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Old 02-08-2014, 10:27 PM   #1
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16 year old faces child porn charges after posting naked selfie on Twitter

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/...hotos-of-self/

JAMES CITY COUNTY, Va. (CBSDC) ? A local teenager is facing child pornography charges after police say she shared nude photographs of herself on the social networking site Twitter.

According to WAVY, the unnamed 16-year-old suspect took ?selfies? in which she was not wearing clothing, then shared them online at the end of last month.

Officials with the James City County Police Department told the station that teenagers sometimes fail to grasp the severity of the situation when publicly sharing private materials.

?It?s not just friends that see what they post but also strangers and everyone else out there,? Stephanie Williams-Ortery, a representative of the department, told WAVY. ?You have no idea who?s out there watching. You never know who?s going to see what you post.?

A school resource officer was informed of the then-publicly available photographs? lewd nature, and talked with both the teen and her mother about the situation.

Authorities then confiscated her phone and charged her with one count of distribution of child pornography.

The matter could become a criminal one with the potential of jail time, though experts who spoke with WAVY said that she will likely have to complete a Sexting Education program.

Officials hope a lesson has been learned by the teenager ? and by others around her age ? either way.

?I would hope that they would not then forward it on to their friends because then they become guilty also of distribution of child pornography, whether they know that or not,? Williams-Ortery was quoted as saying.
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Sounds like they're at least considering using their discretion rather than charging her and labelling her as a sex offender for life. The laws need to be updated so kids sending pictures to other kids are not charged with CP offences.
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The laws need to be updated so kids sending pictures to other kids are not charged with CP offences.
Slippery slope there. Surely its not ok for a 17 year old to send nude photos to a 12 year old
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Victimless crime. What's more damaging to the child: The fact that her nude photos will be out there forever and ever, or what the justice system is about to do to her?
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Victimless crime. What's more damaging to the child: The fact that her nude photos will be out there forever and ever, or what the justice system is about to do to her?


Law was designed to protect children, not hurt them.

Vanessa Hudgens had nude pics on her phone that went public. Why didn't she go to jail for possessing child porn?

Remember the streaking kid that was gonna have to register as a sex offender that committed suicide?

Prosecutors and judges are going crazy with these laws, I don't know what is going on. Any ideas?
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Sounds like they're at least considering using their discretion rather than charging her and labelling her as a sex offender for life. The laws need to be updated so kids sending pictures to other kids are not charged with CP offences.
In any other normal country, children can not be sued and jailed because they are just children. Those who can be are not children.

E.g. in Russia criminal punishment can be applied to the persons of 16 yo and above. However, the age of consist here is also 16, thus 16 yo person is not a child. So the law here is well balanced
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So the law here is well balanced
Apart from the horrific, disgusting homophobia, sure.
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Apart from the horrific, disgusting homophobia, sure.
There is neither homobobia in Russian criminal code (if you find at least one such an article, I'll pay you $10K via paxum) nor in our society. As I said already most of popular Russian singers and actors are gays. I'm talking about those ones that occupied all federal TV channels and have more fans here than population of a whole your country. Pull your finger out of your ass already and stop posting nonsense here.
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How can be charged for that, wtf?
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How can be charged for that, wtf?
Only in the USA
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There is neither homobobia in Russian criminal code (if you find at least one such an article, I'll pay you $10K via paxum) nor in our society. As I said already most of popular Russian singers and actors are gays. I'm talking about those ones that occupied all federal TV channels and have more fans here than population of a whole your country. Pull your finger out of your ass already and stop posting nonsense here.
You are nuts. it is against the law to promote the gay lifestyle.


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You are nuts. it is against the law to promote the gay lifestyle.


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10k paxum coming your way?
Like he has 10k anything.

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Law was designed to protect children, not hurt them.

Vanessa Hudgens had nude pics on her phone that went public. Why didn't she go to jail for possessing child porn?

Remember the streaking kid that was gonna have to register as a sex offender that committed suicide?

Prosecutors and judges are going crazy with these laws, I don't know what is going on. Any ideas?
I think Vanessa was of age at the time.
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There is neither homobobia in Russian criminal code (if you find at least one such an article, I'll pay you $10K via paxum) nor in our society.
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There is neither homobobia in Russian criminal code (if you find at least one such an article, I'll pay you $10K via paxum) nor in our society. As I said already most of popular Russian singers and actors are gays. I'm talking about those ones that occupied all federal TV channels and have more fans here than population of a whole your country. Pull your finger out of your ass already and stop posting nonsense here.
Total denial - A very Russian response.
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Slippery slope there. Surely its not ok for a 17 year old to send nude photos to a 12 year old
Oh, definitely not, but it could be tied to existing laws about consent. If a 17 year old cannot have sex with a 12 year old, they should also not be sending them nude photos.
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fact is this is happening on all social media platforms and elsewhere and there isn't much that can be done to stop it.
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In any other normal country, children can not be sued and jailed because they are just children. Those who can be are not children.

