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brassmonkey · 06-06-2013, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

When I watch the video it is hard for me to know how much she is really resisting them because there is no audio. She is waving one arm around, but it doesn't look like she is putting up too much of a physical fight and more like she is being annoying and yelling at them.

I can understand that the office who was handcuffing her and took her down wanted to get control of her, but at some point you have to ask yourself what level of force is adequate. Handcuffing her is fine. If she was really putting up that much of a fight why did the other cop just stand there and do nothing? He could have grabbed her other arm. The two guys could have easily taken control of her without having to use a too much force. Instead, the one cop decides to slam her face first into a desk. To me that was excessive.

The department they worked for appears to feel the same way or they wouldn't have fired these two. By firing them and dropping the charges against her they are basically admitting that they are in the wrong here.

All over $100!!! 100 mistakes!!!!

kane · 06-06-2013, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

All over $100!!! 100 mistakes!!!!

That is the biggest point for me. This entire thing went down over a $100 fine not being paid.

I understand that they want to collect fines, but there has to be a better way of going about it than arresting people.

adulttraffic · 06-06-2013, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel

I was taught that too. Then realised what a load of bollocks that is.

I guess its OK as long as you wear a white tank top while doing it?

brassmonkey · 06-06-2013, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

That is the biggest point for me. This entire thing went down over a $100 fine not being paid.

I understand that they want to collect fines, but there has to be a better way of going about it than arresting people.

visit their house or if their stopped they go to jail and get the money paid by friend or relative and go home. somehow i think it was more than just about the $100 fine.

omg!! its a tiny place!!!

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shes going after the wallet http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3383604.html

Rochard · 06-06-2013, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

When I watch the video it is hard for me to know how much she is really resisting them because there is no audio. She is waving one arm around, but it doesn't look like she is putting up too much of a physical fight and more like she is being annoying and yelling at them.

I can understand that the office who was handcuffing her and took her down wanted to get control of her, but at some point you have to ask yourself what level of force is adequate. Handcuffing her is fine. If she was really putting up that much of a fight why did the other cop just stand there and do nothing? He could have grabbed her other arm. The two guys could have easily taken control of her without having to use a too much force. Instead, the one cop decides to slam her face first into a desk. To me that was excessive.

The department they worked for appears to feel the same way or they wouldn't have fired these two. By firing them and dropping the charges against her they are basically admitting that they are in the wrong here.

It doesn't matter "how much she was resisting". When you've been arrested and you are in a police station and the police tell you they are going to put handcuffs on you or put you in a cell, you don't fucking talk back and wave your hand at them. It doesn't matter what color you are; After the fourth or fifth time the cops are going to wrestle you to the ground and use force.

kane · 06-06-2013, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

It doesn't matter "how much she was resisting". When you've been arrested and you are in a police station and the police tell you they are going to put handcuffs on you or put you in a cell, you don't fucking talk back and wave your hand at them. It doesn't matter what color you are; After the fourth or fifth time the cops are going to wrestle you to the ground and use force.

I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on this one.

Sure, a person in custody shouldn't resist and the police have a right to protect themselves and do their job, but I am a believer in the idea that the punishment must fit the crime. If she were trowing punches, kicking and really fighting them then I would have no problem with him doing what he did. It looked to me like she was talking to them and having a disagreement with them and he decided to face plant her.

I think there was likely a better way for this to have been handled.

dyna mo · 06-06-2013, 02:32 PM

i'll go ahead and say it.

coming up on someone from behind, grabbing them by the hair and smashing their face in the counter is punk ass shit you see in a yellow beer bar fight, not at the fucking police station.

it seems odd to even have this debate, the cops were fired, would the sheriff's dept offer themselves up directly to liability by firing those guys if it was not completely clear they were out of line?

hell no they would not.

