I agree with Adam Carolla 110%, ?What?s Wrong with Blacks and Latinos?? - GoFuckYourself.com

johnnyloadproductions · 03-08-2013, 02:31 PM

Say what you will about him, he's right.
Mr. Carolla is in a unique position in the fact that his pay is funded through sponsorship and affiliate programs that aren't directly tied (enough to pull the plug) to any corporation (his pirate ship). As a result he is able to talk directly about reality.

Does it really still evade people why the sterotypes of Jews and Asian make them so successful?

Gawker on Adam Carolla

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His solution for blacks and Latinos? Simple: Be more like the Jews. "Fathers, stay at home, raise your family, do your homework with your kids, put an emphasis on education like the Jews, like the Asians, and let's see what happens to the problem in 20 years," said Carolla.

It was an interesting podcast, Gavin Newsom kept dancing around like any good politician does simply because that's what you have to do to stay in office.

Few if any will publicly agree with him because of the repercussions.

Anyway, it's a good show, consider listening if you don't already. I also dig Marc Maron and a few other podcasts.

L-Pink · 03-08-2013, 02:39 PM

The truth always makes people uncomfortable.

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_Richard_ · 03-08-2013, 02:41 PM

CDSmith · 03-08-2013, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

The truth always makes people uncomfortable.

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Sometimes more than uncomfortable.

_Richard_ · 03-08-2013, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Sometimes more than uncomfortable.

_Richard_ · 03-08-2013, 02:46 PM

wait let me find some random black man picture.. any nation, race, or creed will do right?

just needs to be angry and black?

tony286 · 03-08-2013, 02:52 PM

biggest welfare check receivers white. And Adam has become a douche in his old age.

_Richard_ · 03-08-2013, 02:53 PM

hell yea.. why couldn't they just raise their families like normal, good families.. like us white people

SHIT.. damn. wait. this is a riot about yet another dead black kids at the hands of a police officer

ill get it right, i know i will.. one sec

tony286 · 03-08-2013, 02:54 PM

I dont think Gavin wasnt dancing but he was holding back wanting to say you stupid simple minded asshole.

_Richard_ · 03-08-2013, 02:57 PM

ok look at these savage animals. our intrepid forefathers even had to go so far as to call in the national guard.

animals.

wait.. what's Newark?

damn, did it again didn't i

L-Pink · 03-08-2013, 02:58 PM

Anyone that doesn't see a problem with family structure in today's America has their head up their ass. The problem, for various reasons is worse for black families.

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_Richard_ · 03-08-2013, 02:59 PM

and it's totally their fault. i agree with you!

We should totally arrange more sheriff owned prisons and fill em up!

obviously THAT solution is working so well.. just look at the prison numbers!

johnnyloadproductions · 03-08-2013, 03:01 PM

I wouldn't think it would take extreme analysis to really understand that there is a fundamental problem here: A stable and traditional family in most homes and of course a love of education in general.

tony286 · 03-08-2013, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

Anyone that doesn't see a problem with family structure in today's America has their head up their ass. The problem, for various reasons is worse for black families.

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Of course that's a problem and also its the first place they cut education is the bad neighborhoods. Its not a simple answer

_Richard_ · 03-08-2013, 03:04 PM

absolutely, and CIA owned and traffic'd blow is JUST the drug to build up those stable and traditional family homes!

i wonder why we haven't tried that before..

shimmy2 · 03-08-2013, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

look at the black dude with the tire

johnnyloadproductions · 03-08-2013, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286

Of course that's a problem and also its the first place they cut education is the bad neighborhoods. Its not a simple answer

Though I agree with your statements, it's a poor stance to just condemn it as too complicated.
Very few things are ever resolved or blow over by doing nothing.

TheSquealer · 03-08-2013, 03:06 PM

I was listening to the podcast when it went live and was laughing my ass off. Its simple. Gavin brought up "blacks and latinos" and when later cornered by "why those two groups", he wouldn't give a straight answer because like any politician, he reflexively talks in soundbites and wasn't prepared for a long format and real discussion.

Gavin himself circled back many times singling out blacks and latinos. Not Carolla. Carolla kept asking "why those two groups". He wouldn't answer the simple question "whats different about blacks and latinos - that doesn't affect jews or asians or anyone else" and kept dancing in circles around the subject. Its a legitimate question "why aren't Asians and Jews lining up at check cashing places"? Why is it such a crime to talk about it? Why does it make someone a douche? Why is it that the people who always claim to care and want to help are the last people to talk about tough solutions to complex problems and call anyone willing to discuss it a racist?