E.g. in Russia criminal punishment can be applied to the persons of 16 yo and above. However, the age of consist here is also 16, thus 16 yo person is not a child. So the law here is well balanced
RUSSIAN FEDERATION: PERSISTENT VIOLATIONS OF CHILDREN'S RIGHTS

Trafficking of children, particularly for sexual exploitation
Child labour
Children living and working on the streets
Sexual abuse and exploitation of children
Inadequate sexual and reproductive health education and services
Inadequate response to the prevalence of HIV and AIDS among children and young people
Inadequate health provision and services for children
Discrimination against Roma children, particularly with regards to education and health
Discrimination against children with disabilities, particularly with regards to education, including the exclusion of children from mainstream education
Inadequate education provision, particularly affecting rural children and indigenous communities
Inadequate alternative care provision, including inappropriate use of institutions
Lack of a specialised juvenile justice system
Inappropriate use of, and conditions within, detention for children in conflict with the law
Inadequate support for children facing economic hardship

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You are nuts. it is against the law to promote the gay lifestyle.
Give me a quote from Russian criminal code and you'll be paid for that. I promise. $10K will be yours.
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Total denial - A very Russian response.
O'rly? A denial of what? I'm alradye said that I will pay $10K paxum to anyone who will find an appropriate article in the Russian criminal code. Go forth and get your money!
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RUSSIAN FEDERATION: PERSISTENT VIOLATIONS OF CHILDREN'S RIGHTS
CHILDREN RIGHTS != GAY RIGHTS

Once again: quote the Russian anti-gay criminal code and get $10K from me. That's not a joke. I'll pay you this money if you quote it. Are you dare to do it, or you prefer to be a local ass-clown who can't prove his own words? Yeah that's very typical for your country.
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CHILDREN RIGHTS != GAY RIGHTS

Once again: quote the Russian anti-gay criminal code and get $10K from me. That's not a joke. I'll pay you this money if you quote it. Are you dare to do it, or you prefer to be a local ass-clown who can't prove his own words? Yeah that's very typical for your country.
reread your comment I quoted dipshit and stick your bullshit 10k up your asses.

Point: your country is far from normal.

I couldn't give 2 shit about homos in russia and never commented on that.

dumbass.
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Us of a should bomb Russia to cause apparwntly there's to many homos running wild there!

Must be the cold weather keeping dudes locked up together all winter

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reread your comment I quoted dipshit and stick your bullshit 10k up your asses.
Nothing to say? No proves? Just calling the names? A very typical thing for your country.

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Point: your country is far from normal.
Your one is. The country where a 16 yo teen can be sued for distribution of her own nude pics? Am I'm right? Ok then and good luck on that...

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I couldn't give 2 shit about homos in russia and never commented on that..
You even don't care to call them "gays". Ok, got it.

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no, I never said my country is normal, not in this thread, not any fucking where.

you said your country is normal, it's far from normal and has a history of persistant children's rights violations and issues.
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umm, they are homos.
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The age of consent has nothing to do with child pornography laws.

another GFY agenda thread ...
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There is neither homobobia in Russian criminal code (if you find at least one such an article, I'll pay you $10K via paxum) nor in our society. As I said already most of popular Russian singers and actors are gays. I'm talking about those ones that occupied all federal TV channels and have more fans here than population of a whole your country. Pull your finger out of your ass already and stop posting nonsense here.
"Federal laws passed on 29 June 2013 ban the promotion of homosexuality to minors. The new law makes it illegal to hold any sort of public demonstration in favour of gay rights, speak in defense of gay rights and distribute material related to gay rights,or to state that gay relationships are equal to heterosexual relationships."

I can't read russian but heres the link i got.. http://pravo.gov.ru/proxy/ips/?docbo...dk=&backlink=1

Federal law #135-FZ of 29 June 2013 "On the protection of children from information harmful to their health and development"
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O'rly? A denial of what? I'm alradye said that I will pay $10K paxum to anyone who will find an appropriate article in the Russian criminal code. Go forth and get your money!
You can't be THAT stupid, can you?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...gay-propaganda

The WORLD is decrying your homeland's rampant homophobia, you are saying we've got it wrong and Russia now embraces homosexuals??

Fuck me, it's one thing to express national pride, it is another to be so bat shit mental you refuse to see your government is full of homophobic cunts.
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In any other normal country, children can not be sued and jailed because they are just children. Those who can be are not children.

E.g. in Russia criminal punishment can be applied to the persons of 16 yo and above. However, the age of consist here is also 16, thus 16 yo person is not a child. So the law here is well balanced
What you seek is age of majority, not age of consent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_majority

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In 2013 lawmaker Alexei Zhuravlyov proposed a new law that would strip gay people with children of their parenting rights. The bill triggered fears the government was about to start taking children from their parents, but stalled in Russia's parliament.

