I have to hand it to some of these POV shooters

[CDSmith]

It's about time some of these POV shooters out there get a kudos of some kind. At least the ones who are shooting it well that is. Not all are. But to be able with camera in hand to catch all the angles, being mindful of and working the light in the room, keeping in mind what other positions they need to get to, and keeping on top of any one of a hundred other things that can and do go wrong, all the while keeping it up and focusing enough on the fucking so it stays hard?

These guys are like sex jugglers. :D


Some of it is of course quite bad. But for the few who are consistantly cranking out quality POV that actually sells, it's about time you were acknowledged.


Sorry, no samples. But all sorts of POV stuff is easily found on pretty much any of the big tubes. But then again anyone who actually knows their way around this business won't need samples, or names for that matter. They just know. But feel free to post whatever POV you want, if you think it qualifies.

[Harmon]

Yes, it's hard to keep guy's dicks hard when they are watching people getting fucked.

Thank god for the "angles" and the "focus"

[paffie]

I love povcentral.com... Been An affiliate for a while, and Enzo's stuff sells well!

[CDSmith]

Originally Posted by Harmon

Yes, it's hard to keep guy's dicks hard when they are watching people getting fucked.

Thank god for the "angles" and the "focus"

Yeah in case some of you don't know, POV guys mostly work alone, they have no 3rd party camera guy working the "angles" and watching. They're doing or keeping track of three or four things at once, all the while fucking.

Again, those that know know.

[ReggieDurango]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

It's about time some of these POV shooters out there get a kudos of some kind. At least the ones who are shooting it well that is. Not all are. But to be able with camera in hand to catch all the angles, being mindful of and working the light in the room, keeping in mind what other positions they need to get to, and keeping on top of any one of a hundred other things that can and do go wrong, all the while keeping it up and focusing enough on the fucking so it stays hard?

These guys are like sex jugglers. :D


Some of it is of course quite bad. But for the few who are consistantly cranking out quality POV that actually sells, it's about time you were acknowledged.


Sorry, no samples. But all sorts of POV stuff is easily found on pretty much any of the big tubes. But then again anyone who actually knows their way around this business won't need samples, or names for that matter. They just know. But feel free to post whatever POV you want, if you think it qualifies.

I love this thread!
I shoot HDPOV.com

[Harmon]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Yeah in case some of you don't know, POV guys mostly work alone, they have no 3rd party camera guy working the "angles" and watching. They're doing or keeping track of three or four things at once, all the while fucking.

Again, those that know know.

You may have appreciation, but unless you've done it? It's not hard. Maybe you have issues.

lol@ you suggesting

[CDSmith]

Originally Posted by ReggieDurango

I love this thread!
I shoot HDPOV.com

Feel free to post samples.

[CDSmith]

Originally Posted by Harmon

You may have appreciation, but unless you've done it? It's not hard. Maybe you have issues.

lol@ you suggesting

I know from well over 10 years of promoting it, evaluating it for TGP's, MGP's, etc, having poured over literally thousands upon thousands of such scenes during those years I was doing that. You don't have to actually do it to know that when it's done right it's actually quite incredible, and when it's done badly it's so often downright unwatchable.

And I'm sure for the really good shooters it actually probably is quite easy. I don't know. What I do know is that there are a lot of guys out there who can barely manage adequate fucking, let alone working a camera et al.

If you have a clue, why not post your stuff? Your smiley-laffies only get you so far dude.

[NaughtyRob]

Thanks! It does take practice....
I tried to have one of the male talent that I use try it and he just can't do it.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

ADG

[ReggieDurango]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Feel free to post samples.

HDPOV.com IS the samples.
Site has not launched yet, but 90 second scenes trailers are definitely there for "consumption"

[Harmon]

Originally Posted by ReggieDurango

HDPOV.com IS the samples.
Site has not launched yet, but 90 second scenes trailers are definitely there for "consumption"

The meth is STRONG with these posts

[ReggieDurango]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Pour moi?

[fitzmulti]

Great thread topic! Thanks!
I agree...it's not something that "everyone" can do, or has a knack for.
As Rob said above, one of the male talents that Rob & I have shot, and another one we shoot sometimes that just came to mind, can't do it at all.

Since I do it all the time, and right from "day one", it seems natural.
I like doing my shoots that way, and as stated above, since there's not "a bunch of people in the room", it makes it easier for me to not be distracted, and frankly, a more one on one setting works better for my style of shooting.

[ReggieDurango]

Originally Posted by Harmon

The meth is STRONG with these posts

Hi Harmon, how do you figure?

