Is Zishy Zach a Photographic Genius? - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

SilentKnight · 08-10-2013, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

The best artists a drawn towards pushing the limits

You've got to be fuckin' kidding, right?

Best-In-BC · 08-10-2013, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

You've got to be fuckin' kidding, right?

I hope soo

wehateporn · 08-10-2013, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

You've got to be fuckin' kidding, right?

It's a fact though

SilentKnight · 08-10-2013, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

It's a fact though

So you're defending someone's lack of respect for a veteran grave as just "pushing the envelope'?

Impressive.

wehateporn · 08-10-2013, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

So you're defending someone's lack of respect for a veteran grave as just "pushing the envelope'?

Impressive.

I wasn't defending or criticizing, but rather making the observation that many of the great artists are known for this

livexxx · 08-10-2013, 06:32 PM

Is he Czech? Looks like that kind of 'style'

SilentKnight · 08-10-2013, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

I wasn't defending or criticizing, but rather making the observation that many of the great artists are known for this

Ah, I see.

Name me another "great artist" known for disrespecting the gravesite of military veterans.

wehateporn · 08-10-2013, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Ah, I see.

Name me another "great artist" known for disrespecting the gravesite of military veterans.

I thought you knew this didn't work on me? Nice try anyway

NaughtyRob · 08-11-2013, 10:05 AM

He's definitely better than run of the mill. He does great NN tease work.

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looks ok but i see nothing to put him in the Dean Cature/Ken Marcus/Steven Hicks/Holly Randall category

just run of the mill photography there

JP-pornshooter · 08-12-2013, 12:04 PM

i didnt say he was a photographer for digital desire, just that he worked for them.
think he did mostly computer work, web related...

his style is really nice, and i have never seen him hit on the models, but he will ask if they mind shooting non nude with him and i think for the most part the girls dig it.
definitively potential but he doesnt like hardcore styles - soft nude i think is where he is comfortable.

Captain Kawaii · 08-12-2013, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

I wasn't defending or criticizing, but rather making the observation that many of the great artists are known for this

Zishy is mediocre at best.

Gator · 08-12-2013, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmycastor

i agree hes a great photographer and he should raise his price to 29,95 month, that low price is the only thing that keeps me away from pushing it and im sure this stuff sells nice , compared to lots of crap content that is floating arround and constantly spammed in here...

but i guess hes clever, hes collecting a big growing paid memberbase and will bank out on another occasion.
and why not , talent should be rewarded...good luck to him

I don't know how well the site would sell at $30/month for what is being offered. I think it does good now because the price is more than fair.

Gator · 08-12-2013, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Seth Manson

he should be a little more respectful

I agree. That is f'd up.

potter · 08-12-2013, 01:59 PM

He's got the right price point. It's funny how over-priced so many adult sites are. More companies would make a killing if they switched to something more like what this guy is doing.

$20/30/40 a month for a subscription to an adult site? LOL It's just so absurd.

Pseudonymous · 08-12-2013, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by potter

He's got the right price point. It's funny how over-priced so many adult sites are. More companies would make a killing if they switched to something more like what this guy is doing.

$20/30/40 a month for a subscription to an adult site? LOL It's just so absurd.

Yes its a bit absurd but youre wrong about the first part. Most paysite owners have tried both ways. There is a reason why its remained 20-40

potter · 08-12-2013, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pseudonymous

Yes its a bit absurd but youre wrong about the first part. Most paysite owners have tried both ways. There is a reason why its remained 20-40

It's sad to see an entire industry almost work together to actually try and narrow their customer base.

If you were to go to any other industry, they'd be sitting there thinking "How can we make our product cheaper, and get it into the hands of more people". Then you'd go over to adult and you'd see a paysite owner trying to figure out how high he could possibly price his site, and coming up with ways that are essentially narrowing the customer base.

Very, very sad... But hey, whatever you need to say to convince yourself to keep your 20 year old pricing structure.

