Liberals are going crazy on gun control

[Vendzilla]

Never mind Obama gave guns to Mexico's drug cartel that they want to take away from Legal Gun Owners in the US, check this shit out!!!

Mexico to ask US for list of gun owners

http://communities.washingtontimes.c...istry-us-guns/


Washington state wants to ban sales assault weapons.

To show how little people that are against guns know about them, it's a Magazine, not a clip page 3, line 9

They are pretty broad about what an assault weapon is, even a 9mm pistol with a 15 round clip is an assault weapon?

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/documents/bil...Bills/5737.pdf

then finally there is this idiot that thinks we should wait till they go to reload and then attack the shooters with ballpoint pens?






keep our guns to protect us from these idiots

[_Richard_]

if the entire country sells weapons to the planet.. why in the world are you talking about gun regulation?

[Verbal]

Shouldn't you be jerking off to Fox News about now?

[BigChad]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

if the entire country sells weapons to the planet.. why in the world are you talking about gun regulation?

[stinkyfingers]

seems perfectly normal

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Mexico to ask US for list of gun owners

let's trade him for a list of 'coyotes and border crossings' or maybe about 12 billion dollars for supporting his citizens...

[Lester Burnham]

I'm a Dem.

I voted for Obama.

I have a small arsenal at home (e.g., an FN SCAR-L, FN 5.7, Walther PPS, Ed Brown Kobra Carry 1911...you get the picture). I can't let all the right wingers have all the fun.

I'm not a "one issue" voter like many people. At the end of the day, the Dems don't have enough clout in the legislature or in the federal courts to do a whole lot IMHO. An AWB will likely get filibustered. The real issue is the state legislatures, but then the Supreme Court will eventually get involved, and it still leans right.

The bigger concern is, frankly, the private sector. Price gouging is completely insane. You can't find ammo anywhere, and when you do find it, it is priced at obscene levels. I stopped by Walmart a few days ago and they didn't have any .223, .308, .45 or 9mm ammo. It is just crazy. I bought my SCAR for $2,200 a few years ago. You can't find it for less than $5K now. Stores are selling crappy AR-15s for $2K+. People are panicking.

But the paranoia has its benefits. I bought Ruger after Obama was elected. Up 10% and they issued a HUGE dividend (9% or so).

[stinkyfingers]

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

if the entire country sells weapons to the planet.. why in the world are you talking about gun regulation?

Canada makes guns, you know that don't you?


Colt Canada http://www.coltcanada.com/products.htm

Diemaco, Para-Ordnance, Savage Arms, Tobin Arms

[slapass]

The gun walking thing is 2006-2011 and never went as high as Bush or Obama.

"In January, the Mexico Permanent Commission reportedly voted to formally ask the United States Senate for a registry of all commercialized firearms in the border states of California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas." From the opinion section so who knows if their "reportedly" holds water.

Gotta love slanted and fake news.

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Canada makes guns, you know that don't you?


Colt Canada http://www.coltcanada.com/products.htm

Diemaco, Para-Ordnance, Savage Arms, Tobin Arms

[stinkyfingers]

nothing to see here. everything seems to be in perfect order. they should let mexican officials come over here and conduct random terror checks on our wives panties

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by slapass

The gun walking thing is 2006-2011 and never went as high as Bush or Obama.

"In January, the Mexico Permanent Commission reportedly voted to formally ask the United States Senate for a registry of all commercialized firearms in the border states of California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas." From the opinion section so who knows if their "reportedly" holds water.

Gotta love slanted and fake news.

http://www.informador.com.mx/mexico/...-balistico.htm

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Canada makes guns, you know that don't you?


Colt Canada http://www.coltcanada.com/products.htm

Diemaco, Para-Ordnance, Savage Arms, Tobin Arms

Samuel Colt (July 19, 1814 ? January 10, 1862) was an American inventor and industrialist from Hartford, Connecticut

furthermore, i was using 'you' as 'your country'.. my bad on that

thirdly, what in the world are you talking about

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

Samuel Colt (July 19, 1814 ? January 10, 1862) was an American inventor and industrialist from Hartford, Connecticut

furthermore, i was using 'you' as 'your country'.. my bad on that

thirdly, what in the world are you talking about

You commented like we were the only country making guns, Canada makes plenty.

Samuel Colt was an american, but it's making guns in Canada too!

