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Old 08-01-2013, 07:48 AM   #1
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Ted Nugent comments on Zimmerman Case

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Ted Nugent Calls President Obama And Attorney General Eric Holder Racist




By Emily Smith, Tue, July 30, 2013
Ted Nugent called himself the “antithesis” of a racist in his regular column on Rare recently, writing instead that President Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder are the real racists.

Nugent wrote that by denying the findings of the FBI, Department of Justice and an entire Florida state investigation regarding the Zimmerman trial, both the Attorney General and President made a judgment based on race and not content of character.

In past writings, however, Nugent called Trayvon Martin a “dope smoking, racist gangsta wannabe” and an “enraged black man-child.” His accusations against the President and Attorney General are considerably hypocritical considering the epithets he gave Martin based on race.

The Inquisitir pointed out Nugent’s comments were exceptionally offensive, given they were directed at a dead underage boy.

Nugent continued to comment on Jesse Jackson, Louis Farrakhan, Al Sharpton and other black panthers calling them “racist scam masters” and their followers “stupid.”

Nugent has been under fire since the Zimmerman case for making a handful of racist comments about the African-American community, and some have called for his resignation from the NRA Board of Directors.

The singer’s article went on to describe the many disappointing qualities America is now associated with, like the food stamp “scam” and gun-free “slaughter zones."
I wish he would just shut the fuck up.
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I wish he would just shut the fuck up.
so you start a thread quoting the guy you wish woud shut up.
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so you start a thread quoting the guy you wish woud shut up.
makes perfect sense to me, BTW Prince... what are the racist comments supposedly made?
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Nugent is a fucking nut.
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I wish he would just shut the fuck up.
Of course you do. You're Canadian. I can understand why its important to you that an over the hill US, rock star not speak.

Don't you fucking Cunucks have anything Canadian to talk about ??? Ever?
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Man, you sure called that one....

Born in Detroit and lived most of his life in Detroit and Chicago, spent a lot of time in L.A., and has traveled all over the world for decades throughout his career.....


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I wish he would just shut the fuck up.
Like you care what we wish?
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Nugent is absolutely retarded.
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"denying the findings of the FBI, Department of Justice and an entire Florida state investigation regarding the Zimmerman trial, both the Attorney General and President made a judgment based on race"
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"denying the findings of the FBI, Department of Justice and an entire Florida state investigation regarding the Zimmerman trial, both the Attorney General and President made a judgment based on race"
Pretty much exactly correct, actually.




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Ted Nugent, the self admitted pedophile who shit his pants multiple times and walked around that way for a month to get out of fighting for the country is now is the hero of right wing.

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makes perfect sense to me, BTW Prince... what are the racist comments supposedly made?
it makes sense to you that someone who *wishes* nugent to shut-up would start a thread about what the guy says and provide link juice to the article with a link?

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shit i stumbled into another redneck rally. does david duke post here
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The whole shitstorm started when they didn't even think it was worth looking into. Then the community of the killed person got pissed and made noise. People will just have to get over it one at a time in their own good time.

There was nothing racist about it. You don't have to hate someone to blow a hole in their chest with a hollow point bullet. You don't have to dislike them, you don't even have to have eyeballs to know what race they are. You can just extend your arm straight out and pull the trigger and they die. That's what this case was about more than race.

I saw Nugent back in the 70's when he was promoting cats can haz scratching fever. Since then he hasn't had much worth listening to and we all know it but don't all admit it.
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The whole shitstorm started when they didn't even think it was worth looking into. Then the community of the killed person got pissed and made noise. People will just have to get over it one at a time in their own good time.

There was nothing racist about it. You don't have to hate someone to blow a hole in their chest with a hollow point bullet. You don't have to dislike them, you don't even have to have eyeballs to know what race they are. You can just extend your arm straight out and pull the trigger and they die. That's what this case was about more than race.

I saw Nugent back in the 70's when he was promoting cats can haz scratching fever. Since then he hasn't had much worth listening to and we all know it but don't all admit it.
i know some people that go to laugh at him. he was here late last year they went got drunk fell asleep and left the concert before it was over.
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The whole shitstorm started when they didn't even think it was worth looking into
Wrong about everything as usual. It was fully investigated and it was determined as the trial showed that there was insufficient evidence to charge Zimmerman.

How fucking nutty are you people that facts just aren't important?
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Wrong about everything as usual. It was fully investigated and it was determined as the trial showed that there was insufficient evidence to charge Zimmerman.