Sly · 08-12-2013, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by potter

He's got the right price point. It's funny how over-priced so many adult sites are. More companies would make a killing if they switched to something more like what this guy is doing.

$20/30/40 a month for a subscription to an adult site? LOL It's just so absurd.

You're incorrect. Cut your price in half and you almost have to triple your sales/subscriber base just to make up the difference in revenue after configuring processing and other support related expenses, that is not even counting the additional cost of acquiring more members.

The $10 model has been tried and tried and tried again. It disappears quickly for a reason.

_Richard_ · 08-12-2013, 02:44 PM

waittttaaaa minute

someone had another photo shoot with that unbelievable blonde model!!!

potter · 08-12-2013, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

You're incorrect. Cut your price in half and you almost have to triple your sales/subscriber base just to make up the difference in revenue after configuring processing and other support related expenses, that is not even counting the additional cost of acquiring more members.

The $10 model has been tried and tried and tried again. It disappears quickly for a reason.

We had a client who wanted to price their iPad app at $20. Tried to convince them many times that it just wouldn't work, that they wouldn't make any sales. They wanted it at $20 though. They spent close to a year on the app store with little to no sales. Finally, after this time I was able to convince them to try a lower price. They wanted to do $15, or $10 - but I insisted they bring it down to $3-5. They did, and changed the price to $5. They made more sales the following month than they had in the entirety of the app being on the app store.

Whats funny is there is a gold rush with mobile and web right now. Every day mobile technology becomes cheaper, and mobile phones get into the hands of more and more people around the globe. The same goes for internet connections, and computers. It is absolutely incredible the sheer amount of people and data that is being added to the internet each day. Companies are falling head over heels trying to snatch up the emerging markets. Go to any big conference (in mainstream) and it's always a main focus. Yet again, you go to adult and it's like everyone is doing the exact opposite of what is understood and done in other industries. It is truly incredible to see the backwards ass methodologies used and spoken about in this industry.

His Infernal Majesty · 08-13-2013, 01:41 PM

I'm unsure why people bitch about how bad things are getting then turn around and poo poo on someone who is trying something different? That is insanity!

dyna mo · 08-13-2013, 01:54 PM

hah, actually had this in my personal stash!

cute pic

CaptainHowdy · 08-13-2013, 01:58 PM

_Richard_ · 08-13-2013, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Seth Manson

he should be a little more respectful

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GALLERY NOTES
Karla Meyers was asked to bring a prop to her shoot that told something of her personality. She brought this camera, which was perfect since I had planned to take her to the picturesque cemetery that you see here. I know that I risk heavy criticism for shooting somewhat provocative photos at such a serious place and on such a serious day. However, look around on this holiday when we are asked to remember those who died fighting our wars. Do you observe the majority of us Americans being humble and serious or do we gather and indulge like it was any other holiday? I'm off now to enjoy big Memorial Day savings at Walmart. Be well.

seems rather respectful

http://www.zishy.com/albums/317-karl...s-memorial-day

Captain Kawaii · 08-13-2013, 02:55 PM

Anyone who compares a gay-boy tease site with hardcore porn price points is delusional, nutters or spends too much time with mommy.

After looking at the website at hand's traffic I hope they have strong DMCA enforcement in India.

The site is not bad its just boring and a 5 on the 1-10 scale. For me.

I like to see naked girls.

wehateporn · 08-13-2013, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

Anyone who compares a gay-boy tease site with hardcore porn price points is delusional, nutters or spends too much time with mommy.

After looking at the website at hand's traffic I hope they have strong DMCA enforcement in India.

The site is not bad its just boring and a 5 on the 1-10 scale. For me.

I like to see naked girls.

Mormons pay good money for this stuff, Zishy isn't banned in the Morman Internet filters.

I suspect a lot of older people who didn't grow up with porn on tap will also still enjoy these type of images. I doubt the new generations will understand the point of them.

wehateporn · 08-13-2013, 05:27 PM

NaughtyRob · 08-13-2013, 06:11 PM

I still love NN tease and maybe its because I am 47 but it turns me on more than hardcore.

wehateporn · 08-13-2013, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyRob

I still love NN tease and maybe its because I am 47 but it turns me on more than hardcore.

