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iwantchixx · 02-22-2013, 10:50 AM

The box of tissues must have done the trick. With that, I'm out. Gotta go for a road-trip in my 140hp gas guzzler.

dyna mo · 02-22-2013, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by iwantchixx

Wow.

So.. you discuss a subject posted, people discuss your comments, and because not everyone agrees with you, you throw a hissy?

You should have started your replies with this instead:
"if you don't agree with me, I want you to take no part in discussion because you need to assume I know what im talking about"

Fucking baby. Seriously. Whine whine whine. Sniff sniff

Want a fucking tissue?

wtf are you droning on about? again, you took my post out of context so you can show that you think you know something about cars.

dyna mo · 02-22-2013, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by iwantchixx

The box of tissues must have done the trick.

yeah, your mom used them to wipe my splooge off her chin.

dyna mo · 02-22-2013, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by iwantchixx

That's not an engine in it though.

You're also not factoring in how much energy those batteries are taking from charging stations. It's no more efficient than their 35mpg gas model in terms of energy consumption. It just stores more energy than a gas vehicle could, thus goes further.

That's why there's not millions of electric vehicles on the road. It's not any more cost effective. There's been lawsuits against honda and chev already for false claims of being cheaper.

what's the energy efficiency of the xl1?

where is the data showing the fit ev = energy efficiency of the fit?

MaDalton · 02-22-2013, 11:04 AM

the problem with 100% electric cars is how the energy is produced. Is it from wind or solar? that's fine.

But when you burn coal or oil to produce energy, the electric car is as dirty as any other car.

dyna mo · 02-22-2013, 11:05 AM

nothing on google claiming the fit electric, while rated at 118 combined, actually gets 35mpg

https://www.google.com/search?q=2013...=1920&bih=1099

MaDalton · 02-22-2013, 11:05 AM

someone should finally invent an engine that runs on regular water ;)

dyna mo · 02-22-2013, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by iwantchixx

That's not an engine in it though.

wtf is powering it then, a fucking unicorn?

lucas131 · 02-22-2013, 11:19 AM

oh the geneva auto show is in one week, think i have plan for the days then

femdomdestiny · 02-22-2013, 11:19 AM

This reminds me on General motors EV-1

dyna mo · 02-22-2013, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

someone should finally invent an engine that runs on regular water ;)

did you ever see this? i think it's been officially proven as bullshit since though, but it was officially reported.

oh, and before i get *schooled* on the laws of thermodynamics, i never believed this was real/

MaDalton · 02-22-2013, 11:29 AM

yeah, every 20 years some inventor pops up and claims he has invented the water powered engine but for some reason he has to hide how it exactly works...

slapass · 02-22-2013, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

what's the energy efficiency of the xl1?

where is the data showing the fit ev = energy efficiency of the fit?

118 MPG combined rating - http://automobiles.honda.com/fit-ev/

dyna mo · 02-22-2013, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass

118 MPG combined rating - http://automobiles.honda.com/fit-ev/

thanks for the link.

it looks like the online car community is in agreement that the fit electric gets 118 combined, i guess i have to assume the other poster is somehow calculating build cost into the mpg to derive the 35mpg, but i can't seem to find anything on that.

Choopa Phil · 02-22-2013, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by iwantchixx

Really man?

Many people seem to forget that most foreign 3/4-bangers produced between 75-100hp for many years before the engines became more powerful to appeal to North American's thirst for power in a smaller car. Take for example the 95 civic. 75 hp. And it was not a rolling road hazard. Most common people don't do 0-60 in 4 seconds.. 10-12 is fine for normal driving. Even my 91 golf had less power than that and kept up with on-ramp traffic no problem.

Yea, really man... in 95 the civic CX was amoung cars barely peeking through the 200HP range so youre already around a bunch of slow cars to begin with. Do you see many of them on the road now? And now civics come with, what 160-200hp? and how many cars really go 0-60 in 12 seconds in this day and age vs ones that go 2-3x as fast? Its dangerous...its like taking a slow driving old person and slapping them dead in the middle of a highway This might be good to putt putt around town in 35mph zones but for where I live this thing would be run off the road in a matter of seconds

dyna mo · 02-22-2013, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

yeah, every 20 years some inventor pops up and claims he has invented the water powered engine but for some reason he has to hide how it exactly works...

it gets nuttier!

http://dawn.com/2012/07/27/govt-to-s...-cabinet-body/

mineistaken · 02-22-2013, 12:02 PM

I will ask once again? Is that 0.9L/100km is fake number? I mean is it achieved with the help of electric battery?
If so this is false advertising as there are already many 0.000000000000000000000L/100km cars, which is achieved with a help of electric battery.

mineistaken · 02-22-2013, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

oh, lol, the 1 liter refers to efficiency! you dang euros.

Actually its the other way around, Americans made it backwards once again.

If we show efficiency in this way 8L/100km we can easily calculate how much petrol we would need. For instance if we go to 350km trip we instantly know we will need 28L of petrol.

