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Emma · 03-23-2014, 12:54 AM

National Geographic is western company and they maps Crimea as part of Russia. They map the world as it is,not as people would like it to be. Crimea set to leave Ukraine and join Russia after referendum. Why are facts not enough?

just a punk · 03-23-2014, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Emma

Facts only: Kosovo vs Crimea - 'Good Independence' vs 'Bad Referendum'

You just nailed it

Sid70 · 03-23-2014, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

alas, recent history has shown votes for all of Ukraine are neither observed nor respected

but i see the rule of the gun seems to be gaining favour

You ate Putin's poo or what?

Kolargol · 03-23-2014, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Emma

Facts only: Kosovo vs Crimea - 'Good Independence' vs 'Bad Referendum'

Before interventions there was ethnic cleansing in Kosovo and there wasn't in Crimea.

Also, I don't think any NATO country incorporated Kosovo like Russians did with Crimea.

Also, I don't remember any negotiations or any try from Putin to solve it peacefully because there was no conflict whatsoever. Not a single Russian or Ukrainian expected this invasion.

pornmasta · 03-23-2014, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kolargol

Before interventions there was ethnic cleansing in Kosovo and there wasn't in Crimea.
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i think that there was a lot of propaganda about that.
http://vostaniserbie.wordpress.com/2...of-propaganda/

in my link there is for example a picture that suggest a genocide, while this guy wasn't in fact starving

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing#1990s

Emma · 03-24-2014, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Kolargol

Before interventions there was ethnic cleansing in Kosovo and there wasn't in Crimea.

Also, I don't think any NATO country incorporated Kosovo like Russians did with Crimea.

Also, I don't remember any negotiations or any try from Putin to solve it peacefully because there was no conflict whatsoever. Not a single Russian or Ukrainian expected this invasion.

Says who?

15 years on: Looking back at NATO's ?humanitarian? bombing of Yugoslavia

Emma · 03-24-2014, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by pornmasta

i think that there was a lot of propaganda about that.
http://vostaniserbie.wordpress.com/2...of-propaganda/

in my link there is for example a picture that suggest a genocide, while this guy wasn't in fact starving

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing#1990s

Say no more.

femdomdestiny · 03-24-2014, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Kolargol

Before interventions there was ethnic cleansing in Kosovo and there wasn't in Crimea.

Also, I don't think any NATO country incorporated Kosovo like Russians did with Crimea.

Also, I don't remember any negotiations or any try from Putin to solve it peacefully because there was no conflict whatsoever. Not a single Russian or Ukrainian expected this invasion.

Ethnic cleansing? There was organized terror attacks, kidnapping coordinated and supported by CIA with a goal to get reaction from authorities and use it as excuse for attack. use internet, if you already have it to educate yourself.

Only real cleansing was during NATO ocupation when what left of serbs were cleaned together with churches and monuments destroyed even if protected by UNESCO.

To save your time : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_unrest_in_Kosovo

or video to see what muslims are doing in the Europe while backed up by NATO.
Shit like this is precisely why russians are not stupid to let themselves under pro nazi ukraine government that wasn't even elected.

femdomdestiny · 03-24-2014, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Kolargol

Before interventions there was ethnic cleansing in Kosovo and there wasn't in Crimea.

Also, I don't think any NATO country incorporated Kosovo like Russians did with Crimea.

Also, I don't remember any negotiations or any try from Putin to solve it peacefully because there was no conflict whatsoever. Not a single Russian or Ukrainian expected this invasion.

Do me a favor and watch it:

_Richard_ · 03-24-2014, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70

You ate Putin's poo or what?

unfortunately it's not a black and white situation

femdomdestiny · 03-24-2014, 08:30 AM

it is never black or white...are you getting messages on ICQ?

Sid70 · 03-24-2014, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

unfortunately it's not a black and white situation

It is. At least to me things are clear. But more I can see it developing more I begin to believe there is a bigger deal behind it.

Emma · 03-25-2014, 04:18 AM

Vladimir Putin will visit the Russian Republic of Crimea for sure, but not soon, Russian presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters.

