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pornmasta · 11-25-2013, 05:23 PM

I see that i make sales with other sponsors, but months after months, i see less or less reccurring sales (with a possible rebill) while it's still pretty decent with other sponsors...

CCbill, can you fix your shit, plz ?

SlammedMedia · 11-25-2013, 05:38 PM

Not sure I have a clue what you're trying to say, but if I do...

The sponsors you're using who don't use CCBill as their credit card processor and you're seeing lots of rebills, compared to the sponsors who use CCBill and you're seeing fewer rebills, is likely because -- the sponsors who don't use CCBill are in a lot of cases companies with much better programs, more content, better content, their own processing / merchant accounts / less scrubbing / etc. So obviously you're going to see better rebills %'s with those companies and it has little to do with CCBill themselves.

fitzmulti · 11-25-2013, 05:45 PM

I love these posts that "blame CCBILL" for stuff like this...
{SlammedMedia} has a great response above.
People who join and renew, or not renew, don't make their decision based on using CCBILL or not.

pornmasta · 11-25-2013, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlammedMedia

Not sure I have a clue what you're trying to say, but if I do...

The sponsors you're using who don't use CCBill as their credit card processor and you're seeing lots of rebills, compared to the sponsors who use CCBill and you're seeing fewer rebills, is likely because -- the sponsors who don't use CCBill are in a lot of cases companies with much better programs, more content, better content, their own processing / merchant accounts / less scrubbing / etc. So obviously you're going to see better rebills %'s with those companies and it has little to do with CCBill themselves.

I could compare my reccuring sales now and my reccuring sales 2 years ago: i have now much more single transactions. I wonder why...

wehateporn · 11-25-2013, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta

I could compare my reccuring sales now and my reccuring sales 2 years ago: i have now much more single transactions. I wonder why...

I have noticed that switch too actually, loads of singles in CCBill these days (not sure why)

wehateporn · 11-25-2013, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta

I could compare my reccuring sales now and my reccuring sales 2 years ago: i have now much more single transactions. I wonder why...

Perhaps there's a reduced scrub on single

SlammedMedia · 11-26-2013, 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta

I could compare my reccuring sales now and my reccuring sales 2 years ago: i have now much more single transactions. I wonder why...

The internet's a different place than it was 2 years ago, you can't compare anything to how it was. A lot of people know how to (or can) rip sites faster than they did two years. Due to access to programs that rip videos / photo galleries and overall people's internet connections keep getting faster. I'd guess the vast majority of CCBill sites aren't giving members updates that are worth staying anymore than a month, once the site's been ripped, or totally checked out.

ShackledMaidens · 11-27-2013, 02:37 AM

I've been using ccbill for years,

My oldest member is from 2007 and logs in every day

If your not getting rebills, then I suggest you look at what your site is offering

PornDude · 11-27-2013, 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShackledMaidens

My oldest member is from 2007 and logs in every day

Freak

wehateporn · 11-27-2013, 04:50 AM

When affiliate discuss this, they are often talking from the perspective of sales from 100's of different CCBill programs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShackledMaidens

I've been using ccbill for years,

My oldest member is from 2007 and logs in every day

If your not getting rebills, then I suggest you look at what your site is offering

jscott · 11-27-2013, 06:37 AM

This month I have my worst ccbill month since I was in high school

mavruda · 11-27-2013, 06:38 AM

Bump for this thread !
P.S. Same in here.

arock10 · 11-27-2013, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Perhaps there's a reduced scrub on single

Nah it's something related to lizard people

ShackledMaidens · 11-29-2013, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PikaPoka

Freak

I have 25+ members who log in every day, 80% of members have been with me for over a year.

Thought that's how you run a pay site or have I gone wrong somewhere :/

As for November, so far looking like the 2nd best months in a year

Jel · 11-29-2013, 07:52 AM

affs still sending to ccbill have seriously failed to adapt. yes, it's lovely they pay like clockwork etc, and you can consolidate etc, and sometimes you have no choice depending on the niche/content etc. But... ccbill is far from geared towards affiliates (and barely even geared to merchants).

Jel · 11-29-2013, 07:55 AM

to expound on that a bit:

"blah blah I know I'll get paid"

well,

1: how many times have you actually been burned? It's hardly an extremely widespread occurence.
2. you could get burned by program xyz after 4 months for a months worth of payments and still be up as to $$$ in your pocket.

sojproductions · 11-29-2013, 08:48 AM

ive noticed more single sales too, and more declines on rebills which is annoying, card was fine 30 days ago but not now.. ccbill are still the only company to decline my card ever.

smoothballs · 12-05-2013, 12:27 PM

For affilates like me, CCBill is dead in the water! With about 3 single signups in the last three months and down to about 3 rebills now, lots of longstanding rebills have gone, just waiting for those last rebills to cancel then ccbill are dead in the water for me.