At the end of it all, a politician said something that bordered on a pre-programmed response to appeal to his voter base that was basically racist in nature and got called out on it and did not have a single answer as to what to do and didn't want to discuss the issue. Willing to say there's a problem. Not willing to discuss who needs to get their shit together or what needs to be done. Not willing to admit families are super important. Not willing to state that fathers need to stay home and raise their kids etc etc etc.

L-Pink · 03-08-2013, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286

Of course that's a problem and also its the first place they cut education is the bad neighborhoods. Its not a simple answer

Family structure, or lack of one combined with sports/rap/gangster role models have fucked black youth's goals and expectations. Being smart isn't cool ? has more to do with the problem than funding.

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bronco67 · 03-08-2013, 03:09 PM

Maybe they just don't get checking accounts...kind of like how they don't wear rubbers. A black guy who I grew up with keeps his money in a shoebox and has 7 kids. True story.

TheSquealer · 03-08-2013, 03:13 PM

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Maybe they just don't get checking accounts...kind of like how they don't wear rubbers. A black guy who I grew up with keeps his money in a shoebox and has 7 kids. True story.

That was really a dumb thing to say too.

(paraphrasing)
"They simply don't have access to checking accounts"... "why not".... "well, its really complicated"... "uhm... anyone can get a checking account".... "uhm... its not that simple"... "why isn't it that simple?".... "look, i get what you're about, you think everything is simple".... "no, i'm asking why a person can't get a checking account.... do you have an answer?"

tony286 · 03-08-2013, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

Family structure, or lack of one combined with sports/rap/gangster role models have fucked black youth's goals and expectations. Being smart isn't cool ? has more to do with the problem than funding.

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Was being smart ever cool? Please tell me when that was ? Im 48.

TheSquealer · 03-08-2013, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286

Was being smart ever cool? Please tell me when that was ? Im 48.

The distinguishing difference between then and now is that "dumb" has become cool... and has been for many years.

tony286 · 03-08-2013, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions

Though I agree with your statements, it's a poor stance to just condemn it as too complicated.
Very few things are ever resolved or blow over by doing nothing.

This is true and to keep cutting funding in ghetto schools isnt going to fix it. Thats where a strong school is needed more there where there isnt that family unit

tony286 · 03-08-2013, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

The distinguishing difference between then and now is that "dumb" has become cool... and has been for many years.

Really dumb is cool?

johnnyloadproductions · 03-08-2013, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

"They simply don't have access to checking accounts"... "why not".... "well, its really complicated"... "uhm... anyone can get a checking account".... "uhm... its not that simple"... "why isn't it that simple?".... "look, i get what you're about, you think everything is simple".... "no, i'm asking why a person can't get a checking account.... do you have an answer?"

That's pretty much how the heated part of the interview went. I'm glad you're someone who has a sane mind and seems to be grounded in reality...

...at least in this case

johnnyloadproductions · 03-08-2013, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286

Really dumb is cool?

Are you seeking validation?

tony286 · 03-08-2013, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions

Are you seeking validation?

no but when someone says dumb is cool now. Please show me where? Are you getting nasty now? I love a good debate but when it gets personal Im out.

Asparaguss · 03-08-2013, 03:22 PM

I agree with Carolla 100%

TheSquealer · 03-08-2013, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions

That's pretty much how the heated part of the interview went. I'm glad you're someone who has a sane mind and seems to be grounded in reality...

...at least in this case

Gavin seemed like a very nice and very likable guy and he was a good sport for the most part. He just made the mistake of going on autopilot with some of his early responses not thinking about being called out on it or having to explain himself (which he clearly couldn't).

I did like the fact that he was a small business owner that had to deal with a very hostile climate towards small business and understood a lot needs to change there,... particularly in California.

But anyway, thats what politicians do. We need more people in the world calling it like it is and holding people accountable for their remarks, their positions, their spending, their track records, their voting records etc... i'm tired of idiots with a nice smile and 200.00 haircut who are solely in the business of getting re-elected, rather than tackling complex issues which pretty much guarantee you won't get re-elected. I don't particularly have strong positions on anything. The thing that bothers me is all the self delusion, the denial, the sound bites, the sensationalized headlines and the theater of politics which keep attention off the actual problems.

johnnyloadproductions · 03-08-2013, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286

no but when someone says dumb is cool now. Please show me where? Are you getting nasty now? I love a good debate but when it gets personal Im out.