Vladimir Putin, Crimea's Prime Minister Sergei Aksyonov, Crimean parliamentary speaker Vladimir Konstantinov and Sevastopol Mayor Aleksei Chaliy shake hands after a signing ceremony in Moscow

Emma · 03-27-2014, 01:13 AM

Crimea will not return to Ukraine, speaker of the Crimean legislature Vladimir Konstantinov told reporters on Tuesday. "The Crimea's return to Ukraine is ruled out," he said.

At least 91 percent of Russian respondents support Crimea?s planned reintegration into the Russian Federation, a poll has shown. The survey was conducted by the nation?s major Vtsiom pollster and the Public Opinion Fund.

WDF · 03-27-2014, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Emma

At least 91 percent of Russian respondents support Crimea?s planned reintegration into the Russian Federation, a poll has shown. The survey was conducted by the nation?s major Vtsiom pollster and the Public Opinion Fund.

Shouldn't it be "Crimean" respondents that decide, not "Russian" respondents as you state comrade?

BettingHandle · 03-28-2014, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by pornmasta

i think that there was a lot of propaganda about that.
http://vostaniserbie.wordpress.com/2...of-propaganda/

in my link there is for example a picture that suggest a genocide, while this guy wasn't in fact starving

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing#1990s

Serbia: A Lesson for the Modern World

WDF · 03-28-2014, 04:04 PM

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=20031171&postcount=19

Emma · 04-01-2014, 06:35 AM

Petition of Crimea's referendum recognition on US gov't website.A petition, demanding that the US government recognizes referendum in the Crimea has been published on the website of the White House. "Citizens of the Crimea made their choice on May 16, deciding to integrate with Russia. This was the choice of people and not of the government. We demand that Obama's administration recognizes the legitimacy of the referendum," the petition states.

Emma · 04-16-2014, 02:29 AM

Anti-government protesters wearing gas masks storm a regional police building as one prepares a petrol bomb in the eastern Ukrainian city of Horlivka

Members of the Ukrainian Interior Ministry walk past a MI-8 military helicopter and armored personnel carriers at a checkpoint near the town of Izium, eastern Ukraine

Ukraine turmoil LIVE UPDATES

Political crisis in Ukraine countinues, country's East in chaos. LIVE UPDATES

Emma · 04-29-2014, 06:53 AM

A total of 96.19% participants gave a negative answer to question number one, which asked them if they had trust in the interim acting president of Ukraine Alexander Turchinov and the officials he had appointed.

Question number two - 'Do you support the slashing of social benefits and abolition of discounts at the IMF recommendation?' - got 95.77% negative answers.

Emma · 05-03-2014, 02:44 AM

Situation in Ukraine's east still tense, standoff continues. LIVE UPDATES

Fabien · 05-03-2014, 03:09 AM

When will it stop.
I just don't understand why people keep on fighting and fighting everywhere in the world. Breaks my heart and i'm ashamed of human beings

Peace, love and MONEY is the way to go lol

just a punk · 05-03-2014, 06:02 AM

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I just don't understand why people keep on fighting and fighting everywhere in the world. Breaks my heart and i'm ashamed of human beings

Because the whole their country is a joke and nonsense. The people there just don't want to work and this is the only reason.

A half of them voted for Yanukovich in 2004, but the other half decided that the election was unfair, so they came to Maydan and started the so-called orange revolution. Yanukovich was replaced by Yushenko and Timoshenko according to the Maydan requirements. With Yushenko as a president and Timoshenko as a prime minister, Ukrainian economics gone down to shit. So they have voted again and re-elected Yanukovich (that's not a mistake, that's the same dude they threw out in 2004). In 2013 they decided that Yanukovich is not good enough (again) and came to Maydan (again). They killed 100 of citizens and replaced Yanukovich with Turchinov. Some are not happy with Turchinov and the new neo-NAZI government, while others are not happy with those that are not happy... So they are bashing each other (every fun better than work)...