Like others on this thread other programs are doing well so blows the whole industry suffering idea out of the water (yes I know its not the same now!) But funny how non ccbill sponsors have overtaken what used to be my biggest payers.

CCBill literally changed something back in sept/oct 2009 and has never been the same since, and no one has ever seem to put their finger (with proof) on what ccbill changed.

They may be good for fillers, hoping for the odd signup or its just wasted traffic that could go to non ccbill sponsors....annoying thing is the beauty of ccbill having all payments lumped under one roof, wish it could been the same with nats...

pornmasta · 12-05-2013, 01:06 PM

for me something changed at the end of 2012

smoothballs · 12-05-2013, 01:15 PM

2012? as they were reclining was kinda expected anyway, definitely agree about more single memberships then recurring ones on this thread too!

SwirlsGirl · 12-05-2013, 01:22 PM

approval decline

failed rebill
customer cancellation

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form submit 1.6%

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smoothballs · 12-05-2013, 01:47 PM

Guess its more a affiliate thing, don't see many ccbill sponsors queuing up to drop them!

Although some have been disenchanted and switched to nats ect

jscott · 12-05-2013, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smoothballs

Guess its more a affiliate thing, don't see many ccbill sponsors queuing up to drop them!

I don't think sponsors will admit their ratios have also gone to shit

BFT3K · 12-05-2013, 01:57 PM

Look, this Eskimo just bought a bag of ice cubes!

pornmasta · 12-05-2013, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jscott

I don't think sponsors will admit their ratios have also gone to shit

indeed

OmahaJoe · 12-05-2013, 03:28 PM

My two cents, more of the programs I work with now offer a single mother offer with no re-bill. Two years ago most just had there single month price and the recurring was just there if the customer never caught it.

Since then my re-bills have dropped as well.

icymelon · 12-05-2013, 04:49 PM

rebills and signup ratios are lower with ccbill but the problem is they actually pay. I tried to run some stats on non ccbill processed sites. hard to do cause some processors use them in a rotation but when I factor in the ones who haven't paid it ends up being close enough to not really worry about it. That being said why do some of the top sites use them still? Seems like ccbill is a great option for the solo site or the smaller niche site.

SwirlsGirl · 12-05-2013, 04:51 PM

I guess the good thing is that they always pay on time, and the sales and rebills keep getting smaller and smaller according to just about anybody on this board who is not a robot

whOaKemosabe · 12-05-2013, 04:52 PM

the flex stats thing is confusing i can't even view hits uniques etc..

deltav · 12-05-2013, 05:23 PM

My CCBill rebills are the same as they've always been. Some guys will always flail around for a scapegoat though, instead of taking an honest look at what *they* should be doing differently.

11-25-2013, 05:23 PM	#1
pornmasta Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 18,973	CCbill sales I see that i make sales with other sponsors, but months after months, i see less or less reccurring sales (with a possible rebill) while it's still pretty decent with other sponsors... CCbill, can you fix your shit, plz ?

11-25-2013, 05:38 PM	#2
SlammedMedia Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,573	Not sure I have a clue what you're trying to say, but if I do... The sponsors you're using who don't use CCBill as their credit card processor and you're seeing lots of rebills, compared to the sponsors who use CCBill and you're seeing fewer rebills, is likely because -- the sponsors who don't use CCBill are in a lot of cases companies with much better programs, more content, better content, their own processing / merchant accounts / less scrubbing / etc. So obviously you're going to see better rebills %'s with those companies and it has little to do with CCBill themselves. __________________ ICQ: 350-260-628

11-25-2013, 05:45 PM	#3
fitzmulti I Like Depth Of Field! Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Las Vegas, NV, USA: 36.12318 N, 115.090219 W Posts: 14,861	I love these posts that "blame CCBILL" for stuff like this... {SlammedMedia} has a great response above. People who join and renew, or not renew, don't make their decision based on using CCBILL or not. __________________ www.SexyGirlsCash.com CONTACT // FITZMULTI AT GMAIL.COM // {Please include a message so I know you are from GFY! I get too many spam "add requests"!}

