins while decreasing its ability to destroy and excrete these. Fasting leads to rapid loss of water, sodium, and potassium. This decreases blood volume which produces postural hypotension (low blood pressure when standing up), and fainting. Severe potassium depletion can cause a fatal heart rhythm disturbance. The body cannot differentiate between voluntary fasting and starvation and deaths have occurred even with medically supervised fasts and near-fasts. People who survive prolonged fasts (starvation) may suffer anemia, decreased immunity, osteoporosis, kidney damage, or liver damage. Depressed gastrointestinal or digestive functions may persist for weeks or months [v]. The worst thing about fasting is its destruction of lean and vital tissue needed for a healthy and active life. Fasting, like colonic irrigation, laxatives, sweat baths, and other naturopathic regimes are at best useless, and at worst, can be fatal. Fasting is particularly dangerous for children."

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Old 12-22-2012, 10:29 PM   #49
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I recently did a water fast (no food or juice, just water) for a week. First few days you feel hungry but towards the end you adapt. Fasting also causes the body to detox, so if it is the first time fasting you will probably feel like crap. I'm going to see about doing it for longer than a week come New Years. I'm thinking it should be much easier the 2nd time around if I don't have to detox as much.

I lost about 10 lbs in 7 days but most of it was water weight and I regained most of that back in about 2 weeks. I have seen statistics on 30 day fasts and the body burns about half a pound of fat a day consistently starting from about the 3rd day. Loss from water weight slows down after the first week.

A lot of the above information about fasting is wrong or misleading. Studies have shown increased mental and physical capacity when the body is operating in a ketogenic state. Extended duration fasting is the simplest and easiest way to enter a ketogenic state. That is to say, the body is burning fat (which gets converted to ketones) as its primary fuel source. Without going into too much detail, the reason is that fat gets burned at an even rate as the body needs energy. Most diets are high carb and result is spikes of blood sugar and insulin. Insulin is necessary but the excessive amounts which are common in modern society have devastating effects.

Fasting causes the body to go into a ketogenic state, but until it goes through ketoadaptation, the body will experience the effects described in some of the above links (headaches, nausea, etc). These are normal and go away. An easier way to ease into fasting is to ketoadapt before fasting. This is accomplished by eating a diet low in carbs, low in protein, and high in fat. The reason for keeping protein low as well is because proteins can get converted to glucose through a process known as gluconeogenesis. As long as glucose is present the brain and other organs will not adapt to using ketones and this causes the negative symptoms described above. Once ketoadaption takes place the need for gluconeogenesis (which results in consuming muscle and body tissue for energy) drops off.

Caloric restriction has been scientifically proven to reduce aging and extend life expectancy. As far as how far you can go is not certain but one study showed at 30% restriction resulted in a 30% longer life span in rats. The reason is because lower calories means less food is converted into energy, and energy production is one of the primary ways free radicals get created. Reduce free radicals and you age less.

I haven't found much information on fasting yet, I am currently experimenting with it to learn more about it. However, a lot of the knowledge of what fasting does to the body can be understood by reading about ketogenic diets. I recommend the book "The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Living" if you are interested in learning about how the body works under different nutritional inputs. If you want to lose weight and maintain health you want to see about weight training. I highly recommend the book "Body by Science" for that. It is one of the most technical but still readable without a biochemistry background.

Some links on fasting you might find interesting:

http://healthcorrelator.blogspot.com...s-fat-and.html

http://www.falconblanco.com/health/fasting.htm

For weight loss and ketogenic diets I recommend the 2 books mentioned above. This link will provide the basics:
http://www.ketogenic-diet-resource.c...s-program.html

I'll keep you posted if I manage to keep with it for longer than a week and what the results are.
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I've read that the occasional fast is actually quite good for the body.
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