I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but Playboy nudity is about the most I can look at before things start to look ugly to me

Jim_Gunn · 08-13-2013, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

hah, actually had this in my personal stash!

cute pic

For crying out loud, how could you think that photo of all the pics on that huge tour is one of the best pics? Not only is the photographer and his flash evident in the reflection not once but twice which is amateurish as hell, but the model looks sad or annoyed not to mention super pale. She looks way better in the rear view in the reflection.

wehateporn · 08-17-2013, 02:53 AM

dyna mo · 08-17-2013, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

For crying out loud, how could you think that photo of all the pics on that huge tour is one of the best pics? Not only is the photographer and his flash evident in the reflection not once but twice which is amateurish as hell, but the model looks sad or annoyed not to mention super pale. She looks way better in the rear view in the reflection.

relax shit wad, i said it's a cute pic, i never said it was the best of anything, now you on the other hand, are pretty good at being a shit wad. taking issue with what someone posts as a cute pic in their opinion? that's like taking issue with someone because they like a certain kind of music you don't.

hahahhahaha, what an inseure fuckwad porner.

dyna mo · 08-17-2013, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

For crying out loud, how could you think that photo of all the pics on that huge tour is one of the best pics? Not only is the photographer and his flash evident in the reflection not once but twice which is amateurish as hell, but the model looks sad or annoyed not to mention super pale. She looks way better in the rear view in the reflection.

here's a typical jimm gumm pic, hahahaha, what a fuckwad.

dyna mo · 08-17-2013, 06:21 AM

aaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahH, another quality shot from jim gumm, i had to chose from plenty.

jesus fucking christ, this guy is the most boring g/f style shooter i've ever seen, yet has a problem with my posting a pic i happen to ifind cute.

hahahah, what a typical shitstain porner.

CaptainHowdy · 08-17-2013, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

pornmasta · 08-17-2013, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

i like poo ?

Slutboat · 02-06-2014, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Pseudonymous

Not sure if this thread is serious or youre trying to give a little bump in business to a friend of yours.

But this is a softcore site (basically non nude), this site would have been great 10 years ago.

And not in the same sense solo girl sites aren't the same as they were 10 years ago, the sales of solo girl sites has decreased but if you are really good at what you do, they make very good money

Non nude on the other hand, not only is it not what people want these days, there is no affiliates to push non nude content.

The only reason this site is up is because he had all this content shot because he enjoys working with women and being a photographer and it doens't cost alot because they aren't doing anything risque. So there isn't much reason not to launch it and make the few bucks on it. But this is site will be extremely small and even with the best photographer and best marketing, has an extremely low ceiling when it comes to potential earnings.

Even the mightiest in non nude are realizing this, the ones who have built their non nude member base at a time when it was easy and have a long hill to go down before they consider closing up. So for one to build one now makes no sense to me. I surely wouldn't continue shooting for it. Time is money and i rather spend my time and put my skills towards nude content that has the potential to obtain than a couple hundred members.

There is nobody in adult who is creating non nude content that isn't extremely raunchy (toys, very graphic shots, etc) and full of interaction, webcam shows, etc (solo girl sites) ... and IMO, those programs are even leaning more towards nude now

If its true and the Zishy guy is an ex photographer for digital desire and enjoys shooting models. There is alot of potential for him, very surprised hes shooting a very small time non nude tease site. Hopefully hes got fully nude projects coming in the future

And regarding his traffic sites, that isn't monthly fluctuation. Thats affiliates getting on board. Pushing some traffic with all the new promo galleries. Members checking it out and leaving. Every website gets that spike at the beginning (whether its a failed project or not), as long as YDG, BFTM and a couple others get on board, which they did.. That site will not stay within Alexa's radar after a couple more months. Feel free to quote me

OOPS

haileyleigh.com US rank 148,188

autumnriley.com US rank 197,930

natashabelle.com US rank 147,920

cassidycole.com US rank 106,033

zishy.com US rank 19,268

Captain Kawaii · 02-06-2014, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Slutboat

OOPS

haileyleigh.com US rank 148,188

autumnriley.com US rank 197,930

natashabelle.com US rank 147,920

cassidycole.com US rank 106,033

zishy.com US rank 19,268

Who links to zishy - Top 5. Would be interesting to see the other 186. How many are in india, Indo...