How fucking nutty are you people that facts just aren't important?
Initially he was not charged and they had to turn the department over after the community outrage to bring charges. The charges were brought because there was sufficient evidence to proceed. Where have you been? For emphasis: The charges were brought because there was sufficient evidence to proceed.

Try getting over it for once.
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The whole shitstorm started when they didn't even think it was worth looking into.
Bullshit; it was investigated and found to be no crime . . . kind of like what the jury said. Dumb ass.

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i know some people that go to laugh at him. he was here late last year they went got drunk fell asleep and left the concert before it was over.
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Initially he was not charged and they had to turn the department over after the community outrage to bring charges. The charges were brought because there was sufficient evidence to proceed. Where have you been? For emphasis: The charges were brought because there was sufficient evidence to proceed.

Try getting over it for once.
You are lying. Detectives fully investigated and eventually even the state attorney generals office got involved and found there was not enough evidence to prosecute. It was the governor that appointed a special investigator and circumvented a normal process of giving what limiter incidence there was to a grand jury to determine if there was enough evidence or not and then forced them to file murder 2 charges.

You live in a fantasy world full of fantasy facts driven by emotion. That's why you are poor and posing as a PimpRoll employee.

All you are doing is parroting a completely false and intellectually dishonest narrative said over and over by grievance pimps like Al Sharpton et al.

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it makes sense to you that someone who *wishes* nugent to shut-up would start a thread about what the guy says and provide link juice to the article with a link?

of course.... drama!!!! self identity!!!! community polarization... !!!!! and to show just how enlightened the guy is!!!! THAT'S WHY I POST CARS.. I HATE MOTHERFUCKING CARS :
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only the black racist community post here
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of course.... drama!!!! self identity!!!! community polarization... !!!!! and to show just how enlightened the guy is!!!! THAT'S WHY I POST CARS.. I HATE MOTHERFUCKING CARS :
crap, right over my head. !

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The funny thing is this guy said this almost 100 years ago....

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The funny thing is this guy said this almost 100 years ago....

[INDENT][I]?There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs ? partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.?
Wow, and he died in 1915!

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If we put ourselves into the shoes of racists who seek to sabotage black upward mobility, we couldn?t develop a more effective agenda than that followed by civil rights organizations, black politicians, academics, liberals and the news media. Let?s look at it.

First, weaken the black family, but don?t blame it on individual choices. You have to preach that today?s weak black family is a legacy of slavery, Jim Crow and racism. The truth is that black female-headed households were just 18 percent of households in 1950, as opposed to about 68 percent today. In fact, from 1890 to 1940, the black marriage rate was slightly higher than that of whites. Even during slavery, when marriage was forbidden for blacks, most black children lived in biological two-parent families. In New York City, in 1925, 85 percent of black households were two-parent households. A study of 1880 family structure in Philadelphia shows that three-quarters of black families were two-parent households.

During the 1960s, devastating nonsense emerged, exemplified by a Johns Hopkins University sociology professor who argued, ?It has yet to be shown that the absence of a father was directly responsible for any of the supposed deficiencies of broken homes.? The real issue, he went on to say, ?is not the lack of male presence but the lack of male income.? That suggests marriage and fatherhood can be replaced by a welfare check.

The poverty rate among blacks is 36 percent. Most black poverty is found in female-headed households. The poverty rate among black married couples has been in single digits since 1994 and is about 8 percent today. The black illegitimacy rate is 75 percent, and in some cities, it?s 90 percent. But if that?s a legacy of slavery, it must have skipped several generations, because in the 1940s, unwed births hovered around 14 percent.

Along with the decline of the black family comes anti-social behavior, manifested by high crime rates. Each year, roughly 7,000 blacks are murdered. Ninety-four percent of the time, the murderer is another black person.

There?s an organization called NeighborhoodScout. Using 2011 population data from the U.S. Census Bureau, 2011 crime statistics from the FBI and information from 17,000 local law enforcement agencies in the country, it came up with a report titled ?Top 25 Most Dangerous Neighborhoods in America.? (http://tinyurl.com/cdqrev4) They include neighborhoods in Detroit, Chicago, Houston, St. Louis and other major cities. What?s common to all 25 neighborhoods is that their makeup is described as ?Black? or ?Mostly Black.? The high crime rates have several outcomes that are not in the best interests of the overwhelmingly law-abiding people in these neighborhoods. There can?t be much economic development. Property has a lower value, but worst of all, people can?t live with the kind of personal security that most Americans enjoy.According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, between 1976 and 2011, there were 279,384 black murder victims. Using the 94 percent figure means that 262,621 were murdered by other blacks. Though blacks are 13 percent of the nation?s population, they account for more than 50 percent of homicide victims. Nationally, the black homicide victimization rate is six times that of whites, and in some cities, it?s 22 times that of whites. I?d like for the president, the civil rights establishment, white liberals and the news media, who spent massive resources protesting the George Zimmerman trial?s verdict, to tell the nation whether they believe that the major murder problem blacks face is murder by whites. There are no such protests against the thousands of black murders.