LOL.

Just take a look at Bill Cosby and what he said referring that blacks and their peers telling them to quit studying "quit being white."
It's not outright saying dumb is cool but moreover embracing a culture that wants nothing to do with Science or delayed gratification.

purecane · 03-08-2013, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

Family structure, or lack of one combined with sports/rap/gangster role models have fucked black youth's goals and expectations. Being smart isn't cool ? has more to do with the problem than funding.

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that's exactly right, today's youth are berated with pop culture, gangsta rap, and sports personalities in excess. watch good fellas, or a bronx tale guys. 40 years ago our heroes were crooks, but they cared about three things, family, community and money. now all we have are a bunch of baggy jeans wearing, gun toting gold tooth grinning jackasses.

ps. gold chains, guns and Cadillac's, us Italians started that. and we are just fine.

L-Pink · 03-08-2013, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286

Was being smart ever cool? Please tell me when that was ? Im 48.

I grew up in Hawaii and getting good grades was cool, maybe Asian influence? Also any athlete was very aware of his grades and proud of them as no exceptions were made for academic ineligibility. Plus my father was a hard ass.

tony286 · 03-08-2013, 03:43 PM

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that's exactly right, today's youth are berated with pop culture, gangsta rap, and sports personalities in excess. watch good fellas, or a bronx tale guys. 40 years ago our heroes were crooks, but they cared about three things, family, community and money. now all we have are a bunch of baggy jeans wearing, gun toting gold tooth grinning jackasses.

ps. gold chains, guns and Cadillac's, us Italians started that. and we are just fine.

In the 60's and 70's rock stars got high all the time. You heard about studio 54 and the beautiful people doing blow all night long. You had John McEnroe losing his shit on the court.This isnt new.

tony286 · 03-08-2013, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

I grew up in Hawaii and getting good grades was cool, maybe Asian influence? Also any athlete was very aware of his grades and proud of them as no exceptions were made for academic ineligibility. Plus my father was a hard ass.

I grew up in too places in NY as a kid one isnt wasnt cool and the second place it was.But it really wasnt cool it was look how good Johnny did or boy he is smart. Also 50 cent is worth what 250 million dollars? Not so dumb. lol

Jayvis · 03-08-2013, 03:46 PM

I don't really know much about this specific issue in particular but I'm an occasional listener to his podcast and in my opinion his glory days are well behind him. Don't get me wrong, he is a GREAT radio host, but if you want the real Adam listen to some old episodes of Loveline (http://lovelinetapes.com/) he is absolutely hilarious and always on point. He's lost some of his sharpness in my opinion, mostly because his newer podcasts lose traction when he's bouncing off of too many people who are also on his podcast. He shines best when he's by himself or with Dr. Drew. Most people dismiss Loveline as a show for dumb teenagers, but they actually hardly take calls... its more or less Adam ranting 20 minutes at a time and then they'll take a 3 minute call... it was a great show. Or just Youtube some of Adam's best rants:

L-Pink · 03-08-2013, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286

In the 60's and 70's rock stars got high all the time. You heard about studio 54 and the beautiful people doing blow all night long. You had John McEnroe losing his shit on the court.This isnt new.

But I didn't want to do heroin just because a rock star was. As far as McEnroe I would have loved having his talent but no way would I emulate being an asshole. MY PARENTS WOULDN"T HAVE ALLOWED IT. Even if I wanted to.

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L-Pink · 03-08-2013, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286

I grew up in too places in NY as a kid one isnt wasnt cool and the second place it was.But it really wasnt cool it was look how good Johnny did or boy he is smart. Also 50 cent is worth what 250 million dollars? Not so dumb. lol

No but the hundreds of thousands of young black males that think that is the only life for them are sure in for a disappointment.

davethedope · 03-08-2013, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by purecane73

that's exactly right, today's youth are berated with pop culture, gangsta rap, and sports personalities in excess. watch good fellas, or a bronx tale guys. 40 years ago our heroes were crooks, but they cared about three things, family, community and money. now all we have are a bunch of baggy jeans wearing, gun toting gold tooth grinning jackasses.

ps. gold chains, guns and Cadillac's, us Italians started that. and we are just fine.

true, in America we only had to lynch a few of you to get the picture

johnnyloadproductions · 03-08-2013, 03:56 PM

Are you kidding me? His podcast is the most popular podcast in the world!!!