Zhuravlyov is now pushing for a slightly watered down version that would deny custody to any parent who leaves a straight relationship to be gay. He says: "In case any parent openly propagates homosexuality and only in this case, if the family splits, a child should exclusively stay with a parent who has heterosexual way of life."

Zhuravlyov dismisses Western liberalism and says traditional Russian values dictate a child should have a father and a mother. "We think on this, Russia is on the right path compared to the west," he says. "If you in the west are so tolerant, let Russia live with its established traditions. Be tolerant to us."

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Gay and tomboy students could return to school if they proved ?they have been corrected and have stopped such practices,? the newspaper said.

It said the commission was ordered to work harder to combat the gay ?phenomenon, which has been promoted by some websites,? and to oppose ?unacceptable behavior? in public places.

Under Saudi law, homosexual behavior can be punished by whipping, prison sentences and even death.
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How can be charged for that, wtf?
The exact same way if it was you who took the pics of her.

Lets break this down as simple as it can be...

Statement 1 - Taking photos/video of underage girls = CP
Was there a photo taken of an underage girl naked and posted online? - Yes. Does this mean it's CP. See statement 1
It was a selfie that the underage girl took herself and shared. Was the girl underage? - Yes. See statement 1
But its a selfie, can that still be CP? Was the girl underage? See statement 1.

Now lets take it one more step... Say you happen to be on her twitter feed, or maybe one of her friends who retweeted, or one of their friends who retweeted these pics. And you happen to be online when those pics hit your feed. You now have CP on your system and can be charged as well.

Are you still defending her?

Was Traci Lords an innocent victim of evil CP producers, or did the producers who followed the law get fucked because another person knowingly and willingly broke the laws.

Are you still defending her?

Instead of discussing what country has better laws, and which laws should be changed... Perhaps you should concentrate more on the existing laws and how they may effect you.
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"Federal laws passed on 29 June 2013 ban the promotion of homosexuality to minors. The new law makes it illegal to hold any sort of public demonstration in favour of gay rights, speak in defense of gay rights and distribute material related to gay rights,or to state that gay relationships are equal to heterosexual relationships."

I can't read russian but heres the link i got.. http://pravo.gov.ru/proxy/ips/?docbo...dk=&backlink=1

Federal law #135-FZ of 29 June 2013 "On the protection of children from information harmful to their health and development"
So two questions for you:
  1. Is it a criminal code?
  2. How exactly it become anti-gay? Do you mean it can be applied to gays only and can't be applied to straight people promoting non-traditional sex relations to minors?

And one more question. Hast it been ever applied to somebody in Russia?
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Old 02-09-2014, 11:51 PM   #39
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The WORLD is decrying your homeland's rampant homophobia, you are saying we've got it wrong and Russia now embraces homosexuals??
You are not the WORLD. The normal people on this planet don't even care about it. Only a branch of hysterical idiots like you does. Go read the law and get a clue already
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Old 02-10-2014, 12:24 AM   #40
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Back to the gay/lesbian theme in Russia. Tatu on 2014 Sochi Olympics opening:



Oh yeah, that was soooooooo anti-gay
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Old 02-10-2014, 02:46 AM   #41
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As I see it the idea of child pornography laws was to stop the exploitation of children by adults.

NOT to stop the exploration of sexuality by children themselves.

To use the law against the children it was intended to protect is the distortion.

It is crazy that young people can legally have sex (in the UK) at 16 but if they film it they are breaking the law.

Parents cannot even have photos of their own children naked, we have let the sex offenders set the agenda. We cannot see images in an innocent way because of a tiny percentage of sick individuals and law makers who perceive sex as dangerous.
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Old 02-10-2014, 02:54 AM   #42
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"Sexting Education program" - sounds like a nice money scam run by state employed pedophiles
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The mentioned above anti-gay video: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v...type=2&theater
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Parents cannot even have photos of their own children naked, we have let the sex offenders set the agenda. We cannot see images in an innocent way because of a tiny percentage of sick individuals and law makers who perceive sex as dangerous.
Actually, this is untrue.

Legally speaking (in most Western countries), it's possible for non-nude content of children to be considered child pornography, and nude content of children to not be considered child pornography.

If you've got pictures of your kids in the bath, it isn't CP.
If you've got pictures of other children in sexually suggestive poses, wearing sexually suggestive clothing, it's CP.

Nakedness, while usually a good indication of exploitation, is not the only thing taken into account when material featuring minors is analyzed.
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Companies have been reporting images to the police which were family pictures of their children playing.

This has created a climate of fear.

It maybe that there is a defence but who wants the initial investigation?
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