[Jim_Gunn]

Originally Posted by ReggieDurango

HDPOV.com IS the samples.
Site has not launched yet, but 90 second scenes trailers are definitely there for "consumption"

Curious, is there a reason why all those POV scenes are shot at night outside or in rooms with dark un-lit backgrounds? Just seems like an odd stylistic choice to make for every scene on the tour.

[Harmon]

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

Curious, is there a reason why all those POV scenes are shot at night outside or in rooms with dark un-lit backgrounds? Just seems like an odd stylistic choice to make for every scene on the tour.

Jim Gunn has spoken

[ReggieDurango]

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

Curious, is there a reason why all those POV scenes are shot at night outside or in rooms with dark un-lit backgrounds? Just seems like an odd stylistic choice to make for every scene on the tour.

Well since that is the stylistic look of the entire site, I felt it appropriate to show proper samples of the content that users will be getting if they sign up. Literally every scene on the site will be shot with that style: ring light on the camera and one light on the side.

[slapass]

I get what you mean. The style does nothing for me because of how awkward it normally looks.

[Jim_Gunn]

Originally Posted by ReggieDurango

Well since that is the stylistic look of the entire site, I felt it appropriate to show proper samples of the content that users will be getting if they sign up. Literally every scene on the site will be shot with that style: ring light on the camera and one light on the side.

Well, you've answered the question quite literally so I can't fault you for that. I suppose you could even take it one step further if pressed and say that's what the specs said or that's what client wanted if that's the case, which would seem odd to me. But it still begs the question- why? Why did anyone make that choice instead of say, a mix of different lighting scenarios to feature on the tour such as a few bright daylight scenes, some indoors under daylight or mixed lighting, some at twilight, one or two in the relative dark etc. Something about the sameness of those dark scenes just seems kind of claustrophobic to me or something and not even in a moody purposefully done way. I'm not saying the sex action is bad. Just the repeated dark backgrounds look unusual to me. Just my opinion.

[CDSmith]

Originally Posted by NaughtyRob

Thanks! It does take practice....
I tried to have one of the male talent that I use try it and he just can't do it.

Originally Posted by fitzmulti

I agree...it's not something that "everyone" can do, or has a knack for.
As Rob said above, one of the male talents that Rob & I have shot, and another one we shoot sometimes that just came to mind, can't do it at all.

Interesting. Our friend Harmon seems to think that's worth laughing at.

Hopefully this clues him in, but somehow I kind of doubt it will.

[Lace]

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

Well, you've answered the question quite literally so I can't fault you for that. I suppose you could even take it one step further if pressed and say that's what the specs said or that's what client wanted if that's the case, which would seem odd to me. But it still begs the question- why? Why did anyone make that choice instead of say, a mix of different lighting scenarios to feature on the tour such as a few bright daylight scenes, some indoors under daylight or mixed lighting, some at twilight, one or two in the relative dark etc. Something about the sameness of those dark scenes just seems kind of claustrophobic to me or something and not even in a moody purposefully done way. I'm not saying the sex action is bad. Just the repeated dark backgrounds look unusual to me. Just my opinion.

I have to agree with you here. I'd stick to natural light any day over strobes, ring lights, etc. Looks like it was shot by a first timer with their new slr with the flash on.

Not saying it's bad, just not my style.

[ReggieDurango]

Originally Posted by Lace

I have to agree with you here. I'd stick to natural light any day over strobes, ring lights, etc. Looks like it was shot by a first timer with their new slr with the flash on.

Not saying it's bad, just not my style.

Strobes??? Huh? I thought we were talking about video not Stills.
Jim,, I am the one that made the decision and developed the look for the video content on the site. In fact I developed this look a few years ago for erospov.com

[fitzmulti]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Interesting. Our friend Harmon seems to think that's worth laughing at.

Hopefully this clues him in, but somehow I kind of doubt it will.

Like Molly Hatchett says in "Flirtin' With Disaster"...
"It ain't for everybody"...

All I know is, that it works for me and I have a TON of my own DVDs with it on VOD sites, my own websites, etc...and people like 'em!
;-)
*note my avatar here, too! <<~~~~~~~~~~

[CDSmith]

Originally Posted by fitzmulti

Like Molly Hatchett says in "Flirtin' With Disaster"...
"It ain't for everybody"...

All I know is, that it works for me and I have a TON of my own DVDs with it on VOD sites, my own websites, etc...and people like 'em!
;-)
*note my avatar here, too! <<~~~~~~~~~~

Truthfully, POV was never my favorite style, from a viewer's point of view of course. The webmaster in me however has always known of it's marketable value. I just never got into it much personally. But I've come to realize over the years since it first became popular that when it's done by someone who knows what he's doing it can be downright incredible.