JP-pornshooter · 06-06-2013, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

It doesn't matter "how much she was resisting". When you've been arrested and you are in a police station and the police tell you they are going to put handcuffs on you or put you in a cell, you don't fucking talk back and wave your hand at them. It doesn't matter what color you are; After the fourth or fifth time the cops are going to wrestle you to the ground and use force.

strongly disagree with you on this one.
what you are saying is scaring the shit out of me.

Matt 26z · 06-06-2013, 07:01 PM

Being locked up has turned into a rite of passage for many blacks. They do not fear the modern criminal justice system. If stuff like this is what it takes to bring that fear back, then so be it.

And I'm not saying that just because I'm white. If that was a punk white boy mouthing off in the lockup I still wouldn't care. I would say he is learning his lesson.

blackmonsters · 06-06-2013, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

Being locked up has turned into a rite of passage for many blacks. They do not fear the modern criminal justice system. If stuff like this is what it takes to bring that fear back, then so be it.

And I'm not saying that just because I'm white. If that was a punk white boy mouthing off in the lockup I still wouldn't care. I would say he is learning his lesson.

You know nothing about black people. Quit fooling yourself that you do.

Your attempt to cause fear in black people will most likely be met with terror.

escorpio · 06-06-2013, 09:21 PM

I lol'd when the cop went flying backwards and fell on his ass when her shoe came off as he was trying to drag her by her leg.

John-ACWM · 06-07-2013, 07:55 AM

Cops sure need to know how to handle things.

brassmonkey · 06-07-2013, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by John-ACWM

Cops sure need to know how to handle things.

they get away with a lot of this kind of stuff. there was a phoenix cop put a crack pipe on a lady as a joke he says. 1 day suspended with pay

_Richard_ · 06-07-2013, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JP-pornshooter

strongly disagree with you on this one.
what you are saying is scaring the shit out of me.

and they want more of him and less of you

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don't forget to report the child introverts!

Just Alex · 06-07-2013, 08:45 PM

Racist piece of shit purposely turns simple police brutality case it in to his usual whites beating blacks cries.

Rochard · 06-07-2013, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JP-pornshooter

strongly disagree with you on this one.
what you are saying is scaring the shit out of me.

So when a prisoner refuses to go back to to their cell... what should the police do? Keep asking nicely until they wear the prisoner down? Maybe buy her a sandwich?

When a prisoner refuses to go back to their cell or refuses to put on handcuffs or pretty much refuses anything, they get forced.

kane · 06-07-2013, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

So when a prisoner refuses to go back to to their cell... what should the police do? Keep asking nicely until they wear the prisoner down? Maybe buy her a sandwich?

When a prisoner refuses to go back to their cell or refuses to put on handcuffs or pretty much refuses anything, they get forced.

When I watch the video I see no escalation of force. He grabs one of her arms and puts a handcuff on it. She isn't pulling that arm away or fighting with him, it looks like she is arguing with the other officer. Neither of them even try to grab her free arm. They don't grab her shirt and try to press her against the wall. Instead the one cop powerslams her face first into the desk.

Now, as I have said before, you can't hear what is being said so you have to take that into consideration, but it seems to me like they could have stepped their aggression up a little bit and at least tried to grab her other arm first. If they try a few other less intense things and she still is resisting then kick it up.

EDIT: I just went back and watched the video again. Fast forward to about the 3:40 mark. She is talking/arguing with one cop. The other cop comes up behind her and grabs her left arm and handcuffs it. The first cop grabs her right arm. They have control of her. She doesn't appear to be fighting them, but she is still running her mouth. That is when the cop who has her left arm grabs her by the hair and slams her into the desk.

To me she was not a threat to them. They had her under control and the level of aggression that was used was not needed.

brassmonkey · 06-07-2013, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

When I watch the video I see no escalation of force. He grabs one of her arms and puts a handcuff on it. She isn't pulling that arm away or fighting with him, it looks like she is arguing with the other officer. Neither of them even try to grab her free arm. They don't grab her shirt and try to press her against the wall. Instead the one cop powerslams her face first into the desk.