1. imgur.com imgur.com/r/Hotchickswithtattoos/NIsYe...
2. secureserver.net ip-173-201-142-193.ip.secureserver.net...
3. hostgator.com abc.listofdomains.org.216-172-176-236....
4. backpage.com losangeles.backpage.com/AdultJobs/seek...
5. wikimedia.org commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Adm...

Slutboat · 02-06-2014, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

Who links to zishy - Top 5. Would be interesting to see the other 186. How many are in india, Indo...

1. imgur.com imgur.com/r/Hotchickswithtattoos/NIsYe...
2. secureserver.net ip-173-201-142-193.ip.secureserver.net...
3. hostgator.com abc.listofdomains.org.216-172-176-236....
4. backpage.com losangeles.backpage.com/AdultJobs/seek...
5. wikimedia.org commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Adm...

So your point is that the fact that the US traffic for Zishy is going up up up is that it's all coming from shit sources and countries?

He's making sales.

Captain Kawaii · 02-06-2014, 10:24 AM

NO, point is he's being used as a free/near free photo library. When I checked awhile ago it was all Indian forums. Good for him if he's making sales.

Slutboat · 02-06-2014, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

NO, point is he's being used as a free/near free photo library. When I checked awhile ago it was all Indian forums. Good for him if he's making sales.

Last you checked your ass was there an asshole?

Zishy Visitors by Country

Percent of Visitors

United States
40.5%

Mexico
11.0%

Germany
8.5%

Spain
5.8%

Venezuela
5.7%

United Kingdom
3.5%

Canada
3.5%

Italy
2.4%

Australia
2.3%

India
2.3%

Captain Kawaii · 02-06-2014, 11:21 AM

I love Zishy's twink friends scampering to his aid.

It's a gay site for twinks still in the closet. Enjoy!

Since you are obsessed with my ass open wide I have a load for you.

Stats I posted are current. ESAD

Slutboat · 02-06-2014, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

I love Zishy's twink friends scampering to his aid.

It's a gay site for twinks still in the closet. Enjoy!

Since you are obsessed with my ass open wide I have a load for you.

Stats I posted are current. ESAD

Your argument is thoroughly debunked as false so all you can do is lash out with rage?

A site with all hot women is a site for twinks??? Yea like anyone would ever agree with that.

You have only proven one thing in this thread: You are a closet homosexual lashing out in the only way you know how - homophobic rage.

Mutt · 02-06-2014, 12:36 PM

I like the site, glad to see the Alexa shows he's having some success. His galleries are hosted on the tour so right from that comes a major amount of his traffic, being a multi model site versus 4 solo sites will attract more traffic. It is more compelling content than most porn photography so I'm not surprised. I don't see him making a lot of money, enough though maybe for a young single guy who enjoys doing what he does.

I asked him to shoot for me, he wasn't interested.

Slutboat · 02-06-2014, 07:35 PM

Bump for Pseudonymous to reply (or did he already as Captain Kawaii...)

would be really nice for once to see someone on in this place just step up, be a man, and admit he was wrong.

Pseudonymous · 03-12-2014, 07:41 AM

LOL taking one little thing i said about the site and being right about that does not make you correct about the main reason for the debate. I was wrong about him being off alexa's radar, thats about it. But that still doesn't make you right about the success of the website.

It is a free site, you are comparing the site to paysite tours. Paysite tours are the last stop before signing up.

If you take into account the amount of paying subscribers on his free website, it wouldnt appear as much of a success as you believe. I can launch a tgp that would get that much traffic in 24 hours

Not only that, his price of membership is 1/10th of a standard paysite so he would need 10x as many subscribers.

