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Old 06-11-2013, 01:39 PM   #151
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Old 06-11-2013, 02:12 PM   #152
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It would require an entire overhaul of how health care is delivered in the US, changing it from an insurance system to a true health care system.
Just a couple of decades ago we sort of had that. No it wasn't "free" or paid for with taxes.

In the 1980's you could go to the doctor. It might cost you $50. And of course for the 200 years before that in the U.S. it was very affordable to get medical care out of pocket.

In 1986 my stepson had to have his appendix removed. We paid it in cash. It was less than $4,000 for the whole thing including a 2 day hospital stay.

Then in the 1990's the govt. started getting heavily involved and I started hearing more and more about HMO's and how they would lower medical costs.

20 years later...and we have what you pointed out. A big insurance scam.

In 2010, Claudia Marie had her appendix removed. She stayed one night in the hospital. It was damn near $20,000
And of course that included stupid stuff like the $150 paper cup they gave her to drink water from to take a $70 aspirin.
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Old 06-11-2013, 03:19 PM   #153
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Reading it all, it's so good to live in the "3rd world" country, pay 6% (OMFG!) tax, have a free healthcare (even for bums) etc. I know, I'm not free because I can't carry AK47 in my pocket and KGB will kill me if I say that Putin is a piece of shit. Yeah, the oversea people have to pay a heavy price for their freedom because they can say that Obama is **** and stay alive. I envy them very much.

* crying smile *
imagine that in some countries you can bitch about your president and still get decent free health care...or cheap decent private healthcare ;-)
anyway, quoted prices for healthcare in USA are very funny for me
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Old 06-12-2013, 03:14 AM   #154
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In 2010, Claudia Marie had her appendix removed. She stayed one night in the hospital. It was damn near $20,000
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Old 06-12-2013, 06:07 AM   #155
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In 2010, Claudia Marie had her appendix removed. She stayed one night in the hospital. It was damn near $20,000
And of course that included stupid stuff like the $150 paper cup they gave her to drink water from to take a $70 aspirin.
What a crazy world
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:01 AM   #156
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In one of Michael moore's films they interview'd people that had healthcare insurance's and after her husband (that was black) got cancer he did not receive the help he actual had paid for over a 20 year period in monthly fees. The medicine that could help him was experimental but had 90% results in everyone else that had used them, so even that you pay your health insurance it is not 100% that you get help. Another scenario is where a woman crashed where another car ran into hers she was knocked out when the ambulance picked her up, the insurance company refused to pay for the ambulance cause the woman had to call a certain ambulance service. So how the hell are you going to call someone when your lights are out, to me the american healthcare is totally fucked up its all about making as much money they can on people's health.

In the Michael Moore film people that had worked for many of the biggest insurance companies came out and told on camera how it worked, lets say you need to use the insurance there is a guy that sit and dig in your personal life trying to find a loophole so the insurance company don't have to pay for your illness.

American healtcare is FUBAR
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:07 AM   #157
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no interest in getting into any kind of arguement but i just want to say insurance industry just doesn't work with health care. Its their job to deny you, its their job to make sure they make the most money possible from you. of course doctors and health care workers need to earn a good wage but a for profit health care system goes against the very essence of what health care should be.
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:41 AM   #158
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in Canada we have an amazing health care system for the most part. what we don't have is a music scene anymore. happy to trade...
Wrong Canada does not have an amazing health care, it is "okay" and I'm in Quebec right now it definitely sucks here for Health Care if you are not a resident of this province.
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:49 AM   #159
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In one of Michael moore's films they interview'd people that had healthcare insurance's and after her husband (that was black) got cancer he did not receive the help he actual had paid for over a 20 year period in monthly fees. The medicine that could help him was experimental but had 90% results in everyone else that had used them, so even that you pay your health insurance it is not 100% that you get help. Another scenario is where a woman crashed where another car ran into hers she was knocked out when the ambulance picked her up, the insurance company refused to pay for the ambulance cause the woman had to call a certain ambulance service. So how the hell are you going to call someone when your lights are out, to me the american healthcare is totally fucked up its all about making as much money they can on people's health.

In the Michael Moore film people that had worked for many of the biggest insurance companies came out and told on camera how it worked, lets say you need to use the insurance there is a guy that sit and dig in your personal life trying to find a loophole so the insurance company don't have to pay for your illness.

American healtcare is FUBAR


typical.
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:53 AM   #160
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Wrong Canada does not have an amazing health care, it is "okay" and I'm in Quebec right now it definitely sucks here for Health Care if you are not a resident of this province.
i found quebec's health care worse than ontario. longer wait times in the emergency room. they don't have walk in clinics and apparently not enough ambulances as they are always calling ottawa's for help.
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