Disgustingly, black politicians, civil rights leaders, liberals and the president are talking nonsense about ?having a conversation about race.? That?s beyond useless. Tell me how a conversation with white people is going to stop black predators from preying on blacks. How is such a conversation going to eliminate the 75 percent illegitimacy rate? What will such a conversation do about the breakdown of the black family (though ?breakdown? is not the correct word, as the family doesn?t form in the first place)? Only black people can solve our problems."






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Why aren't people debating this?
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The poverty rate among blacks is 36 percent. Most black poverty is found in female-headed households. The poverty rate among black married couples has been in single digits since 1994 and is about 8 percent today. The black illegitimacy rate is 75 percent, and in some cities, it’s 90 percent. But if that’s a legacy of slavery, it must have skipped several generations, because in the 1940s, unwed births hovered around 14 percent.


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Yeah... imagine that. When we had a society where people expected more from others, expected them to be polite, courteous, to be good parents, to stay married, to follow the law, to be good citizens, to go to church, to help others, to emphasize education, to be respectable and so on.. people acted accordingly. Remove all that and communities implode.

Then we went from a full disintegration of values in the black community as well as that of the family unit starting in the 60s forward to the full blown worshipping of stupidity and continuance of the grievance industry which would still have you believe things have never been worse and people have never been more racist than at any other point in history.

BTW... anyone remember the 80s, when a successful black man was called a "sellout" by other blacks?
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Because only an idiot thinks banging teens makes one a pedophile?
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You are lying. Detectives fully investigated and eventually even the state attorney generals office got involved and found there was not enough evidence to prosecute. It was the governor that appointed a special investigator and circumvented a normal process of giving what limiter incidence there was to a grand jury to determine if there was enough evidence or not and then forced them to file murder 2 charges.

You live in a fantasy world full of fantasy facts driven by emotion. That's why you are poor and posing as a PimpRoll employee.

All you are doing is parroting a completely false and intellectually dishonest narrative said over and over by grievance pimps like Al Sharpton et al.
Nah, I don't and I'm not going to waste time on your troll attempts. Anyone can look this shit up. Remember: truth doesn't require believers.
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Old 08-01-2013, 10:58 AM   #36
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Bullshit; it was investigated and found to be no crime . . . kind of like what the jury said. Dumb ass.



Well.. double dumb ass on you.


That's about what that was worth.
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You guys are wasting your breath talking about race and this case. Race had NOTHING to do with this case. How many times do people have to drill that into you folks? The one guy blew away the other guy who was making him fear for his life. Viola! No race.

Shit stirring and race baiting is pretty shameful.
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Nah, I don't and I'm not going to waste time on your troll attempts. Anyone can look this shit up. Remember: truth doesn't require believers.
What truth moron? The facts are not disputable. They are not only out there but evidence in the court case.

You're fucking wrong about everything and you began with a flat out lie that "no one was interested" when FROM THE START, the FBI, multiple detectives, police chief and state attorney generals office had already investigated weighed the facts and evidence and found there was insufficient evidence to press charges.

Citing facts is not "trolling". Although I understand you avoid facts like gainful employment and its wildly uncomfortable for you.
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Nah, I don't and I'm not going to waste time on your troll attempts. Anyone can look this shit up. Remember: truth doesn't require believers.
The fired police chief stated he swore to uphold Florida law when he took office and under Florida law there was nothing to charge Zimmerman with. Blacks raise hell, he gets fired, a black police chief is instilled in his place.

Then a Florida jury finds Zimmerman is indeed not guilty under Florida law. Fired police chief was correct.

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The fired police chief stated he swore to uphold Florida law when he took office and under Florida law there was nothing to charge Zimmerman with. Blacks raise hell, he gets fired, a black police chief is instilled in his place.

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That's not racism. That's Justice.
You're not paying attention. Revenge/retribution is "justice", not an arrest, being charged with murder and being tried by a jury of ones peers.
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That's not racism. That's Justice.
Actually that's not justice either … that's the law.

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You guys are wasting your breath talking about race and this case. Race had NOTHING to do with this case. How many times do people have to drill that into you folks? The one guy blew away the other guy who was making him fear for his life. Viola! No race.

Shit stirring and race baiting is pretty shameful.
So if Trayvon was white and not wearing a hoodie, Zimmerman would have followed him? Don't kid yourself.