[MK Ultra]

Originally Posted by Joe Obenberger

I really think that the framers of the Bill of Rights were among the most brilliant statesmen that any nation has been fortunate to possess, that they knew history well, but they knew human nature even better. Far better than anyone in our national government in many decades. That's why I think we all should be quite afraid to fuck with any part of the Bill of Rights. They all fit together intricately to frame a government fit for free people, a government under the control of the people. The main purpose of the Second Amendment is not self defense. It's not about hunting or target shooting. It's mainly about keeping the government on its toes, keeping the government just a wee bit apprehensive about imposing too much tyranny on its citizens.

This is why those in government who want to expand their control over the citizenry continue to try to restrict our Rights guaranteed by the Second Amendment, and it's the reason why we should continue to defend it.

It's sad that so few see that and seem to be in a great hurry to give up more and more their Freedoms

[DTK]

Current polling data of NRA members in terms of some the gun control initiatives being proposed. Long and short, even rank and file NRA members strongly support basic gun control like background checks. And last I checked, the NRA wasn't exactly a hotbed of liberalism

• 1. Requiring criminal background checks on gun owners and gun shop employees. 82 percent of all gun owners and 74 percent of NRA gun owners support the former, and 80 percent and 79 percent, respectively, endorse the latter.
• 2. Prohibiting terrorist watch list members from acquiring guns. Support ranges from 80 percent among non-NRA gun-owners to 71 percent among NRA members.
• 3. Mandating that gun-owners tell the police when their gun is stolen. 71 percent non-NRA gun-owners support this measure, as do 64 percent of NRA members.
• 4. Concealed carry permits should only be restricted to individuals who have completed a safety training course and are 21 and older. 84 percent of non-NRA and 74 percent of NRA member gun-owners support the safety training restriction, and the numbers are 74 percent and 63 percent for the age restriction.
• 5.Concealed carry permits shouldn?t be given to perpetrators of violent misdemeanors or individuals arrested for domestic violence. The NRA/non-NRA gun-owner split on these issues is 81 percent and 75 percent in favor of the violent misdemeanors provision and 78 percent/68 percent in favor of the domestic violence restriction.

The poll, which sampled 945 gun owners around the country and had a margin of error of +/- 3, also found broad support gun-owners for the principle that ?support for 2nd Amendment rights goes hand-in-hand with keeping illegal guns out of the hands of criminals.? In fact, more NRA members (87 percent) supported the statement than non-NRA members (83 percent).


imo, NRA leadership doesn't care because they're in the bag for the gun manufacturers. Gotta keep sellin' guns, gotta keep gettin' paid.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by MK Ultra

This is why those in government who want to expand their control over the citizenry continue to try to restrict our Rights guaranteed by the Second Amendment, and it's the reason why we should continue to defend it.

It's sad that so few see that and seem to be in a great hurry to give up more and more their Freedoms

where did you get this quote from? .net?

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Lester Burnham

I'm a Dem.

I voted for Obama.

I have a small arsenal at home (e.g., an FN SCAR-L, FN 5.7, Walther PPS, Ed Brown Kobra Carry 1911...you get the picture). I can't let all the right wingers have all the fun.

I'm not a "one issue" voter like many people. At the end of the day, the Dems don't have enough clout in the legislature or in the federal courts to do a whole lot IMHO. An AWB will likely get filibustered. The real issue is the state legislatures, but then the Supreme Court will eventually get involved, and it still leans right.

The bigger concern is, frankly, the private sector. Price gouging is completely insane. You can't find ammo anywhere, and when you do find it, it is priced at obscene levels. I stopped by Walmart a few days ago and they didn't have any .223, .308, .45 or 9mm ammo. It is just crazy. I bought my SCAR for $2,200 a few years ago. You can't find it for less than $5K now. Stores are selling crappy AR-15s for $2K+. People are panicking.

But the paranoia has its benefits. I bought Ruger after Obama was elected. Up 10% and they issued a HUGE dividend (9% or so).

This is pretty much the way I see it. The fed govt won't be able to ban guns as it will never make it through congress or the senate. It's the states that will do anything as far as banning goes, but most of that will get over turned as unconstitutional.

It's just like when the Right tries to push religion in schools or anti gay policies. It always gets over turned.

Meanwhile you have right wing retards running around with their hair on fire trying to buy everything that isn't bolted down at the gun shows & stores. These morons have likely maxed out their credit cards buying everything they can get their hands on.