From wikipedia and this is 1.5 years old for stats. There's a reason why conservative hosts like Glen Beck and Bill O'Reily likes him and has his own segment "Rollin' with Carolla."

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At the end of 2009, The Adam Carolla Podcast was selected by iTunes for its end-of-the-year awards as the Best Audio Podcast of 2009.[30] On May 18, 2011, Adam announced on Jimmy Kimmel Live! that The Adam Carolla Show has taken the Guinness World Record for the most downloaded podcast ever from Ricky Gervais[31][31] after receiving 59,574,843 unique downloads from March 2009 to March 16, 2011.[32]

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Originally Posted by Jayvis

I don't really know much about this specific issue in particular but I'm an occasional listener to his podcast and in my opinion his glory days are well behind him. Don't get me wrong, he is a GREAT radio host, but if you want the real Adam listen to some old episodes of Loveline (http://lovelinetapes.com/) he is absolutely hilarious and always on point. He's lost some of his sharpness in my opinion, mostly because his newer podcasts lose traction when he's bouncing off of too many people who are also on his podcast. He shines best when he's by himself or with Dr. Drew. Most people dismiss Loveline as a show for dumb teenagers, but they actually hardly take calls... its more or less Adam ranting 20 minutes at a time and then they'll take a 3 minute call... it was a great show. Or just Youtube some of Adam's best rants:

rogueteens · 03-08-2013, 03:58 PM

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Sometimes more than uncomfortable.

That one in the red coat on the right actually looks like he has blacked himself up!

brassmonkey · 03-08-2013, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions

Say what you will about him, he's right.
Mr. Carolla is in a unique position in the fact that his pay is funded through sponsorship and affiliate programs that aren't directly tied (enough to pull the plug) to any corporation (his pirate ship). As a result he is able to talk directly about reality.

Does it really still evade people why the sterotypes of Jews and Asian make them so successful?

Gawker on Adam Carolla

It was an interesting podcast, Gavin Newsom kept dancing around like any good politician does simply because that's what you have to do to stay in office.

Few if any will publicly agree with him because of the repercussions.

Anyway, it's a good show, consider listening if you don't already. I also dig Marc Maron and a few other podcasts.

thanx for the grand canyon if that indian didnt drop that nickel in that crack...

Grapesoda · 03-08-2013, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions

Say what you will about him, he's right.
Mr. Carolla is in a unique position in the fact that his pay is funded through sponsorship and affiliate programs that aren't directly tied (enough to pull the plug) to any corporation (his pirate ship). As a result he is able to talk directly about reality.

Does it really still evade people why the sterotypes of Jews and Asian make them so successful?

Gawker on Adam Carolla

It was an interesting podcast, Gavin Newsom kept dancing around like any good politician does simply because that's what you have to do to stay in office.

Few if any will publicly agree with him because of the repercussions.

Anyway, it's a good show, consider listening if you don't already. I also dig Marc Maron and a few other podcasts.

it's whiteys fault

LeRoy · 03-08-2013, 04:01 PM

This thread will go a few pages fo sho ;)

johnnyloadproductions · 03-08-2013, 04:11 PM

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it's whiteys fault

What do you think of Bill Cosby? Turned on his own people?

Grapesoda · 03-08-2013, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

That was really a dumb thing to say too.

(paraphrasing)
"They simply don't have access to checking accounts"... "why not".... "well, its really complicated"... "uhm... anyone can get a checking account".... "uhm... its not that simple"... "why isn't it that simple?".... "look, i get what you're about, you think everything is simple".... "no, i'm asking why a person can't get a checking account.... do you have an answer?"

when I shoot black girls it's usually 8-10 days of constant bullshit with them trying to cash the check

johnnyloadproductions · 03-08-2013, 04:25 PM

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when I shoot black girls it's usually 8-10 days of constant bullshit with them trying to cash the check

Oh wow! Most content producers don't know how much value there is if they'd publish all the drama stories like this.