Also, if Zimmerman was black and Trayvon was white, would it still not be about race in your eyes?

....and Ted Nugent is an ignorant asshole.
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By Walter E. Williams



If we put ourselves into the shoes of racists who seek to sabotage black upward mobility, we couldn?t develop a more effective agenda than that followed by civil rights organizations, black politicians, academics, liberals and the news media. Let?s look at it.

First, weaken the black family, but don?t blame it on individual choices. You have to preach that today?s weak black family is a legacy of slavery, Jim Crow and racism. The truth is that black female-headed households were just 18 percent of households in 1950, as opposed to about 68 percent today. In fact, from 1890 to 1940, the black marriage rate was slightly higher than that of whites. Even during slavery, when marriage was forbidden for blacks, most black children lived in biological two-parent families. In New York City, in 1925, 85 percent of black households were two-parent households. A study of 1880 family structure in Philadelphia shows that three-quarters of black families were two-parent households.

During the 1960s, devastating nonsense emerged, exemplified by a Johns Hopkins University sociology professor who argued, ?It has yet to be shown that the absence of a father was directly responsible for any of the supposed deficiencies of broken homes.? The real issue, he went on to say, ?is not the lack of male presence but the lack of male income.? That suggests marriage and fatherhood can be replaced by a welfare check.

The poverty rate among blacks is 36 percent. Most black poverty is found in female-headed households. The poverty rate among black married couples has been in single digits since 1994 and is about 8 percent today. The black illegitimacy rate is 75 percent, and in some cities, it?s 90 percent. But if that?s a legacy of slavery, it must have skipped several generations, because in the 1940s, unwed births hovered around 14 percent.

Along with the decline of the black family comes anti-social behavior, manifested by high crime rates. Each year, roughly 7,000 blacks are murdered. Ninety-four percent of the time, the murderer is another black person.

There?s an organization called NeighborhoodScout. Using 2011 population data from the U.S. Census Bureau, 2011 crime statistics from the FBI and information from 17,000 local law enforcement agencies in the country, it came up with a report titled ?Top 25 Most Dangerous Neighborhoods in America.? (http://tinyurl.com/cdqrev4) They include neighborhoods in Detroit, Chicago, Houston, St. Louis and other major cities. What?s common to all 25 neighborhoods is that their makeup is described as ?Black? or ?Mostly Black.? The high crime rates have several outcomes that are not in the best interests of the overwhelmingly law-abiding people in these neighborhoods. There can?t be much economic development. Property has a lower value, but worst of all, people can?t live with the kind of personal security that most Americans enjoy.According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, between 1976 and 2011, there were 279,384 black murder victims. Using the 94 percent figure means that 262,621 were murdered by other blacks. Though blacks are 13 percent of the nation?s population, they account for more than 50 percent of homicide victims. Nationally, the black homicide victimization rate is six times that of whites, and in some cities, it?s 22 times that of whites. I?d like for the president, the civil rights establishment, white liberals and the news media, who spent massive resources protesting the George Zimmerman trial?s verdict, to tell the nation whether they believe that the major murder problem blacks face is murder by whites. There are no such protests against the thousands of black murders.

Disgustingly, black politicians, civil rights leaders, liberals and the president are talking nonsense about ?having a conversation about race.? That?s beyond useless. Tell me how a conversation with white people is going to stop black predators from preying on blacks. How is such a conversation going to eliminate the 75 percent illegitimacy rate? What will such a conversation do about the breakdown of the black family (though ?breakdown? is not the correct word, as the family doesn?t form in the first place)? Only black people can solve our problems."






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So if Trayvon was white and not wearing a hoodie, Zimmerman would have followed him? Don't kid yourself.

Also, if Zimmerman was black and Trayvon was white, would it still not be about race in your eyes?

....and Ted Nugent is an ignorant asshole.
maybe if trayvon had been doing his homework??? just sayin'...... you know?
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So if Trayvon was white and not wearing a hoodie, Zimmerman would have followed him? Don't kid yourself.

Also, if Zimmerman was black and Trayvon was white, would it still not be about race in your eyes?

....and Ted Nugent is an ignorant asshole.
White people did not commit 10 burglaries in Zimmerman's neighborhood. He had reason to believe this could have been #11.
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Terrible Ted should have been a politician,he's quite the outspoken character
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So if Trayvon was white and not wearing a hoodie, Zimmerman would have followed him?
Probably not. But the current black culture has done an excellent job of portraying their young men as "nigga be gang-sta as fuck" … And gangsta's get followed.


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