All I'd like to see is better background checks and perhaps requiring a license to buy assault rifles. Essentially making it tougher for criminals to just walk into a store and buy a gun and giving them much stronger prison sentences if a gun is used in a crime.

[MK Ultra]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

where did you get this quote from? .net?

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?p=19460898#post19460898

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19460898&postcount=344

the rest was my

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by DTK

Current polling data of NRA members in terms of some the gun control initiatives being proposed. .

You think NRA members think we should wait to defend ourselves with ink pens?

You think an assault weapon is any gun with magazine over 10 rounds?

You think Mexico should get a list of gun owners in the US? Hell, Obama let him speak to congress and put down the US. Fuck Mexico

California already makes you take a class to get a carry permit.
California already has a background check.
California already makes you take a safety course unless you have a DD214 to buy a gun

[Heath]

Fact. Liberals go crazy on every issue, until a liberal can be held responsible for it...

[slapass]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

http://www.informador.com.mx/mexico/...-balistico.htm

This sounds like a decent plan. I had to use a translator but I wouldn't against this. They want to have access to who the gun was sold to if it is used in a crime in Mexico.

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by Verbal

Shouldn't you be jerking off to Fox News about now?

Fox news is too difficult for him.

[AdultPornMasta]

Originally Posted by Populace

Fact. Liberals go crazy on every issue, until a liberal can be held responsible for it...

"Liberals" don't "go" crazy......................they are crazy to begin with!

[Markul]

You just need this guy to take care of the evil liberals

[beerptrol]

Shouldn't you be in a submarine with your vatos locos taking their chorizo in your culo while singing taco flavored kisses

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by slapass

This sounds like a decent plan. I had to use a translator but I wouldn't against this. They want to have access to who the gun was sold to if it is used in a crime in Mexico.

They want a list of American Citizens, if the US gave my name to them on that list, I would be part of the long list of people suing the government.

Originally Posted by Dirty F

Fox news is too difficult for him.

I rarely watch the news on TV these days, Obama is going to spend more money on head start so hopefully your ignorance won't be repeated in the future.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by beerptrol

Shouldn't you be in a submarine with your vatos locos taking their chorizo in your culo while singing taco flavored kisses

Are you airing your fantasies?

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by Markul

You just need this guy to take care of the evil liberals

They're not evil, just idiots

[just a punk]

Gun nutters are liberals by default.

[Matyko]

I was against guns, but then today I found this:















Needless to say: now I do support giving powerful guns to hot chicks.

PS: content is from Digital Playground

[CDSmith]

Originally Posted by DTK

Current polling data of NRA members in terms of some the gun control initiatives being proposed. Long and short, even rank and file NRA members strongly support basic gun control like background checks. And last I checked, the NRA wasn't exactly a hotbed of liberalism

• 1. Requiring criminal background checks on gun owners and gun shop employees. 82 percent of all gun owners and 74 percent of NRA gun owners support the former, and 80 percent and 79 percent, respectively, endorse the latter.
• 2. Prohibiting terrorist watch list members from acquiring guns. Support ranges from 80 percent among non-NRA gun-owners to 71 percent among NRA members.
• 3. Mandating that gun-owners tell the police when their gun is stolen. 71 percent non-NRA gun-owners support this measure, as do 64 percent of NRA members.
• 4. Concealed carry permits should only be restricted to individuals who have completed a safety training course and are 21 and older. 84 percent of non-NRA and 74 percent of NRA member gun-owners support the safety training restriction, and the numbers are 74 percent and 63 percent for the age restriction.
• 5.Concealed carry permits shouldn?t be given to perpetrators of violent misdemeanors or individuals arrested for domestic violence. The NRA/non-NRA gun-owner split on these issues is 81 percent and 75 percent in favor of the violent misdemeanors provision and 78 percent/68 percent in favor of the domestic violence restriction.

The poll, which sampled 945 gun owners around the country and had a margin of error of +/- 3, also found broad support gun-owners for the principle that ?support for 2nd Amendment rights goes hand-in-hand with keeping illegal guns out of the hands of criminals.? In fact, more NRA members (87 percent) supported the statement than non-NRA members (83 percent).


imo, NRA leadership doesn't care because they're in the bag for the gun manufacturers. Gotta keep sellin' guns, gotta keep gettin' paid.

