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brassmonkey · 03-28-2013, 10:32 PM

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Joshua G · 03-29-2013, 12:05 AM

CGI is to blame.

technology changed what movies are made & how they are made. Movies before CGI & after CGI are far different animals. everything 1993 & earlier was mostly dependent on a good story & good actors to make a blockbuster. With CGI, good stories & actors are completely unnecessary. Michael bay is living proof of that.

so if a hollywood exec has to choose between a good story that may or may not sell, or a crappy CGI flick that already sells & has a built in audience for the sequel, the decision is easy.

all of the CGI movies & their sequels could not even be made before 1993.

ReggieDurango · 04-02-2013, 09:39 PM

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Saw GI Joe tonight. Was as corny as the first one. Not sure wht they called it GI Joe 2, as it had nothing to do with the last one.

Really Man???
I thought it was Much MUCH MUUUCCCH better than "Gi Joe 1" [i.e. the previous movie, of which this newly-released film is claiming to to be a hybrid of a sequel and reboot... actually saw the movie at the Director's Guild on Saturday and Director Chu did a live Q&A afterwards where he said that]

crockett · 04-02-2013, 10:28 PM

It's really not the filmmakers that are to blame (assuming you mean directors) It's the production companies.

They risk a hell of a lot of money when creating a film, specially with today's standards of quality FX & CGI, star power ect..ect. Hollywood is a victim of it's own success. They are in the biz to make money, so making money safely means going with "predicable success".

There are lots of original films out there to be seen, you just have to accept they won't have the production quality of big budget Hollywood. Netfix has a "decent" amount of foreign & Indie films, browse their library and you will find some decent non Hollywood re-hashed shit.

Supz · 04-02-2013, 10:29 PM

fast and furious 6, cant wait.

kane · 04-02-2013, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JoshGirls Josh

CGI is to blame.

technology changed what movies are made & how they are made. Movies before CGI & after CGI are far different animals. everything 1993 & earlier was mostly dependent on a good story & good actors to make a blockbuster. With CGI, good stories & actors are completely unnecessary. Michael bay is living proof of that.

so if a hollywood exec has to choose between a good story that may or may not sell, or a crappy CGI flick that already sells & has a built in audience for the sequel, the decision is easy.

all of the CGI movies & their sequels could not even be made before 1993.

CGI can be used correctly though. Think about The Lord of the Rings movies. These movies likely couldn't have been made in the pre-CGI era (or at least they wouldn't have looked as good) and they are great stories.

The real differences is that someone like Peter Jackson finds projects he believes in and fights to get them made. I also like many of the superhero movies (although some are not as good), but Iron Man was great and I also really liked The Avengers and the first couple of Spider-man movies. All CGI heavy, but they had good stories, good characters and were fun.

Like anything, CGI can be used for bad too. Look back in the 1980's and 90's when over the top action movies with guys like Stallone, Arnie, Chuck Norris etc were ruling the box office. Most of those movies sucked, but they had a formula. Throw in a larger than life action star, add a few memorable/funny lines of dialogue then blow a bunch of shit up and you have a hit on your hands. Hollywood cranked that crap out.

kane · 04-02-2013, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

It's really not the filmmakers that are to blame (assuming you mean directors) It's the production companies.

They risk a hell of a lot of money when creating a film, specially with today's standards of quality FX & CGI, star power ect..ect. Hollywood is a victim of it's own success. They are in the biz to make money, so making money safely means going with "predicable success".

There are lots of original films out there to be seen, you just have to accept they won't have the production quality of big budget Hollywood. Netfix has a "decent" amount of foreign & Indie films, browse their library and you will find some decent non Hollywood re-hashed shit.

I probably have at least 30-35 movies in my instant watch queue on Netflix that are indie movies or movies that I have read good stuff about and understand to be good. There are also a few that I have scene, liked and want to see again. There is plenty of good stuff out there for those who want to spend a few minutes to look for it.

If a person is just going to watch the movies that get multi-million dollar ad campaigns they are likely going to be disappointed more often than not.

crockett · 04-02-2013, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

I probably have at least 30-35 movies in my instant watch queue on Netflix that are indie movies or movies that I have read good stuff about and understand to be good. There are also a few that I have scene, liked and want to see again. There is plenty of good stuff out there for those who want to spend a few minutes to look for it.

If a person is just going to watch the movies that get multi-million dollar ad campaigns they are likely going to be disappointed more often than not.

Yea that's pretty much me as well.. There are certain types of blow them up Hollywood movies that I don't mind watching, but they are generally sci fi related. Transforms, Alien, Predator, Terminator type franchise's.. However I have no interest in the typical shoot them up big explosion stuff that Hollywood pushes out the door to feed the brain-dead masses.

I'd much rather watch a low budget movie that has a good story line vs some big explosion high budget bad plot garbage.

kane · 04-03-2013, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Yea that's pretty much me as well.. There are certain types of blow them up Hollywood movies that I don't mind watching, but they are generally sci fi related. Transforms, Alien, Predator, Terminator type franchise's.. However I have no interest in the typical shoot them up big explosion stuff that Hollywood pushes out the door to feed the brain-dead masses.

I'd much rather watch a low budget movie that has a good story line vs some big explosion high budget bad plot garbage.

For sure. Sometimes I am just in the mood for some mindless entertainment and I can think of worse things to do than watch Megan Fox run around the screen for a couple of hours while I soak up some AC in the middle of a hot summer and watch robots battle. Those aren't the kind of movies I regularly watch, but sometimes the mood strikes.

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crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	It's really not the filmmakers that are to blame (assuming you mean directors) It's the production companies. They risk a hell of a lot of money when creating a film, specially with today's standards of quality FX & CGI, star power ect..ect. Hollywood is a victim of it's own success. They are in the biz to make money, so making money safely means going with "predicable success". There are lots of original films out there to be seen, you just have to accept they won't have the production quality of big budget Hollywood. Netfix has a "decent" amount of foreign & Indie films, browse their library and you will find some decent non Hollywood re-hashed shit. Last edited by crockett; 04-02-2013 at 10:29 PM..

03-29-2013, 12:05 AM	#52
Joshua G dumb libs love censorship Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 8,198	CGI is to blame. technology changed what movies are made & how they are made. Movies before CGI & after CGI are far different animals. everything 1993 & earlier was mostly dependent on a good story & good actors to make a blockbuster. With CGI, good stories & actors are completely unnecessary. Michael bay is living proof of that. so if a hollywood exec has to choose between a good story that may or may not sell, or a crappy CGI flick that already sells & has a built in audience for the sequel, the decision is easy. all of the CGI movies & their sequels could not even be made before 1993.

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