As you can see, this is a never ending story of people that live in a totally broke and fucked up country. They won't stop till they kill themselves and break the Ukraine into pieces

Emma · 05-12-2014, 01:31 AM

Almost 90 percent of voters in Donetsk Region have endorsed political independence from Kiev, the head of the Central Election Commission of the self-proclaimed ?Donetsk People?s Republic?, Roman Lyagin, announced.

klinton · 05-12-2014, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Emma

Almost 90 percent of voters in Donetsk Region have endorsed political independence from Kiev, the head of the Central Election Commission of the self-proclaimed ?Donetsk People?s Republic?, Roman Lyagin, announced.

heheh this doesnt look as voting in "privacy" and "Secrecy" granted to each voter...which is one of the rules for having good voting by law ;-)

Emma · 05-12-2014, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton

heheh this doesnt look as voting in "privacy" and "Secrecy" granted to each voter...which is one of the rules for having good voting by law ;-)

On that photo people stand in a line to receive ballots from members.

klinton · 05-12-2014, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Emma

On that photo people stand in a line to receive ballots from members.

yes, for sure they have right to feel that current government in Kiev is not their representation...and it is also not legally elected at all....probably like 70 % of people in East Ukraine voted for Yanukovich, so......

Emma · 05-12-2014, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton

yes, for sure they have right to feel that current government in Kiev is not their representation...and it is also not legally elected at all....probably like 70 % of people in East Ukraine voted for Yanukovich, so......

The residents of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions have confirmed their wish to live in an independent and free republic that is independent of the Kiev.

sperbonzo · 05-12-2014, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Emma

The residents of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions have confirmed their wish to live in an independent and free republic that is independent of the Kiev.

Really? That may be true, or it may not be.... I'm not sure that it is a settled matter at this point....

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27344412

"No international observers were present and there were many irregularities: not enough polling stations, no up-to-date voter lists and no proper checks on identity."

"The referendum took place in the cities and towns controlled by separatists in the Luhansk and Donetsk regions. As the separatists control only some towns and cities, it is not yet clear how much of the territory of the so-called Donetsk People's Republic the referendum actually covered.

The Donetsk republic's election chief, Roman Lyakhin, said the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) had blocked access to up-to-date voter registers, so voter rolls from the 2012 parliamentary election were being used.

About three million ballot papers were said to have been printed, with the combined population of the two regions standing at about 6.7 million. Ukrainian TV showed ballot papers being printed on a regular printer and bearing no protection marks."

BBC has footage of at least one woman putting in two pieces of paper...

___________

Again... I'm not saying that it's not true, I'm just saying there was a whole lot of room for problems with this referendom.

Meanwhile, apparaently Kiev wants to hold that same referendom at the same time as the general elections, so I guess we will see....

Emma · 05-12-2014, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Really? That may be true, or it may not be.... I'm not sure that it is a settled matter at this point....

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27344412

"No international observers were present and there were many irregularities: not enough polling stations, no up-to-date voter lists and no proper checks on identity."

"The referendum took place in the cities and towns controlled by separatists in the Luhansk and Donetsk regions. As the separatists control only some towns and cities, it is not yet clear how much of the territory of the so-called Donetsk People's Republic the referendum actually covered.

The Donetsk republic's election chief, Roman Lyakhin, said the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) had blocked access to up-to-date voter registers, so voter rolls from the 2012 parliamentary election were being used.

About three million ballot papers were said to have been printed, with the combined population of the two regions standing at about 6.7 million. Ukrainian TV showed ballot papers being printed on a regular printer and bearing no protection marks."

BBC has footage of at least one woman putting in two pieces of paper...

___________

Again... I'm not saying that it's not true, I'm just saying there was a whole lot of room for problems with this referendom.

Meanwhile, apparaently Kiev wants to hold that same referendom at the same time as the general elections, so I guess we will see....

You must accept facts. In the middle of time, Donetsk People's Republic asks Moscow to consider its accession into Russia.

crockett · 05-12-2014, 12:35 PM

TIL Russian propaganda has dropped to the same level as North Korea's...

just a punk · 05-12-2014, 02:07 PM

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TIL Russian propaganda has dropped to the same level as North Korea's...

I'd say as the US one. To be honest, I've never seen the NK propaganda (I don't understand their language either), but I watch CNN, Fox, BBC, so I have to admin that RT is very close to them

directfiesta · 05-12-2014, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Really? That may be true, or it may not be.... I'm not sure that it is a settled matter at this point....