11-29-2013, 08:48 AM	#17
sojproductions Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,160	ive noticed more single sales too, and more declines on rebills which is annoying, card was fine 30 days ago but not now.. ccbill are still the only company to decline my card ever. __________________ ICQ: 404-159-022 Blue Pixels Profits - Uk Solo Tranny sites & Crossdressing! Filthy Profits - Uk MILF Solo Sites

12-05-2013, 12:27 PM	#18
smoothballs Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 151	For affilates like me, CCBill is dead in the water! With about 3 single signups in the last three months and down to about 3 rebills now, lots of longstanding rebills have gone, just waiting for those last rebills to cancel then ccbill are dead in the water for me. Like others on this thread other programs are doing well so blows the whole industry suffering idea out of the water (yes I know its not the same now!) But funny how non ccbill sponsors have overtaken what used to be my biggest payers. CCBill literally changed something back in sept/oct 2009 and has never been the same since, and no one has ever seem to put their finger (with proof) on what ccbill changed. They may be good for fillers, hoping for the odd signup or its just wasted traffic that could go to non ccbill sponsors....annoying thing is the beauty of ccbill having all payments lumped under one roof, wish it could been the same with nats... Last edited by smoothballs; 12-05-2013 at 12:36 PM..

11-27-2013, 02:37 AM	#8
ShackledMaidens Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 102	I've been using ccbill for years, My oldest member is from 2007 and logs in every day If your not getting rebills, then I suggest you look at what your site is offering

11-27-2013, 06:37 AM	#11
jscott So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Taipei Posts: 25,198	This month I have my worst ccbill month since I was in high school

11-27-2013, 06:38 AM	#12
mavruda porn cartoonist Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Vatican City Posts: 2,598	Bump for this thread ! P.S. Same in here.

11-29-2013, 07:52 AM	#15
Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	affs still sending to ccbill have seriously failed to adapt. yes, it's lovely they pay like clockwork etc, and you can consolidate etc, and sometimes you have no choice depending on the niche/content etc. But... ccbill is far from geared towards affiliates (and barely even geared to merchants).

11-29-2013, 07:55 AM	#16
Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	to expound on that a bit: "blah blah I know I'll get paid" well, 1: how many times have you actually been burned? It's hardly an extremely widespread occurence. 2. you could get burned by program xyz after 4 months for a months worth of payments and still be up as to $$$ in your pocket.

12-05-2013, 01:06 PM	#19
pornmasta Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 18,973	for me something changed at the end of 2012

12-05-2013, 01:15 PM	#20
smoothballs Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 151	2012? as they were reclining was kinda expected anyway, definitely agree about more single memberships then recurring ones on this thread too!

12-05-2013, 01:22 PM	#21
SwirlsGirl So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: between east coast and vegas Posts: 2,067	approval decline failed rebill customer cancellation merry x-mas form submit 1.6% feliz navidad

12-05-2013, 01:47 PM	#22
smoothballs Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 151	Guess its more a affiliate thing, don't see many ccbill sponsors queuing up to drop them! Although some have been disenchanted and switched to nats ect

12-05-2013, 01:57 PM	#24
BFT3K Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Narnia Posts: 10,764	Look, this Eskimo just bought a bag of ice cubes!

12-05-2013, 03:28 PM	#26
OmahaJoe Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Nebraska Posts: 300	My two cents, more of the programs I work with now offer a single mother offer with no re-bill. Two years ago most just had there single month price and the recurring was just there if the customer never caught it. Since then my re-bills have dropped as well. __________________ I dabble in this and a little in that.

12-05-2013, 04:49 PM	#27
icymelon Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 3,220	rebills and signup ratios are lower with ccbill but the problem is they actually pay. I tried to run some stats on non ccbill processed sites. hard to do cause some processors use them in a rotation but when I factor in the ones who haven't paid it ends up being close enough to not really worry about it. That being said why do some of the top sites use them still? Seems like ccbill is a great option for the solo site or the smaller niche site. __________________ Network Of Adult Blogs With Hardlink Rentals Available

12-05-2013, 04:51 PM	#28
SwirlsGirl So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: between east coast and vegas Posts: 2,067	I guess the good thing is that they always pay on time, and the sales and rebills keep getting smaller and smaller according to just about anybody on this board who is not a robot

12-05-2013, 04:52 PM	#29
whOaKemosabe So Fucking Stoned... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 1,968	the flex stats thing is confusing i can't even view hits uniques etc..

12-05-2013, 05:23 PM	#30
deltav Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2010 Location: USA Posts: 1,243	My CCBill rebills are the same as they've always been. Some guys will always flail around for a scapegoat though, instead of taking an honest look at what they should be doing differently. __________________ ********* DeltaofVenus.com - Vintage Erotica from the 1800s through 1979