With mpg its the other way around - you instantly know how many miles you would go with said amount of gallons. And you should instantly know the opposite - how many gallons you would need for your trip.
American way is backwards.

OnCapitalHill · 02-22-2013, 12:09 PM

Price aside, the fact that we're finally making these leaps in performance is...well, it gives me hope.

MaDalton · 02-22-2013, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil

Yea, really man... in 95 the civic CX was amoung cars barely peeking through the 200HP range so youre already around a bunch of slow cars to begin with. Do you see many of them on the road now? And now civics come with, what 160-200hp? and how many cars really go 0-60 in 12 seconds in this day and age vs ones that go 2-3x as fast? Its dangerous...its like taking a slow driving old person and slapping them dead in the middle of a highway This might be good to putt putt around town in 35mph zones but for where I live this thing would be run off the road in a matter of seconds

yaaaawwwwwnnnnnnn.....

dyna mo · 02-22-2013, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

Actually its the other way around, Americans made it stupid once again.

If we show efficiency in this way 8L/100km we can easily calculate how much petrol we would need. For instance if we go to 350km trip we instantly know we will need 28L of petrol.

With mpg its the other way around - you instantly know how many miles you would go with said amount of gallons. And you should instantly know the opposite - how many gallons you would need for your trip.

eh? i was simply acknowledging that i am out of the loop on 1 liter speak.

and no, americans didn't make it stupid. when i get in my car to go to point a, i need to know if i will get there or not, not how much fuel i will use getting there.

moreover, are you assuming we invented the mpg rating and made the world use it?

mineistaken · 02-22-2013, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

and no, americans didn't make it stupid. when i get in my car to go to point a, i need to know if i will get there or not, not how much fuel i will use getting there.

Hmm, with L/100km you know that as well. Lets say you have 8L/100km and you have 20L in your tank. You need to go 300km. So you instantly know that with your 20L you won't make 300km.
If you have 30L in your tank you instantly know that you will make it.

And then on top of that the main benefit - you also know how much extra fuel do you need.

So you have 20L in your tank and you need 300km.
You know that you won't make it and you know that you need extra 4L to make that. 2 in 1. And with simple calculations.
With mpg it takes longer to figure these 2 things.
So mpg is less effective and backwards way of displaying efficiency.

MaDalton · 02-22-2013, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

I will ask once again? Is that 0.9L/100km is fake number? I mean is it achieved with the help of electric battery?
If so this is false advertising as there are already many 0.000000000000000000000L/100km cars, which is achieved with a help of electric battery.

i read it's measured in the same cycle as any other car

and i also read it helps bringing down the average fuel consumption of the whole VW fleet - so it's not just for showing off...

dyna mo · 02-22-2013, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

Hmm, with L/100km you know that as well. Lets say you have 8L/100km and you have 20L in your tank. You need to go 300km. So you instantly know that with your 20L you won't make 300km.
If you have 30L in your tank you instantly know that you will make it.

And then on top of that the main benefit - you also know how much extra fuel do you need.

So you have 20L in your tank and you need 300km.
You know that you won't make it and you know that you need extra 4L to make that. 2 in 1. And with simple calculations.
With mpg it takes longer to figure these 2 things.
So mpg is less effective and backwards way of displaying efficiency.

i didn't disagree with this, it is an accurate way of displaying efficiency, but not for whether or not i'm going to make my trip. maybe i am just accustomed to sorting it out easily based on mpg, but that just shows that it is still very easy to figure out on the fly.

i.e., i need to go 200 miles, i get 20 mpg, i need 10 gallons. done.

Vendzilla · 02-22-2013, 12:28 PM

I have a 45 mpg Pick up for sale 1980 VW Diesel Pickup, runs good, too small for me

johnnyloadproductions · 02-22-2013, 12:32 PM

I'll stick with my 110 mpg scooter in the mean time. Yeah, everything that gets really good mpg is Diesel based, if you understand the carnot cycle it makes sense with the much higher compression.

mineistaken · 02-22-2013, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

i didn't disagree with this, it is an accurate way of displaying efficiency, but not for whether or not i'm going to make my trip. maybe i am just accustomed to sorting it out easily based on mpg, but that just shows that it is still very easy to figure out on the fly.

i.e., i need to go 200 miles, i get 20 mpg, i need 10 gallons. done.

What if you need 350miles and you have 25mpg?

Let alone numbers like for instance 27mpg and 330miles.

And same thing with L/100km.
If you need 200km and have 10L/100km you just get 20L. done

You have 7L/100km you get 14L and done.

dyna mo · 02-22-2013, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

What if you need 350miles and you have 25mpg?

Let alone numbers like for instance 27mpg and 330miles.

And same thing with L/100km.
If you need 200km and have 10L/100km you just get 20L. done

wouldn't the same apply to your formula?

how would you bypass those specifics with your method?

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