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27344412

"No international observers were present and there were many irregularities: not enough polling stations, no up-to-date voter lists and no proper checks on identity."

"The referendum took place in the cities and towns controlled by separatists in the Luhansk and Donetsk regions. As the separatists control only some towns and cities, it is not yet clear how much of the territory of the so-called Donetsk People's Republic the referendum actually covered.

The Donetsk republic's election chief, Roman Lyakhin, said the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) had blocked access to up-to-date voter registers, so voter rolls from the 2012 parliamentary election were being used.

About three million ballot papers were said to have been printed, with the combined population of the two regions standing at about 6.7 million. Ukrainian TV showed ballot papers being printed on a regular printer and bearing no protection marks."

BBC has footage of at least one woman putting in two pieces of paper...

___________

Again... I'm not saying that it's not true, I'm just saying there was a whole lot of room for problems with this referendom.

Meanwhile, apparaently Kiev wants to hold that same referendom at the same time as the general elections, so I guess we will see....

so, the actual regime ( from a coup ) is more democratic that this referendum ?

klinton · 05-12-2014, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

so, the actual regime ( from a coup ) is more democratic that this referendum ?

of course it is, because it has support of most western media

..or they at least they turn blind eye on some facts

klinton · 05-12-2014, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

I'd say as the US one. To be honest, I've never seen the NK propaganda (I don't understand their language either), but I watch CNN, Fox, BBC, so I have to admin that RT is very close to them

RT is far more reliable on reporting many facts...more than, lets say Fox, BBC and CNN...

yet, they often have their own agenda and picture Russia as land of milk and honey, while all the West is in danger and totally rotten... + Russia as good old fortress, surrounded by enemies from each side....guess what , many people seem to be victim of such picturing...
actually I thought about you...Not, but you just live in Moscow and you think that everyone in Russia earns the same money like people in Moscow do and has the same standard of living...

so maybe it is nor RT's fault in your case

just a punk · 05-13-2014, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton

actually I thought about you...Not, but you just live in Moscow and you think that everyone in Russia earns the same money like people in Moscow do and has the same standard of living...

so maybe it is nor RT's fault in your case

Almost 17 millions of of Russian citizens live in Moscow and Saint Petersburg. Most of other live in other large cities with over a million population like Ekatirinburg, Novosibirsk, Kazan, Samara, Oms, Ufa, Nizhny Novgorod etc. The most of Russian territory is unpopulated, and almost all the people live in big cities. It's not like a "storey America" because of the shitty cold climate here. Course Moscow is not the average Russia, like NYC is not the average USA, however there is almost no people left in the villages.

As about my salary. I'm working in the internet since 1996 (in 1997 I've got my first contract as a senior developer in the US company) so it (the salary) does not depend on the place of my living. I can live anywhere but I really love Moscow. I was born in other city and came to Moscow when I was able to earn enough money to live here.

evy97 · 05-13-2014, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

I'd say as the US one. To be honest, I've never seen the NK propaganda (I don't understand their language either), but I watch CNN, Fox, BBC, so I have to admin that RT is very close to them

At least RT is hard news. Whenever I turn on BBC or CNN it's Pistorius or Malaysian plane.

klinton · 05-13-2014, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Almost 17 millions of of Russian citizens live in Moscow and Saint Petersburg. Most of other live in other large cities with over a million population like Ekatirinburg, Novosibirsk, Kazan, Samara, Oms, Ufa, Nizhny Novgorod etc. The most of Russian territory is unpopulated, and almost all the people live in big cities. It's not like a "storey America" because of the shitty cold climate here. Course Moscow is not the average Russia, like NYC is not the average USA, however there is almost no people left in the villages.

from wikipedia: "Relatively few Russian people live in villages?rural population accounted for 26% of the total population according to the 2010 Russian Census.", ok so you are right

anyway, compare living standard in Moscow, and lets say Omsk and Elista...I bet that they are different

if you, as most of people here, can work from any place in the world, I wonder what you still doing in that overpriced megalopis - Moscow...I can assure you that there 1000's of better places in this world, with better climate and better prices to live....:-P you should check it out

just a punk · 05-13-2014, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton

anyway, compare living standard in Moscow, and lets say Omsk and Elista...I bet that they are different

Not too much as you may think. Course in Moscow you can have a lot more fun than anywhere else (Omsk, Elista, NYC or Paris) but only in case if you have enough money for that. If you don't, your living standards will be quite the same (almost).