Those are the kinds of gun regulations I've been saying are needed for years now.

[stinkyfingers]

[slapass]

Obama laid out his plan on guns.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...very-plan.html

“This is not just a gun issue,” Obama said on Feb. 15, when he returned to Chicago to promote his agenda. “It’s also an issue of the kinds of communities that we’re building.”

[DTK]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

You think NRA members think we should wait to defend ourselves with ink pens?

Did I say this? No.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

You think an assault weapon is any gun with magazine over 10 rounds?

Did I say this? No.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

You think Mexico should get a list of gun owners in the US?

Did I say this? No.

I was posting poll results. The only opinion i expressed is that NRA leadership is in the bag for their paymasters, the gun manufacturers.

[slapass]

Did I read the Mexico thing wrong? "They want to know who bought the gun when it is used in a crime." Or that is how I understood it.

[DTK]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Those are the kinds of gun regulations I've been saying are needed for years now.

But it's gun-grabbing! Don't you know? Count Chocula is coming for all our guns! Head NRA sock-puppet Wayne LaPierre says (or strongly implies) that's the case, so it must be true. or something....

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by DTK

Did I say this? No.

Did I say this? No.

Did I say this? No.

I was posting poll results. The only opinion i expressed is that NRA leadership is in the bag for their paymasters, the gun manufacturers.

What poll results were you posting, was it polled by the NRA or was it polled by those being polled that said they were NRA?

Keep to the OP, everything you posted is already in place, but you already knew that, correct?

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by slapass

Did I read the Mexico thing wrong? "They want to know who bought the gun when it is used in a crime." Or that is how I understood it.

they want a database of all legal gun owners in states along their borders

[slapass]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

they want a database of all legal gun owners in states along their borders

This is a translation of what they want - "PRI Senator Marcela Guerra presented the proposal, which aims at the time that these weapons are used in a violent act, you can know precisely the name of the person who originally purchased the armory."

It seems if a firearm was legally bought in the US and used in a crime in Mexico that we could help trace the ownership of that gun. Fuck, I thought we did that now. Why wouldn't we do this?

[brassmonkey]

this is a money maker if passed

[Joe Obenberger]

Yeah, well, the history of Mexico rarely shows any indication of much respect for individual rights.

Generations of immigrants coming into New York harbor were greeted with a beacon here that personified the spirit of Liberty - and that tells the tale.

We don't maintain any federal registry of gun owners at large. When plans for that emerge, it will seriously undercut the principle behind the Second Amendment - that a well-armed body of citizens keeps the government on its toes and acts to prevent tyanny.

Delighted to report that last weekend, another lawyer and I held a meeting to establish The Second Amendment Lawyer's Association. We hope to work aggressively to defend gun rights.

[Rochard]

Let's do this!

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Never mind Obama gave guns to Mexico's drug cartel that they want to take away from Legal Gun Owners in the US, check this shit out!!!

Amazing how you turn everything into Obama's fault.

The Republican party lost. Badly. Twice. To a black man. That pretty shows you exactly how bad the Republican party has become.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Washington state wants to ban sales assault weapons.

And? Wouldn't be the first time.

I have three assault rifles here in my house. WTF? The same exact weapon I trained with for four years in the US Marines. This cracks me the fuck up. Anyone can own an assault rifle. That's funny already.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

To show how little people that are against guns know about them, it's a Magazine, not a clip page 3, line 9

I grew up calling it a clip. Now that I think about it, even in the Marines we called it a clip.

Wikipedia says: The detachable magazine is often controversially referred to as a clip or mag.

You call it tomato, I call it tamoto.

Your point?

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

They are pretty broad about what an assault weapon is, even a 9mm pistol with a 15 round clip is an assault weapon?

I'm sorry, when you say clip, you mean magazine, RIGHT?

No one said a 9mm pistol is an assault rifle. The article seems to be about assault rifles, handguns, antique rifles.... However, a 9mm pistol with 15 round clip is a bit of over kill for self defense, isn't it? At a certain point you can argue that a firearm is no longer about self defense, and is more of an assault weapon.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

keep our guns to protect us from these idiots

People scare the fuck out of me. The main road outside of my house is shut down for repairs, and while out on my run this morning I saw a thirty year old man who not only blew right through the stop sign, but slide right into a temporary barrier.