Now, as I have said before, you can't hear what is being said so you have to take that into consideration, but it seems to me like they could have stepped their aggression up a little bit and at least tried to grab her other arm first. If they try a few other less intense things and she still is resisting then kick it up.

EDIT: I just went back and watched the video again. Fast forward to about the 3:40 mark. She is talking/arguing with one cop. The other cop comes up behind her and grabs her left arm and handcuffs it. The first cop grabs her right arm. They have control of her. She doesn't appear to be fighting them, but she is still running her mouth. That is when the cop who has her left arm grabs her by the hair and slams her into the desk.

To me she was not a threat to them. They had her under control and the level of aggression that was used was not needed.

just got off the phone with her we are getting married

j/k but the case is over. the cops being fired instead of suspended is huge for her. it didnt start till the assholes hung up the phone.

kane · 06-08-2013, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

just got off the phone with her we are getting married

j/k but the case is over. the cops being fired instead of suspended is huge for her. it didnt start till the assholes hung up the phone.

Yeah, when the department fired the cops involved that was basically them admitting guilt. They will likely settle with her out of court, but it won't be cheap.

So now the city gets the expense of hiring and potentially training two new officers and they have the expense of legal council in the lawsuit plus whatever they are going to end up paying her and all of this came about because she had an unpaid fine of $100.

CAHEK · 06-08-2013, 12:54 PM

I laughed my ass off when that stupid cop went flying!

blackmonsters · 06-08-2013, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

Racist piece of shit purposely turns simple police brutality case it in to his usual whites beating blacks cries.

Hey, shouldn't you be in the bathroom helping your wife drown the children?

brassmonkey · 06-11-2013, 10:19 AM

bump it up

brassmonkey · 06-11-2013, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CAHEK

I laughed my ass off when that stupid cop went flying!

been funny if he fell on his gun and it blew off his big toe

Just Alex · 06-11-2013, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Hey, shouldn't you be in the bathroom helping your wife drown the children?

Is this one of these ghetto/urban culture/black only/BET/EBT type of jokes? Because I didn't find it funny at all.
Monkey, did you find it funny?

blackmonsters · 06-11-2013, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

Is this one of these ghetto/urban culture/black only/BET/EBT type of jokes? Because I didn't find it funny at all.
Monkey, did you find it funny?

Yeah, I find it funny as hell that you would birth a piece garbage like yourself then fucking drown it.

Just Alex · 06-11-2013, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Yeah, I find it funny as hell that you would birth a piece garbage like yourself then fucking drown it.

How about we not?

Rochard · 06-11-2013, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

That is the biggest point for me. This entire thing went down over a $100 fine not being paid.

I understand that they want to collect fines, but there has to be a better way of going about it than arresting people.

Well, what is the better way?

I think there is a lot going on here. It's not like you get parking ticket and fail to pay it in thirty days and they knock on your door. I'm guessing it takes six months to a year, and then they issue a summons - meaning you have to appear in court. Miss court twice and then they issue a warrant for your arrest.

What else can they do? Take your driver's license away? So when you get pulled over you get yet another ticket that you won't pay? Then what?

Some people are just stupid.

blackmonsters · 06-11-2013, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Well, what is the better way?

I think there is a lot going on here. It's not like you get parking ticket and fail to pay it in thirty days and they knock on your door. I'm guessing it takes six months to a year, and then they issue a summons - meaning you have to appear in court. Miss court twice and then they issue a warrant for your arrest.

What else can they do? Take your driver's license away? So when you get pulled over you get yet another ticket that you won't pay? Then what?

Some people are just stupid.

Putting a lien on property.
Seizing state tax refunds.
Offer a payment plan if financial hardship is claimed.
Suggest companies that grant small loans for this.
Deny equal amount from any state benefit program(food stamps).
Add to property tax of home owner.
Offer community service to work off the fine.
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.
I could probably go on for a while.

brassmonkey · 06-11-2013, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Well, what is the better way?