P.S. I haven't been to Elista actually, so that's just an assumption ;)

just a punk · 05-13-2014, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton

if you, as most of people here, can work from any place in the world, I wonder what you still doing in that overpriced megalopis - Moscow...I can assure you that there 1000's of better places in this world, with better climate and better prices to live....:-P you should check it out

There are many reasons for that. First of all, I love megalopolises and feel extremely bored in villages. It's nice to spend a couple of weeks somewhere in the middle of Dixies, on the sunny Spanish/Italian shore or at the Caribbeans. All those places are real exotic to me, but only for a shot amount of time. It's cool to spend a vacation time, but I really doubt I can live there for years... The second reason is my parents. Here in Russia we used to care about them till the end, so I can't just leave them here or get rid of them as the Americans do (I won't let them live and die in a nursing home).

FetishBar · 05-13-2014, 04:31 AM

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The Chairman of the Board of Directors of Burisma Holdings, Mr. Alan Apter, noted: ?The company?s strategy is aimed at the strongest concentration of professional staff and the introduction of best corporate practices, and we?re delighted that Mr. Biden is joining us to help us achieve these goals.?

R. Hunter Biden is a counsel to Boies, Schiller & Flexner LLP, a national law firm based in New York, USA, which served in cases including ?Bush vs. Gore?, and ?U.S. vs. Microsoft?. He is one of the co-founders and a managing partner of the investment advisory company Rosemont Seneca Partners, as well as chairman of the board of Rosemont Seneca Advisors. He is an Adjunct Professor at Georgetown University?s Masters Program in the School of Foreign Service.

Mr. Biden has experience in public service and foreign policy. He is a director for the U.S. Global Leadership Coalition, The Center for National Policy, and the Chairman?s Advisory Board for the National Democratic Institute. Having served as a Senior Vice President at MBNA bank, former U.S. President Bill Clinton appointed him an Executive Director of E-Commerce Policy Coordination under Secretary of Commerce William Daley. Mr. Biden served as Honorary Co-Chair of the 2008 Obama-Biden Inaugural Committee.

Mr. Biden is a member of the bar in the State of Connecticut, and the District of Columbia, the U.S. Supreme Court, and the Court of Federal Claims. He received a Bachelor?s degree from Georgetown University, and a J.D. from Yale Law School.

R. Hunter Biden is also a well-known public figure.He is chairman of the Board of the World Food Programme U.S.A., together with the world?s largest humanitarian organization, theUnited Nations World Food Programme. In this capacity he offers assistance to the poor in developing countries, fighting hunger and poverty, and helping to provide food and education to 300 million malnourished children around the world.

Company Background:
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Link: http://burisma.com/hunter-biden-join...isma-holdings/

Emma · 05-29-2014, 05:46 AM

Kiev's bloody eastern Ukraine campaign LIVE UPDATES

just a punk · 05-29-2014, 06:22 AM

Just a usual civilian war. It always comes after a revolution.

Kolargol · 05-29-2014, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Just a usual civilian war. It always comes after a revolution.

Not always. Look at Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, East Germany, baltic countries peaceful revolution in 1989-1990.

just a punk · 05-29-2014, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Kolargol

Not always. Look at Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, East Germany, baltic countries peaceful revolution in 1989-1990.

There was no revolution in those countries (at least in 1989-1990). Gorbachev just left them alone and let them live as they want. It could be a very different story if he didn't and those "brave" people took the control on their countries by means of an armed insurrection. In fact, you just were released by one master (the Soviets) and immediately taken under control by another one (the States). So no revolution, no civilian war and no independence there

_Richard_ · 05-29-2014, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Really? That may be true, or it may not be.... I'm not sure that it is a settled matter at this point....

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27344412

"No international observers were present and there were many irregularities: not enough polling stations, no up-to-date voter lists and no proper checks on identity."

"The referendum took place in the cities and towns controlled by separatists in the Luhansk and Donetsk regions. As the separatists control only some towns and cities, it is not yet clear how much of the territory of the so-called Donetsk People's Republic the referendum actually covered.