You want to be saved by "these idiots" and then.... Turn around and arm the idiots who can't see the road closed signs, the stop sign, OR FORTY FEET OF WHITE AND ORANGE BARRIERS?

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Lester Burnham

But the paranoia has its benefits. I bought Ruger after Obama was elected. Up 10% and they issued a HUGE dividend (9% or so).

Seems like the NRA has done it's job and earned it's pay. Firearms are flying off the shelves, every other retard is now armed, and none of us can buy ammo.

Win win for everyone.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Matyko

Holy shit that turns me on.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by DTK

Current polling data of NRA members in terms of some the gun control initiatives being proposed. Long and short, even rank and file NRA members strongly support basic gun control like background checks. And last I checked, the NRA wasn't exactly a hotbed of liberalism

• 1. Requiring criminal background checks on gun owners and gun shop employees. 82 percent of all gun owners and 74 percent of NRA gun owners support the former, and 80 percent and 79 percent, respectively, endorse the latter.
• 2. Prohibiting terrorist watch list members from acquiring guns. Support ranges from 80 percent among non-NRA gun-owners to 71 percent among NRA members.
• 3. Mandating that gun-owners tell the police when their gun is stolen. 71 percent non-NRA gun-owners support this measure, as do 64 percent of NRA members.
• 4. Concealed carry permits should only be restricted to individuals who have completed a safety training course and are 21 and older. 84 percent of non-NRA and 74 percent of NRA member gun-owners support the safety training restriction, and the numbers are 74 percent and 63 percent for the age restriction.
• 5.Concealed carry permits shouldn?t be given to perpetrators of violent misdemeanors or individuals arrested for domestic violence. The NRA/non-NRA gun-owner split on these issues is 81 percent and 75 percent in favor of the violent misdemeanors provision and 78 percent/68 percent in favor of the domestic violence restriction.

The poll, which sampled 945 gun owners around the country and had a margin of error of +/- 3, also found broad support gun-owners for the principle that ?support for 2nd Amendment rights goes hand-in-hand with keeping illegal guns out of the hands of criminals.? In fact, more NRA members (87 percent) supported the statement than non-NRA members (83 percent).


imo, NRA leadership doesn't care because they're in the bag for the gun manufacturers. Gotta keep sellin' guns, gotta keep gettin' paid.

Background checks need to further. Seems to me right now all they are doing is checking for criminal background. We need mental health checks.

You also said....

Concealed carry permits shouldn?t be given to perpetrators of violent misdemeanors or individuals arrested for domestic violence.

Um, these people shouldn't have firearms at all. Period.

[ajrocks]

You guys don't even know the meaning of Liberal. Check out our Canadian government, there is a guy on trial right now that was having his store robbed. He defending himself and store with a stick dipped in some Indian spices. He's been charge for using a dangerous weapon similar to mace....

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Let's do this!



Amazing how you turn everything into Obama's fault.

Not everything

The Republican party lost. Badly. Twice. To a black man. That pretty shows you exactly how bad the Republican party has become.

Race card, seriously?

And? Wouldn't be the first time.

I have three assault rifles here in my house. WTF? The same exact weapon I trained with for four years in the US Marines. This cracks me the fuck up. Anyone can own an assault rifle. That's funny already.




I grew up calling it a clip. Now that I think about it, even in the Marines we called it a clip.

Wikipedia says: The detachable magazine is often controversially referred to as a clip or mag.

You call it tomato, I call it tamoto.

Your point?



I'm sorry, when you say clip, you mean magazine, RIGHT?

No one said a 9mm pistol is an assault rifle. The article seems to be about assault rifles, handguns, antique rifles.... However, a 9mm pistol with 15 round clip is a bit of over kill for self defense, isn't it? At a certain point you can argue that a firearm is no longer about self defense, and is more of an assault weapon.



People scare the fuck out of me. The main road outside of my house is shut down for repairs, and while out on my run this morning I saw a thirty year old man who not only blew right through the stop sign, but slide right into a temporary barrier.

You want to be saved by "these idiots" and then.... Turn around and arm the idiots who can't see the road closed signs, the stop sign, OR FORTY FEET OF WHITE AND ORANGE BARRIERS?

These idiots want people to attack people with guns using ink pens, what do you call them?

You've never dealt with the law much, by calling it two different things in the bill, makes it's a problem, they have to be referred to as the same thing

[stinkyfingers]