TheSquealer · 03-08-2013, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286

Of course that's a problem and also its the first place they cut education is the bad neighborhoods. Its not a simple answer

your position on everything is very predictable... "It's not their fault-it's some other thing making it happen"

_Richard_ · 03-08-2013, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

your position on everything is very predictable... "It's not their fault-it's some other thing making it happen"

“Our character is what we do when we think no one is looking.”

purecane · 03-08-2013, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by davethedope

true, in America we only had to lynch a few of you to get the picture

http://youtu.be/5ydqjqZ_3oc

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TheSquealer BANNED Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In Your Head Posts: 25,094	I was listening to the podcast when it went live and was laughing my ass off. Its simple. Gavin brought up "blacks and latinos" and when later cornered by "why those two groups", he wouldn't give a straight answer because like any politician, he reflexively talks in soundbites and wasn't prepared for a long format and real discussion. Gavin himself circled back many times singling out blacks and latinos. Not Carolla. Carolla kept asking "why those two groups". He wouldn't answer the simple question "whats different about blacks and latinos - that doesn't affect jews or asians or anyone else" and kept dancing in circles around the subject. Its a legitimate question "why aren't Asians and Jews lining up at check cashing places"? Why is it such a crime to talk about it? Why does it make someone a douche? Why is it that the people who always claim to care and want to help are the last people to talk about tough solutions to complex problems and call anyone willing to discuss it a racist? At the end of it all, a politician said something that bordered on a pre-programmed response to appeal to his voter base that was basically racist in nature and got called out on it and did not have a single answer as to what to do and didn't want to discuss the issue. Willing to say there's a problem. Not willing to discuss who needs to get their shit together or what needs to be done. Not willing to admit families are super important. Not willing to state that fathers need to stay home and raise their kids etc etc etc. __________________ . Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens. Rochard Last edited by TheSquealer; 03-08-2013 at 03:10 PM..

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bronco67 Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 29,032	Maybe they just don't get checking accounts...kind of like how they don't wear rubbers. A black guy who I grew up with keeps his money in a shoebox and has 7 kids. True story. __________________

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Jayvis Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 5,427	I don't really know much about this specific issue in particular but I'm an occasional listener to his podcast and in my opinion his glory days are well behind him. Don't get me wrong, he is a GREAT radio host, but if you want the real Adam listen to some old episodes of Loveline (http://lovelinetapes.com/) he is absolutely hilarious and always on point. He's lost some of his sharpness in my opinion, mostly because his newer podcasts lose traction when he's bouncing off of too many people who are also on his podcast. He shines best when he's by himself or with Dr. Drew. Most people dismiss Loveline as a show for dumb teenagers, but they actually hardly take calls... its more or less Adam ranting 20 minutes at a time and then they'll take a 3 minute call... it was a great show. Or just Youtube some of Adam's best rants: Last edited by Jayvis; 03-08-2013 at 03:48 PM..

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L-Pink working on my tan Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida/Kentucky Posts: 39,151	The truth always makes people uncomfortable. .

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_Richard_ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Vancouver Posts: 30,985	wait let me find some random black man picture.. any nation, race, or creed will do right? just needs to be angry and black?

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	biggest welfare check receivers white. And Adam has become a douche in his old age.

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_Richard_ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Vancouver Posts: 30,985	hell yea.. why couldn't they just raise their families like normal, good families.. like us white people SHIT.. damn. wait. this is a riot about yet another dead black kids at the hands of a police officer ill get it right, i know i will.. one sec

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	I dont think Gavin wasnt dancing but he was holding back wanting to say you stupid simple minded asshole.

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_Richard_ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Vancouver Posts: 30,985	ok look at these savage animals. our intrepid forefathers even had to go so far as to call in the national guard. animals. wait.. what's Newark? damn, did it again didn't i

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L-Pink working on my tan Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida/Kentucky Posts: 39,151	Anyone that doesn't see a problem with family structure in today's America has their head up their ass. The problem, for various reasons is worse for black families. .

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_Richard_ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Vancouver Posts: 30,985	and it's totally their fault. i agree with you! We should totally arrange more sheriff owned prisons and fill em up! obviously THAT solution is working so well.. just look at the prison numbers!

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johnnyloadproductions Account Shutdown Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Gone Posts: 3,611	I wouldn't think it would take extreme analysis to really understand that there is a fundamental problem here: A stable and traditional family in most homes and of course a love of education in general.

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_Richard_ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Vancouver Posts: 30,985	absolutely, and CIA owned and traffic'd blow is JUST the drug to build up those stable and traditional family homes! i wonder why we haven't tried that before..