The Donetsk republic's election chief, Roman Lyakhin, said the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) had blocked access to up-to-date voter registers, so voter rolls from the 2012 parliamentary election were being used.

About three million ballot papers were said to have been printed, with the combined population of the two regions standing at about 6.7 million. Ukrainian TV showed ballot papers being printed on a regular printer and bearing no protection marks."

BBC has footage of at least one woman putting in two pieces of paper...

___________

Again... I'm not saying that it's not true, I'm just saying there was a whole lot of room for problems with this referendom.

Meanwhile, apparaently Kiev wants to hold that same referendom at the same time as the general elections, so I guess we will see....

yep

democracy! but only when we agree with it!

Sid70 · 05-29-2014, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Just a usual civilian war. It always comes after a revolution.

Idiot LOOOOL.

just a punk · 05-29-2014, 10:14 AM

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Idiot

We all know who you are. No need to post that here.

femdomdestiny · 05-29-2014, 10:24 AM

any kind of commenting or trying to find explanation or cover story is for really stupid people. Things are simple, NATO is going as close as possible to Russia, like it is doing in previous decades. Simple as that as always in history, stronger and better organized will prevail. Ukrainians are just "collateral damage", that beautiful expression standardized by NATO when bombing and killing around globe. As stated above, trying to find logical explanation won't work.
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Janukovich was problem and dictator but he never used army and bombed people. Yet, nazis are doing it for months and EU and US are supporting that without trying to stop it. Double standards, Yugoslavia was bombed and attacked when army was trying to stop separatists (that time armed by west) to do much worse things then "pro russians" are doing.

As I am concerned ,Russians are to blame now. Solving things up by guerilla warfare will only leave more innocent people dead.

They should rush in, take country and organize elections and arest nazis. US is doing it all the time around the globe, with much more damage and devastation

Sid70 · 05-29-2014, 10:35 AM

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We all know who you are. No need to post that here.

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Emma Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: England Posts: 2,288	Political crisis in Ukraine countinues, country's East in chaos. Anti-government protesters wearing gas masks storm a regional police building as one prepares a petrol bomb in the eastern Ukrainian city of Horlivka Members of the Ukrainian Interior Ministry walk past a MI-8 military helicopter and armored personnel carriers at a checkpoint near the town of Izium, eastern Ukraine Ukraine turmoil LIVE UPDATES Political crisis in Ukraine countinues, country's East in chaos. LIVE UPDATES __________________ $250 welcome bonus!

04-29-2014, 06:53 AM	#220
Emma Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: England Posts: 2,288	Kharkov, Odessa, Donetsk regions demand autonomy for southeastern Ukraine A total of 96.19% participants gave a negative answer to question number one, which asked them if they had trust in the interim acting president of Ukraine Alexander Turchinov and the officials he had appointed. Question number two - 'Do you support the slashing of social benefits and abolition of discounts at the IMF recommendation?' - got 95.77% negative answers. __________________ $250 welcome bonus!

05-03-2014, 02:44 AM	#221
Emma Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: England Posts: 2,288	Situation in Ukraine's east still tense, standoff continues. LIVE UPDATES __________________ $250 welcome bonus!

05-03-2014, 03:09 AM	#222
Fabien Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,787	When will it stop. I just don't understand why people keep on fighting and fighting everywhere in the world. Breaks my heart and i'm ashamed of human beings Peace, love and MONEY is the way to go lol

05-12-2014, 01:31 AM	#224
Emma Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: England Posts: 2,288	Almost 90 percent of voters in Donetsk Region have endorsed political independence from Kiev, the head of the Central Election Commission of the self-proclaimed ?Donetsk People?s Republic?, Roman Lyagin, announced. __________________ $250 welcome bonus!

05-12-2014, 12:35 PM	#231
crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	TIL Russian propaganda has dropped to the same level as North Korea's...