I think there is a lot going on here. It's not like you get parking ticket and fail to pay it in thirty days and they knock on your door. I'm guessing it takes six months to a year, and then they issue a summons - meaning you have to appear in court. Miss court twice and then they issue a warrant for your arrest.

What else can they do? Take your driver's license away? So when you get pulled over you get yet another ticket that you won't pay? Then what?

Some people are just stupid.

she was getting the money from her mother. the hog hung up the phone.

kane · 06-11-2013, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Well, what is the better way?

I think there is a lot going on here. It's not like you get parking ticket and fail to pay it in thirty days and they knock on your door. I'm guessing it takes six months to a year, and then they issue a summons - meaning you have to appear in court. Miss court twice and then they issue a warrant for your arrest.

What else can they do? Take your driver's license away? So when you get pulled over you get yet another ticket that you won't pay? Then what?

Some people are just stupid.

Without knowing her personal situation in this case it is hard to say what they could differently, but businesses all over this country collect money from people who owe them all the time without arresting anyone.

There are always going to be cases where the people are just "in the system" or they know how to work the system. Maybe she is like that, but as I said, we don't know for sure.They could have done like the IRS would do and garnish her paycheck or seize her bank account or take money from a tax refund. If she doesn't have a job or a bank account it would be a lot harder.

I just think arresting someone and then ending up beating the hell out of the them over a $100 fine is ridiculous.

kane · 06-11-2013, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Putting a lien on property.
Seizing state tax refunds.
Offer a payment plan if financial hardship is claimed.
Suggest companies that grant small loans for this.
Deny equal amount from any state benefit program(food stamps).
Add to property tax of home owner.
Offer community service to work off the fine.
.
.
.
I could probably go on for a while.

These are all good options. I love the community service one the most. If you are broke and can't pay the ticket, so be it, do some kind of work and trade off. That sound fair to me.

brassmonkey · 06-16-2013, 02:38 PM

bump bump

JP-pornshooter · 06-21-2013, 10:18 AM

update:
After terminating the officers on Monday, the council requested that the pair be investigated for possible criminal charges. Bernsen said he hopes that probe is done by the FBI or state police.

“I don’t trust the Police Department as far as you can throw them,” he said.

_Richard_ · 06-21-2013, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Well, what is the better way?

I think there is a lot going on here. It's not like you get parking ticket and fail to pay it in thirty days and they knock on your door. I'm guessing it takes six months to a year, and then they issue a summons - meaning you have to appear in court. Miss court twice and then they issue a warrant for your arrest.

What else can they do? Take your driver's license away? So when you get pulled over you get yet another ticket that you won't pay? Then what?

Some people are just stupid.

what happens here.. you can't renew without paying the fines

i was under the impression police were meant to fight crime, not collect taxes

brassmonkey · 06-21-2013, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JP-pornshooter

update:
After terminating the officers on Monday, the council requested that the pair be investigated for possible criminal charges. Bernsen said he hopes that probe is done by the FBI or state police.

?I don?t trust the Police Department as far as you can throw them,? he said.

that good ole boy shit is not what people want how can you live in peace with this kind of shit?

brassmonkey · 06-24-2013, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

Thats why we call you jungle bunnies.

Racial slurs and use of racial slurs will result in a banning. Racial slurs will no longer be tolerated in any format.

you need to be banned again. you can't control yourself

brassmonkey · 06-24-2013, 11:40 AM

bump 4 banning

_Richard_ · 06-24-2013, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

bump 4 banning

ur a dreamer

brassmonkey · 06-24-2013, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

ur a dreamer

yeah you need a red nick to get people banned

i think ill just spend less time on gfy

dyna mo · 06-24-2013, 12:01 PM

did you report the post(s)?

brassmonkey · 06-24-2013, 12:19 PM

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did you report the post(s)?

email just sent

we will see

i see a few people that abuse the forum rules and nothing happens to them

Juicy D. Links · 02-29-2016, 05:23 PM

you race baiting RACIST DINDUUUUUUUUUU

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