I think what likely put me off was all the really BAD pov that's been floating around since post-2000. Grainy, poor lighting, horrible camera angles, poorly executed sex even. If the chemistry is off with any of that in fact it becomes a train wreck.

[Lace]

Originally Posted by ReggieDurango

Strobes??? Huh? I thought we were talking about video not Stills.
Jim,, I am the one that made the decision and developed the look for the video content on the site. In fact I developed this look a few years ago for erospov.com

Just giving overall examples. I think XArt's style is by far the best. All natural. Just my opinion though

[fitzmulti]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Truthfully, POV was never my favorite style, from a viewer's point of view of course. The webmaster in me however has always known of it's marketable value. I just never got into it much personally. But I've come to realize over the years since it first became popular that when it's done by someone who knows what he's doing it can be downright incredible.

I think what likely put me off was all the really BAD pov that's been floating around since post-2000. Grainy, poor lighting, horrible camera angles, poorly executed sex even. If the chemistry is off with any of that in fact it becomes a train wreck.

Ya...with the sudden influx in the early 2000's of "anyone can snag a video camera @ Best Buy and do POV"...web camming from home, etc...w/o the right tools/lighting, or some sort of photo/video shooting background, it can get sloppy.
Although, I must admit, sometimes I have done that intentionally...but not usually.
And I do realize some folks do that intentionally, as well...but you can tell those instances, from people who just don't know what they are doing.

[Peace]

Very interesting one.....

[bronco67]

I like POV as long as you can see almost the whole girl sometimes. Too close does nothing for me.

[adendreams]

The unsung hung heros thank you

[amacontent]

Ive been doing it for 12 years just did one today with Misty Stone,. Im hardky the most endowed in the biz but ive sold over 100,000 pov clips over 12 years so something must be working

[fitzmulti]

Originally Posted by amacontent

Ive been doing it for 12 years just did one today with Misty Stone,. Im hardky the most endowed in the biz but ive sold over 100,000 pov clips over 12 years so something must be working

Your stuff is good, that's why!

[CDSmith]

Glad to see a few of the shooters I had in mind when I made this thread posting.

:D

[ReggieDurango]

Bump for glorious POV

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

Curious, is there a reason why all those POV scenes are shot at night outside or in rooms with dark un-lit backgrounds? Just seems like an odd stylistic choice to make for every scene on the tour.

Obviously someone has a day job.

[amacontent]

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

Just the repeated dark backgrounds look unusual to me. Just my opinion.

To tell you the truth Jimmy do you honestly think the guy jerking off actually cares if a chair in the backround is lit properly. As long as the girl is hot and on the end of a cock that's all that matters in POV. Your content is off the wall awesome..BUT backround doesn't matter at all in POV. POV is POINT of VIEW When youre getting a blowjob off camera..are u looking at the girl or the chair in the backround?

[CDSmith]

Originally Posted by amacontent

To tell you the truth Jimmy do you honestly think the guy jerking off actually cares if a chair in the backround is lit properly. As long as the girl is hot and on the end of a cock that's all that matters in POV. Your content is off the wall awesome..BUT backround doesn't matter at all in POV. POV is POINT of VIEW When youre getting a blowjob off camera..are u looking at the girl or the chair in the backround?

I think his main point on that might be that when some of those little insignificant details are taken care of it takes the scene to a whole other level for the viewer. Not unlike eating in a restaurant that serves up mediocre food. You might not complain, you might enjoy the food there time and time again for years. But once they overhaul the menu and hire a new chef and you get served world class cuissine, then you realize what you've been missing all these years.

Details baby. Details.



Sorry, I just watched three episodes of Kitchen Nightmares :D

[oppoten]

It ain't sexy. Too much dude.

But the HD stuff does look pretty good

[Jim_Gunn]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Obviously someone has a day job.

LOL, that thought occurred to me as well, but since I very rarely comment on anybody else's content I figure there's no need to wind the guy up more than I already did.

[ReggieDurango]

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

LOL, that thought occurred to me as well, but since I very rarely comment on anybody else's content I figure there's no need to wind the guy up more than I already did.

Excuse me? I don't really think that I got wound up at all. I was simply answering your questions in a cordial way. Do you have any more questions Or comments about my content on HDPOV.com or on erospov.com?

[Jim_Gunn]

Originally Posted by ReggieDurango

Excuse me? I don't really think that I got wound up at all. I was simply answering your questions in a cordial way. Do you have any more questions Or comments about my content on HDPOV.com or on erospov.com?

Actually you did make a reasonable reply so no harm, no foul. I already put my two cents in which is more than I usually do, so carry on.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

Actually you did make a reasonable reply so no harm, no foul. I already put my two cents in which is more than I usually do, so carry on.