05-13-2014, 04:31 AM	#241
FetishBar Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Zambezia Posts: 48	Burisma Holdings, Ukraine?s largest private gas producer, has expand edits Board of Directors by bringing onMr. R Hunter Biden as a new director. R. Hunter Biden will be in charge of the Holdings? legal unit and will provide support for the Company among international organizations. On his new appointment, he commented: ?Burisma?s track record of innovations and industry leadership in the field of natural gas means that it can be a strong driver of a strong economy in Ukraine. As a new member of the Board, I believe that my assistance in consulting the Company on matters of transparency, corporate governance and responsibility, international expansion and other priorities will contribute to the economy and benefit the people of Ukraine.? The Chairman of the Board of Directors of Burisma Holdings, Mr. Alan Apter, noted: ?The company?s strategy is aimed at the strongest concentration of professional staff and the introduction of best corporate practices, and we?re delighted that Mr. Biden is joining us to help us achieve these goals.? R. Hunter Biden is a counsel to Boies, Schiller & Flexner LLP, a national law firm based in New York, USA, which served in cases including ?Bush vs. Gore?, and ?U.S. vs. Microsoft?. He is one of the co-founders and a managing partner of the investment advisory company Rosemont Seneca Partners, as well as chairman of the board of Rosemont Seneca Advisors. He is an Adjunct Professor at Georgetown University?s Masters Program in the School of Foreign Service. Mr. Biden has experience in public service and foreign policy. He is a director for the U.S. Global Leadership Coalition, The Center for National Policy, and the Chairman?s Advisory Board for the National Democratic Institute. Having served as a Senior Vice President at MBNA bank, former U.S. President Bill Clinton appointed him an Executive Director of E-Commerce Policy Coordination under Secretary of Commerce William Daley. Mr. Biden served as Honorary Co-Chair of the 2008 Obama-Biden Inaugural Committee. Mr. Biden is a member of the bar in the State of Connecticut, and the District of Columbia, the U.S. Supreme Court, and the Court of Federal Claims. He received a Bachelor?s degree from Georgetown University, and a J.D. from Yale Law School. R. Hunter Biden is also a well-known public figure.He is chairman of the Board of the World Food Programme U.S.A., together with the world?s largest humanitarian organization, theUnited Nations World Food Programme. In this capacity he offers assistance to the poor in developing countries, fighting hunger and poverty, and helping to provide food and education to 300 million malnourished children around the world. Company Background: Burisma Holdings is a privately owned oil and gas company with assets in Ukraine and operating in the energy market since 2002. To date, the company holds a portfolio with permits to develop fields in the Dnieper-Donets, the Carpathian and the Azov-Kuban basins. In 2013, the daily gas production grew steadily and at year-end amounted to 11.6 thousand BOE (barrels of oil equivalent ? incl. gas, condensate and crude oil), or 1.8 million m3 of natural gas. The company sells these volumes in the domestic market through traders, as well as directly to final consumers. Link: http://burisma.com/hunter-biden-join...isma-holdings/

05-29-2014, 05:46 AM	#242
Emma Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: England Posts: 2,288	Kiev's bloody eastern Ukraine campaign LIVE UPDATES __________________ $250 welcome bonus!

05-29-2014, 06:22 AM	#243
just a punk So fuckin' bored Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 32,381	Just a usual civilian war. It always comes after a revolution. __________________ Obey the Cowgod

05-29-2014, 10:24 AM	#249
femdomdestiny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,169	any kind of commenting or trying to find explanation or cover story is for really stupid people. Things are simple, NATO is going as close as possible to Russia, like it is doing in previous decades. Simple as that as always in history, stronger and better organized will prevail. Ukrainians are just "collateral damage", that beautiful expression standardized by NATO when bombing and killing around globe. As stated above, trying to find logical explanation won't work. \| Janukovich was problem and dictator but he never used army and bombed people. Yet, nazis are doing it for months and EU and US are supporting that without trying to stop it. Double standards, Yugoslavia was bombed and attacked when army was trying to stop separatists (that time armed by west) to do much worse things then "pro russians" are doing. As I am concerned ,Russians are to blame now. Solving things up by guerilla warfare will only leave more innocent people dead. They should rush in, take country and organize elections and arest nazis. US is doing it all the time around the globe, with much more damage and devastation __________________ Femdom Destiny -------------------------------------------- ICQ: 463-630-426 email: webmaster(at)femdomdestiny.com