If you think this is a long term success, you are mistaken, this is a hobby of his and hes making a bit of extra cash. Comparing them to 400-500 (at $30 a pop) memberbase paysites is ridiculous.

You are suggesting i have a fake nick on gfy? LOL i dont even know why you would bring that up considering you log out of adendreams and log in to this account everytime you respond to this thread

I mean its great we have amateur photographers getting involved in the forum but debating marketing and paysites when you've never done both is rather silly. No?

Pseudonymous · 03-12-2014, 07:59 AM

Even in dead niches, if you shoot enough of it and offer it for free, you are still going to get traffic. Especially when its great content for sharing on boards (full of younger people who dont buy). Its a poor business model of choice unless its a hobby which he has admitted to it being and doesn't expect to make much from it.

arock10 · 03-12-2014, 08:17 AM

Zishys content is great but he needs to turn over the marketing (like price points) to someone who knows wtf they are doing. His prejoin page is just a login screen with no other details

Photographers need to stop trying to run websites.

MaxCandy · 03-12-2014, 08:51 AM

all praise him, tongue firmly planted in cheek.

Supz · 03-12-2014, 09:18 AM

To bad his main page scrolls down and you can never click the 'Webmaster Login' link. Its not hard to find in google but it still makes no sense putting a clickable link on the bottom of a never ending scroll.

TheDA · 03-12-2014, 09:25 AM

I don't see anything particularly special about it. Its good but nothing special.

View Poll Results: Is Zishy Zach a Photographic Genius?
Yes, he's a Photographic Genius	5	12.50%
He's certainly one of the best in the industry	11	27.50%
He's nothing special	24	60.00%
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08-10-2013, 06:32 PM	#56
livexxx Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,201	Is he Czech? Looks like that kind of 'style' __________________ http://www.webcamalerts.com for auto tweets for web cam operators

08-12-2013, 12:04 PM	#60
JP-pornshooter Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: westcoast usa Posts: 4,007	i didnt say he was a photographer for digital desire, just that he worked for them. think he did mostly computer work, web related... his style is really nice, and i have never seen him hit on the models, but he will ask if they mind shooting non nude with him and i think for the most part the girls dig it. definitively potential but he doesnt like hardcore styles - soft nude i think is where he is comfortable. __________________ "Obscenity is whatever gives the Judge an erection." -- Author Unknown

08-12-2013, 01:59 PM	#64
potter Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Denver Posts: 6,559	He's got the right price point. It's funny how over-priced so many adult sites are. More companies would make a killing if they switched to something more like what this guy is doing. $20/30/40 a month for a subscription to an adult site? LOL It's just so absurd. __________________

08-13-2013, 01:58 PM	#72
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08-12-2013, 02:44 PM	#68
_Richard_ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Vancouver Posts: 30,986	waittttaaaa minute someone had another photo shoot with that unbelievable blonde model!!!

08-13-2013, 01:41 PM	#70
His Infernal Majesty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 469	I'm unsure why people bitch about how bad things are getting then turn around and poo poo on someone who is trying something different? That is insanity!

08-13-2013, 01:54 PM	#71
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 63,905	hah, actually had this in my personal stash! cute pic

08-13-2013, 02:55 PM	#74
Captain Kawaii So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6,748	Anyone who compares a gay-boy tease site with hardcore porn price points is delusional, nutters or spends too much time with mommy. After looking at the website at hand's traffic I hope they have strong DMCA enforcement in India. The site is not bad its just boring and a 5 on the 1-10 scale. For me. I like to see naked girls. Last edited by Captain Kawaii; 08-13-2013 at 02:57 PM..

08-13-2013, 05:27 PM	#76
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08-13-2013, 06:11 PM	#77
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08-17-2013, 02:53 AM	#80
wehateporn Promoting Debate on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 27,173	__________________ Sexy Girls Teasing

08-17-2013, 06:21 AM	#83
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 63,905	aaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahH, another quality shot from jim gumm, i had to chose from plenty. jesus fucking christ, this guy is the most boring g/f style shooter i've ever seen, yet has a problem with my posting a pic i happen to ifind cute. hahahah, what a typical shitstain porner.

02-06-2014, 10:24 AM	#89
Captain Kawaii So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6,748	NO, point is he's being used as a free/near free photo library. When I checked awhile ago it was all Indian forums. Good for him if he's making sales.

02-06-2014, 11:21 AM	#91
Captain Kawaii So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6,748	I love Zishy's twink friends scampering to his aid. It's a gay site for twinks still in the closet. Enjoy! Since you are obsessed with my ass open wide I have a load for you. Stats I posted are current. ESAD

02-06-2014, 12:36 PM	#93
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	I like the site, glad to see the Alexa shows he's having some success. His galleries are hosted on the tour so right from that comes a major amount of his traffic, being a multi model site versus 4 solo sites will attract more traffic. It is more compelling content than most porn photography so I'm not surprised. I don't see him making a lot of money, enough though maybe for a young single guy who enjoys doing what he does. I asked him to shoot for me, he wasn't interested. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

02-06-2014, 07:35 PM	#94
Slutboat Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,388	Bump for Pseudonymous to reply (or did he already as Captain Kawaii...) would be really nice for once to see someone on in this place just step up, be a man, and admit he was wrong. __________________ The Slut Boat soon will be making another run The Slut Boat promises something for everyone

03-12-2014, 07:41 AM	#95
Pseudonymous Photographer/Owner Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 2,661	LOL taking one little thing i said about the site and being right about that does not make you correct about the main reason for the debate. I was wrong about him being off alexa's radar, thats about it. But that still doesn't make you right about the success of the website. It is a free site, you are comparing the site to paysite tours. Paysite tours are the last stop before signing up. If you take into account the amount of paying subscribers on his free website, it wouldnt appear as much of a success as you believe. I can launch a tgp that would get that much traffic in 24 hours Not only that, his price of membership is 1/10th of a standard paysite so he would need 10x as many subscribers. If you think this is a long term success, you are mistaken, this is a hobby of his and hes making a bit of extra cash. Comparing them to 400-500 (at $30 a pop) memberbase paysites is ridiculous. You are suggesting i have a fake nick on gfy? LOL i dont even know why you would bring that up considering you log out of adendreams and log in to this account everytime you respond to this thread I mean its great we have amateur photographers getting involved in the forum but debating marketing and paysites when you've never done both is rather silly. No? __________________ Previous owner of SoloRevenue Previous product manager @ Modelcentro.com/MCProfits.com, IsMyGirl.com, SMRevenue.com Last edited by Pseudonymous; 03-12-2014 at 07:53 AM..

03-12-2014, 07:59 AM	#96
Pseudonymous Photographer/Owner Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 2,661	Even in dead niches, if you shoot enough of it and offer it for free, you are still going to get traffic. Especially when its great content for sharing on boards (full of younger people who dont buy). Its a poor business model of choice unless its a hobby which he has admitted to it being and doesn't expect to make much from it. __________________ Previous owner of SoloRevenue Previous product manager @ Modelcentro.com/MCProfits.com, IsMyGirl.com, SMRevenue.com

03-12-2014, 08:17 AM	#97
arock10 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,218	Zishys content is great but he needs to turn over the marketing (like price points) to someone who knows wtf they are doing. His prejoin page is just a login screen with no other details Photographers need to stop trying to run websites. __________________ Sup

03-12-2014, 08:51 AM	#98
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03-12-2014, 09:18 AM	#99
Supz Arthur Flegenheimer Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 11,056	To bad his main page scrolls down and you can never click the 'Webmaster Login' link. Its not hard to find in google but it still makes no sense putting a clickable link on the bottom of a never ending scroll.

03-12-2014, 09:25 AM	#100
TheDA Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4,665	I don't see anything particularly special about it. Its good but nothing special. __________________ Sharleen Spiteri - 1989 - In The Ass